ESET Smart Security Public Beta 1 Status Update

[agoretsky]

Hello,

Just to give everyone a quick status update, we are currently running a bit behind schedule for the public beta test release of ESET Smart Security but expect to have it available in a few days.

I know there is a great deal of interest in seeing ESET Smart Security and our developers, QA engineers and tech writers are putting in long hours in order to ensure not just that everyone has a stable product which excellent performance, but to have a great experience with it as well.

With that in mind, though, I would like to provide folks with some background information about what is going on in order to better set your expectations about what ESET Smart Security is and is not:


ESS is the first, brand-new version of security software to be released by ESET in several years. NOD32 v2.70, v2.51 and earlier releases were version upgrades, all based on the 2.x codebase which dates back to 2003. While it is a testament to the excellence of the architecture and engineering teams that four years later it is still the basis for the same engine which protects you against viruses, worms, Trojan horses, spyware, adware and a whole host of other threats and vectors, the time for a new architecture has been approaching for some time: Over the past four years, not only has the threatscape changed, but our developers have some different and better ways to protect you against both today's and tomorrow's threats. Not all of those changes can be implemented easily on the 2.x codebase, hence the need for a codebase not just to provide us with a better platform for new features and functionality, but a better way to do established features and functionality as well.


ESS is not production code, but beta code. Unlike previous beta test cycles which tested updates to a mature codebase, ESS represents a brand-new codebase and some of the experiences you have with it will mirror those which occurred with NOD32 v1.0 and v2.0 beta-test cycles.


The Public Beta 1 drop of ESS is going to contain some rough edges, such as unfinished screens, missing online help sections and so forth. It is also going to contain bugs (errors in the program, not viruses). While we have been devoting a great deal of resources to internal testing, we also realize it is impossible to completely test ESS in all possible configurations and environments. Despite the best efforts of our developers and QA engineers, we know the code will have bugs in it which we were not exercised during internal testing we performed. We are relying on our beta testers to help us find and fix them.


The beta test cycle for ESS is going to run longer than those for previous programs. For example, NOD32 v2.70, the last product to be beta-tested publically, only added incremental features (malware reclassification, antirootkit and so forth) and support for an additional operating system (Microsoft Windows Vista). ESS is a new product and is going to have to be tested across a wide range of operating environments.


ESS is going to change through the beta test cycle. While the behavior, documentation feature set, interface and other parts which make up ESS have been planned, they are not all completely implemented yet. Also, we realize that while we have made some reasonable determinations regarding things like default feature sets and behavior, they may not be the best choices for everyone. Providing ESET with your feedback on this is just as critical as reporting bugs, and we will listen to what you have to say and take appropriate action. That does not mean we are going to implement every change and feature request we receive. But it does mean we are taking all feedback we receive very seriously.


ESS is going to frustrate you at times. ESS represents a brand-new way of doing things for ESET, and it is likely that things which were easy or simple for you to do with previous versions are not going to be as simple or as easy to do with ESS. ESS represents a new way of doing things and is going to be different than NOD32 v2.70 in a lot of ways. We realize there are people who are very comfortable with NOD32 v2.70 and are not going to like those differences. As stated in the paragraph above, this is one of the things we are looking for feedback on.


ESS is going to amaze you at times. ESS represents a brand-new way of doing things for ESET, and it is likely that things which were difficult or impossible for you to do with previous versions are going to be simple and easy to do with ESS. We hope you like those and continue to give us feedback on how we can make things easier and simpler.


You now should have a better appreciation for what is coming with ESET Smart Security and why it is taking us a few extra days to get it ready for you. You may also have noticed there are several things I have not discussed such as platform support, system requirements or specific features. The reason for this is quite simple: These will change through the beta test cycle, in large part because of feedback from you. While we have some sense of what these are going to be, we are relying on you to help us fine-tune them.

Lastly, please do not be alarmed or upset if you do not receive a prompt reply to your questions. I have other responsibilities which keep me away from the forum at times. Thank you for your understanding.

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky

[blaine]

Thank God you guys do care about us. *feels loved now* :)

[dbrisendine]

I can say for all who on this forum, thank you the update and we are willing and ready to assist. :D

[X3ro]

thanks a lot, thanks for understanding us... :)

[WSFuser]

Thank you for informing us. I do look foward to ESS and hope to make contributions.

[Chubb]

It's time to have some new excitement on the ESET forum!!! ;D ;D :thumb: :thumb:

[Brian N]

Maybe now people will stop complaining, it's getting rather old.

[PnP]

thanks you so much fot this quick update.. i still waiting and I am entusiastic to test this version in my PC :)

[Sjoeii]

Great reply by Eset.:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

I hope people will stop complaining now. It will come they are just a few days late. I rather wait a little and have a proper beta test than install it now and crashing my machine.

[Firecat]

Nice to hear about ESS....But I have some personal reservations. I mean, many of the bugs agoretsky talks about were also there in the alpha release of CeBit 2006. In this one year, I expect the product to be at least a bit better than that. Reading this message from agoretsky makes me ask where all their development went, considering that NOD32 v3 was in development since 2005....:-\

Anyway, lets see how this version of NOD fares. Thanks for the information, looking forward to the beta. :)

[SSK]

{QUOTE-> ...Reading this message from agoretsky makes me ask where all their development went, considering that NOD32 v3 was in development since 2005... <-QUOTE}How about making in making sure that it will run on Vista (both v2.7 and v3)? Lots of companies are having a hard time with Vista... :)

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> How about making in making sure that it will run on Vista (both v2.7 and v3)? Lots of companies are having a hard time with Vista... :) <-QUOTE}
If they really spent an entire year making it Vista-ready, then version 2.7 could have been released rather quickly. There are several reasons for me to doubt this. Many companies released Vista-compatible versions quite quickly. It wouldn't, and I mean it, take an entire year to develop for Vista. Vista itself changed a lot from release to release, and hence focusing on copmatibility at every stage wouldn't have been a wise decision either.

[Legendkiller]

that's nice.....good to see eset communicating their roadmap with us...

[SSK]

Firecat, what I said was: if ESET had to re-engineer both v2.7 and v3 for Vista, that would delay release a lot.

You seem to have inside knowledge about ESET development, so it is pointless for me to discuss this with you if you don't come out and state what you know instead of dropping hints here and there... :)

[pykko]

hope it is worth the waiting :)

[HiTech_boy]

Thanks very much for the information/update , Aryeh !

Hope ESS is as light as NOD32 and the fastest killer machine ;) Hope also new features represent the great entusiasm you-ESET put in the product to make it fast,light,efficent => the BEST as always :thumb:

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> Firecat, what I said was: if ESET had to re-engineer both v2.7 and v3 for Vista, that would delay release a lot.

You seem to have inside knowledge about ESET development, so it is pointless for me to discuss this with you if you don't come out and state what you know instead of dropping hints here and there... :) <-QUOTE}
I do not have any particular inside knowledge, but I have seen a leaked beta release of the CeBit 2006 version, which is why I am led to believe that very little work has been done in a year of development time. Much of the feature work was already done in the early beta, so it was (pretty much) feature-complete (though how it was implemented is another thing), but my source tells me it was darn buggy and next to inoperable due to bugs. I would have thought that the cosmetic bugs relating to the interface would have been fixed by now, considering that these are the easier types of bugs to fix. I'm pretty sure this beta would be more stable than that alpha, but I am wondering why cosmetic/GUI bugs have not been fixed.

And sure it takes a lot of time for companies to make their products Vista-compatible, but I doubt they spent all of 2006 doing this. Making a Vista-compatible version would have made sense only after the last release candidates or the RTM release was sent to Eset, all of which happened in mid-to-late 2006. So there was still the time of at least 3 months, during which interface bugs could have been fixed, unless they decided to focus on different things instead.

[Blackspear]

{QUOTE-> ...but I have seen a leaked beta release of the CeBit 2006 version... <-QUOTE}That is 12 months ago, lots of changes could have occurred during such a lengthy period.

Cheers ;D

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> That is 12 months ago, lots of changes could have occurred during such a lengthy period.

