Question about Security Suite 3.0 beta

[JimmyD]

I hear that the long awaited 3.0 Security Suite will be available as a public beta on April 2nd.

Question - if we are currently using NOD32, would we have to uninstall it before installing the Security Suite beta?

[tosbsas]

same question here (:-))

Ruben

[Blackspear]

I would suggest that is a very wise thing to do.

Cheers ;D

[HiTech_boy]

{QUOTE-> Question - if we are currently using NOD32, would we have to uninstall it before installing the Security Suite beta? <-QUOTE}

Although I have no information , I think we'll have to uninstall NOD32 since they are different products.Moreover ESET Smart Security will most likely install without needing to reboot , NOD32 wants rebooting . And if ESET Smart Security is installed over NOD32 , it will this time need reboot to remove NOD completely , even though it generally doesn't need restarting :)

[garry326]

Absolutely that uninstall it is a very wise thing to do

[JimmyD]

{QUOTE-> Absolutely that uninstall it is a very wise thing to do <-QUOTE}

Will do. I figured that maybe the security suite would recognize current NOD32 module and use that one instead of the suite's version.

[JeremyWW]

When Beta testing the best approach is to uninstall / reinstall. That applies to released versus Beta, and changing Beta versions. It is a Beta release, so assume there may be conflicts and unexpected problems - we hope not, but in the end testing anything should be as 'clean' as possible, which means taking version conflicts out of the equation from the start.

Jem

P.S I can't wait to get my hands on this Beta... :)

[tosbsas]

me too (:-))

Anyone knows something about pricing

Ruben

[HiTech_boy]

{QUOTE-> Anyone knows something about pricing
<-QUOTE}

Yes , you'll have to wait until the final version is released until there are some prices available :)

[trjam]

Well pricing to me doesnt matter, if they bring to the table what they are capable of. So, the clock is running, and I wish them well. I am sure it is going to be impressive.8)

[garry326]

{QUOTE-> Will do. I figured that maybe the security suite would recognize current NOD32 module and use that one instead of the suite's version. <-QUOTE}


;D Maybe the installer would give you a chance to reserve/update the old version and take it over.

[pvsurfer]

Any clues as to the added modules besides the obvious firewall? ....will it include a HIPS, or does NOD's already excellent heuristics engine preclude the need for a HIPS? :-\

Mod: If this is OT, please move...

[eric_259]

I reformatted so it can remove everything so I can have a clean install of NOD32 on April 2nd :D

[FiSz]

hehe i reformated my hard drive week ago and since then i have no AV or firewall. Im waiting for my new nod32 :D

[JeremyWW]

Be a bu**er if they delay the release guys... ;)

[Big Apple]

You guys are formatting in order to install a new Nod????? There must be something weird going on here at Wilders. Everybody gets all hot and bothered as there's going to be a new beta of a virus scanner........!! I have never seen such bull, but maybe it's just me not understanding such crazy infantile behaviour.
I really hope you all get hit with the worst virus ever in the meantime! Man Oh man.....grow up!

[JeremyWW]

Hey, Big Apple...relax...yes they're infantile...but you know you don't wish 'that' on anyone... ;)

[Big Apple]

No, ofcourse not, but........this makes me shiver, that's all!

[trjam]

{QUOTE-> You guys are formatting in order to install a new Nod????? There must be something weird going on here at Wilders. Everybody gets all hot and bothered as there's going to be a new beta of a virus scanner........!! I have never seen such bull, but maybe it's just me not understanding such crazy infantile behaviour.
I really hope you all get hit with the worst virus ever in the meantime! Man Oh man.....grow up! <-QUOTE}
Hey man, we have been holding a "coming out" party all night waiting on the suite. We closed down the streets, everyone got the day off from work. I am so nervous I have been awake for 2 days. Man, how can you not be excited.::)

[Big Apple]

Sure......... ::) I get excited about other things.

[FiSz]

{QUOTE-> You guys are formatting in order to install a new Nod????? There must be something weird going on here at Wilders. Everybody gets all hot and bothered as there's going to be a new beta of a virus scanner........!! I have never seen such bull, but maybe it's just me not understanding such crazy infantile behaviour.
I really hope you all get hit with the worst virus ever in the meantime! Man Oh man.....grow up! <-QUOTE}

oh please! be serious here :D who formats his HD just to make room for new AV i just said that i had to reinstall my Win becouse of some unpleasant bsods :D and since i found out that nod32 3.0 is coming out soon i just didn't install nod2.7 i don't think that ill catch anything in one week.

[Big Apple]

{QUOTE-> i don't think that ill catch anything in one week. <-QUOTE}

I've heard this so many times before when people didn't see the need for an antivirus program.

[VikingStorm]

{QUOTE-> I've heard this so many times before when people didn't see the need for an antivirus program. <-QUOTE}
I haven't caught anything with KAV for over 4 years on one of my computers, so I don't think it is that unusual if you know what you are doing. Also never reformatted, and runs as fast as when it was new.

[Big Apple]

I mean, it's not wise to use your pc without any AV, unless you unplug from the internet.

[JeremyWW]

Personally, I'm looking forward to making love to my wife tonight...;D

[trjam]

well I am looking forward to trying the new suite out. Wonder if they will release at 12 their time.:)

[JeremyWW]

Saddo...;)

[Big Apple]

Enjoy, but do it the safe way...........;)

[Big Apple]

{QUOTE-> Personally, I'm looking forward to making love to my wife tonight...;D <-QUOTE}

Enjoy, but do it the safe way...........;)

[toby1]

{QUOTE-> Personally, I'm looking forward to making love to my wife tonight...;D <-QUOTE}
JeremyWW................so as far as you're concerned the new Security Suite really will be coming in with a Bang.........;D

[Blackspear]

Ladies and Gentlemen, back to the topic at hand please, this is not a marriage counseling website.

Cheers ;D

[the_sly_dog]

LMAO @ BLACKSPEAR ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[ashishtx]

I haven't seen more excitement than this for an antivirus software. I hope it works as said.

