View Full Version : I dont think Webwasher is that good.
MalwareDie
April 4th, 2007, 01:59 PM
I think PC-Welts overrates webwasher. It uses mcafee, Computer Associates, and Sophos. all engines in Webwasher are weaker than the ones in Trustport. I think it would not get an advanced+ if tested by av-comparatives.
C.S.J
April 4th, 2007, 02:01 PM
3+ engine av's , i always expect a 99.9% detetion, because lets face facts,thats why that av has those engines, for detection.
i think the av-test.org tests are better than those of av-comparatives, ive always looked with interest at thier results, sooo many av's tested too, even though av-comparatives added quite a few more in the last :D
ren
April 4th, 2007, 02:07 PM
hello,
are you sure ? i think it use avira engine + buildin securecomputing engine. source http://www.securecomputing.com/pdf/EweekarticleonAntimalware.pdf
ren-
dah145
April 4th, 2007, 02:07 PM
webwasher uses Avira Antivir engine plus its own, if I am not wrong...
C.S.J
April 4th, 2007, 02:08 PM
original poster is correct ;)
says so on their own website, dont go-off what other websites say.
lucas1985
April 4th, 2007, 02:19 PM
If you look at Castlecops' MIRT, Antivir and Webwasher use the same names for detections.
C.S.J
April 4th, 2007, 02:26 PM
In addition to Secure Computing’s own Anti-Malware engine, the Webwasher Anti-Virus solution enables up to three brand-name A/V vendors solutions (McAfee, Sophos, and CA) to provide inbound screening of all Web traffic.
http://www.securecomputing.com/index.cfm?sKey=1654
again, it states it on their own website ???
Mcaffe, CA and Sophos.
Londonbeat
April 4th, 2007, 02:49 PM
They should update their website as Webwasher has used Antivir engine for some time. The second paragraph here (http://www.avira.com/en/company_news/av-test.de_confirms_high_detection_rates_of_avira.html) from back in 2006 on Avira's website confirms that Webwasher uses the avira engine.
pykko
April 4th, 2007, 03:51 PM
Webwasher uses AntiVir engine - 100 % sure. Londonbeat is right. ;)
Also they have some other engines... perhaps their own: heuristics and signatures.
MalwareDie
April 4th, 2007, 08:07 PM
That would make more sense i guess if it used the Avira engine. Something powered by mcafee, sophos, and computer associates stil wouldn't be that good. I doubt using those engines that it can even get a 97% detection with those engines.
FRug
April 5th, 2007, 01:32 AM
The 'heuristics' added by webwasher on top of the avira engine are pretty paranoid though, for a gateway product that is probably ok, but you certainly wouldn't want to use it on an end user system. The amount of FPs would drive you insane. The same is true for other gateway-only products btw.
To secure a company network, you probably can't get paranoid enough :)
lucas1985
April 5th, 2007, 01:53 AM
Yes, all the detections I've seen from the Webwasher's own engine are generic packers detections.
As you said, being a gateway-targeted product, this isn't surprising.
I'm building a UTM router. Thanks to HAVP, it'll run more than one AV engine. Moving "blacklist-based" security to the gateway is very tempting.
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