Cheers ;D <-QUOTE}
I didn't mention anything about changes, but about why Eset seems to have ignored simple interface bugs when these are the easier kinds of bugs to fix. :)

I suppose Eset decided to focus on better implementation of the features of the product instead, but the interface does create the first good impression after all, so I feel that those bugs could have received more attention than they did. :)

[X3ro]

Firecat - if you have enough time - look at the new beta of KIS 7. It has (at the moment) the old GUI of KAV/KIS 6 and a lot, lot JUST a LOT of bugs, like threating itselfs modules like viruses etc and BSODs. We all know that the ESET betas are very stable unlike the others vendors' software. Also I mension that the integrated firewall is ESET-made and it also took some (big I think) time to be vista compat. For example Agnitum says they spent an year for "beating" the new Vista architecture and they aren't put out yet even an alpha nor beta build of OP or the new Suite!

[andylau]

Thank you for this info

I hope it is worth for waiting ESS.

Don't make me feel sad, ESS!;D

[HiTech_boy]

{QUOTE-> We all know that the ESET betas are very stable unlike the others vendors' software. <-QUOTE}

Yes . ESET are very strict when it comes to stable product / quality control .

{QUOTE-> Also I mension that the integrated firewall is ESET-made and it also took some (big I think) time to be vista compat.For example Agnitum says they spent an year for "beating" the new Vista architecture and they aren't put out yet even an alpha nor beta build of OP or the new Suite! <-QUOTE}

I also believe it is the firewall that is the most difficult to develope for Vista . At least all vendors I know have had major problems with nothing but the firewall for Vista. Which means Microsoft want to make people use their own firewall .

[den_zip]

All that have been said by agoretsky sounds like usually boring commercial rubbish.
I think I have read this kind of bull on different AV home pages just before they realease anything and release it in time unlike ESET...

[Ngwana]

{QUOTE-> .. Many companies released Vista-compatible versions quite quickly.... <-QUOTE}

And that is the problem, 'basic' compatibility. Eset really took a long time, but thanks for the update.

[rdsu]

agoretsky,

Thanks for let us know about ESS...

Despite this, I think that you should make this yesterday, that was the deadline defined by ESET.

I've all the pleasure to help the ESET team to make this version outstanding like the others was and still are, but I also hope that you (ESET team) can improve the support on this forum and take the users more serious...

Regards

[Edwin024]

And I wonder what all those Eset people, who used the beta at the office for months, did with the beta... look at it, see mistakes...and that's it. Because that is the only thing I can make up out of the words of Eset's Agoretsky.

[Mascot]

{QUOTE-> I suppose Eset decided to focus on better implementation of the features of the product instead, but the interface does create the first good impression after all, so I feel that those bugs could have received more attention than they did. :) <-QUOTE}I'd rather risk the GUI shutting down on me or looking funny, than the code that handles my precious filesystem being flaky.

Whether it's good for PR to release a to beta with glaring GUI faults is another matter. If they only announce it here, not on their own webpage, I don't see the problem. If it's meant to be a "for everyone" type beta, that's another matter.

[Blackspear]

{QUOTE-> And I wonder what all those Eset people, who used the beta at the office for months, did with the beta... look at it, see mistakes...and that's it. Because that is the only thing I can make up out of the words of Eset's Agoretsky. <-QUOTE}Would you prefer ESET to say nothing, they are under no obligation to do so. Aryeh asked about the delay and advised those that were seeking answers in the forum about the answer he was given.

If ESET say nothing people complain
If ESET say something people complain ::)

Blackspear.

[rdsu]

{QUOTE-> If ESET say nothing people complain
If ESET say something people complain ::) <-QUOTE}
The problem is that ESET doesn't have the sensibility to know when they have to say something! ;)

[Lollan]

Thanks for the update, can't wait to provide some feedback!

[Capp]

I just want to say that I appreciate the information about the delay. I was just as excited as everybody else, but I do understand. As a software developer, it is such a pain in the butt to try and hit a specific date because, it never fails, the day before you get ready to push it, someone will find a new bug. Rather than push out a known bug and then try to patch it, it's easier to delay it a day or two and fix it before it is widespread.

I've been with NOD32 and been a reseller since '04 and I trust my system with their "buggy" beta over any of the competitors final version.

I've been reading all the negative posts back and forth about how horrible Eset is because they didn't deliver on the date they promised or that it took them a little longer than everyone wanted for them to post a reply on here. Why is it everyone feels they have a right to complain and demand answers over this? Eset is going to continue to make business decisions based on what they feel is the right thing to do rather than cause more work for themselves down the road. Eset has a long line of loyal customers, but that doesn't mean these customers have the right to start demanding things just because they are customers. It would be different if their current version out was buggy and caused system crashes and had horrible detection and the new version was promised to fix all of this, but it isn't. It works perfectly. It would also be different if they were just rolling out a new AV, but they are unvailing several programs that are all new to Eset. I'm sure they realize that everyone is looking at this thing under a microscope because it has to live up to its own name.

What if they had this thread on here immediately on the morning of April 2 stating it would be out in the next day or two and by that evening they learn of a major problem and have to push it back again? There would be rioting in the threads.

I know this is a "long awaited" suite that everyone is looking forward to. Trust me, I've been looking forward to this ever since I heard about it, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. v2.7 is working fine and the beta will be out shortly.

[ronjor]

Several posts removed. Any more personal attacks/rants will be removed without notice. Let's be civil on this forum.

[MaXimus666]

kthxbye

[Najmi]

thanx for the update. ok guys this is the info i have and its definitely authentic. the beta release could be delayed as far as 2 weeks but what i am promised is that will be the max delay and it will be released by then. the beta release could also happen earlier. as well

[Firecat]

I would like to clarify that I wasn't accusing Eset of anything. I was just concerned about a few things, and seeing some of the posts here, I think my doubts are largely clarified. I don't hate NOD32 or ESS, I'm quite looking forward to it. :)

[ablatt]

I can't believe people get so freaked out about a beta delay. And the outrage they feel against the company for not explaining it that day, but the next day!

Microsoft or Apple will delay O/S and product releases for months.

ESET is not a huge company like them and has limited resources, and a product like this is very complex. Cut them some slack people!

I'd rather wait another two months, and let them get it more right, then force them to release it earlier and jeopardize their reputation.

Chill, people!

[MNKid]

Thanks for the update. Eset could have saved themselves a lot of grief by simply telling us this yesterday, but that's the way it goes. I like NOD32, but was hoping to find a decent 3rd party firewall for Vista. I guess I'll just tinker with the outbound firewall in Vista and continue using NOD32 in hopes that maybe in a year or two ESS will actually get finished.

Thanks.
MNKid

And to all those complainers, me included, I say keep it up :P
If you didn't care, you wouldn't be here, so hold their feet to the fire!

[iNsuRRecTioN]

{QUOTE-> ... for what is coming with ESET Smart Security and why it is taking us a few extra days to get it ready for you.

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky <-QUOTE}

{QUOTE-> Nice to hear about ESS....But I have some personal reservations. I mean, many of the bugs agoretsky talks about were also there in the alpha release of CeBit 2006. In this one year, I expect the product to be at least a bit better than that. Reading this message from agoretsky makes me ask where all their development went, considering that NOD32 v3 was in development since 2005....:-\
<-QUOTE}
Yes, 100% agree!

It's very strange and doesn't make sense to me.

In the post is nothing explained why the beta is postponed again.. :isay: :dry:

{QUOTE-> I can't believe people get so freaked out about a beta delay. And the outrage they feel against the company for not explaining it that day, but the next day!
<-QUOTE}

You don't understand, it's not the first time they delayed it, it's delayed again and again..:-\

best regard,

iNsuRRecTiON

[toasale]

Reckon the complainers on this board, and you know who you are, will B&M (bitch & moan) if they're not offered cake and ice cream? So many in today's societies want it now and will cry to their mommies, if they don't get their way.

I know Eset produces the finest AV - you know it, as well. If you can't wait
for a new beta or an update/upgrade, buy Norton! :thumbd:

[cprtech]

Thank you for the very comprehensive update agoretsky :thumb: I'm not too concerned about product stability in the early stages, either. Acronis can always bail me out if need be ;) Still, for obvious reasons your team is doing the right thing by delaying its release until it is at least stable enough not to nuke anyone's machine. Good plan!

[Donald®]

{QUOTE-> The problem is that ESET doesn't have the sensibility to know when they have to say something! ;) <-QUOTE}
Exactly, the ESET press room on Cebit 2006 sounds as joke today, the ESET press room on Cebit 2007 sounds as hoax today. ESET needs to improve the communications with your clients.

[MNKid]

{QUOTE-> Yes, 100% agree!

It's very strange and doesn't make sense to me.