[Legendkiller]

when is the suite supposed to be released?

[HiTech_boy]

Today! ;D

[proactivelover]

it's 2nd april no suite release?

[ankupan]

::) but when ?

{QUOTE-> Today! ;D <-QUOTE}

[trjam]

today is going fast.::)

[Blackspear]

I wouldn't hold my breath, release dates are like chewing gum; very stretchy :blink: ;) ;D

Cheers ;D

[Sjoeii]

Yep

And I believe it is about 4 AM in the US right now

[Legendkiller]

today can sometimes be a very long day....;D ;D

[trjam]

yep, and going to work.

[gamersmile]

Today is supposed to be the longest day in NOD32 fan's life...
it should be 8:00 a.m. in the US now

[abzd55]

5 pm here... no signs of v3... however i have enough patience... :)...*peace*

[ankupan]

they are known for faster updates, but today.......... ::)

[trjam]

even though I am not holding my breath, they really need to come through today. People first waited a year, then the public release at Cebit that it would be today, so we need to just give them the rest of the day.

[Legendkiller]

{QUOTE-> even though I am not holding my breath, they really need to come through today. People first waited a year, then the public release at Cebit that it would be today, so we need to just give them the rest of the day. <-QUOTE}
you are right,will all the time that has taken eset to come-up with v3.....i just hope that its worth the wait...

[Big Apple]

You guys are all f.....up about a piece of software, waiting for the 'deadline'.
Can you imagine how guys on deathrow must feel. >:(

[trjam]

I think Blackspears warned once, about this topic straying.

[the_sly_dog]

I Have failth in eset there av is top notch :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

please eset i cant wait anymore the suspense is killing me :-* :-* :-*

[trjam]

something tells me this may not be happening.>:(

[jmc777]

Patience! ;D

[rothko]

'today' happens at different times around the world - was it today Slovakia time, USA time, who knows. until the last country on earth is done with today, it aint over ;D

[den_zip]

{QUOTE-> 'today' happens at different times around the world - was it today Slovakia time, USA time, who knows. until the last country on earth is done with today, it aint over ;D <-QUOTE}

looks like its a bunch of bullsh*t. No beta today and nothing tomorrow. ~Snip~

[trjam]

well, what bothers me is, Marcos has been here several times today and I know he is busy so that is why I am hopeful. I mean if it wasnt going to happen, then it was know before today and why not just state there is going to be a delay instead of keeping hopes up until the actual day. I know we are just talking software for some, but sports and other venues also have heated followers. So for me, I am heated and hopeful.;)

[rdsu]

People, just wait...

[MaXimus666]

cmooon ESET :(

[NSG001]

Is everyone sure they said April 2nd 2007 :dry:

[pykko]

relax ppl... there are plenty of other important things in this life. :) Go make a sandwich. ;)

[DavidCo]

Sandwich - from the Old English Sandwic, meaning "sand place".

So, there you have it folks

V3 is a sandbox to catch/collect all those nasties8)

[trjam]

{QUOTE-> relax ppl... there are plenty of other important things in this life. :) <-QUOTE}
Says who.:o

[VikingStorm]

Well that the last time there was a beta (2.7) it came out near 3PM CST in the U.S. so that would mean possibly another 6 hours.

[trjam]

that would make sense. If they are using servers in San Diego California, it is only 7:00am their. So, guess I will go get that sandwich.:P

[Link]

I want download link Eset Security suite ?

[pykko]

{QUOTE-> I want download link Eset Security suite ? <-QUOTE}
me too ;D

[mvdu]

I see no announcement, so I assume it's coming out as scheduled later today. Can't wait to try it! But we've waited this long - we can wait a bit more. :)

[MaXimus666]

{QUOTE-> I want download link Eset Security suite ? <-QUOTE}


ROFLMAO :D:D:D

Do you? :o

[DavidCo]

Imminent
;)

[JeremyWW]

{QUOTE-> Imminent
;) <-QUOTE}

Define 'imminent'...

[Najmi]

ok accordin to the latest info that i have the release will be delayed for another 2 weeks or so but thts not sure also

[PnP]

{QUOTE-> ok accordin to the latest info that i have the release will be delayed for another 2 weeks or so <-QUOTE}

lol.. I think thats a bit frustating

[trjam]

I am sure that must be wrong. To wait till the last moment, and state something would be ludicrous from a reliability standpoint as a company. Especially since this was the 2nd Cebit conference, where it was stated one was coming out. Nope, the "Suite" will debut today.:)

[trjam]

See, here (http://www.eset.eu/press_release_cebit_2007) is the proof.:)

[JeremyWW]

{QUOTE-> ok accordin to the latest info that i have the release will be delayed for another 2 weeks or so but thts not sure also <-QUOTE}

What info...??

[Seer]

{QUOTE-> I want download link Eset Security suite ? <-QUOTE}

{QUOTE-> delayed for another 2 weeks or so but thts not sure also <-QUOTE}

Funny thread. And pointless also... Who started this and why? There is no official statement that the beta will be out on April 2nd. Welll, not that I've seen...

[jmc777]

{QUOTE-> There is no official statement that the beta will be out on April 2nd. Welll, not that I've seen... <-QUOTE}

http://www.eset.eu/press_release_cebit_2007

[Robert Johnson]

Actually, the press release says nothing about the software being released today....

It says April 2nd by the latest, so could have been released on any day between 13/3/07 and today.

[VikingStorm]

{QUOTE-> Actually, the press release says nothing about the software being released today....

It says April 2nd by the latest. <-QUOTE}
.. and today is the last day of that the latest target date....

[britchey]

Usually the installation routines are the last things to go through QA and it doesn't take much to hold up a release when installations don't work right. I would rather wait than have a setup that doesn't install correctly, or worse, corrupts my system.

