Avira suite or Nod32 + Firewall?

[light50]

Hi guys,

i'm searching for an antivirus for my laptop, and the choice is between avira and nod, since i couldn't find a trial version for avira i thought of asking some users here about their experience. Are there any big differences between the 2 av mostly regarding detection and cleaning? I also need a firewall and couldn't find anything on avira so don't know which one to choose.

[C.S.J]

my vote goes for nod32 here.

http://www.free-av.com/

thats the free version of avira, lacks spyware scan and email scan and has a popup thing, but you should still see what the program is like.

[JerryM]

For whatever reason the free trial is for the Workstation. I am tiying it now, and have used it on another computer. I find it is one of the best, although there have been some minor problems that can be found on their forum.
http://www.avira.com/en/downloads/avira_antivir_workstation.html

http://forum.antivir-pe.de/index.php

Give the Workstation a try, and I think you will find it one of the lightest around.
If there is a trial of the Premium version, I have not found it.

Regards,
Jerry

[light50]

i am trying it now.. both are light and according to av-comparatives have great heuristic detection, what are your opinions when it comes to deleting virii? i also don't know what to do about the firewall, anyone using the avira one?

[trjam]

Avira, better detection and protection.:)

[HiTech_boy]

{QUOTE-> Hi guys,

i'm searching for an antivirus for my laptop
...

Avira suite or Nod32 + Firewall? <-QUOTE}

ESET Smart Security (http://www.eset.eu/press_release_cebit_2007)

I'm sure if you try it , you'll be impressed . Starts 02 April :thumb: ;)

[C.S.J]

yep, adding firewall and antispam and a nice GUI, looks promising ;)

more promising that the latest beta avira suite thats for sure.

[trjam]

{QUOTE-> yep, adding firewall and antispam and a nice GUI, looks promising ;)

more promising that the latest beta avira suite thats for sure. <-QUOTE}
Looks can be deceiving.;)

[HiTech_boy]

{QUOTE-> yep, adding firewall and antispam and a nice GUI, looks promising ;) <-QUOTE}

Everything is better in the new product

[light50]

guess i'll wait a bit then and keep the trial till the beta comes out, hope it is stable enough to run on my machine. I like avira so far but i'll be able to compare(sort of) both suites in a few days time

[JerryM]

{QUOTE-> i am trying it now.. both are light and according to av-comparatives have great heuristic detection, what are your opinions when it comes to deleting virii? i also don't know what to do about the firewall, anyone using the avira one? <-QUOTE}

Although I am using just the AV now, I did try the suite during the last beta test. The firewall ran well, and was not overly obtrusive. I liked the suite, but am not trialing it now as I don't want to remove my firewall, LnS.

Regards,
Jerry

[The Hammer]

{QUOTE-> Avira, better detection and protection.:) <-QUOTE}Well check back with you again tomorrow. ;) ;D

[JerryM]

I would always prefer to trial an application when I can. However, if the choice is as the subject, I would prefer Avira suite over NOD + firewall.

My own preferences run toward the better detection rates. So if the Avira suite ran well that would be my preference. I trust AV Comparatives and it is clear that Avira has the better on-demand detection rates, and is close to NOD in the Proactive tests, although it had more FPs.

Each will have to make his own decision based upon the most important characteristics. I like NOD, and would be satisfied with it, but if Avira runs well that would be my own choice.

Best,
Jerry

[light50]

I like both, but currently i have some problems running the avira suite, it is not installing the firewall and mail guard can't start. At first i thought it was because i am running the demo version but on their forums i found there are many with similar problems and can't fix it yet. I will still wait for eset smart security beta and compare both.. in the meantime later today i'll try and search avira's forums for a solution.

With both having good detection rates it all boils down to stability and their respective firewalls.

[bugsy_pal]

NOD for me, plus Comodo firewall - the NOD trial is running like a dream on my main PC (only 2 more days of the trial to go).

I trialled the Avira Suite and also Personal Premium Edition - in both cases, had major problems updating signatures, which made it useless to me. Otherwise, it ran very well. If I were buying, I would not get the suite - I found the firewall rather uninformative.

