Free Paragon Hard Disk Manager8 Download

[zapjb]

http://www.computeractive.co.uk/hdmanager8/index

And register here to get CD image (bootable)
http://kb.paragon-software.com/paragon/scripts/freelink/en/index.jsp?product_id=2745

till 04/11/2007

[acr1965]

That is quite an offer. I saw that the Hard Disk Manager 8 sells for $79.95 on Paragon's site. This is Hard Disk Manager 8 Special Edition. So I am assuming they are pretty similar.

Thanks for the head's up! I am heading over to download right now.

[dbknox]

I keep getting a pop-up window asking for user name and password, when I try ticking the bos "login anonomous" it doesn't work. I tried with Iexplore,Firefox and Opera browsers.
AmHave I become brain dead????

[DCM]

I cannot get past that popup either. It has a username and password already in there but does not work.

[acr1965]

I got a user name/password in the email from Paragon after I registered. I have not began the download yet so I am not sure that will help though.

[NICK ADSL UK]

You must register the product first you will then receive your product key along with the SERIAL NUMBER: which you then enter the box and download :)

[NICK ADSL UK]

Well this link was working yesterday but seams to be not working tonight :o It could be this offer has expired early :-\

[gerardwil]

{QUOTE-> Well this link was working yesterday but seams to be not working tonight :o It could be this offer has expired early :-\ <-QUOTE}

It looks like they removed the name/passw. because of the #530 error. (ftp)

I installed yesterday and works like a charm.

Gerard

[ThunderZ]

{QUOTE-> It looks like they removed the name/passw. because of the #510 error. (ftp)

I installed yesterday and works like a charm.

Gerard <-QUOTE}


Same error I am getting. Looks like I missed again. :'(

[lodore]

i cant get it to work eiether.
i got my serial code.
but when i click on the link in opera,firefox or IE7 i get the login box and cant login in.
when do you think the link will work again?
it says offer valid until 11 april 2007 its only the 8th
if you have registered and got the serial number you should be able to login on to the paragon website and download the lastest version there.
login with the your email address and password given in the email.
dang dont work cant download a version why from paragon why not?
i registred with paragon so should be able to download updates from them
lodore

[acr1965]

The login screen actually looked like you have to register with computeractive, which I did. But to no avail. Still same response from the login screen. But I have not yet gotten an email confirmation from computeractive about registering with their site.

[acr1965]

{QUOTE-> if you have registered and got the serial number you should be able to login on to the paragon website and download the lastest version there.
lodore <-QUOTE}

On the Paragon site there is Hard Disk Manager 8 but the free offer was for Hard Disk Manager 8 Special Edition. So they may be different registration req's. But if anyone is successful in downloading and registering HD Manager 8 instead please make a post.

[lodore]

if someone manages to download it please tell me so i can get it.
whats the use of a serial code if i dont have the installer.
cmon why would they cancel the offer before the 11 april?
@geraldwil,
what was the username and password for the site?
its only an install file and i have a serial code so they should allow me to download it.
if i get it i can install it and then use the tool to create a recovery cd then test it out.
lodore

[acr1965]

FWIW- there is an email address to send problems with downloads

contact@vnudownloads.com.


I sent an email asking about the problem. Maybe if they got a few more emails they would reply quickly? ;)

I'll post as soon as I find something out.

[lodore]

{QUOTE-> FWIW- there is an email address to send problems with downloads

contact@vnudownloads.com.


I sent an email asking about the problem. Maybe if they got a few more emails they would reply quickly? ;)

I'll post as soon as I find something out. <-QUOTE}

thanks Acr1965
i will look forward to the reply.
hopefully they will get the download link to work so i can download it and use it.
lodore

[acr1965]

I also sent an email to Paragon. Hopefully we hear some good info soon.

[gerardwil]

{QUOTE->
@geraldwil,
what was the username and password for the site?
lodore <-QUOTE}

I don't know and if yes I would never post it here.

Gerard

[EASTER.2010]

Something like this always seem to happen when these vendors make a "free" offer. I dunno if it's just deja vu or they reconsider the offer but make it actually available on a predetermined time schedule to keep the server from getting overloaded.

PARAGON is been my favorite of choice for years now and the best investment of any program like that bar none. I found them much more user-friendly and stable compared to Acronis & Ghost which almost turned me off completely in this area before discovering then trying PARAGON.

If this rings true, you guys are in a for a nice treat that will offer you years of good and dependable use. They made a believer out of me. Latest Version user here. Heck i still have my old version 6 of Hard Disk Manager Pro that still works like a charm!

[lodore]

@EASTER.2010,
happy easter!
secondly i would be in for a treat if the download link worked but it doesnt atm.
i was looking forward to trying it out upstairs to see if i could use it on the pc im building soon rather thaning buying software.
i was gonna buy eiether paragon or shadow protect desktop anyway.
if i cant get download it i will download the trial and test that out anyway.
lodore

[EASTER.2010]

Thanks lodore :) and the same in return. (Didn't occur to me that today is a Holiday)

I'm trying to help you guys out by going thru the same steps but the download link is toast right now. If i cut down the link to the index of the FTP site i get in but presented with a password box. Well i registered like you guys and entered that info into the password box thinking maybe it would open the door but no doing. I guess they have it configured for the one file directly by a single full URL. I done that same jockying at the Microsoft ftp site once and got in to download some console tools. I know these ftp sites can be a pain sometimes when trying to access by browser.