[doctor IT]

Until the 3rd version of antivirus is released, it seems that the actual version has failed, after many years of success, a VB100 certification. :(

[trjam]

{QUOTE-> Usually the installation routines are the last things to go through QA and it doesn't take much to hold up a release when installations don't work right. I would rather wait than have a setup that doesn't install correctly, or worse, corrupts my system. <-QUOTE}
And how long might take.:-\ It will be today, they all said it. Go back through old posts.

[JeremyWW]

{QUOTE-> Until the 3rd version of antivirus is released, it seems that the actual version has failed, after many years of success, a VB100 certification. :( <-QUOTE}

You should either check the facts thoroughly before posting or, if you are a 'stirrer', let the others here be reassured - the 'fail' was specifically on 'Novell SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10'. This was not a Windows test, where most of are I suspect.

[HiTech_boy]

Well , ESET Europe site says the BETA will be out until April 2nd 2007.It is unofficial information that the BETA will be delayed.I hope it isn't true ;)

[den_zip]

{QUOTE-> Usually the installation routines are the last things to go through QA and it doesn't take much to hold up a release when installations don't work right. I would rather wait than have a setup that doesn't install correctly, or worse, corrupts my system. <-QUOTE}

Me too, but eset anounced the 2nd apr by themselves, no one forced them to do this. that so stupid to play such games with consumers. we can get back to drweb then....

[doctor IT]

{QUOTE-> You should either check the facts thoroughly before posting or, if you are a 'stirrer', let the others here be reassured - the 'fail' was specifically on 'Novell SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10'. This was not a Windows test, where most of are I suspect. <-QUOTE}

OK :) When I read on their site about the product, I clearly remember that it was written something about 47 passed tests. I don't think they was refering only to the Windows tests, but Linux, Netware too.

[britchey]

{QUOTE-> And how long might take.:-\ It will be today, they all said it. Go back through old posts. <-QUOTE}


Yeah, I know. My company is releasing software (general release, no beta) today too and I am patiently waiting as they work out the nitpicking issues in the last minute. It is frustrating but better to get it right than hold to deadlines (in my opinion).

[den_zip]

{QUOTE-> ....It is unofficial information that the BETA will be delayed.I hope it isn't true ;) <-QUOTE}

Pretty soon this information will become official without esset approval just wait a couple of hours

[trjam]

well at this point, Eset has not done anything wrong and have time for this to come through. My only issue would be now to delay it, and make us look dumb for waving the flag until the last moment. Avira came through both times right on schedule with thier betas. I hold licenses for both and have patiently waited for today so I could install the beta on my other PC.Now tommorow, would make it a different story. Keep the faith folks.

[JeremyWW]

I have e-mailed Eset Europe asking for an explanation, re: the press release and why they are keeping us waiting. If I get a response, you can be sure I'll post it here.

[gerardwil]

{QUOTE-> I have e-mailed Eset Europe asking for an explanation, re: the press release and why they are keeping us waiting. If I get a response, you can be sure I'll post it here. <-QUOTE}

Yes please do because you make me laugh ::)

Gerard

[trjam]

well this sucks. I just called their San Diego office and after holding awhile, the young lady came back and said that upper support said it will be in the next FEW weeks and for me to keep checking their website in the beta section and when it is ready their will be a click on link. Yeah right Marcos, like you couldnt have just told us today when you were here one of your 65 times. Glad I bought that 3 year Kaspersky license.>:(

[JeremyWW]

{QUOTE-> Yes please do because you make me laugh ::)

Gerard <-QUOTE}

And just why do I make you laugh? If you haven't got anything remotely helpful to post here, kindly p*ss off.

[ronjor]

Okay everyone, let's tone it down in this thread.

[The Hammer]

{QUOTE-> You guys are all f.....up about a piece of software, waiting for the 'deadline'.
Can you imagine how guys on deathrow must feel. >:( <-QUOTE}They wouldn't be in favour of punctuality. :P ;) ;D

[den_zip]

{QUOTE-> Okay everyone, let's tone it down in this thread. <-QUOTE}

I feel like being cheated

[ugly]

{QUOTE-> And just why do I make you laugh? <-QUOTE}

Because you will get the same answer they give you in this thread : 188817

[Edwin024]

The delay is quite absurd. Eset has been using the beta for months in their own offices. So I guess that that is enough to sort out the errors and fix them so that we could get it before the end of the second of April, as stated in the Eset press release....

Eset is a company with a problem: over and over again it makes the mistake to not take the costumor serious. And this one is another example.

[iMigs]

{QUOTE-> I feel like being cheated <-QUOTE}

Come on and grow up please! Try to get some common sense all of you >:(

Should Eset release software wich is not ready for beta release? Nooo they should not because otherwise most peeps here would complain about the bugs and crap Eset brought us.

Let the Eset team cook and wait till it's served ;D

[AshG]

Marcos, there have been reports from the San Diego office that the download of NOD32 3.0 scheduled for today may have been pushed back by a few weeks. Also, the time that many people thought the download would be posted by has also passed.

Has there been an issue that might cause a delay, or was there some accidentally incorrect information posted previously regarding the April 2 beta date?

[jmc777]

{QUOTE->

Let the Eset team cook and wait till it's served ;D <-QUOTE}


It's been in the over for a year now; people are getting hungry! :P




{QUOTE-> Also, thge time that many people thought the download would be posted by has also passed.
<-QUOTE}

The 2nd of April isn't over yet, so they still have time.

[MNKid]

{QUOTE-> I reformatted so it can remove everything so I can have a clean install of NOD32 on April 2nd :D <-QUOTE}

What now?

I don't mind waiting, as I would rather have them get it right. My concern, if a delay is in order, is the inaccuracy with Eset's own press release of 13 April 2007.

People have every right to be perturbed, so I see no reason to verbally scold those who are complaining. If you say you're going to do something, then do it! Otherwise, INFORM us of a change in plans.

Intergrity in terms of one's word is something that still matters to some of us. Eset would do well not to jerk their customers around. All I want is an updated release date or at least a general time frame.