In the post is nothing explained why the beta is postponed again.. :isay: :dry:



You don't understand, it's not the first time they delayed it, it's delayed again and again..:-\

best regard,

iNsuRRecTiON <-QUOTE}


Precisely! Eset has a long pattern of doing this. I think folks have every right to share their concerns on this issue. In this instance, Eset were the ones who said April 2nd, not the "complainers'. This debate wouldn't be happening at all if they hadn't done that. So in then end, they set themselves up for this and then when folks like me question Eset's own public statments, we get lambasted.

What harm is there in letting people vent, anyway? Why are some people so sensitive when Eset is taken to task? Lighten up! When they finally do release the beta, it will be a mute point. But in the interim, yes, some of us are ticked off! Perhaps we are so passionate about this because we care too much. We actually take the time to post on this forum when it would be easier to use the mainstream security products and be done with it.

Loyalty to brand is one thing. But when a company or individual deserves criticism, then they should hear it. I, for one, will never apoligize for sharing my honest opinion in a respectful manner, despite the ridicule of others.

Next time, Eset shouldn't put out a press release touting a beta availability date unless they are sure they can deliver. Obviously, a beta program is not a life and death thing. I'm not losing any sleep over this. But what Eset did was simply bad in a PR standpoint. I'm not bailing the company, however these continuing delays do give me pause as to whether Eset is up to this.

Thanks for the opportunity to speak,
MNKid

[pykko]

{QUOTE-> Reckon the complainers on this board, and you know who you are, will B&M (bitch & moan) if they're not offered cake and ice cream? So many in today's societies want it now and will cry to their mommies, if they don't get their way. <-QUOTE}
that's simple... they said about the new beta 1 year ago when it was not even in the alpha phase. Who put them to create the fuss about it when they knew it will take a whole year or more to develop it ?

Now, they gave another data: 2nd april 2007... and nothing. Usually when you promise something you make anything to keep it, otherwise say nothing and everybody will be happy. :)

{QUOTE-> I know Eset produces the finest AV - you know it, as well. If you can't wait
for a new beta or an update/upgrade, buy Norton! :thumbd: <-QUOTE}
That's your oppinion about the finest...

[eric_259]

{QUOTE-> You don't understand, it's not the first time they delayed it, it's delayed again and again..:-\ <-QUOTE}

Yes this is true, you don't expect us to complain Capp?

[cprtech]

There is nothing wrong with people complaining and, in fact, constructive complaining helps to keep businesses and other organizations "on their toes" so to speak :)

ESET should not have declared a specific release date on their beta. They should have said nothing or, maybe better yet, given an approximate date, such as "on or about April 2007" I'm sure they have good reason not to release it yet: instability issues, incomplete features, still at Alpha stage...whatever. But they could have prevented some of the backlash by not being so specific on their beta release announcement.

[JimIT]

I think when the delays MS had with Vista are factored in--which pushed Vista to almost 11/06 before it was ready--with all it's stops and starts, it's a miracle that ESET has a public BETA ready within 6 months, of a product that was built virtually from the ground up.

Blackspear made a good post earlier: If ESET releases the beta earlier, and it hoses a bunch of machines, then it's "This BETA never should have been released to the public! Why didn't they take a couple of weeks extra to make sure it was right?"

So instead it's "righteous indignation!" that ESET missed their own deadline for a piece of BETA software--for crying out loud!

What a joke!

They can't win for losing, and IMO, to take them to task for making sure the software is AS GOOD AS IT CAN BE before you put it on YOUR COMPUTER is shameful. :dry:

[eric_259]

{QUOTE-> There is nothing wrong with people complaining and, in fact, constructive complaining helps to keep businesses and other organizations "on their toes" so to speak :) <-QUOTE}

Thank you. :)

[ablatt]

I think ESET shoud get on their hands and knees and beg forgiveness for being so callous and disrespectful.

They should have had a press release at exactly 12:01 a.m. How dare they wait one additional day when they promised me my beta on the 2nd!

In fact, I deserve a free upgrade to version 3 for them slighting me so. Maybe even free upgrades in perpetuity.

[Donald®]

{QUOTE-> ESET should not have declared a specific release date on their beta. They should have said nothing or, maybe better yet, given an approximate date, such as "on or about April 2007". <-QUOTE}
I disagree, see URL: http://www.eset.sk/tlacove_cebit
I think one image speak more then many words.............
188851

[jmc777]

{QUOTE-> Hello,

Just to give everyone a quick status update, we are currently running a bit behind schedule for the public beta test release of ESET Smart Security but expect to have it available in a few days. <-QUOTE}


You're a brave man Mr.G! ;D ;)

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> I think ESET shoud get on their hands and knees and beg forgiveness for being so callous and disrespectful.

They should have had a press release at exactly 12:01 a.m. How dare they wait one additional day when they promised me my beta on the 2nd!

In fact, I deserve a free upgrade to version 3 for them slighting me so. Maybe even free upgrades in perpetuity. <-QUOTE}
Upgrades are always free, do not worry about that. What I, and everyone else among the "complainers" want to say is that Eset makes statements without knowing whether it can fulfil them. The point is that this has happened so many times now that it begins to look like a marketing trick of sorts to keep people's interest on their product so that they can continue renewing their licenses, hence resulting in a higher sales volume. Obviously, when this thought comes to one's head, one begins to feel that Eset has been playing games with its customers for an entire year now. The feeling of being taken advantage of is not a nice one, believe me...and this is where the core of the dissatisfaction lies.

[eric_259]

{QUOTE-> I think ESET shoud get on their hands and knees and beg forgiveness for being so callous and disrespectful.

They should have had a press release at exactly 12:01 a.m. How dare they wait one additional day when they promised me my beta on the 2nd!

In fact, I deserve a free upgrade to version 3 for them slighting me so. Maybe even free upgrades in perpetuity. <-QUOTE}

We may all do, but what if they did release it and our computers would mess up, a bigger loss in ESETs hand then missing one release date. We should complain but not ask for free things. But again, it is "BETA" and "BETA" means that we should take caution in "buggy" software.

[eric_259]

{QUOTE-> I disagree, see URL: http://www.eset.sk/tlacove_cebit
I think one image speak more then many words.............
188851 <-QUOTE}

I am not good at languages. Can anyone tell me its language. I'll try hard to get a translator on that and post up what it means.

[lucas1985]

It´s Slovak or Czech.

[eric_259]

Damn, I can't do that. I would just be able to find the most common languages; Spanish, French, Portugese.. etc. Anyone know what this means in English?

[trjam]

I still say, in a little time, we will all be raving about their new suite. So dont burn them bridges, just yet folkks.

[jmc777]

{QUOTE-> I am not good at languages. Can anyone tell me its language. I'll try hard to get a translator on that and post up what it means. <-QUOTE}

Here: http://www.eset.eu/press_release_cebit_2007

[eric_259]

I don't think they are the same. Well maybe they are. Not too sure, but thanks anyways. :D

[jmc777]

{QUOTE-> I don't think they are the same. Well maybe they are. Not too sure, but thanks anyways. :D <-QUOTE}


Check the dates on both releases. ;)

[eric_259]

I suck so much on languages, I wouldn't even know how to tell :(:P

[Donald®]

{QUOTE-> It´s Slovak or Czech. <-QUOTE}
It's Slovak, but if you prefer a more complete press release in Czech:
http://www.eset.cz/ESS-beta ;D

[eric_259]

Why couldn't we just agree on one damned language :(

[X3ro]

1st I think that ESET is doing wright to delay the beta "release" cause the company (may be) is taken hard work to polish not only the ESS but the new "secret" :) product "ESET Gateway"...if you saw that post at the CeBIT site, there was such article about it or common thing - I don't remember clearly.
And 2nd - who's agree with me that ESET must do real tech. support forums where peolpe will post not only thier troubles but also can get early access for the alpha or etc. I know, the AVs are not OpenSource but such an idea may increase the interest of the mass users to the new products and decrease the beta cycle!

[rogervernon]

For heaven's sake - it's only a release of a security suite, not the second coming of Christ!

Get a sense of perspective people!
http://smilies.sofrayt.com/sae/vacation1.gif

[rothko]

{QUOTE-> What I, and everyone else among the "complainers" want to say is that Eset makes statements without knowing whether it can fulfil them. The point is that this has happened so many times now that it begins to look like a marketing trick of sorts... <-QUOTE}
Yes, i agree, and with hindsight i'm sure eset agree that giving a specific date wasnt the best move, especially considering the enthusiasm some users show on security forums for new products to play with, i mean test.

but what is "this has happened so many times now" statement? I thought it was just that eset showcased their new suite back in 2006 at cebit, then didnt actually say much about it themselves, but members on this forum were getting quite excited about it and working themselves up into quite a frenzy over it. i dont remember eset saying, "don't worry, it will be out by the end of 2006 folks". Or did they and i missed that?