Anyone does finally find the way to the special offer installer we're all eyes here.

[lodore]

thanks for trying to help everyone.
its a shame it didnt work.
@Easter.2010 do you use the recovery cd to create images?
or do you use the installed version to create images?
also how many process does paragon use when making images?
and how many when not making images?
lodore

[Pedro]

Frustration here too. Seems like april fools. I'll try tomorrow.
"530 login not accepted". And asks user name and password.
Anyone has the exe and bittorrent? I got a serial...

[innerpeace]

Last night I was able to download the program and then I registered at the site and immediately received a key via email for it. Wawadave at CastleCops confirmed that he had it downloaded and running on his computer yesterday. I haven't installed it yet.

Will this program work well with burning images to cd-r's?

[lodore]

from paragon website
Burn a backup archive to CD/DVDs (or write them to ISO-image files for later burning)
lodore

[innerpeace]

Thanks Lodore.

To be more specific, I was able to dl the program at 3 a.m. EST today (18 hours ago). You all might keep trying at odd off peak hours. I did try again a few minute ago and get the 530 login not accepted message too. Good luck.

[lodore]

hopefully it will work sometime later.
cmon off peak hours its 2.15am in the uk;D

[tgell]

Mirror (ftp://HardDisk:manager8@ftp.vnudownloads.co.uk/hdm8_se-20070203-0000-en.exe)

ftp://HardDisk:manager8@ftp.vnudownloads.co.uk/hdm8_se-20070203-0000-en.exe

If you have a ftp client use

HardDisk as the user
manager8 as the password

[Pedro]

I just want to say: You da man! Thank you!

note: it seems this site brings a lot of this
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=25485&t=357544

zapjb, good eye!;D

[Tarnak]

{QUOTE-> Thanks lodore :) and the same in return. (Didn't occur to me that today is a Holiday)

I'm trying to help you guys out by going thru the same steps but the download link is toast right now. If i cut down the link to the index of the FTP site i get in but presented with a password box. Well i registered like you guys and entered that info into the password box thinking maybe it would open the door but no doing. I guess they have it configured for the one file directly by a single full URL. I done that same jockying at the Microsoft ftp site once and got in to download some console tools. I know these ftp sites can be a pain sometimes when trying to access by browser.

Anyone does finally find the way to the special offer installer we're all eyes here. <-QUOTE}

Try this:

http://www.computeractive.co.uk/hdmanager8/index

then click on Download Now towards the bottom of the page.

P.S. I saw that password box thingy but just ignored it. Also, I used Opera to download, no problem.

[EASTER.2010]

{QUOTE-> Mirror (ftp://HardDisk:manager8@ftp.vnudownloads.co.uk/hdm8_se-20070203-0000-en.exe)

ftp://HardDisk:manager8@ftp.vnudownloads.co.uk/hdm8_se-20070203-0000-en.exe

If you have a ftp client use

HardDisk as the user
manager8 as the password <-QUOTE}

Link actually works now on this end. I suspect they don't want the server to be mass rushed and made some provision for that, or else it was a mental block on the side of the ftp site itself. Whatever it was it's downloading now, but, what am i going to do with it since i'm already ahead in versions. I guess i'll just install it to another one of my machines.

[acr1965]

Well I used the mirror to download and the Product Key/Serial Number emailed me from Paragon and everything worked well. It looks like the mirror site has issues now, though.

[lodore]

ye the link dont work atm.
if i go to http://www.computeractive.co.uk/hdmanager8/index
and use the download there in opera the username is already filled in and the username is indeed harddisk
so i need to put in the username and password at off peaktimes.
if only i knew the username and password last night then i could be testing it right now.

lodore

[incursari]

I can register the Product Key/Serial at Paragon. But still I was unable to download the installation file from the FTP link. Is the offer over?

[zapjb]

{QUOTE-> I can register the Product Key/Serial at Paragon. But still I was unable to download the installation file from the FTP link. Is the offer over? <-QUOTE}
No. advrtd till 04/11/2007

[lodore]

if anyone wants the .exe file use the mirror server right now!
no password needed in opera.
so if you got opera and want the .exe file just click on the mirror link posted above
lodore

[dbknox]

189009


Thanks just for the heck of it I copied the link and tried it in Firefox and it worked fine no login at all.

You guys are amazing, it seems the posters on here can do anything.

[dbknox]

I see I'll have to get somebody to teach me how to do what tgell so if I try to leave a link to copy I'll be able to.

[dbknox]

ftp://HardDisk:manager8@ftp.vnudownloads.co.uk/hdm8_se-20070203-0000-en.exe

Never mind!!!

[lodore]

works great for me.
the program doesnt even have any running processes running when not in use.
that makes a change.
im gonna make a rescue cd and create an image tomorrow to test it out.
what is the difference between the special edition and the personal edition?
any less features in the special editon?
lodore

[incursari]

I still got no luck for the download link. I think they limit their bandwidth. :(

[lodore]

i got lucky.
keep trying at random times with eiether link
lodore

[Bob D]

{QUOTE-> I still got no luck for the download link. I think they limit their bandwidth. :( <-QUOTE}
I experienced same problem (dialup here), kept getting error messages halfway through..
DL'd successfully from yet another link: http://www.mediafire.com/?1m2m1gmfzgk
Cannot vouch for site's authenticity (filename is identical).
Will post back after I check it out/install.