MNKid

[petersteiner]

Calm down guys. The program will be ready when it's ready. The old 2.7 still works, doesn't it? I for one am happy as a clam with the current version and want them to release v3 when they feel it's ok for public use. If it takes another 6 months, so be it.

"When will it be ready?" - "When it's ready."

[eric_259]

{QUOTE-> The 2nd of April isn't over yet, so they still have time. <-QUOTE}

That is true... But I want it NOW :P

Hehe.

[eric_259]

{QUOTE-> What now?

I don't mind waiting, as I would rather have them get it right. My concern, if a delay is in order, is the inaccuracy with Eset's own press release of 13 April 2007.

People have every right to be perturbed, so I see no reason to verbally scold those who are complaining. If you say you're going to do something, then do it! Otherwise, INFORM us of a change in plans.

MNKid <-QUOTE}

Yes it was a bad idea for me to have done that (reformat my computer). Now I am waiting for this antivirus, but while I am waiting for it my computer lays here unprotected.

[eric_259]

{QUOTE-> "When will it be ready?" - "When it's ready." <-QUOTE}

Yes, but it is not right to give us a release date and not release it on that date either. But as someone else said, it is still April 2nd, they didn't leave us a specific time so.. we may still have some time. The day DOES end at 12:00 (hmm or is it 11:59:99)

[petersteiner]

True, April 2nd isn't over yet. But then it's no good sign that here isn't an official word from Eset.

Another program I actually cared about (TV software) was said to come out to the Cebit in a new version but the programmers didn't make it. Since the first day of the Cebit all programmers went into total hiding on their forum. Not one posting since then and no new version. Before that they were all very communicative and cared a lot about the users.

[iMigs]

{QUOTE-> Yes it was a bad idea for me to have done that (reformat my computer). Now I am waiting for this antivirus, but while I am waiting for it my computer lays here unprotected. <-QUOTE}
That's the worst excuses I heard in years :-X

Where talking here about beta software! Do you really thought you would be safe using beta software? Beta software is for testing not for general daily usage. Beta software can have flaws wich also mean that it can corrupt data, may contain security issues and/or bugs, etc.

If you want to beta test then you should have chosen another AV. Kaspersky does alot of beta testing lately so if youre eager to willing to put youre fresh installation to jeopardy then go over there.

[jmc777]

{QUOTE-> True, April 2nd isn't over yet. But then it's no good sign that here isn't an official word from Eset. <-QUOTE}


I think everyone should start sharpening their pitchforks, y'know......just in case. :shifty:

[eric_259]

Yes, Kaspersky may be good, but NOD32 is even better now with their ThreatSense® engine. Also, Kaspersky will kill your CPU. When I did have Kaspersky my CPU was in the 95-100% but when I uninstalled it my CPU dropped down to the 0-10%. When I installed NOD32 I felt no difference from when I had no antivirus to NOD32. From what rumors are saying, Kaspersky is infected. I don't know if 3.0 is comming out today, but from what people were saying about 1 year ago, maybe more, lets start this war again, where the hell is 3.0 ESET? :'( >:(

[den_zip]

{QUOTE-> Should Eset release software wich is not ready for beta release? Nooo they should not because otherwise most peeps here would complain about the bugs and crap Eset brought us.
<-QUOTE}

Basically thats all betas are realesed for ... for "peeps" complains...

[eric_259]

{QUOTE-> Basically thats all betas are realesed for ... for "peeps" complains... <-QUOTE}

If "peeps" didn't complain, then we would be screwed. We need these "peeps" to complain so we can fix problems.

[trjam]

I am telling you folks, it aint going to happen today. We will have to wait. And that part doesnt bother me that much, because I do want it right. But if it we going to public beta today, beta remember, and it isnt ready, well it must be something substantial. But my biggest issue is ever since Cebit, most of us assumed April 2 was the day. And if just one Eset rep had come here today and just publically said it isnt quite ready and we are going to hold off a little longer to make sure it is right, well, lets just say, I could not have argued with their honesty. But to not even comment, well that is really impolite and a tad disrespectful, especially to your customers. Oh well, we will live to talk about the suite another day. I mean, how hard can it be to integrate Antihacker into a suite.::)

[iMigs]

{QUOTE-> Yes, Kaspersky may be good, but NOD32 is even better now with their ThreatSense® engine. Also, Kaspersky will kill your CPU. When I did have Kaspersky my CPU was in the 95-100% but when I uninstalled it my CPU dropped down to the 0-10%. When I installed NOD32 I felt no difference from when I had no antivirus to NOD32. From what rumors are saying, Kaspersky is infected. I don't know if 3.0 is comming out today, but from what people were saying about 1 year ago, maybe more, lets start this war again, where the hell is 3.0 ESET? :'( >:( <-QUOTE}
Lol! youre so funny ;D

Did you even read what I was saying? Where talking here about a beta release wich also means "it could" have bugs like high cpu usage, corrupt data..etc etc.
I feel sorry for you but you don't even deserve to be beta tester. If you don't know anything beta software and talking crap about infected Kaspersy versions you should wait for the final release of NOD32 3.0.

Oh and about the "complain peeps" thing:
Beta's are ment for public release, so if Eset think it's not ready for a public release then it's not ready. If it contains serious flaws you wouldn't be happy testing it would you?

[eric_259]

Yeah. I think this is bad for ESET's reputation though. How many false release dates was there for 3.0. I believe this is the second major release date from about a year ago. But we can always keep in mind... April 2nd isn't over.

[eric_259]

{QUOTE-> Lol! youre so funny ;D

Did you even read what I was saying? Where talking here about a beta releasewich also means "it could" have bugs like high cpu usage, corrupt data..etc etc.
I feel sorry for you but you don't even deserve to be beta tester. If you don't know anything beta software and talking crap about infected Kaspersy versions you should wait for the final release of NOD32 3.0. <-QUOTE}

Yes but if a Kaspersky LEGIT has high CPU rate.. Imagine a non-legit.. My computer would be at a 100% CPU rate. I have beta tested many NOD32's and none of them has even touched my computer with any fake installers and such.

