Free AV and firewall

[meneer]

This press report (http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/11-18-2003/0002060614&EDATE=)mentions that CA in collaboration with Microsoft are offering free anti-virus and firewall tooling to Windows users. If you looking for a new license, here you go :)

[Firefighter]

To everyone from Firefighter!

I've heard that eTrust EZ firewall is ZA's product! So is that the free one or that better one?

Secondly, is that av Inoculate, VET or some other engined one?


"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best regards,
Firefighter!

[tahoma]

i just tried this. the firewall is definately zonealarm. other than that i dont know, cos after rebooting i only got bluescreens despite disabling my other av's and outpost. still got thet bluescreen after uninstalling the firewall so i guess the av is conflicting somehow with my other (disabled) av's - kav and drweb

the ZA version looked like ZA pro to me but i cant say for sure. it had protection against dll injection etc, but im not a za expert so i dont know, but the only difference i couls see between the za i tried some time ago and this was the logo

[subratam]

if you are asking about Ez Armor the latest collaboration of CA and Microsoft for free AV and firewall... i also downloaded that...
while installing it says you must uninstall any other AV ( in my case NAV) to continue.. otherwise system may crash slow restart etc (just what happened to you tahoma)
umm if u say that the firewall resembles ZA.. then i think no necessity for this EzArmor atleast at this moment .. cause it conflicts with other security softwares... free AV -> AVG free Firewall -> Kerio2X life happens to be more or less secured...

[bellgamin]

EZ uses the VET engine.

The FW is ZA-PRO...
http://www.my-etrust.com/products/Firewall.cfm

CA normally sells it for $40. If it's free [& IF you like ZA - which I do not] then it's a great deal.

[Chuck57]

I just messaged with a guy on another forum who downloaded EZArmor free. He then proceeded to go to go to Kazaa, where he knew he could find infected files to test it.

He says EZ allowed the download of a file infected with a virus and THEN warned him, after the file was downloaded, that there was an infected file on his system. I failed to write down the virus, but he said it was over a one year old virus. Then, he said it couldn't clean the file. He ditched EZ and went back to AVAST which got rid of the virus.

Doesn't EZ stop the the things before they get on the computer? I thought that was what real time monitoring was all about.

[Technodrome]

It depends what was his configuration for RTM. I've tried this av before and it will block, delete or cure infected file.


tECHNODROME

[subratam]

EzArmor.... is going through hard tests .... ;) but as i said... its not worthy to try nou unless u know how to operate it... cause it dont run along with other AVs and u hav to uninstall other b4 install Ez(as it said to me)
i hav the installer .exe with me if anyone wants i can send ...
good luck

[Firefighter]

To everyone from Firefighter!

Is it possible to install only the firewall or something like with McAfee VirusScan Pro's, when I disabled the av after installation and reinstalled my favourite av back too?

Btw, how much did M$ pay to CA that they made this happen? It seems to me that M$ is quite desperate just now!


"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best regards,
Firefighter!

[subratam]

fire can u tell me what security softwares u currently use any firewall u use??

[Chuck57]

Well, Firefighter, the antivirus and the firewall are in separate folders in the program, leading me to believe it might be possible to remove the AV and keep the firewall. I'm tempted to try it and load McAfee V7. I think the EZ firewall (ZA Pro) is probably a better firewall than McAfee's.

As for Microsoft being desperate. It's about time. Apple has made some serious inroads in the past year with their OSX

[subratam]

if Ez is ZA pro why dont you download the latest from zonelabs check out the update forum latest pro 4 has is out... ZA is application based firewall .but if you know your rules (Blitz firewall guru in wilders said to me) try kerio 2X i have that now.. i had ZA but uninstalled it... as i got the advice not good to keep two firewalls in same machine running at same time

[Chuck57]

Well, subratam, it's definitely ZoneAlarm. I checked in the program and everything there is ZA. I don't know if CA has any proprietary things included, other than the GUI though. It's ZA 3.7.179, which is an older version but still good as far as I know.

I'm just hesitant to mess around with any of it. I'm on a dialup and downloading takes about half an hour if I screw things up.