[EASTER.2010]

All i can offer at this point for you guys is to keep at it and don't give up. If i can finally get thru anyone can eventually.

As to the comparisons between Personal & Special, special suggests to me it might have some additional benefits but i not installed it just yet, but am going to and give it a good going over to see if it's up to par with their other releases or not.

[Bob D]

Aforementioned link seems to be OK.
DL'd (finally), painless installation with registered key / ser#.
Can confirm lodore's observation:
{QUOTE-> the program doesnt even have any running processes running when not in use <-QUOTE}
Would like to bump his query:
{QUOTE-> what is the difference between the special edition and the personal edition?
any less features in the special editon?
<-QUOTE}
Now the BIG question. What do I do with it?
I use IFD for imaging....don't partition that much...another piece of software to learn how to use effectively...
The allure of good free stuff, can't resist.
At least no use of system resources, just some HD space.

[DCM]

I downloaded and saved the program yesterday and now, cannot find it. Would someone give me the first few letters of the file name so I can find it. I don't need the whole name but that would be OK.

I am going to do a ??.* search and hope to find it. It is somewhere on my hard drive.

Thanks

[ThunderZ]

{QUOTE-> I downloaded and saved the program yesterday and now, cannot find it. Would someone give me the first few letters of the file name so I can find it. I don't need the whole name but that would be OK.

I am going to do a ??.* search and hope to find it. It is somewhere on my hard drive.

Thanks <-QUOTE}


try hdm8.

[incursari]

{QUOTE-> I experienced same problem (dialup here), kept getting error messages halfway through..
DL'd successfully from yet another link: http://www.mediafire.com/?1m2m1gmfzgk
Cannot vouch for site's authenticity (filename is identical).
Will post back after I check it out/install. <-QUOTE}
Wohoo!! Thank you Bob for the link it works.

[acr1965]

I never have gotten an email back from vnunet.com or Paragon concerning the download issues. But I was fortunate enough to download a copy, so that was great. What are some tips for using this product? Any particular settings recommended? Info would be appreciated.

Thanks.

[incursari]

The MD5 for "hdm8_se-20070203-0000-en.exe" is "19BA171B2241973ABBF12E98A8C27A6C" which i download from the mediafire link. Can anyone confirm if it is the same from the original download location.

[Tarnak]

Confirmed. :thumb:

{QUOTE-> The MD5 for "hdm8_se-20070203-0000-en.exe" is "19BA171B2241973ABBF12E98A8C27A6C" which i download from the mediafire link. Can anyone confirm if it is the same from the original download location. <-QUOTE}

[incursari]

{QUOTE-> Confirmed. :thumb: <-QUOTE}
Alrite thank you. :thumb:

[Ocky]

Thanks to the link posters - have just downloaded from mirror.
One question, will the recovery media builder enable me to make
a simple bootable CD so that I can backup and restore offline with it ?
Does one need to somewhere on Paragon's site obtain an iso image to
make a recovery CD ? With Acronis it's easy, the recovery CD can be
made by just clicking on rescue media builder.

[gerardwil]

{QUOTE-> One question, will the recovery media builder enable me to make
a simple bootable CD so that I can backup and restore offline with it ? <-QUOTE} yes
{QUOTE-> Does one need to somewhere on Paragon's site obtain an iso image to
make a recovery CD ? <-QUOTE} no

Gerard

[Ocky]

:thumb: :thumb: Many thanks. I am happy with Acronis but will try this on wife's laptop.

[incursari]

I already installed it. Do backup and restore, it works reliably with my system..... nice :thumb:

[zapjb]

{QUOTE-> I already installed it. Do backup and restore, it works reliably with my system..... nice :thumb: <-QUOTE}
It's so easy & intuitive.

The way imaging programs are supposed to be. ;D

[tgell]

Manual (http://download.paragon-software.com/doc/manual_hdm8_eng.pdf)

[Pedro]

{QUOTE->
Now the BIG question. What do I do with it?
I use IFD for imaging....don't partition that much...another piece of software to learn how to use effectively...
The allure of good free stuff, can't resist.
At least no use of system resources, just some HD space. <-QUOTE}
;D yes, now what? Santa gives us this, now off to learn what it does.
Seems a very complete program, all sort of tasks are available.
It supports ext3 i think. Besides NTFS and FAT32, what else?

Also, did anyone compare it with Acronis TI, IFW/IFD or SP? Not now obviously, it takes time, but Paragon's imaging altogether. I think i read somewhere that only certain editions support Windows's VSS. How's SE?

[DCM]

I downloaded and got it running last night with the help of recent posters. Now that it is running, I have a question.

In looking at Paragon Hard Drive Manager 8 and Paragon Drive Backup 8, they seem very similar. Both will image the drive and both have the same version number.

No problems with this but just curious. I cannot figure out why they would have two apparently identical products with different names. Am I reading something wrong in their opening pages?