[NAMOR]

{QUOTE-> I am telling you folks, it aint going to happen today. We will have to wait. And that part doesnt bother me that much, because I do want it right. But if it we going to public beta today, beta remember, and it isnt ready, well it must be something substantial. But my biggest issue is ever since Cebit, most of us assumed April 2 was the day. And if just one Eset rep had come here today and just publically said it isnt quite ready and we are going to hold off a little longer to make sure it is right, well, lets just say, I could not have argued with their honesty. But to not even comment, well that is really impolite and a tad disrespectful, especially to your customers. Oh well, we will live to talk about the suite another day. I mean, how hard can it be to integrate Antihacker into a suite.::) <-QUOTE}

This is why I thought it was a mistake for them to list a possible release date for the beta.

[eric_259]

{QUOTE-> This is why I thought it was a mistake for them to list a possible release date for the beta. <-QUOTE}

Yes, they just make us hyper because they did such a good job on their new security, but when the day comes we are ripping our hair out in disgrace at ESET because the release date was wrong. I don't know but maybe most of us would be better off not knowing about 3.0 until they actually were 100% sure they were releasing it instead of making us wait about 2 years...

[trjam]

Whats done is done. Hopefully they will learn something from it and be a better company. Lets just move on.

Last post on this subject.

[Blackcat]

{QUOTE-> Where talking here about beta software! Do you really thought you would be safe using beta software? Beta software is for testing not for general daily usage. If you want to beta test then you should have chosen another AV. <-QUOTE}
I have tested a lot of beta-software and IMHO, previous NOD betas have been very stable compared to other AVs I could mention.

However, as with all beta programs, better to test it only if you have an Image/Snapshot you can revert back to in case of any problems.

I am looking forward to trying out the new beta whenever it arrives. Most users would I believe prefer a stable beta so if the predicted release date is missed then we should not really complain. It's called Quality Control.

[iMigs]

{QUOTE-> Yes but if a Kaspersky LEGIT has high CPU rate.. Imagine a non-legit.. My computer would be at a 100% CPU rate. I have beta tested many NOD32's and none of them has even touched my computer with any fake installers and such. <-QUOTE}

Eset is known for their minor flaws in their beta software releases. So if their not releasing it today then it's not ready.

Offtopic:
I am very curious to know wich version of kaspersky you had installed and for how long. Recent stable versions have no high cpu usage.

[MNKid]

{QUOTE-> Whats done is done. Hopefully they will learn something from it and be a better company. Lets just move on.

Last post on this subject. <-QUOTE}

Well said. I am disappointed, but life goes on.

[eric_259]

{QUOTE-> NOD32 (http://www.nod32.com/) -- Hey, my CPU usage is under 90%! Who uninstalled KAV? <-QUOTE}

I guess I'm not the only one with a 90% CPU rate with KAV..

[eric_259]

{QUOTE-> Eset is known for their minor flaws in their beta software releases. So if their not releasing it today then it's not ready. <-QUOTE}

Yes but if it is not ready, why do they lie and tell us it would be ready a year ago and do the same thing a year later. Now some people will think 2008 they will be saying the same thing and no one would care because they will say "its the same old bullcrap every year."

[n8chavez]

{QUOTE-> I am looking forward to trying out the new beta whenever it arrives. Most users would I believe prefer a stable beta so if the predicted release date is missed then we should not really complain. It's called Quality Control. <-QUOTE}

Enough is enough. I've tried to sit back and do nothing, reading all this comments. I just started to twitch every time I read that "it's ready when it's ready" crap. This is a complete lack of respect for the customer on ESET's part...again! ESET can and and specifically said 4/2/2007 was the release date for the beta version of the v3 suite, did they not. That was the information given in a press release. Normally it would be acceptable for a company to miss a target date. But in this case it is not. We have been waiting for v3 for over a year; cebrit 2006. (oh how people forget) I even went out and bought a new licence. And this is how ESET treats it's customers. Yet another example of how they spit in our faces. If Marcos has been on why has he not said anything. ESET like to toy with people I guess. Again the lack of information in unacceptable. It might come out today, as it is still 4/2, but the fact that they have not squashed these rumors or released it so close to the end of the day says they do not care about their customers, which is what I've been saying for years. ESET=Bad NOD=Great. It's a shame one cannot exist without the other.

[Littlemutt]

Anyone remember the 'Vaporware of the Year' awards that came about shortly after computing started becoming popular?

V3 is the 2006/2007 top Candidate for the 'VaporWare of the Year' !

[eric_259]

{QUOTE-> Enough is enough. I've tried to sit back and do nothing, reading all this comments. I just started to teitch every time I read that "it's ready when it's ready" crap. This is a complete lack of respect for the customer on ESET's part...again! ESET can and and specifically said 4/2/2007 was the release date for the beta version of the v3 suite, did they not. That was the information given in a press release. Normally it would be acceptable for a company to miss a target date. But in this case it is not. We have been waiting for v3 for over a year; cebrit 2006. (oh how people forget) I even went out and bought a new licence. And this is how ESET treats it's customers. Yet another example of how they spit in our faces. If Marcos has been on why has he not said anything. ESET like to toy with people I guess. Again the lack of information in unacceptable. It might come out today, as it is still 4/2, but the fact that they have not squashed these rumors or released it so close to the end of the day says they do not care about their customers, which is what I've been saying for years. ESET=Bad NOD=Great. It's a shame one cannot exist without the other. <-QUOTE}

That is a good way to put it.. Too bad a more respectful company couldn't run ESET. Or at least ESET can actually hold their mouths shut until they are 100% sure they are ready to release it. I understand a month, I understand 1 false date, but its been a year, plus its the second time they have given us a false release date.. Enough is enough ESET, why don't you keep your mouths shut until the day it is out without saying a word, surprises are nice. I think it would be a lot better if we got "NOD32 3.0 would not be released until further notice" and not give us a release date, and then one random date "NOD32 3.0 is released." This is really bullcrap. I wouldn't be surprised if 2008 summer they release a date for it and it doesn't come out (again).