[subratam]

chuck ,
what security softwares you have rite nou?? you have any firewall right now??
and specially if you have dial up u surely need a good firewall... i hope you have one already...
ZA pro version 4 has got some really good features like cache cleaner, popup blocker etc... with others... i wanted to keep it but for kerio2X (which i updated from tiny firewall and had been in my pc from first..) and my affected network... which relays ping packets...

[subratam]

i read in one post EzArmor from CA+Microsoft have been released with AV and firewall in one
i went to the site read revies.. i felt its nice and downloaded it... when i am goin to install it says u hav NAV and so i have to uninstall it before installing Ez as they recommend 2 AVS can cause crash...
1. i hav in my comp AVG and NAV, trojan hunter, trojan remover, TDS-3, spybot, spywareblaster, adaware, GFI languard... in short i dont fill my comp with junks but security softwares like this are present... p4 2.4 with 256 DDR ram... 40 gb.. and i dun install games or any junk softwares.. i hav norton crashguard.. i saw some here and also read that today to b secured u cant be with one or two specific security softwares.. what you say?
2. How is EzArmor in comparison to NAV??

[Chuck57]

subratam, right now I've got the EZ firewall and EZ antivirus, since I had to remove my other. I like the firewall. It's fully stealthed in the five places I use to check firewalls, so that isn't a problem.

I'm considering trying to remove the antivirus and going back to either McAfee or AntiVir PE, since I've used both and both do well. I don't hang out in gaming sites, Kazaa, or anyplace where you're apt to pick up a virus. Hopefully, the firewall will keep running after a get rid of the AV

[subratam]

you just wanted to check Ez right ... thats why you went for EzArmor... as you say you like Mcafee and you want it back... i cant say whether you can get firewall after uninstalling EZ AV ...dont forget to read the uninstall procedure i think i read firewall is integrated part... i am not 100% sure though... one more question ... dont you have any AntiTrojan???

[Chuck57]

I was curious about EZ.....I like checking out various types of software.

I downloaded a trial antitrojan software a week or so ago. This box is clean. I don't normally run antitrojan software.

[notageek]

LOL well with the problems I'm having with McAfee I might just try this EZ AV. :)

[Chuck57]

I never had any problem at all with McAfee v7. The firewall was probably okay. My wife has it on her system now and no trouble there either, and she likes it. I just didn't like McAfee's firewall, so I went looking at others.

Typically, I'll fool with av and firewall for a few months, get tired of it, and go looking for something else. McAfee, I kept until ETrust Promo came out and switched to that. I've been through almost every firewall on the market. I think I'm addicted to testing firewalls. Someday, I'll figure out what I'm doing.

I liked McAfee. It worked well on my system. I've got a 1.2G Athlon, 512RAM, generic computer. It was built by a guy up the road. My wife's machine is 900 Athlon with 384 RAM also generic from the same guy.

[bigc73542]

I never had any trouble with mcafee 7.0 either, But I just installed eztrust av and firewall. wouldn't let me install with mcafee on my comp. But it ignored bitdefender 7.0 free.they seem to like each other. Just an initial opinion about eztrust it is running well on my xpsp1. Scans pretty darn fast to.if it keeps working as well as it is now I will probably keep it .It is most definattly za pro firewall but it is working well also..







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[Chuck57]

Hey, bigc, the EZ version of ZA is 3.7 something. Any idea whether it could be upgraded to the new 4.5 with the EZ license? Most of the thing is ZA, and they don't try to hide the fact in the program files.

By the way, the worm that I mentioned the guy getting with EZ av was the W32.Sddrop (wrm)

[bigc73542]

I really kind of doubt if you could update it to the new version. this one is 3.7.179. When you install this program you have the option to install the firewall and privacy modual. Or you could install the firewall without the av. It just has check boxes bye the items to install. :)







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[Firefighter]

To Subratam from Firefighter!

If u asked my firewall and av:s, they are Outpost v2 Pro firewall and eXtendia AVK Pro resident av and eTrust v.7.0.142 backup av plus TrrojanHunter 3.7. Sometimes when I know that there is less risk to get infected, I'm gonna use eTrust v7 Inoculate engine as my resident av (= when my kids are not using my PC).


"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best regards,
Firefighter!