[Bob D]

{QUOTE->
In looking at Paragon Hard Drive Manager 8 and Paragon Drive Backup 8, they seem very similar. Both will image the drive and both have the same version number.
<-QUOTE}
Paragon Hard Disk Mgr is their "suite".
It includes functionality of both of their Drive Backup & Partition Mgr. proggies.
Per their site Paragon Hard Disk Mgr: {QUOTE-> The universal toolkit you'll ever need for backup, imaging, cloning and partitioning <-QUOTE}

[lodore]

i have a few problems.
one of them is the pc itself and not the program.
1. if i tell it to make a recovery cd and burn it to cd via my cd burner it wont let me press next it could be that it cant find any media in the drive.
i did try different blank cd's thou.
so i used the emulated drive and then browsed to program files/paragon and found an iso folder and it it was an emulation ISO so i used nero to burn it to cd and it works great.
2. i get a hot processing error if i tell it to make an image of both the master boot record and the C: partistion. it does the image fine but it cant do the third step which is combine the two archives in to one archive.
but i found out that the harddrive had bad sectors so i ran a chkdisk on all partisions and now windows wont write to the bad sectors. which is a good thing.
the image restored perfectly thou.more about this in number 3
3. ok so now the bad sectors are corrected i thought i would create a image hopefully with no errors this time.
ok this is the weird part, suddenly in the middle of it creating the image the pc froze and rebooted but showed a prompt saying put a valid boot cd in the A: drive.
so i checked the bios and no HD was found.
so i took the case side off and pushed the cable in.
then windows loaded right away. but it done the same thing when i tryed to create another image but further on.
so i changed the cable for the HD but it still does it.
this happerned when i first installed windows 2000 pro on it a few weeks ago.
so for some reason the bios cant find the HD so if installing an OS it gets stuck. or if using windows it freezes and reboots.
anyidea what to do to stop this problem?
i think the images will create successfully as long as the HD doesnt disapear;D
on the whole a very nice program that only has processes running while it does a backup and once finished it stops them.
so it can be totally on demand imaging program. a major plus if you ask me.
lodore

[gerardwil]

{QUOTE-> i have a few problems.
one of them is the pc itself and not the program.
1. if i tell it to make a recovery cd and burn it to cd via my cd burner it wont let me press next it could be that it cant find any media in the drive.
i did try different blank cd's thou.
so i used the emulated drive and then browsed to program files/paragon and found an iso folder and it it was an emulation ISO so i used nero to burn it to cd and it works great.

lodore <-QUOTE}

You have to click on browse first and point to bootcd.iso.
Then you can click on "next".

Gerard

[lodore]

{QUOTE-> You have to click on browse first and point to bootcd.iso.
Then you can click on "next".

Gerard <-QUOTE}

i choose the default top option.
typical.
why would you have to choose the ISO?
shouldnt typical option do it for you?
i clicked on typical option pressed next.
then i choose my psysical cd burner stuck in the disc then clicked next.
on that step it tells me to put in a cd and then pres next but the nezt button didnt work.
lodore

[gerardwil]

Lodore,

You can choose whatever you want of course.
I thought you wanted a Bootcd ISO.
I must have misunderstood your question.

Gerard

[lodore]

yes i do want a bootable iso image but i thought the typical option would burn a paragon bootable rescue cd.
the problem is that if i select my cd burner as the place to create the disc i can click next because it cant find any media in the drive.
so i got around it partly by creating it to the emulation burner and used nero to burn that ISO to cd.
but its just odd that paragon cant find any media in the drive.
lodore

[Sputnik]

Works wonderful! Thanks a lot for the information. Personally I prefer Paragon over Acronis now-a-days.

ps. Did anyone try this SE version under Vista?

[lodore]

i prefer it over acronis as well.
it only uses one process called lancher.exe when creating images.
i might use this SE paragon on my main pc to replace acronis.
this way the images will be more reliable and the recovery cd works as well.
if you buy any paragon imaging product you can a winpe recovery cd for eiether $11 or $20 dollers.
depends on what version ya want.
lodore

[lodore]

ok i think this deserves a new reply.
it seems there is alot of talk about the cool shadow protect desktop IT editon that can backup a pc without any install.
well in this video they show you backing up to a external HD
but the most interesting thing is that you can run it from the cd with no install just like shadow protect desktop It edition but paragon Drive Backup 8.5
Personal Edition is only $50 and $11 for the winpe recovery Cd
it shows the 8.0 version but 8.5 is now out so the video is outdated but still good.
http://images.paragon-software.com/db/flash/9.swf
lodore

[incursari]

Since I use Paragon drive backup, I do restoration from the recovery CD and do restoration from Windows, it never failed on my system at all, never had any corrupt images. And for this Paragon Hard Disk Manager also never failed on this too. I play around with the partition, resize from outside and inside Windows, everything works beautifully. I find that this suite really worth to buy for the Pro version.

[lodore]

ive just emailed paragon sales about getting paragon drive backup 8.5 for 50percent off for migrating from acronis true image 9.
paragon drive backup 8.5 is normaly $50 and the winpe recovery cd is $11 so in total $61
so with discount i can get it including the recovery cd for around £15.
hope they ship to the UK.....
lodore

[acr1965]

Anyone try to run the defragger? I did but could not get it to work properly. Is it something that must be ran in safe mode?