Also an addition I would like to add;

{QUOTE-> I for one am not going to continually bend over while they screw over their customers. <-QUOTE}
A lot of people spent money on new licenses thinking they should renew them for todays date, and this is how they treat us. What n8chavez said, they are screwing over us customers. For the people that DID spend money for todays date, and we got this, no 3.0, the least they should do is give the license free or give us our money back. (Unless they wanted to stick with 2.7 and needed to renew that.)

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> That is a good way to put it.. Too bad a more respectful company couldn't run ESET. Or at least ESET can actually hold their mouths shut until they are 100% sure they are ready to release it. I understand a month, I understand 1 false date, but its been a year, plus its the second time they have given us a false release date.. Enough is enough ESET, why don't you keep your mouths shut until the day it is out without saying a word, surprises are nice. I think it would be a lot better if we got "NOD32 3.0 would not be released until further notice" and not give us a release date, and then one random date "NOD32 3.0 is released." This is really bullcrap. I wouldn't be surprised if 2008 summer they release a date for it and it doesn't come out (again).

Also an addition I would like to add;


A lot of people spent money on new licenses thinking they should renew them for todays date, and this is how they treat us. What n8chavez said, they are screwing over us customers. For the people that DID spend money for todays date, and we got this, no 3.0, the least they should do is give the license free or give us our money back. (Unless they wanted to stick with 2.7 and needed to renew that.) <-QUOTE}
The thread will get locked with all these comments about Eset....the fact is that Eset is restless, and like to spin off all kinds of things without being sure that they can actually realize it. Eset has lied to their customers many times in this regard. I'm beginning to think that this is a marketing trick from Eset. By the controlled release of information about a new version, Eset can keep customers happy and enthusiastic about their product, hence leading to more sales, more renewals and preventing loss of consumer dissatisfaction.

I've seen more than enough of my share of sleazy marketing from Eset, especially in that thread about AntiVir's "crypt" detections. All I will say is that such tactics can backfire, and when they do, the results will be horrible. I suggest Eset to start thinking wisely and have foresight, before they do something that will alienate all their consumers and eventually lead to their downfall.

[eric_259]

Yes, the problem is NOD32 is just about best of the best, and if ESET does make us fall, we don't have a Anti-Virus as good as NOD32 :( I guess at this part we have to wait, kiss ESETs reer end, or possibly risk our protection and go lower.

[trjam]

{QUOTE->
I've seen more than enough of my share of sleazy marketing from Eset, especially in that thread about AntiVir's "crypt" detections. All I will say is that such tactics can backfire, and when they do, the results will be horrible. <-QUOTE}
I think they just did.8)

[den_zip]

In all this crap going on with ESET i see hairy and long Kaspersky hand.

Why do u all guys love Kasper so much??
In midlle 90th this firm slit in 2 - those who were bright and smart founded drweb, as to the rest of others - they took another path, learnt how to make products look fancy and how to promote it. so it is true.

they used to work together and now both AV detects each other as viruses. and now for instance in russia drweb considered a better av than kasper although cost the same
dont be fools keep kasper away from your machine...

[eric_259]

We are trying to keep Kaspersky away from our machine, but it seems like ESET and NOD32 wants us to go to Kaspersky with no update, or another false release date...

[light50]

{QUOTE-> In all this crap going on with ESET i see hairy and long Kaspersky hand.

Why do u all guys love Kasper so much??
In midlle 90th this firm slit in 2 - those who were bright and smart founded drweb, as to the rest of others - they took another path, learnt how to make products look fancy and how to promote it. so it is true.

they used to work together and now both AV detects each other as viruses. and now for instance in russia drweb considered a better av than kasper although cost the same
dont be fools keep kasper away from your machine... <-QUOTE}

Kaspersky does its job well, it's not just good marketing but also a good product, saying dr web is good is one thing, but saying kaspersky is not is another. If kaspersky was as bad as you say it wouldn't be recommended so much in these forums.

[NAMOR]

{QUOTE-> Enough is enough. I've tried to sit back and do nothing, reading all this comments. I just started to twitch every time I read that "it's ready when it's ready" crap. This is a complete lack of respect for the customer on ESET's part...again! ESET can and and specifically said 4/2/2007 was the release date for the beta version of the v3 suite, did they not. That was the information given in a press release. Normally it would be acceptable for a company to miss a target date. But in this case it is not. We have been waiting for v3 for over a year; cebrit 2006. (oh how people forget) I even went out and bought a new licence. And this is how ESET treats it's customers. Yet another example of how they spit in our faces. If Marcos has been on why has he not said anything. ESET like to toy with people I guess. Again the lack of information in unacceptable. It might come out today, as it is still 4/2, but the fact that they have not squashed these rumors or released it so close to the end of the day says they do not care about their customers, which is what I've been saying for years. ESET=Bad NOD=Great. It's a shame one cannot exist without the other. <-QUOTE}


This is why I think it was a mistake for them to have a possible release date. They should have kept silent like F-prot. ;D

[trjam]

that ill do Pig, that ill do. Lets remember, the shoe can turn very quick in this area, so the time to move on, has arisen.

[AshG]

{QUOTE-> This is why I think it was a mistake for them to have a possible release date. <-QUOTE}

That's the thing - I want to focus on "possible". The language on their own release page implies a definite date- 2 April, 2007. (Follow this (http://www.eset.eu/press_release_cebit_2007), it's the last paragraph.).

Bah, I digress... My license doesn't run out until July, and if I have the urge to play with another vendor's AV product I'll just whip out VMWare and a backup image. I haven't seen the big red eye in almost a year anyway.

[MNKid]

What do you make of this?

When on eset.com, I would click "Download". On that page there used to be a link on the left called "Beta". It was there earlier today. But now it is gone.

When googling "Eset Beta", I can get this link:
www.eset.com/download/beta.php

I know the beta page said "no current beta programs" or something to that effect this afternoon, but now it only says "ESET's Early Access Program"

Do you think something could still be happening?