I think if anything, they (eset mods on here) didnt actually say anything at all of relevance regarding the new suite.

the next i heard from eset on the subject was in march when they gave the april 2nd deadline.

i'd like to see proof of where we (nod32 license holders/fans) were dangled carrots. Not just shown carrots in a brochure like with cebit 2006, but were actually promised something that didnt materialise OTHER THAN the march 2006 statement which everyone is getting excited about here.

[vince35]

{QUOTE-> For heaven's sake - it's only a release of a security suite, not the second coming of Christ!

Get a sense of perspective people!
http://smilies.sofrayt.com/sae/vacation1.gif <-QUOTE}

It's nevertheless the third coming of NOD32 ! ;D

[JeremyWW]

{QUOTE-> For heaven's sake - it's only a release of a security suite, not the second coming of Christ!

Get a sense of perspective people!
http://smilies.sofrayt.com/sae/vacation1.gif <-QUOTE}

Agreed. Eset should probably take all this as a compliment though! The only criticism I have of Eset / NOD32, is that the current version is 'quirky', particularly the UI and it doesn't always 'live well' with other apps - startup conflicts and a 'clunky' integration with Outlook. From that point of view Eset should have brought the product forward a long time ago. I occasionally get p*ssed off with NOD32 and go and try out a KAS trial for example. Trouble is, because NOD32 induces a real sense of 'safety' (i.e. it is a damn good AV)...I always end up reinstalling my NOD32 licences, gritting my teeth, and waiting for Eset to bring out something better. So, roll on the Beta, but in the meantime, I ain't going to trust anything else to protect me and mine.

Jem

STOP PRESS

Just had an answer to my email - FYI folks...

~ Personal email message removed. Personal emails may not be posted on Wilders Security without the express permission of the sender. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding. Menorcaman ~

[eric_259]

{QUOTE-> For heaven's sake - it's only a release of a security suite, not the second coming of Christ!

Get a sense of perspective people!
http://smilies.sofrayt.com/sae/vacation1.gif <-QUOTE}

Yeah but its just as good. Maybe even better :P

[JeremyWW]

OK, I can understand why the e-mail I quoted was removed, but the essence of the message I will restate as I don't see that I'm breaking any rules or laws by doing that. ~ Doing that way is perfectly acceptable Jem. Regards, Menorcaman ~

My now 'unnamed' source at ESET told me that they plan / hope to release the Beta this week. The reason for the delay is down to "ESET's perfectionist developers".

Personally I don't have a problem with ESET's developers being perfectionists - better than releasing something 'shoddy'...

Jem

[Legendkiller]

I personally think Eset kind of has taken its customers for granted.which can probably be the reason that they quite regularly delay their product and as a matter of fact they haven't brought out a major release since 2003.

They are very lucky to maintain a large fan following despite not making any significant product updates since more than a year or two...

[henryg]

{QUOTE-> I personally think Eset kind of has taken its customers for granted.which can probably be the reason that they quite regularly delay their product and as a matter of fact they haven't brought out a major release since 2003.

They are very lucky to maintain a large fan following despite not making any significant product updates since more than a year or two... <-QUOTE}

Regardless.... ESET's NOD32 is still a very Fine product. NOD32 performance is outstanding.... It isn't just "luck" that maintains a large fan following, it simply demonstrates their loyalty and satisfaction with the product.

[musosoft]

I am from Slovakia. The text do you wrote is in slovak language. I can not download ESS PB1 from everywhere. Sorry for my bad english :D .

[TouchuvGrey]

I have a brand shiny new Vista machine here
with plenty of horsepower that i'd enjoy testing
ESS on. Been running NOD32 for years and
think very highly of it ( especially with Blackspears
tweaking )



Mike ;D

[Donald®]

{QUOTE->
They are very lucky to maintain a large fan following despite not making any significant product updates since more than a year or two... <-QUOTE}
So I think this is changing, last AV-Comparatives of Andreas Clementi ESET's down from Advanced+ to Advanced Level, last Virus Bulletin Test on Suse Linux ESET's Fail, detetction to zero day vulnerability ANI Exploit ESET's demonstrated poor performance, and in this thread we received information about this delay on ESS because the ESET's software developers are perfectionists (sic!).

Sorry guys but in my opinion this is a real sense of perspective: "something is wrong on Bratislava Castles".

[backspin]

Hey folks,

just look at this (http://www.eset.sk/download/beta_verzia)! For now slovak only, but I'm looking forward...

regards
backspin

[petersteiner]

Installation doesn't work here. "Vratenie Spät - akcie:" and then it rolls everything back. :wacko:

"Produkt nie je mozne nainstalovat, pretoze pocitac nebol restartovany po predchadzajucejt odinstalaacii. Zrestartujte pocitac a znovu spustite instalaciu."

WTF ???

[Chubb]

The NOD32 eye in 3.0 had became more colourful!!! :o :o :o :o

[Capp]

{QUOTE-> The NOD32 eye in 3.0 had became more colourful!!! :o :o :o :o <-QUOTE}

It kinda reminds me of the "Simon" game :)

Looks sweet, I can't wait for it to get here

[den_zip]

God blessed slovak and russian are brother languages

[petersteiner]

den_zip, do you understand why the installation doesn't work on my machine? Can you get it installed?

[fosius]

Hi all, I have just installed ESS.. Everything runs smoothly so far.

[mrtwolman]

{QUOTE-> Installation doesn't work here. "Vratenie Spät - akcie:" and then it rools everything back.:wacko: <-QUOTE}

Text in quotes says something like: Go back.... And it does what it should ;D

But maybe there was some longer text displayed before...

"Produkt nie je mozne nainstalovat, pretoze pocitac nebol restartovany po predchadzajucejt odinstalaacii. Zrestartujte pocitac a znovu spustite instalaciu."

text says you need to reboot after you have deinstalled previous version. Reboot and try again.

[trjam]

this is great. Hopefully they will roll it out for other countries later today. Kudos Eset.:)

[FiSz]

{QUOTE-> God blessed slovak and russian are brother languages <-QUOTE}
yep add Polish to this list ...:D ill test this beta, anyone know when English version will be available?

[HiTech_boy]

I just installed the Slovak version on my test XP Pro SP1 (800 mhz , 256 mb RAM)
I also had problem with installation , however it finised and the product is running .

First the installation hanged for a while here : Instalovanie ovladacov and before that . I simply waited (30 seconds or more) and it continied .

Then Windows warned me that "The software and the drives I install haven't passed Windows logo certification and recommended I stop the installation - about ESET Smart security and about the ESET firewall" . I accepted the installation and continued.

The icon is ok . I noticed there are two types of mode . Just like NOD , it has two processes - egui.exe and ekrn.exe (kernel and control center).It is really light on my computer (ekrn.exe the kernel uses ~26 MB RAM , the egui.exe about ~1 MB) .

The firewall works automatically which is good , asked me just once but I really do not understand Slovak and pressed "Ani" whatever it means (probably "Yes") . Really don't know .

I tested it with Eicar variants and a Trojan Simulator . The internet blocker works better than IMON and more efficently , I believe .The file scanner and the interner scanner first blocked the test threats but after that the internet scanner missed it (were caughed by the file scanner) .

Looks really interesting but I really do not understand Slovak . Go Go ESET and push the English versions (please , think about Bulgarian version :) ;D )

[HiTech_boy]

Peter , what does "Instalovanie ovladacov" and the text before it means in Slovak ?

[trjam]

good job Hitech, this may just turn out to be a joyous week yet.

[HiTech_boy]

Trjam , proud to be the first one who deeply analyzed the installation and some other stuff ;D ;D

[fosius]

{QUOTE-> Peter , what does "Instalovanie ovladacov" and the text before it means in Slovak ? <-QUOTE}

It means "Installing drivers...."

[VikingStorm]

Sheesh, you guys can't even wait for your native language versions. ;D

[HiTech_boy]

{QUOTE-> It means "Installing drivers...." <-QUOTE}

Thanks very much .

[mrtwolman]

{QUOTE-> Peter , what does "Instalovanie ovladacov" and the text before it means in Slovak ? <-QUOTE}

"Instalovanie ovladacov" = Drivers instalation.