[light50]

I'll wait for eset suite, from what i'm reading in these forums it seems like its going to be a great suit. Till then i'm running nod32 ssm free and comodo firewall which seems like a nice setup

[trjam]

{QUOTE-> I'll wait for eset suite, from what i'm reading in these forums it seems like its going to be a great suit. Till then i'm running nod32 ssm free and comodo firewall which seems like a nice setup <-QUOTE}
well at least you gave it a shot and not all software is going to be perfect for everyone. But no one can fault you for your honesty.:)

[ankupan]

Hi,

Give a try to

NOD32 + OA2

[trjam]

did once, hated it. My honesty.;D

[light50]

:)

Well i used to use kaspersky, it is my favorite av for sure but it simply doesn't like my laptop for some reason. The av works fine except that sometimes startup takes about 5 mins, but kis slows down my internet badly. I may be willing to live with the delayed start up sometimes, but i can't live with both so i figured i should change.

Having said that when someone asks me for an av i always recommend kaspersky and if one day i trial it again and see it works fine i will use for sure

[trjam]

Oh I think KAV is a great product. I dont care for KIS. Tried Nod a few weeks ago and my web loading had slowed. Actually to the point of it being worse then KIS. Hopfully that will be resolved in the suite. But with Avira, no slowness, which is important to me.

[rdsu]

NOD32 + Firewall...

I'm waiting to take a look at the new ESET Smart Security version... :)

[light50]

ok... it seems that kaspersky was slowing down my internet because i had ad muncher installed. Removed ad muncher and my connection is back to normal

[Metal425]

KAV+Firewall=Happy camper :thumb: ;D

[SoCalReviews]

I recommend the Free Avira PersonalEdition Classic as an great alternative to many who are considering a free AV such as AVG Free, Avast Free, etc. I have not tried any of the licensed versions of Avira. I was considering trying a subscription version of Avira but last year when I sent several emails to them asking some questions about their English language based support and I never got a reply back. I am hoping that their support for U.S. based English based customers has improved because they have a tremendous AV product. I also like the ability to purchase five year license subscriptions instead of the normal one or two year licenses offered by most AV companies (except for Kaspersky which offers a three year license). Many reviews on the Avira suite have been mixed and the AV component is great but supposedly the firewall component of it is going to be improved. The Avira Personal Premium AV product has been rated as having some of the best detection rates similar to the other top rated AV programs such as NOD32 and KAV.

-Right now I would recommend NOD32 + Firewall (ZAP or other top rated firewall). This is the premium security combination but unless you choose a free firewall (ZA Free, Comodo, etc.) the drawback to this option is the cost of multiple licenses. Adding some extra anti-spyware protection would also be recommended.

-Read more comments from the current users who use the Avira suite and if the firewall (configuration and options) in the Avira suite improves then this would become a very good all in one solution. If the advanced firewall portion of a security suite is not a critical component for you then the current Avira suite might be fine for your system.

-Consider the other security suite options such as the future NOD32 Smart Security suite or the new version of ZASS v7 with the KAV engine which is what I also use on my second computer (notebook system).

[light50]

unfortunately.. the avira suite doesn't work well on my system, as a free av it is great, but some components from the suite simply do not run. I like kaspersky, and since i discovered the source of some problems i was having i am willing to keep working with it. Apart from having a great product kaspersky also offers great support, adding new signatures within a new virus within hours, and great forum.

Having a bit of alcohol in my head right now i'm going to sleep...still, i am willing to try the eset smart security suite, so if i'll be able to get my hands on a beta version i will try it out and then decide. Probably i'll go with kaspersky anyway but you know.. i'll give eset a try, either way they are both great products.

[yafay]

it is really a hard decision to make~
both are great. but i think i like nod32 better.

[light50]

I can't wait too long, i'm only having trial avs, and considering the issues with eset's beta and also that kaspersky is working good on my machines i think i'll go with kaspersky. I'll decide when the trial is about to finish.

[ankupan]

If you like Kaspersky than you can buy from http://www.systweak.com/ at very cheap price.


{QUOTE-> I can't wait too long, i'm only having trial avs, and considering the issues with eset's beta and also that kaspersky is working good on my machines i think i'll go with kaspersky. I'll decide when the trial is about to finish. <-QUOTE}

[light50]

{QUOTE-> If you like Kaspersky than you can buy from http://www.systweak.com/ at very cheap price. <-QUOTE}

Bought it, great deal.

Thanks ankupan

[trjam]

Not me, the suite is a more secure combo then Nods lower detection ability and another firewall.

[light50]

Hi trjam,

I bought kaspersky suite, i had the av before and just fell in love with it and i just trust them, their forums are great and really helpful. But i'm also trialling the avira suite, the problem i mentioned before was because i was running the demo version without a trial key and i'm finding it great.