[Rilla927]

{QUOTE-> http://www.computeractive.co.uk/hdmanager8/index

And register here to get CD image (bootable)
http://kb.paragon-software.com/paragon/scripts/freelink/en/index.jsp?product_id=2745

till 04/11/2007 <-QUOTE}
I d/l this program and it's great! Thank you.

[Pedro]

I think this is the personal edition. Inside the program, in help there are hints that seem to point to that (link to the knowledge base etc.).

{QUOTE-> The Personal edition does not support scripting, i.e. it cannot perform batch tasks in the unattended mode.

The Personal edition does not support dynamic disks:

- It cannot perform any operations on dynamic disks, but entire deletion;

- It cannot convert dynamic disks back to basic;

- However, it can recognize the layout of dynamic disks.

The Personal edition does not provide support of the Microsoft VSS (Volume Shadow Copy Service) technology.

The Personal edition does not enable to make a synchronous snapshot of multiple volumes.

There are no Synthetic Backup Wizard and Wipe Wizard in the Personal edition.

Generate Script, Convert to Basic, Wipe Partition/Hard Disk, Clear Free Space, Change SID program’s dialogs are unavailable in the Personal edition.

There is no possibility to send notifications by e-mail on the carried out operations in the Personal edition.

Additional to the features supported by the Personal version of the Recovery CD, the Professional and Server versions provide the following advanced functionality:

- Ability to map network shares to place or retrieve backup images over LAN;

- Backup/Restore of dynamic volumes;

- UFSD LDM module to mount complex dynamic volumes (spanned, striped, mirrored and RAID-5). <-QUOTE}

It does not support VSS, but for online backups, it uses the "Paragon Hot Processing Technology". In Basic concepts-Paragon Hot Processing & Volume Shadow Copy Service:

{QUOTE-> Paragon Hot Processing is an online backup technology for Windows NT+ family operating systems. Developed back in 2001, nowadays it is integrated with all backup solutions offered by the company.

Paragon Hot Processing is not exactly a snapshot technology, though it has much in common with it. During an online backup, the program uses the kernel mode driver HOTCORE.SYS to intercept and control disk write activity of applications and the operating system. The hotcore driver as an integral part of the program is installed during the setup procedure (that’s why the system reboot is required to complete the setup procedure). For the most part the driver is in the idle mode until it is activated with the program. While in this mode it bypasses any calls having no effect on the overall system performance, but a few kilobytes of the system memory.

Paragon Hot Processing technology offers backup of locked partitions and hard disks under Windows NT+ family operating systems providing both high operating efficiency as well as low hardware requirements.

It is not recommended to use Paragon Hot Processing with active SQL Server 2003, Exchange 2003 or Oracle databases since the backup image Backup Image is an archive of the disk, which includes all the on-disk files and service information on the disk layout. To restore disks from such an archive means retrieving all informational components of the disk (e.g. a hard disk image consists of its partitions, the Partition Table and even bootstrap code). contents may be corrupted.

Unlike Microsoft VSS, the Paragon Hot Processing technology cannot be used for online backup of locked dynamic volumes. <-QUOTE}

It should be more than enough for me though! If i need more, Paragon will be on my 1st options, if i have no issues with it.

[gerardwil]

{QUOTE-> Anyone try to run the defragger? I did but could not get it to work properly. Is it something that must be ran in safe mode? <-QUOTE}

I ran the defragger and it did is job fine. However it won't defrag a disk which is in use, in that case you will be asked to restart your machine and then it will do this job.
You also can run Defrag from the Boot CD.

Gerard

[EASTER.2010]

I quietly been a PARAGON advocate for years after TI & Norton's screwed up my pc and found it totally user-friendly and most effective of all. This comes as no surprise that others will soon discover PARAGON is an elite group of specialists who sharpen and honed their programs "FIRST!" before letting them out of the bag into the label box.

And who can forget the continuing echoes like a broken record of thank you for choosing Acronis products and all that nonsense instead of getting down deep in the trenches where it really counts when it comes to imaging issues and the like. Gee Whiz!

[blarson]

I tried the free HDM8, but bought the Drive Backup 8.51 Personal with a 50% upgrade discount for ATI10, and the $11 WinPE recovery disk. One thing it has is VSS support that is not included in the suite.

I submitted a support query for two problems:
1. Does not appear to support quotas to limit backup images.
2. Image is split into 2GB files ignoring the option setting.

I finally removed DriveImage 7 and am waiting for ShadowProtect 3.0.

'If you have two, you have one; If you have one, you have none!'
'Belts and Braces' is more succinct.

[Pedro]

The help file is most instructive, i recommend reading it. Everything.
I read this "Data Sanitization", which supposedly wipes everything from a HD, even from "advanced forensic tools".
They describe it as better than erasing. I read that as implicit, it's not explicit in the text.
Reading it, makes me want to buy the whole package lol.

[aigle]

I tried it today. FF, IE, FlashGet, LeechGet all failed. I was able to download only with opera. My impresions are good so far. It has a nice GUI and is fast though compression is a bit less as compared to ATI( version7) on default setings.

Imaged my C partition 7.81 GB with 4.93 GB data. Image size was 2.53 GB with ATI while it is 3.4 GB with Paragon( approximately).