[trjam]

use this

http://www.ectaco.co.uk/English-Slovak-Dictionary/

[HiTech_boy]

Thank you , too , Peter :thumb:

[petersteiner]

I got it running now. I already had 2.7 uninstalled but maybe there were some leftover folders.

Definitely dig the new interface!

[pykko]

very nice of you ESET. mrtwolman, is the international (english) version going to be released today also ?

[Steel]

And the german, too ? ::)

[den_zip]

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1485/20070405212524gq7.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1715/20070405212503dy8.jpg

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/7033/20070405213817dd1.jpg

[trjam]

well hopefully. But I think all the chit chat can cease now that the proof is out there. ;)

[Seer]

Hello, :)

Yea, it's really hard to try this when you don't understand the language. Firewall is nice and original, there are rules, although I don't see the TCP flag-level filtering. But I have no doubts that it is stateful. Supports IPv6, of course. A little confusing layout, but I suppose that you have to get used to it, classic ESET style :D . The resources are in two processes, the service and the GUI, the service takes just over 30Mbs. Please continue (native slovak speakers)... :D

[n8chavez]

Doe anyone have any information regardibg v3 of the standalone AV. I am quite keen of LnS and see no need to switch. But who knows, never say never.

[ph2000]

Well, now there is: http://www.eset.com/beta/ to sign up for early access to ESS beta 1.

I really don't want to get myself banded but -
if you look at the download string for the 'non-english' version - coming from
"h**p://download1.eset.com/special/essbeta/..."

then replace with the correct 3 letter for the language.... you may be happier :D

Of course, it may need a number to activate it.

[doctor IT]

Of course it won't work.

[Steel]

Where are the ESET Mods. giving a little bit advice or support how to install the beta in the right way.

And please answer to the question when the other languages will be pushed out ( english, german ) ?

[JeremyWW]

I don't understand. Why do we have to sign up to be 'considered' for Beta testing, when it's freely available as a non English download?

[FiSz]

it instals quite easly... most of the options are similar to the ones from 2.x version,

[HiTech_boy]

{QUOTE-> I don't understand. Why do we have to sign up to be 'considered' for Beta testing, when it's freely available as a non English download? <-QUOTE}

I don't like this
{QUOTE-> Please bear in mind there are a limited number of openings in the beta test program, and not everyone who applies will be selected <-QUOTE}
I think everybody should be able to test it , not only in Slovak language . I applied but haven't received anything.

By the way , with the Slovak version , I have problems with the Internet scanner , I doesn't block threats .
Example: I click on a threat file , the first time it gets blocked . However if I refresh the page/attempt to download it again , it gets undetected by the internet scanner .

No problem with the firewall or with the on-access scanner.

[trjam]

I agree HiTech, its like pulling teeth out of a bear for us to get to it. Agravating.::)

[JeremyWW]

For the first time, I'm getting a tad concerned that Eset are losing their grip. This all seems a bit rushed / messy and...no English version / inconsistent release policy. Maybe it's time to look further afield...but where? KAS?...no way...Avast?...neat but I don't trust it...AVG?...not a chance...anyone...?? ???

[trjam]

no it is not time to look elsewhere. It has just been a few hours and they did warn us it was raw. Send it out now to all, and just think what would happen here. I think we might see it more avalable next week.

[JeremyWW]

{QUOTE-> I personally think Eset kind of has taken its customers for granted.which can probably be the reason that they quite regularly delay their product and as a matter of fact they haven't brought out a major release since 2003.

They are very lucky to maintain a large fan following despite not making any significant product updates since more than a year or two... <-QUOTE}

That may be so...but even with my grumbles, I wouldn't touch the product you seem to be promoting with the proverbial bargepole (...are you a 'big yellow' employee...?? I think so...). The 'leader' should change...

"Norton - the Internet Security product that protects you by bringing your PC to it's knees" (Winner of the 'Bloatware Award 2007')

[eric_259]

{QUOTE-> "Norton - the Internet Security product that protects you by bringing your PC to it's knees" (Winner of the 'Bloatware Award 2007') <-QUOTE}

Hehe, Norton sucks. You shouldn't trust it on your computer. More people had MORE problems with Norton then without Norton.

[Seer]

Hi there.

{QUOTE-> they haven't brought out a major release since 2003. <-QUOTE}

This is exactly why ESET maintains a fan base. If you can make a product which is rated so high after four years of existence, that certainly says a lot about quality. Is the now old v2.7 a bad AV? No, it is one of the best, despite its age...

[JeremyWW]

{QUOTE-> no it is not time to look elsewhere. It has just been a few hours and they did warn us it was raw. Send it out now to all, and just think what would happen here. I think we might see it more available next week. <-QUOTE}

So?? That's not a reason to release it as a Slovak only download. If it's that raw don't release it at all - wait another week or two. All that's happened now is ESET have put people's noses 'out of joint' by not releasing an English version. Most other software companies go for an English release first followed by international versions. And...I was told by Eset UK to expect a release this week. And...we have to 'sign up' for the damn thing. Sorry, but I can't agree with your logic. They are not behaving in the way that most other software companies do, and I've been in the IT industry for 20 years. My concerns are, I confess, also compounded by the apparent drop in performance reviews.

Warning! These posts are getting out of sync. I'm not being inconsistent - I AM disappointed in ESET and concerned that NOD32 is dropping behind, albeit slightly, BUT...I wouldn't waste my money on a Symantec product, neither would I recommend anyone else to do the same.

[BlueZannetti]

To all:

Please stay on topic. Thanks in advance.

Blue

[trjam]

First, Performance drop is a big statement. If we are talking a point or two based on the last ratings at IBKs, well to me it isnt a quantifying factor. As far as the release, I agree, I would love to see the english version so I am not saying you are wrong. But how ever they do it, they are doing it, so lets just give it some time my friend. It may pan out yet where we both can sit back and smile.:)

[ph2000]

Okay - it's

http://download1.eset.com/special/essbeta/ess_nt32_enu.msi

until some realizes it's been discovered.

Much too easy for a security company.

[Brian N]

That looks pretty damn cool. It's going to be nice to finally try it out :thumb:

[trjam]

I grabbed it.

[eric_259]

Damn, thanks a lot.

[VikingStorm]

{QUOTE-> Okay - it's

http://download1.eset.com/special/essbeta/ess_nt32_enu.msi

until some realizes it's been discovered.

Much too easy for a security company. <-QUOTE}
I don't see why they would remove/protect it even if they have a sign-up page. After all they did call it a public beta.

[trjam]

Damn, I think I have just seen the future. This is really frigging nice. I cant not fathom how they did this, but Marcos, I am bowing, right now. This looks awesome. Geez, I think I just had one.::)

[trjam]

But it will take a "few" of Blackspears recomendations, especially on pre-scheduled scanning.

[JeremyWW]

{QUOTE-> Okay - it's

http://download1.eset.com/special/essbeta/ess_nt32_enu.msi

until some realizes it's been discovered.

Much too easy for a security company. <-QUOTE}

Thanks for that. I can feel sanity returning...you caught me just in time before doing something silly like downloading a KIS trial...

[ph2000]

Ditto -

Finally got it installed. No big problem.
Looks nice - very quiet (not killing me with pop-ups).
SSM doesn't seem to have a problem with it and visa versa..

That's just a quick look. How the firewall holds up under hard core scrutiny - I must leave that to the experts.
:)

Cool.

Ah - Took it out of automatic mode. There are the pop-ups. Hope, automatic mode is okay most ofthe time.
Wonder if there should be a learning mode or if that's the same thing.

>>> But it will take a "few" of Blackspears recomendations, especially on pre-scheduled scanning.

Oh yes - and you can save the configuration!

[mainer]

To quote Jackie Gleason.
"How sweet it is"

[trjam]

no problems with the setup. Antispam looks nice and the firewall. Like a said, there are a few settings advice might be needed. But if this is raw, well, it looks well done to me.:) ;)

[Blackspear]

An announcement by ESET will be forthcoming shortly.

Remember this is a BETA, it may well trash your system, test it ONLY if you are prepared for this outcome.


Blackspear.

[trjam]

Trash mine, I like it, but do understand. BS, this is really nice and worth the risk, at least to me.

[Triple Helix]

{QUOTE-> An announcement by ESET will be forthcoming shortly.Blackspear. <-QUOTE}

Thanks Blackspear! ;D

TH

[covaro]

Woooo! Going on the Virtual Machine as we speak!!