99% i will use kaspersky on my pc and but the avira suite for my laptop since I just like them both and found great help even on the avira forums. I said 99% because i am waiting to have an idea what eset will offer and don't want to rush things for now. When i tried nod there were some things which i didn't like at all so i'm going to see if they have been resolved.

[trjam]

Hey, as long as Avira is on one of your computers. :) You will find web browsing is a lot faster with Avira.::)

[C.S.J]

{QUOTE-> Hey, as long as Avira is on one of your computers. :) You will find web browsing is a lot faster with Avira.::) <-QUOTE}
any evidence of this?

because i think not

[light50]

it does feel a bit faster, but i also think it should, since avira doesn't scan http. Still.. it's not something that should deter someone from using kaspersky

[trjam]

Disagree Chris, hell Avira doesnt scan HTTP, and I am beginning to think it isnt a big deal. Proof? Just my own. Hey, Kaspersky is really great in areas, but I think if you look real hard, you will see others have complained of this. I even think Lodore stated he had to put his in high mode to speed it up.

[lodore]

ye i did have to put webav on highmode to speed up http scanning.
anyway drweb doesnt have http scanning yet its only in beta.
i have tryed the antivir beta suite on windows 2k pro today.
i found a bug.
problem with exit button on right click menu.
lodore

[lu_chin]

Nod32 + Firewall + anti-spam = the newly available Eset Smart Security public beta 1.

:D

[trjam]

Until they iron out some of the bugs, I wouldnt even consider it. I still think Aviras is better.

[HiTech_boy]

{QUOTE-> Until they iron out some of the bugs, I wouldnt even consider it <-QUOTE}

Even though it has been a day only since it was released , the bugs are only minor ones and I prefer it over any other product :thumb:

[trjam]

I would not say firewall issues are minor. But given some time, it is going to be great. But it does need some work, as Eset said upfront.:)

[light50]

You can't compare a beta product with others :)

eset seems like its going to be a light suite with a great av and a firewall, non intrusive while offering good protection.

[C.S.J]

sure but they need to sort out that boot up time, its the worst on the market as it stands now.

sure, you can say beta... but its still been in the making for over a year, probably well over a year, so even for a beta, its not the best.

[Graystoke]

Not to bash Eset, but why didn't they make the configuration of scheduled scans easier. It's basically the same as NOD32 2.7. What's wrong with just entering the time, the day of the week, if weekly, and what drive you want scanned? Every AV I've run does it this way except NOD. I tried several times last night to get a scheduled scan to run, but couldn't. I finally gave up and uninstalled it.

I'm sorry. End of rant.

[huntnyc]

@Graystoke

I am with you on that observation about the ESS UI. I am running the beta Avira suite again and it is so smooth at this point and the interface is clean and nice. Also, I don't like the way the Antispam is so far in ESS. Although Avira should think about integrating theirs, it works fairly well and now training is possible.

Anyway, Avira also not scanning http does not mess with my browsing which I like also.

Gary

[Graystoke]

{QUOTE-> @Graystoke

I am with you on that observation about the ESS UI. I am running the beta Avira suite again and it is so smooth at this point and the interface is clean and nice. Also, I don't like the way the Antispam is so far in ESS. Although Avira should think about integrating theirs, it works fairly well and now training is possible.

Anyway, Avira also not scanning http does not mess with my browsing which I like also.

Gary <-QUOTE}


Yeah huntnyc, I have the beta Avira suite back again also. I had to give the new Eset beta a try just to see what it was like. Hard to beat the ease of use and performance of Avira.

[huntnyc]

{QUOTE-> Yeah huntnyc, I have the beta Avira suite back again also. I had to give the new Eset beta a try just to see what it was like. Hard to beat the ease of use and performance of Avira. <-QUOTE}

Amen to that.

Gary

[Albinoni]

Lets face the truth, NOD32 is prob if not the lightest resource AV out there on the market and to be truthful here its far lighter than KAV or Avira.

[trjam]

Respectfully disagree.

[huntnyc]

I agree with you also trjam.

Gary

[Albinoni]

Disagree with what?

[C.S.J]

he meant there are av's that are lighter on ram and system performance than nod32. ::)

[EliteKiller]

{QUOTE-> Disagree with what? <-QUOTE}
Some of the obsolete and overlapping items in your sig. :o :-*

[Graystoke]

Avira SS is lighter than NOD32+firewall.