[solarpowered candle]

EZ Firewall is very good . The only tests I have read about it are http://www.pcflank.com/art41c.htm where EZ was amongst the top 3.
Its desktop protection is now included in the firewall which has cookie control and Ad blocking as well as mobile code control and email protection .
I run EZ Firewall with e Trust v7 promo ( InoculateIT and Vet engines ) and it hums along .
This package is an excellent free combo that is great for those who may not wish to purchase or cannot for what ever reason but need excellent protection..
It would be interesting to see if you take out the anti virus in this combo and add to it e Trust promo and see if it still works.
Anyways I just want to say how happy I am with EZ Firewall and also e Trust anti virus.

[Karl_Menshy]

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To everyone from Firefighter!

Is it possible to install only the firewall or something like with McAfee VirusScan Pro's, when I disabled the av after installation and reinstalled my favourite av back too?

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About the FW: You can decide yourself what to install, only AV, only FW or both. Besides the program plays well with other AV as a backup scanner if you disable the resident protection from the options and remove the startup entries.

Only one bad thing for users on a modem line: updates (almost daily ones...) seem to be "full" sig updates every time, so no small incremental ones.

Overall...good idea to use, at least as a backup...

Does anybody know which of the business product engines (VET/Inoculate) VB tests, so that we could evaluate the strength of the VET engine used in ezArmor?

Karl

[Firefighter]

To Karl_Menshy from Firefighter!

If u are using winXP, look at this link about VB 6-2003.

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=9829;start=60

But the both are very good scanners as VB "in the Wild" tests.


"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best regards,
Firefighter!

[subratam]

hmmm i was a bit offline .. i had to go to sleep ;) had been awake for long...
this forum is gaining speed man :P
about the review in pcflank Ez and ZA 3 had same points "5" and ya i know already Ez is nothing but ZA 3.7 one thing i shoud say here to chuck... never trust anything or anyone but a good antitrojan in your computer in case of trojans... i think its more than a good idea to keep an antitrojan in computer... (i have three ;) ) i had ZA pro with some extra features than ZA 3.7 and so to speak Ez(had cookies control and Ad blocker) its nice if you can configure
ZoneAlarm Pro, can do much better if properly configured. So users of ZoneAlarm Pro/Plus should enable the “High” level of control to pass more tests.
i have kerio2X .. and i am happy with it... cause you can make your own rules (i am helped by Blitz, firewall moderator ) to disallow any outsiders.. and as i said i got it from many.. i cease to run more than one firewall in my computer...

[Karl_Menshy]

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To Karl_Menshy from Firefighter!

If u are using winXP, look at this link about VB 6-2003.

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=9829;start=60

But the both are very good scanners as VB "in the Wild" tests.


"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best regards,
Firefighter!

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Hmm...I was suspecting that the VET engine was the worse part of the professional bundle...

[solarpowered candle]

Vet is not too shabby with 19 VB 100 awards
InoculateIT has only 15.
Vet is not so well known in the northern hemisphere as it is Australian . http://www.vet.com.au/

[Firefighter]

To everyone from Firefighter!

Hi everyone! Does somebody know what REAL add value does the latest ZA Pro have that EZ Firewall hasn't in security issues?

PS. I am using now eXtendia AVK Pro as my resident av and eTrust EZ av (VET) as my backup and my firewall is eTrust EZ firewall, everything is going well!


"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best regards,
Firefighter!

[Karl_Menshy]

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Vet is not too shabby with 19 VB 100 awards
InoculateIT has only 15.
Vet is not so well known in the northern hemisphere as it is Australian . http://www.vet.com.au/


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Seems I somehow missed the CA (Vet) entry in the VB100 award archives...thanks for the info.

[Chuck57]

overall, I'm pretty happy with EZArmor, although I'm not a huge fan of the EZ firewall GUI (ZoneAlarm), as well as the apparent lack of control the user has over it. It's passed every test I've thrown at it, though, so I probably shouldn't complain too much. I'll stick with the suite for a while until I get the crazed urge to try the next thing that comes along.

[notageek]

Can someone post some Screenies of the EZ firwall.?

[solarpowered candle]

A little bit of info till someone posts a few pics :)
http://www.vet.com.au/html/products/firewall.html

[Chuck57]

I'm sure somebody with more expertise than me will post the pictures. EZ firewall and ZA are virtually identical, so if you've used ZoneAlarm, you'll know what EZ looks like, except for the color and name.