-Cov

[trjam]

Folks, listen to Blackspears. I had to back mine out. It locked up on a scan. DO NOT DOWNLOAD UNTIL ESET SAYS SO. Sorry, but he is right. Thats ok, I can wait patiently after what I just saw. It was, damn, great.

[JeremyWW]

So far I like it. ESET shouldn't be so coy...I'm in interactive mode for the F/W and now that I've trained it in the basic connections, it's working well. No blocking, no unnecessary popups so far. Hmmm...and I have a 'Help' system!! :)

[jmc777]

{QUOTE-> So far I like it. ESET shouldn't be so coy...I'm in interactive mode for the F/W <-QUOTE}


The Firewall was the first thing I had a play with. :) Everything looks pretty good so far!

[JeremyWW]

{QUOTE-> Folks, listen to Blackspears. I had to back mine out. It locked up on a scan. DO NOT DOWNLOAD UNTIL ESET SAYS SO. Sorry, but he is right. Thats ok, I can wait patiently after what I just saw. It was, damn, great. <-QUOTE}

Pah! Just ran a background in depth scan with no probs whatsoever. Dual Core Athlon 4400+ CPU with 2 Gb DDRRAM means I'm doing other stuff at the same time with no slow down. I've also done one 'warm' reboot and a cold start. If this trashes my system I'll recover from my disc image, but I don't believe it's going to trash anything based on the last half hour's experience.

[killer_uk]

What is the resource usage like? :)

[Triple Helix]

{QUOTE-> Folks, listen to Blackspears. I had to back mine out. It locked up on a scan. DO NOT DOWNLOAD UNTIL ESET SAYS SO. Sorry, but he is right. Thats ok, I can wait patiently after what I just saw. It was, damn, great. <-QUOTE}

OK, What came first the Chicken or the Egg? LOL All in good fun! ;D

TH

[ashishtx]

So far so good,
1) It did not install on xp 64bit version.
2)NO right click scan available.
3) The firewall fails the GRC leak test.
4) The firewall is somewhat similar to kerio.

For some reasons, the eye logo in the splash screen reminds me of windows media player logo and
even the Update logo is similar to idisk logo of apple.

188910

188911

[Triple Helix]

{QUOTE-> What is the resource usage like? :) <-QUOTE}

30 to 35 MB's and I'm doing a full scan!

[ph2000]

My one firewall issue is Cisco VPN does not want to connect. Tried somethings - it works if I turn off filtering - when I connect it puts the IP into the trusted network. Even went thru steps to get Outpost to work with Cosco's VPN. So far, only when I put on automatic will it work.

Oh well - something will fix it.

[ashishtx]

yes, as Triple helix said above the ram usage is in the range of 28mb to 36 mb :)

[JeremyWW]

{QUOTE-> So far so good,
1) It did not install on xp 64bit version.
2)NO right click scan available.
3) The firewall fails the GRC leak test.
4) The firewall is somewhat similar to kerio. <-QUOTE}

Wrong. It does not fail the leak test. I just ran the test and asked ESS to deny access, which it did. The leak test app confirmed success. Suggest you check what you have allowed ESS to pass and try again.

No, there doesn't seem to be a 'Context Menu' profile as yet. Whilst this is disappointing I trust ESET will add this soon.

[Brian N]

Here's a bunch of screenshots for anyone not comfortable with trying out a beta ;)

http://nod32sse.com/ess/thumb/ess_02.jpg (http://nod32sse.com/ess/ess_02.jpg) http://nod32sse.com/ess/thumb/ess_03.jpg (http://nod32sse.com/ess/ess_03.jpg) http://nod32sse.com/ess/thumb/ess_04.jpg (http://nod32sse.com/ess/ess_04.jpg) http://nod32sse.com/ess/thumb/ess_05.jpg (http://nod32sse.com/ess/ess_05.jpg) http://nod32sse.com/ess/thumb/ess_06.jpg (http://nod32sse.com/ess/ess_06.jpg) http://nod32sse.com/ess/thumb/ess_07.jpg (http://nod32sse.com/ess/ess_07.jpg) http://nod32sse.com/ess/thumb/ess_09.jpg (http://nod32sse.com/ess/ess_09.jpg) http://nod32sse.com/ess/thumb/ess_10.jpg (http://nod32sse.com/ess/ess_10.jpg) http://nod32sse.com/ess/thumb/ess_11.jpg (http://nod32sse.com/ess/ess_11.jpg) http://nod32sse.com/ess/thumb/ess_20.jpg (http://nod32sse.com/ess/ess_20.jpg) http://nod32sse.com/ess/thumb/ess_12.jpg (http://nod32sse.com/ess/ess_12.jpg) http://nod32sse.com/ess/thumb/ess_16.jpg (http://nod32sse.com/ess/ess_16.jpg) http://nod32sse.com/ess/thumb/ess_14.jpg (http://nod32sse.com/ess/ess_14.jpg) http://nod32sse.com/ess/thumb/ess_18.jpg (http://nod32sse.com/ess/ess_18.jpg) http://nod32sse.com/ess/thumb/ess_15.jpg (http://nod32sse.com/ess/ess_15.jpg) http://nod32sse.com/ess/thumb/ess_19.jpg (http://nod32sse.com/ess/ess_19.jpg)

[ashishtx]

It did not pass the test when the firewall was set to automatic but it passed , when I put firewall to interactive filtering.

Nice screenshots BRIAN N .

[mrtwolman]

{QUOTE-> No, there doesn't seem to be a 'Context Menu' profile as yet. Whilst this is disappointing I trust ESET will add this soon. <-QUOTE}

Remember this is first beta with not full set of features of the final version.

[killer_uk]

This is a little off topic, but down the line, will there be a standalone 3.0 antivirus released? Thanks.

[JeremyWW]

{QUOTE-> Remember this is first beta with not full set of features of the final version. <-QUOTE}

That's understood...np here...

[JeremyWW]

{QUOTE-> This is a little off topic, but down the line, will there be a standalone 3.0 antivirus released? Thanks. <-QUOTE}

Actually that's a good question. As I have a hardware firewall I'd rather have a trimmed down version without the F/W as Kaspersky do.

[Netherlands]

The only thing that doesnt seem to work for me is the e-mail tag in outlook!

Also in advance setting under user interface:

When i set "Use animated icons ......" and "use sound signal" then this is not remembered!

[trjam]

well, I did a reinstall and left everything as is, until BS says differently. Good so far.

[Triple Helix]

Scanned fine here and in good time!

TH

[JeremyWW]

{QUOTE-> The only thing that doesnt seem to work for me is the e-mail tag in outlook!

Also in advance setting under user interface:

When i set "Use animated icons ......" and "use sound signal" then this is not remembered! <-QUOTE}

Interesting...I always get a tag in my incoming mails - can't turn it off!

Yes, you're right. It doesn't hold those two UI settings.

[veri]

{QUOTE-> Okay - it's

http://download1.eset.com/special/essbeta/ess_nt32_enu.msi

until some realizes it's been discovered.

Much too easy for a security company. <-QUOTE}

Snagged, thanks.

[Get]

Is this (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?p=677353#post677353) issue fixed in the Beta?

[lodore]

i just signed up cant wait to test it!
i love the new interface shown in the screenshots.
lodore

[WSFuser]

{QUOTE-> Installation doesn't work here. "Vratenie Spät - akcie:" and then it rolls everything back. :wacko:

"Produkt nie je mozne nainstalovat, pretoze pocitac nebol restartovany po predchadzajucejt odinstalaacii. Zrestartujte pocitac a znovu spustite instalaciu."

WTF ??? <-QUOTE}
i tried installing the english version and im having the same issue unfortunatly :(

[VikingStorm]

{QUOTE-> i tried installing the english version and im having the same issue unfortunatly :( <-QUOTE}
See if there are any leftover registry entries for Eset. I deleted them, and was able to install.

[flyrfan111]

Anybody else having trouble with the firewall? It keeps saying it is corrupted and to reinstall. I have reinstalled with repair once, totally uninstalled and reinstalled and same result.

[ankupan]

Hi,

Is it possible to add this Tag in outgoing emails ??
its only in incoming emails, but I want to add in outgoing emails too.


__________ Information from Eset Smart Security, version of virus signature database 2170 (20070405) __________

The message was checked by Eset Smart Security.
http://www.eset.com

[mvdu]

How long does it take to get the beta after submitting an application? I submitted mine about 15 minutes ago, and have gotten no download e-mail.