I also re-partitioned my C partition. System did reboot OK, though with a few glitches( power reset twice). However no major issues in my very short term trial.

I have few questions BTW.

1- Why it needs to run chkdisk after partitioning( it was not so whe I used BING to partition).

2- It seems to have no reboot and restore function like ATI( for restore to C partition). Am I correct?

3- While using recovery CD I found no option to restore standard MBR or imaged MBR. Am I missing something? also recovery CD is not user friendly like ATI.

4- I can use one licence for one PC only? Anybody read the EULA( I have not it currently installed).

Thansk for any answers!

[lodore]

{QUOTE-> I tried it today. FF, IE, FlashGet, LeechGet all failed. I was able to download only with opera. My impresions are good so far. It has a nice GUI and is fast though compression is a bit less as compared to ATI( version7) on default setings.

Imaged my C drive 7.81 GB with 4.93 GB data. Image size was 2.53 GB with ATI while it is 3.4 GB with Paragon( approximately).

I also re-partitioned my C partition. System did reboot OK, though with a few glitches( power reset twice). However no major issues in my very short term trial.

I have few questions BTW.

1- Why it needs to run chkdisk after partitioning( it was not so whe I used BING to partition).

2- It seems to have no reboot and restore function like ATI( for restore to C partition). Am I correct?

3- While using recovery CD I found no option to restore standard MBR or imaged MBR. Am I missing something? also recovery CD is not user friendly like ATI.

4- I can use one licence for one PC only? Anybody read the EULA( I have not it currently installed).

Thansk for any answers! <-QUOTE}

Hi Aigle,
i can answer question 2.
i imaged the c: partistion and restored it.
i told it to restore the image to c: applyed changes it tryed but start but couldnt so it told me to reboot.
it restored the image and booted in to windows fine.
its nice to restore a successfull image.
i might buy the 8.5 drive backup for my main pc to replace ATI.
4. the offer site says its for one pc only.
im waiting for a reply about a few question i asked paragon sales.
lodore

[optigrab]

{QUOTE-> I think this is the personal edition. Inside the program, in help there are hints that seem to point to that (link to the knowledge base etc.).

It does not support VSS, but for online backups, it uses the "Paragon Hot Processing Technology". In Basic concepts-Paragon Hot Processing & Volume Shadow Copy Service:

It should be more than enough for me though! If i need more, Paragon will be on my 1st options, if i have no issues with it. <-QUOTE}Pedro et al:
I am thrilled to have scored this program. I wonder - even before I have personally tested it - if this is the complete list of differences between the "SE" version and the paid Personal Edition. Are there are any important features missing that I would wish to spend my money on?

[Bob D]

{QUOTE-> .....differences between the "SE" version and the paid Personal Edition..... <-QUOTE}
Could find no reference to "SE" (special edition) on their website.
Only a comparison of Personal vs. Professional:
http://www.partition-manager.com/comparison.htm

[lodore]

how quick are paragon sales at replying to emails?
i sent one yesterday and havent even got one of those "we have recieved your email and we will reply as soon as we can"
hopefully they will reply soon.
i wish i could test the winpe recovery cd without buying it thou.
lodore

[Bob D]

Have you tried their forum?
It seems fairly active.

[lodore]

i didnt know they had a forum i will visit it now
that site is anti lodore lol.
it has one of those morphed pictures to put in the letters you see.
then a second picture e.g. is the picture fire?
or if you get it wrong it gives you random sums or what fruit does this picture show.
i couldnt get the letters right so now i cant even try again.....

lodore

[Bob D]

@ Lodore:
Didn't understand your point until I went to the registration page.
The bitmap alpha-numeric picture fill-in thingie I've seen before, but arithmetic solutions required? That's a new one!
I do like the hint they offered for the arithmetic problem: {QUOTE-> Only use numbers in your answer <-QUOTE}

[lodore]

LOL
i got a screenshot and sent it to someone on MSN and they helped me out with the letter one
lodore

[lodore]

this is the one i had to do.
to start with you have to work out the charactors of the sum then do the sum..
i worked it out in the end thou.
it looks fun doesnt it?;D
lodore

[Rilla927]

{QUOTE-> this is the one i had to do.
to start with you have to work out the charactors of the sum then do the sum..
i worked it out in the end thou.
it looks fun doesnt it?;D
lodore <-QUOTE}

This is crazy! I have never seen anything like this.

[acr1965]

{QUOTE-> how quick are paragon sales at replying to emails?
i sent one yesterday and havent even got one of those "we have recieved your email and we will reply as soon as we can"
hopefully they will reply soon.
i wish i could test the winpe recovery cd without buying it thou.
lodore <-QUOTE}

I got an email back from Paragon in about 2 work days.

[lodore]

{QUOTE-> I got an email back from Paragon in about 2 work days. <-QUOTE}
ok its only been one day so far.
i can wait another day
thanks
lodore

[EASTER.2010]

I finally made time & got it installed and went straight-way (since i'm familiar with Paragon) to resizing partitions, changing drive letters, deleting & creating partitions and the like and notice it's just like all Paragon productions i been using for years. Real user-friendly and fast as i need it to be without coughing up issues & glitches like some others i won't mention but are taken for popular these days.