I see the Europe beta page is still the same as it has been, with just the mobile edition listed.

Probably nothing. Maybe they simply removed the link to the beta page if folks are writing or calling in and complaining.

MNKid

[bugsy_pal]

It's poor form to go announcing something for a set date via big press releases, and then not deliver, with no comment of feedback as to how long the delay will be, or why.

I can see there are many dissappointed folks here... I for one was almost ready to shell out for a NOD license (irrespective of beta suite coming out) having been impressed with the trial of NOD on my machine. However, cutomer service is not their strong suit, and I am having second thoughts...

[Donald®]

April 1 is The Fool's Day and now April 2 is The ESET Hoax's Day. :thumbd:

Wait guys, maybe next Cebit 2008 more v.3 screenshots. ;D

[X3ro]

{QUOTE-> It's poor form to go announcing something for a set date via big press releases, and then not deliver, with no comment of feedback as to how long the delay will be, or why.

I can see there are many dissappointed folks here... I for one was almost ready to shell out for a NOD license (irrespective of beta suite coming out) having been impressed with the trial of NOD on my machine. However, cutomer service is not their strong suit, and I am having second thoughts... <-QUOTE}

I thought sometimes here (in these forums) we can see comments fom the ESET' programmers or other their people? Why they can't simply tell us what is all about? :-\

PS. the "beta" page on www.eset.com dissapear ?!

[blaine]

{QUOTE-> It's poor form to go announcing something for a set date via big press releases, and then not deliver, with no comment of feedback as to how long the delay will be, or why.

I can see there are many dissappointed folks here... I for one was almost ready to shell out for a NOD license (irrespective of beta suite coming out) having been impressed with the trial of NOD on my machine. However, cutomer service is not their strong suit, and I am having second thoughts... <-QUOTE}

Exactly, its so sad to see such a great product from a company that has such poor customer service.

[VikingStorm]

So is all we have is that it may be possibly a "few weeks" from the San Diego office?

[Blackspear]

{QUOTE-> ...that has such poor customer service. <-QUOTE}I can not see this at all, I think the support is outstanding, please explain how this is a support issue? It simply isn't, it is a new product release, in fact it isn't even that, it is a Public Beta release, to which someone should not have announced a release date, period; in doing so ESET backed themselves into a corner.

Blackspear.

[blaine]

{QUOTE-> I can not see this at all, I think the support is outstanding, please explain how this is a support issue? It simply isn't, it is a new product release, in fact it isn't even that, it is a Public Beta release, to which someone should not have announced a release date, period; in doing so ESET backed themselves into a corner.

Blackspear. <-QUOTE}

Because it's like they don't care about us Blackspear. No-one bothered to tell us there was a delay. These forums could be used so greatly to inform us about new and exciting things. IIRC we didn't even find out about the April 2nd thing from anyone at Eset on Wilders. Instead, it was found on an Eset website. Again, we were not even informed about the beta I think. And, of course, we're not informed about the delay. >:(

It looks like we'd get some exclusive info or something for being Eset enthusiasts. But, instead, we're treated less than the general public, when we could have such a close relationship to the company.

I am really not bothered about the delay, (but I'm really looking forward to 3.0) it's just the fact that we're left in the dark throughout most of this.

[Blackspear]

{QUOTE-> Because it's like they don't care about us Blackspear. No-one bothered to tell us there was a delay. <-QUOTE}I understand in regards to communication they need to pull up their socks and not keep this forum in the dark like mushrooms. I think ESET needs to arrive at the understanding that communication is a good thing, it makes for very happy customers, and I believe that over time they will appreciate and improve in this area... ;) ;D

Cheers ;D

[dbrisendine]

After following this for what has been months now, I would say they could not be much worse (communication wise).:thumbd:

[Firecat]

Honestly speaking, I think from now on, everytime Eset announces a date or an imminent release for a new beta or release version of NOD32, it should be regarded as a hoax. And all thread titles on such announcements should have the "Hoax disclaimer".

Really, Eset has to improve itself a lot, not just in communication, but in a lot of other things.

[Big Apple]

Here we go........all the nervous screamers from yesterday are either sick in bed or start bashing Eset for not releasing the Beta on april 2. All wound up for nothing! Hope you all take an aspirine and relax now. Have fun waiting for a few days, hope everybody survives! It'll be hard, I know......;D

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> Here we go........all the nervous screamers from yesterday are either sick in bed or start bashing Eset for not releasing the Beta on april 2. All wound up for nothing! Hope you all take an aspirine and relax now. Have fun waiting for a few days, hope everybody survives! It'll be hard, I know......;D <-QUOTE}
The problem is not about the April 2 thing, but rather about the fact that Eset has done this several times, i.e. they announced an exact release date and did not deliver. Wouldn't it be better for everyone if they just said "expected to be released around April 2 period" instead of having a huge press release saying "To be released on April 2"? :)

[HiTech_boy]

{QUOTE-> The problem is not about the April 2 thing, but rather about the fact that Eset has done this several times, i.e. they announced an exact release date and did not deliver <-QUOTE}

That's why I have said it numerous times - YOU users are very impatient people , what is wrong with the current version NOD32 2.7 ?! Nothing .

Yes , we are all impatient and want to try something even better than NOD32 (if possible ;D ,of course) but we should be patient . You have to understand that we can't have BETA full of bugs or with something else completely rough and unsuitable for all people . There will be many people who will put the BETA version on the so-called productive machines and if it is unstable producing the blue screen of death or something else (which many other beta products of other vendores do!) , what will happen . Bad image and bad words against ESET .

I do believe ESET should not mention exact release date and share such details because everything can happen but you (people) can't wait enough , as long as it should be . You have to understand that ESET do not keep the BETA for themselves , they also want it published as early as possible . :thumb:

[beethoven]

I find it amazing to follow this thread and the abuse being heaped on Eset. You kind of get the idea that we have all paid hundreds of dollars already for the new software that is not being provided to us and now have to continue using an inefficient and outdated program incapable of protecting us ??? ??? ???