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> How long does it take to get the beta after submitting an application? I submitted mine about 15 minutes ago, and have gotten no download e-mail. <-QUOTE}I did the same earlier this evening (say about 3-1/2 hours ago...), no response as yet. My guess - tomorrow or so - at least for me since I'm about done for now...

Blue

[mvdu]

Thanks for the response. I was wondering if something was wrong with my e-mail.

[Triple Helix]

I got my response in 20 minutes!

TH

[mvdu]

When did you send it, Triple Helix? Perhaps Eset is on break for the night now.

[MNKid]

Thanks for the d/l link, although my email came from Eset with 30 min.

MNKid

[britchey]

Installed without a glitch - running without a glitch - so far so good.

Dell D620
Intel Dual Core T7400 2.16 Ghz
2 GB RAM
80 GB HDD
Win Vista Business

[Legendkiller]

how big is the setup file? i am still awaiting the e-mail from eset....

[mrtwolman]

{QUOTE-> how big is the setup file? i am still awaiting the e-mail from eset.... <-QUOTE}

16.5 MB

[Legendkiller]

wow,i got my download link in 2mins..............setup file quite small.........similar to kas

[tyffen]

Hi guys,

First of all, great forum. Been lurking a few days. Quite a knowledge base. Anyway, on topic:
Got my download in about 10 min. Uninstalled Comodo and NOD32. The install went fine, no problems. First boot up after install was a bit slow, but since then its been fine. Memory usage seems reasonable:
188925

[Legendkiller]

{QUOTE-> Hi guys,

First of all, great forum. Been lurking a few days. Quite a knowledge base. Anyway, on topic:
Got my download in about 10 min. Uninstalled Comodo and NOD32. The install went fine, no problems. First boot up after install was a bit slow, but since then its been fine. Memory usage seems reasonable:
188925 <-QUOTE}
pretty decent........quite expected of eset.

[ankupan]

Hi,

When I ran Complete Scan than

It shown a virus file, but when I clicked on "Delete", there is no action and message window is still on screen.

this thing happened three times, but when I am scanning a single file, than I can delete that file.

Why so ? is it bug ? unable to delete during complete scan.

[Tomas]

Hi

{QUOTE-> i tried installing the english version and im having the same issue unfortunatly :( <-QUOTE}

Please, run installation with parameters "ess_nt32_enu.msi /lvx* something.log" and send logfile together with problem description to betasupport@eset.sk.
If /lvx* doesnt work, use just /l

This could be helpful for any installation-related problem.
Thanks

Tomas

[Dugite]

can some one tell me is it possible to put your NOD32 username/password into the fields in the beta or will it not take them, I don't want to try just yet as I don't have the beta password

[Marcos]

If you are a registered user you can use your current username and password to update.

[C.S.J]

think i will give it a whirl,

gotta at least try it and see the hype, interface does look amazing though, so kudos to the guys who made that :)

[trjam]

I had to back out until later. Mostly connection and freezing issues.

[Edwin024]

No 64 bit version for Vista... oh my, after being under development for more than a year.

[HiTech_boy]

{QUOTE-> No 64 bit version for Vista... oh my, after being under development for more than a year. <-QUOTE}

This will for sure be added in later developments .

If you want to enjoy first class protection , you are more than welcome to install NOD32 Anti-Threat system which will protect your x64 Windows.

[Legendkiller]

very satisfied with the beta........only thing i haven't done is full-system scan........

[tyffen]

I just sent a report to the beta support site. If I do a scan (full or custom), and I click on "Show Log File", my CPU usage spikes to about 100%, memory goes up to about 70MB,

188931

the ESS window freezes (see below), and I have to shutdown egui.exe and ekrn.exe through Task Manager (ekrn.exe immediately restarts itself).

188934

The CPU usage drops, but then my Desktop freezes and I have to do a hard reboot.
As long as I keep the log file hidden, it's okay. CPU usage is anywhere from 5-50%, and memory usage only increases by about 5 MB.

188935

Although, at times, the Scan status and controls (Pause, Stop) will flicker (disappear and reappear).

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Only other thing I've noticed is my boot up time has increased by about a minute.

For a first beta, though I'm very impressed, and having fun testing it.

One more thing. The firewall (default rules, nothing changed) passed Leaktest, Too Leaky, and PC Audit's test. It failed Wallbreaker and PC Flank's Test (the text I typed was there on the web page when I opened it with my browser). Those are the only tests I have on hand.

[finalcut]

my version 2 license expire today. Can I just renew for 2 years, like I usually do and then put user/pass in the version 3? And is this will work also with the final version of version 3? Or we will have to pay again?

[wch_net]

Just installed ESS v3.0.128.0 on Vista, nice interface and notifications;

Mainly trying out ESS's firewall to compare with "Comodo Firewall" currently on my production system.

[Monos22]

Thank you for you develop great security pack .

[Blackcat]

{QUOTE-> my version 2 license expire today. Can I just renew for 2 years, like I usually do and then put user/pass in the version 3? <-QUOTE}
Works here with the beta Suite and should work with the new standalone AV when it is released.
{QUOTE-> And is this will work also with the final version of version 3? Or we will have to pay again? <-QUOTE}
For present license holders, the upgrade to the standalone AV will be free, but an upgrade to the Suite will cost extra. This is the same policy as other vendors.

[WSFuser]

{QUOTE-> Hi



Please, run installation with parameters "ess_nt32_enu.msi /lvx* something.log" and send logfile together with problem description to betasupport@eset.sk.
If /lvx* doesnt work, use just /l

This could be helpful for any installation-related problem.
Thanks

Tomas <-QUOTE}
Ive just sent the logs. I hope they help :-\

[yaba]

i'm sad because there is no more possibility to exclude partitions or folders !!

[C.S.J]

ok with the little play i did have with the software, i wasnt overly impressed and i acronised outta there :)

lets hope it gets better for release

[lu_chin]

I think folder exclusion will be in the official final version 3.0.

{QUOTE-> i'm sad because there is no more possibility to exclude partitions or folders !! <-QUOTE}

[JeremyWW]

{QUOTE-> ok with the little play i did have with the software, i wasnt overly impressed and i acronised outta there :)

lets hope it gets better for release <-QUOTE}

Why? More detailed feedback would be more useful...

[rothko]

{QUOTE-> ok with the little play i did have with the software, i wasnt overly impressed and i acronised outta there :)

lets hope it gets better for release <-QUOTE}
to be fair, that is pointless feedback in a beta testing forum. if you choose to install it then you do so knowing that it is its FIRST public beta testing outing and you are willing to provide constructive criticism to help aid its development.

[JeremyWW]

{QUOTE-> to be fair, that is pointless feedback in a beta testing forum. if you choose to install it then you do so knowing that it is its FIRST public beta testing outing and you are willing to provide constructive criticism to help aid its development. <-QUOTE}

Indeed...

[yaba]

{QUOTE-> I think folder exclusion will be in the official final version 3.0. <-QUOTE}

i hope so otherwise i keep kaspersky.

thank you

[Blackspear]

{QUOTE-> my version 2 license expire today. Can I just renew for 2 years, like I usually do and then put user/pass in the version 3? And is this will work also with the final version of version 3? Or we will have to pay again? <-QUOTE}Pricing has not yet been set, normally current license holders can upgrade to the same product for free, however a upgrade to an advance feature set product like the suite is like to see a small fee charged.

Cheers ;D

[Blackspear]

{QUOTE-> i'm sad because there is no more possibility to exclude partitions or folders !! <-QUOTE}This is a FIRST release Beta, many features are yet to be implemented.

Cheers ;D

[Timo Schmidt]

Will there be a "pure" antivirus-system like NOD32 2.7 available too?

Or is this suite the complete and only replacement for NOD32 2.7 ?


Greetings

Timo

[Blackcat]

There will be a standalone AV ;)

[Timo Schmidt]

{QUOTE-> There will be a standalone AV ;) <-QUOTE}

Very nice :D :)

[DOOOMKULTUS]

I saw this review on some site(can't name it),I havent personally tried it yet,waiting for download link.It seems genuine and informative.


Eset Smart Security Beta 1 Test/Review by [deXter]
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Program Test
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Overview:

Firstly, this isn't just a simple bundle of Firewall + Antivirus + Antispam. Its a completely integrated (single) product; a single service "Eset Service" controls and contains the entire app. (You cannot disable this service from the service manager)

Interface:

The interface is a fresh change from the old NOD32 look. It has a slick vista-inspired look. The interface also reminds one of Kaspersky Internet Security. All notification messages are delivered using a sleek popup baloon, that fades in/out.