Hmm, now i got a HDM6 & 8, and they both work fine. I like the GUI improvements and a little more detail in the latest versions of course. As always they work perfectly for my drives and ended the frustrations i suffered with the others long ago.

[aigle]

{QUOTE-> This is crazy! I have never seen anything like this. <-QUOTE}
I will say it rather stupid!

[aigle]

{QUOTE-> Hi Aigle,
i can answer question 2.
i imaged the c: partistion and restored it.
i told it to restore the image to c: applyed changes it tryed but start but couldnt so it told me to reboot.
it restored the image and booted in to windows fine.
its nice to restore a successfull image.
i might buy the 8.5 drive backup for my main pc to replace ATI.
4. the offer site says its for one pc only.
im waiting for a reply about a few question i asked paragon sales.
lodore <-QUOTE}
Thanks ladore.

Anybody knows about this.{QUOTE-> 3- While using recovery CD I found no option to restore standard MBR or imaged MBR. Am I missing something? also recovery CD is not user friendly like ATI. <-QUOTE}


Thanks

[mrhero]

{QUOTE-> ok its only been one day so far.
i can wait another day
thanks
lodore <-QUOTE}

It has been 3 days and I'm still waiting:dry:

[lodore]

{QUOTE-> Thanks ladore.

Anybody knows about this.


Thanks <-QUOTE}

in the bacup screen you can tell it to backup the MBR as well as the partistions you want.
so go to the folder you put the images e.g. arc_ if you used standard options you should find two images files in the folder.
one e.g. GB in size and one KB in size.
the KB size one is the backed up MBR
if not go to the backup screen and just tick the MBR box to back it up.
lodore

[incursari]

{QUOTE-> I tried it today. FF, IE, FlashGet, LeechGet all failed. I was able to download only with opera. My impresions are good so far. It has a nice GUI and is fast though compression is a bit less as compared to ATI( version7) on default setings.
Imaged my C partition 7.81 GB with 4.93 GB data. Image size was 2.53 GB with ATI while it is 3.4 GB with Paragon( approximately).
<-QUOTE}

You can change the setting to "Normal Compression" or "Best Compression".

[wilbertnl]

{QUOTE-> 3- While using recovery CD I found no option to restore standard MBR or imaged MBR. Am I missing something? also recovery CD is not user friendly like ATI.
<-QUOTE}
Aigle,

You need to select the whole disk, as opposed to a single partition:

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Also:

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[Rilla927]

{QUOTE-> I will say it rather stupid! <-QUOTE}

I agree! It's like your back in school taking a quiz.

[dbknox]

I downloaded it because it is was free,( have the serial number) but wonder if I should install it. I use True Image 9.0 and it works well for me. I have restored images many times with fast and accurate results using TI. Does anybody know if Paragon and True Image would conflict with each other.
I would be interested in installing Paragon if I can do Partitioning with it and no conflicts with TI.

[wilbertnl]

{QUOTE-> I would be interested in installing Paragon if I can do Partitioning with it and no conflicts with TI. <-QUOTE}
With Paragon Hard Disk Manager 8 you get the functionality of Acronis TrueImage AND Acronis Disk Director together. If you want to evaluate, you could start with the rescue CD, which is fully functional.
Paragon doesn't modify the MBR and unlike TrueImage it doesn't install a service. I think that a conflict is unlikely.
Upgrade fees of Paragon are very reasonable and they have frequent promotions.

[aigle]

{QUOTE-> ok i think this deserves a new reply.
it seems there is alot of talk about the cool shadow protect desktop IT editon that can backup a pc without any install.
well in this video they show you backing up to a external HD
but the most interesting thing is that you can run it from the cd with no install just like shadow protect desktop It edition but paragon Drive Backup 8.5
Personal Edition is only $50 and $11 for the winpe recovery Cd
it shows the 8.0 version but 8.5 is now out so the video is outdated but still good.
http://images.paragon-software.com/db/flash/9.swf
lodore <-QUOTE}
So u think it,s a good alternative to SP with this cool feature and at a very cheep price. Did u tried this feature?
Now i wonder how can we compare both, Paragon versus SP!!

[aigle]

{QUOTE-> Aigle,You need to select the whole disk, as opposed to a single partition:
<-QUOTE}
Thanks wilbertnl.

U have MBR and first track options while imaging a partition but no such option in recovery CD while restoring that partition. Correct?

I took an image of my C partitionincluding MBR and first track with default settings and here is what I see.( Pic 1)

I see it running in VB. Unfortunately I was not able to run it in VB( latest version), tried both aith mounted ISO and CD rom. It will just stuck here.( Pic 2)

[blarson]

I screwed the pouch on buying Drive Backup 8.5 Personal Edition. You have to purchase the Professional Edition, at twice the price, to get the Cyclic Backup to limit the size or numbers of backup images. Acronis calls this Quotas and is included in ATI10.

Also, I am not sure what the $11 Recovery Disk is - WinPE or Linux. Support told me Linux can't handle files over 2GB which is why the images have to be split. WTF.

[aigle]

{QUOTE->
Also, I am not sure what the $11 Recovery Disk is - WinPE or Linux. Support told me Linux can't handle files over 2GB which is why the images have to be split. WTF. <-QUOTE}So recovery CD might be Linux rather than WinPE?