I also find it interesting to see that quite a few of the posters being most upset have been infrequent posters at best and cannot quite help the feeling that someone else being a regular poster here suddenly has issues with Eset that may have nothing to do with the delay.

I for one don't care if the Beta is coming out a week earlier or later as long as my current version is doing its job. Let them finish the job and chill 8)

[trjam]

{QUOTE-> I find it amazing to follow this thread and the abuse being heaped on Eset. You kind of get the idea that we have all paid hundreds of dollars already for the new software that is not being provided to us and now have to continue using an inefficient and outdated program incapable of protecting us ??? ??? ???

I also find it interesting to see that quite a few of the posters being most upset have been infrequent posters at best and cannot quite help the feeling that someone else being a regular poster here suddenly has issues with Eset that may have nothing to do with the delay.

I for one don't care if the Beta is coming out a week earlier or later as long as my current version is doing its job. Let them finish the job and chill 8) <-QUOTE}
I will drink to that.:)

[ankupan]

I am agree with you.


{QUOTE-> ........ I for one don't care if the Beta is coming out a week earlier or later as long as my current version is doing its job. Let them finish the job and chill 8) <-QUOTE}

[twl845]

Hence my signature. 8)

[Capp]

I agree wholeheartedly as well.

Which is why I posted my long rant about the same thing in the sticky thread :)

People need to calm down and relax a little bit. 8)

[den_zip]

most of us in this thread dont give a crap about one week or another late.

I do care about ... should I rely on Eset software tomorow if Eset staff bevaviour today is so unrelyable

[trjam]

Nod is very reliable. What happened yesterday happened. Each person has the choice in the future as to how it may or may not, dictate your decisions. But lets keep this seperate and in focus people. The mixup was with the company, which has no connection, to the core product and its capibilities.

[Capp]

{QUOTE-> most of us in this thread dont give a crap about one week or another late.

I do care about ... should I rely on Eset software tomorow if Eset staff bevaviour today is so unrelyable <-QUOTE}

As I mentioned in another thread, I trust my machines with Eset's Beta more than I do other companies final versions.

I have no doubt that when everything is said and done, this suite is going to change the way security software is looked at...again.

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> I do believe ESET should not mention exact release date and share such details because everything can happen but you (people) can't wait enough , as long as it should be . You have to understand that ESET do not keep the BETA for themselves , they also want it published as early as possible . <-QUOTE}

And this is exactly what I want to convey! It isn't good for Eset, regardless of whether they are right or wrong, if they do this, because by doing this they automatically create a small measure of dissatisfaction among some customers. This has been my point all along. :)

[eric_259]

At least we have a response from ESET now. :D

[C.S.J]

cebit 2006 they mention the suite, tut tut... very bad if its gonna be more than a year off.

cebit 2007 they give a date and it passes with no product....again tut tut.

just embarressing theirselfs all the time, and cebit is not a small place to go and make promises, and fail them.

[trjam]

I agree, the thing now is they say the suite may be a beta nightmare when released. Why? And just what did they show at Cebit. Damn, I wanted this to work for them. And it still may.

[Doc Serenity]

Unfortunately, it appears that there may be a bunch of obsessive/compulsives suffering a bit.
In the end I think we'll all be pretty happy.
Doc

[trjam]

Not suffering anymore Doc, and in the end, I hope you are right. cheers:)

[proactivelover]

now anybody know beta release date

[JimmyD]

{QUOTE-> now anybody know beta release date <-QUOTE}

Yeah....when it's ready. There is one thing that Eset has learned this week and that is NEVER give a release date again.

[jmc777]

{QUOTE-> now anybody know beta release date <-QUOTE}


{QUOTE-> ...we are currently running a bit behind schedule for the public beta test release of ESET Smart Security but expect to have it available in a few days. <-QUOTE}

That post was made on the 3rd of April.

[HiTech_boy]

{QUOTE-> now anybody know beta release date <-QUOTE}

Already released

[mrtwolman]

{QUOTE-> Already released <-QUOTE}

Take a look at the pinned thread.

[Triple Helix]

{QUOTE-> Take a look at the pinned thread. <-QUOTE}

That's not much of a Statement! LOL ;D

TH

[Blackspear]

{QUOTE-> That's not much of a Statement! LOL ;DTH <-QUOTE}One from and ESET Moderator will be forthcoming shortly.

Cheers ;D

[Triple Helix]

{QUOTE-> One from and ESET Moderator will be forthcoming shortly.

Cheers ;D <-QUOTE}

Understood! Thanks! ;)

TH

[marty56]

I have a dual boot Windows Vista/XP system both with NOD32 installed on them. I installed Security Suite 3.0 beta on the XP partition with no problem (Beta requires unistall of NOD32 first).

Tried to do the same thing on the Vista side and even though I uninstalled NOD32 first, Security Suite 3.0 beta sayes it wont install because an older version of NOD32 is present on the system.

I love NOD32 and havent found a firewall for it yet (most are in beta or bundled with an AV program as well).

I know the software is in beta but there really isn't any excuse for install problems like this and even if it is a Vista issue, it makes we wonder if anyone at EST atcually tried to install the Beta on Vista.

[HiTech_boy]

@ marty56

For the present version of NOD , most likely its uninstallation got corrupted . To fix it , goto ESET's web-site and downoad the latest version of NOD for Vista , direct link for Vista's Standart version here:
http://www.eset.com/download/balance.php?dir=/download/win/v2st/ndntenst.exe

Install it again and this will do a repair installation of NOD . Reboot when prompted to do so. After you reboot , you'll have NOD installed again . Now visit Add/Remove programs in Control Panel->find NOD32 and uninstall it . Reboot when prompted . After this restart , goto C:\Program files\ and manually delete the folder ESET

Now , you can temporary disable UAC and install ESET Smart Security Beta1

[marty56]

UAC was the install problem. You would think I would turn it off first before the intsall. My Bad.