Performance:

As expected, performance was great! It didn't slow down a PIII PC with 256 MB ram. Although memory usage was higher than what NOD32 users are normally used to (~30 MB), the CPU usage was constantly zero. But considering that you're getting a Firewall, AntiVirus and AntiSpam all in under 30 MB, it does use considerably lesser memory compared to its competitors.

Bugs:

The hotkeys Ctrl+R, Ctrl+M doesn't work. The Real-time filesystem protection couldn't be disabled from the main interface. Links like "Configure", "Enter antivirus protection advanced setup", etc in the Advanced mode sometimes don't work. Clicking on Enable/Disable on the other modules worked, but the interface doesn't update (you need to change between advanced/simple interfaces)

Limitations:

Keyboard shortcuts aren't present for the main options. It's not possible to scroll down the window using the Arrow/PgDn keys. It's not possible to quickly disable the entire program, if needed.


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Firewall Tests
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I) GRC Shields UP!
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- Port Test:

"Your system has achieved a perfect "TruStealth" rating. Not a single packet — solicited or otherwise — was received from your system as a result of our security probing tests."

- Messenger Spam:

No spam was received

II) Firewall Leak Tester
--------------------------

1. LeakTest:

Passed! When Leak Tester attempted to connect, Eset firewall presented a neat prompt asking me whether to allow it to connect it or not.

2. TooLeaky:

Passed! There was no leak.

3. FireHole:

The AntiVirus module picked this up as a trojan and didn't allow to download. Since I couldn't disable the antivirus, I had to remove "EXE" from the file-types to be scanned.

Failed! FireHole was able to connect by injecting code into the Internet Explorer process, since IE was allowed to connect normally, ESS didn't prompt or alert. This however, shouldn't be a problem if you're on Vista.

4. Yalta:

Can't Say - ESS did give a allow/deny prompt , but it was too late - Yalta had already sent UDP packets. However, when "Deny" was clicked, a new rule was created and Yalta was unable to send any further packets.

5. Outbound:

Did Not run - Outbound was unable to detect the ethernet adapter, and hence was unable to work.

6. PCAudit:

Failed!

7. AWFT:

Test 1 - Failed!*
Test 2 - Failed!*
Test 3 - Failed!**
Test 4 - Failed!*
Test 5 - Failed!
Test 6 - Failed!

Note: All above tests failed on Windows XP but passed on Windows Vista.

8. Thermite:

Failed!

9. CopyCat:

Failed!

10. MBTest:

Did not run. Apparently the MAC has to be hardcoded, but the source files aren't available for download.

11. WallBreaker:

Test 1 : Failed!*
Test 2 : Failed!*
Test 3 : Failed!*
Test 4 : Failed!*

12. pcAudit

Failed!

13. Ghost

Failed!

14. DNStester
`
Failed!

15. Surfer

Failed!*

16. Breakout

Did not run. File not found.

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Summary of areas where ESS fails
----------------------------------------------------------------

- DLL Injection / Process patching
- Launching under different context
- Timed attacks / PID Changing
- DDE based attacks

[stadi]

Interactive mode doesn't work for me. After system start it works for a few minutes but after it it doesn't. For example it assked for the Vista Sidebar and svchost but when I started my browser it did not. I rebooted, then it also asked for some applications but after some minutes it stopped again.

Id like to see some pre defined standard rules in the firewall, like Outpost has. Like: e-mail, browser, ftp-client etc...

Also like in Outpost i'd like to have the rules categorized as allowed and blocked and maybe allowed with rules.

[Pwntje]

Just registered here to give some feedback about this beta. I just installed it on Windows Vista Ultimate Dutch, and after ~1 minute the pc locks up. Ctrl Alt Del doesnt work. Nothing works anymore. I can only reboot and then after 1 minute the same is happening. I removed the 3 drivers from ESET in C:\windows\system32\drivers + the install directory, and then Windows works again. I have no idea why, and I would really like to install ESS, because a good firewall can come in handy with Windows Vista.
Anyone else having the same problems? And maybe found a solution?
Thanks.

[mvdu]

I get a blue screen every time I install ESS on my Vista system. I even tried uninstalling some other security programs and turning off User Access Control. Nothing seems to work. Sorry I can't be of help.

[wilbertnl]

{QUOTE-> I get a blue screen every time I install ESS on my Vista system. I even tried uninstalling some other security programs and turning off User Access Control. Nothing seems to work. Sorry I can't be of help. <-QUOTE}
Actually, informing them about this could be very helpful. The beta test is not about making everything run without problems. It's purpose is to get as miuch information as possible about the current problems.

[IsLNdbOi]

Where do I sign up to beta test the English version?

[Teazle]

www.eset.com/beta

[IsLNdbOi]

I don't know what I did wrong, but after uninstalling NOD32 (latest non-beta version) and then installing ESS Beta 1, my Outlook 2003 won't send/receive any emails.

[maddawgz]

id like to see antispyware in it...i dont use firewall much, also compatiable with incredimail...when email scans? MD

[HiTech_boy]

{QUOTE-> I don't know what I did wrong, but after uninstalling NOD32 (latest non-beta version) and then installing ESS Beta 1, my Outlook 2003 won't send/receive any emails. <-QUOTE}


If you want help , you'd better post information to work with ... :thumb:

And to start-up , make sure your firewall is in automatic mode so that it automatically allows Outlook.exe access . Otherwise , check your rules .

[marty56]

I tried to install the Beta under Vista and even after uninstalling my current version of NOD32, the installer wont install because it thinks that there is a version of NOD32 on my system allready.

Could be a Vista issue but the funny thing is that i have had more prbobelms with software that wont install under Vista rather then problems with the software once it was installed.

As I dont "tweak' my copy of Vista and my system is a fairly common one, it is very frustrating to have problems like this, even with Beta software.

If I didnt really like NOD32 (I own 2 copies on my dual boot computer), I would just look for AV/Firewall software somewhere else.

[toasale]

You know the AV component is better, but 2.7 is SO good!
:thumb:

[Maxkaos]

{QUOTE-> I tried to install the Beta under Vista and even after uninstalling my current version of NOD32, the installer wont install because it thinks that there is a version of NOD32 on my system allready. <-QUOTE}
Same problem with XP PRO.

1 - Remove NOD32 2.7
2 - Open RegEdit, find all keys with "nod32" and remove it
3 - Try to install ESS

[maddawgz]

why doesnt it like application data identities Incredimail message store folder, takes forever to scan that even with other versions not sure why Also the web scanner is so slowwwwwwwwwwww when browsing apart from that rekon it would be good, MD

[trjam]

I reinstalled it 2 days ago and it has worked like a charm.:) Being the jerk I am, I think I owe Marcos an apology.. :( I am liking this suite more and more and as I said, I am having no issues.:) Even running sandboxie with it.

[stueycaster]

{QUOTE-> I tried to install the Beta under Vista and even after uninstalling my current version of NOD32, the installer wont install because it thinks that there is a version of NOD32 on my system allready. <-QUOTE}

I had the same thing happen with XP Home. I disconnected the network cable and it installed correctly.

[OAKside]

{QUOTE-> I tried to install the Beta under Vista and even after uninstalling my current version of NOD32, the installer wont install because it thinks that there is a version of NOD32 on my system allready. <-QUOTE}

Try running CCleaner (http://www.ccleaner.com/) to clean registry and uninstall NOD32 entries.
Try running MyUninstaller (http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/myuninst.html) to uninstall NOD32 entries.
I also run my fave, Registry Mechanic (payware), every couple weeks.

{QUOTE-> I had the same thing happen with XP Home. I disconnected the network cable and it installed correctly. <-QUOTE}

That's just weird.

[roaringhere]

After few days of testing, I like it so far, and I have asked some of my friends
to beta test this with their system as well. I also encourage them to send bug
reports or feature request if they find it necessary...

[stueycaster]

{QUOTE-> id like to see antispyware in it...i dont use firewall much, also compatiable with incredimail...when email scans? MD <-QUOTE}
Nod32 A/V works against spyware too.

[stueycaster]

Quote:
Originally Posted by stueycaster
I had the same thing happen with XP Home. I disconnected the network cable and it installed correctly.


{QUOTE-> That's just weird. <-QUOTE}
I got the idea from a couple other people that it happened to.