[Firefighter]

To everyone from Firefighter!

Although I am totally "moron" to adjust firewalls, the tests I made against EZ firewall were almost excellent from the EZ's viewpoint.

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jugesoftware/firewallleaktester/eng/pageweb/test.html

My eTrust EZ firewall Leak test results in WinXP Home:

Leak Test 1.2 passed
TooLeaky failed
Firehole test interrupted
Yalta passed
PC-audit failed
AWFT 5/10
Thermit failed
Copycat passed
WallBreaker 0/2

Total: 9/19

Compare that to Norton's 4/19 and ZA Pro 4, 7/19!


"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best regards,
Firefigher!

[subratam]

hey fire,
the other day i just installed Ez Fire for sometime hey rite its same as ZA 3+ but if u want wat else is thr in ZA pro there's advanced pop up blocker, cache cleaner effective cookie handling
nice one but yes if well configured... Ez is good but if u need firewall go for
1. kerio2X( if u kno rules)
2. ZA pro (application based)

[solarpowered candle]

Not everyone can or desires to set there own rules . And one mistake and you could be custard. I think that EZ offers a very good set up that makes for an excellent firewall with email /add blocking/ cookie control/ mobile code/. etc. Combined with the e trust anti virus its an excellent free security package

[subratam]

with Ez also u need to configure candle..... if you keep as its default for cookies ads... you are custard again... you need to know something..

[solarpowered candle]

MMM It does have an excellent tutorial that is easy as to follow . :)

[subratam]

Go with the flow after all ;)

[bigc73542]

I have used ez trust av and firewall for a few days now and all I can say about it is I LIKE IT. ;D The av seems to work well low impact on system, firewall is fairly easy to configure and the sites where I have tested it it has done very well. I believe it is a keeper.







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[Firefighter]

To everyone from Firefighter!

Hi everyone! It took a plenty of time after I was able to install free EZ firewall without VET antivirus. Now I am personally using the free eTrust v7.0.142 AV (Inoculate engine) as my resident AV plus TrojanHunter 3.7 and free eTrust EZ Firewall together and when my kids are using my PC, I'm gonna replace my resident AV to eXtendia AVK Pro!

Good hunting to everyone!

PS. The Firewall is damn good!


"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best regards,
Firefighter!

[minacross]

So, any Ms-Windows user is able to use this AV legally?
I have eTrust 7 promo installed, which is better? ???

[Firefighter]

To Minacross from Firefighter!

I have the eTrust Promo version too, but I upgraded that to version 7.0.142.

I downloaded that EZ Firewall from site,

http://www.antivirus-online.de/german/countfire.php3?a=1015

without any questions, so my privacy was more secure.

After downloading I just registered my EZ firewall with my reg key I have got from that free eTrust EZ Armor option.

I'm using that CA Inoculate engine only because that is so good "in the Zoo" scanner comparing the VET results (very poor against polymorphic viruses) and the only misses CA Inoculate have got in gaining VB 100% Awards are basicly because of some few false alarms in their tests! CA Inoculate is about on the same level in the VB "in the Zoo" tests as Kaspersky when CA VET is on the same level as AVG!


"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best regards,
Firefighter!

[subratam]

fire... ZAP is good to have right to be safe??

[solarpowered candle]

From SPC to Firefighter ,
hi , I am unsure about your statistics regarding Vet in comparing it to InoculateIT and AVG , and have only been able to find the following ?

From VB 100 awards in August

VET
* ItW File - 100%
* ItW File (o/a) - 100%
* Standard - 99.90%
* Macro - 99.82%
* Macro (o/a) - 99.82%
* Polymorphic - 98.50%

Inocul;ateIT
* ItW File - 100%
* ItW File (o/a) - 100%
* Standard - 99.82%
* Macro - 99.90%
* Macro (o/a) - 99.90%
* Polymorphic - 99.89%


Not a lot of diffirence between them are there?

Or have you found some testings or stats from the recent November VB 100 awards ?