[wilbertnl]

{QUOTE-> U have MBR and first track options while imaging a partition but no such option in recovery CD while restoring that partition. Correct? <-QUOTE}
All the screenshots I took are from the recovery CD.
When you create an image of the whole disk, you are able to select which areas you want to backup: any combination of MBR, first track and partitions.
When you restore and select the complete archive (the archive is also a combination of the previously selected areas), you are able to select which areas to restore.

I suggest that you create an image of the whole disk, including MBR, first track and first partition. And check your options when you restore from the same archive.

The recovery CD is based on Linux (full mode), and the safe mode is based on DOS.

[Pedro]

wilbertnl: with so many things to read, i sometimes get confused/ forget some basic things.
Are the MBR and first track the only things you need to image besides the HD's contents? Isn't the MBR included in the first track? Maybe it's better to have them both anyway for some reason.
TIA

[wilbertnl]

Pedro,

I usually take an image of the system partition only.

Aigle was asking about the MBR, and I showed all the options that are available from the Recovery CD.
MBR and first track don't take much space in the archive, so if you like you could always include them. You are able to ignore them when you restore (for example to a different size harddisk).

[aigle]

{QUOTE-> When you create an image of the whole disk, you are able to select which areas you want to backup: any combination of MBR, first track and partitions. <-QUOTE} That,s Ok. I tried from Windows, not from recovery CD. I get the same option while backing up a partition or full disk, MBR, First Track, Partition(s).
I take image of my system partition only( C).{QUOTE->
When you restore and select the complete archive (the archive is also a combination of the previously selected areas), you are able to select which areas to restore. <-QUOTE}

I will try to re-check it later.{QUOTE->
The recovery CD is based on Linux (full mode), and the safe mode is based on DOS. <-QUOTE} I don,t find two options in Recovery Media Builder, only one ISO that can be burned from inside the software or by any burner manually.
Are u talking of the recovery CD that you get specially from Paragon people?

Thanks

[wilbertnl]

{QUOTE-> Are u talking of the recovery CD that you get specially from Paragon people? <-QUOTE}
The answer from Paragon (http://forum.paragon-software.com/customer/viewtopic.php?t=1737).
The full recovery CD is a free download when you upgrade to the Personal Edition.

[dbknox]

wilbertnl Thanks for the answer to my query from post #100 very much appreciated.
dbknox

[aigle]

Thanks. So the snapshot u posted was from Linux recovery CD or DOS?{QUOTE-> The answer from Paragon (http://forum.paragon-software.com/customer/viewtopic.php?t=1737).
The full recovery CD is a free download when you upgrade to the Personal Edition. <-QUOTE}

[wilbertnl]

{QUOTE-> Thanks. So the snapshot u posted was from Linux recovery CD or DOS? <-QUOTE}
Linux

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[aigle]

thanks!

[Woody777]

How Exactly Do I get the Recovery CD Image? There seems to be no link on the Paragon site I can Download it from. Secondly' When I try to create the rescue disk image for the supplied iso in the Paragon program I also get the exact scenario that is posted previously namely a _ & nothing else. I believe that if you cannot use the recovery cd that this program is probably of limited usefulness for rescue. It seems to back up well & is well behaved but how could you rescue a badly behaveing system?

[lodore]

{QUOTE-> So recovery CD might be Linux rather than WinPE? <-QUOTE}

i can answer that question
on the online store of paragon you have the option at the cost of $11 to get a winpe cd with most if not all paragon product
lodore

[lodore]

{QUOTE-> How Exactly Do I get the Recovery CD Image? There seems to be no link on the Paragon site I can Download it from. Secondly' When I try to create the rescue disk image for the supplied iso in the Paragon program I also get the exact scenario that is posted previously namely a _ & nothing else. I believe that if you cannot use the recovery cd that this program is probably of limited usefulness for rescue. It seems to back up well & is well behaved but how could you rescue a badly behaveing system? <-QUOTE}

ok this is how i made the recovery cd for paragon 8.0 hard drive manager,
i went to the recovery media wizard and choose the virtual cd drive
it then created it to the virtual drive.
then browse to the program files find the paragon folder and in a sub folder you will find a folder called ISO.
burn the iso called something like virtual to a cd using your fav cd burning program.
then boot the pc from the cd.
you can restore the images from that.
i have successfully restored an image with the that method of creating the recovery cd and then booting from that cd.
lodore

[gerardwil]

Lodore,

I still have no clue what you are doing there. You are making an emulator.iso which is exactly the same as the bootcd.iso and then burn the emulator on a CD, or do you burn bootcd.iso on a disk?
Why not burn directly the bootcd.iso which is already there?
Am I missing something?

[lodore]

well why the hell is the emulation drive there for then?
if its the same
lodore

[Pedro]

Ok, what is the difference between backup HD and Copy HD?
Copy is clone, Backup is image?
If i backup, can't i duplicate that HD by restoring it on another HD?

edited beer factor.

[lodore]

if you want to backup the HD then use backup.
if you want to copy the HD to another HD use copy.
lodore

[Beer Dog]

This free offer is still alive!

I downloaded PHDM8 and registered it on the website this morning. Looks like they've extended the offer way past the April 11 closing date.

I use IFW/IFD for imaging, so I plan to use Paragon 8 just for disk partitioning. Does it play nice with RAID?