Also Vet attained 19 VB 100%awards http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?vet.xml

InoculateIT attained 15 100% awards
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?etrust.xm

AVG attained 3 100% awards
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?avg.xml

just a thought

I totally agree with you FF that EZ Firewall is one cool Firewall. I run it with my e Trust promo v7 alternating between Inoculate and Vet for my real time monitor and local scanner.

[Firefighter]

To Solarpowered Candle from Firefighter!

Just look at this link.

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=9829;start=60

It is VB WinXP June 2003.

August 2003 VB CA Inoculate missed totally 6 samples when CA VET missed totally 451 samples in the same On-Demand test!

If u are looking other independent tests than VB, the situation is somewhat the same.


"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best regards,
Firefighter!

[solarpowered candle]

To Firefighter from SPC Thank you for that. My link was to a later VB award in august . That will be why . There doesnt appear to be a lot of diffirence .
Im impressed with the Vet attainments and have no hesitation using it .

[Firefighter]

To SPC from Firefighter!

The detecting percents (%) VB is publishing are weighted or manipulated what ever u can say it. The truth is behind those missed objects each AV has got.


"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best regards,
Firefighter!

[Chuck57]

Thanks Firefighter for that URL to the site in Germany. I deleted EZfirewall and downloaded the one from that site, then entered the license number.

The firewall went into the EZArmor Suite again, but increased the licensing time. Before, I had until Feb 2005 on the license. Now, it shows me as having until November of 2005, nine more months. Don't know why that happened, but I'm not complaining.

Chuck

[Firefighter]

To Chuck57 from Firefighter!

Can u tel me how I can check when my licencing date will be expired by using eTrust EZ FW?

Because I'm a sort of "moron" by using the WinXP, I have not used that system restore point issues in my PC. For some missing Windows files I had to reinstall the whole WinXP and when I tried to install my eTrust EZ Armor through the web , believe me, in a minute, I got Blaster and Welchi worms to my puter, very strange!!!?

"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best regards,
Firefighter!

[solarpowered candle]

Im on wind 98se . but for me to check my licensing info I
>start > programmes > e Trust EZ armour > > e trust EZ Armour licensing and registration > component status .> EZ Firewall details .

[Chuck57]

Firefighter, I have Win XP Home. I go into program files and find CA. Click on it and it will show EZArmor. Open that file and you'll see license and registration. On mine, it looks like a mallet or hammer. Open it and it'll show both antivirus and firewall and two buttons that say details beside them. Click on whichever you want and it will tell you how long you have left.

I just finished trying something else and got some curious results. I checked search in my computer for ZAP. It showed a couple of ZAP setup files, both with 3.86MB of data. I clicked one of them and it told me to remove EZ Firewall before ZAP will load. So.....I uninstalled EZ firewall again and tried the setup. It loaded the ZAP firewall with EZ GUI, but WITHOUT any license or place to type in a license. It also now shows the Zonelabs file and firewall in my programs.

EZArmor shows only the antivirus. It has all the same stuff as the EZ firewall but, I guess, no license. I checked the program files, and the license isn't there. Everything works....

[Firefighter]

To Chuck57 from Firefighter!

Lucky u, my EZ FW is expirering in a year!

Best regards,
Firefighter!

[Chuck57]

Well, Firefighter, I don't know if this one will continue or expire in 30 days. If it does, I'll uninstall everything and start all over I guess.

If it doesn't, I'll be happy. If it does, I've learned something....don't mess with it if it works. Trouble is, I can't keep from experimenting.

[bigc73542]

I don't know how I did it but I have a one year subscription for eZArmor. Take a look at the days remaining

[Chuck57]

Bigc, We won't tell them that a year is 365 days.

[bigc73542]

i like their way of counting ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D









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[Detox]

Hm well 2 years would be 730; was there maybe a promotion about buy one year get one free? Guess that's unlikely.. Just noticed how close the number is to 2 years ::)

[solarpowered candle]

I would delete the anti virus , but keep the firewall and download the free e Trust v7 promo . excellent combination. (some thing about the promo ....its kind of addictive and its not just the colours 8)

[bigc73542]

I did just that and the promo will scan my comp for about 10.000 files then it will freeze up. I even cut the file it was stuck on and tried again but it froze up again. It doesn't matter anyway I like the eZArmor antivirus. The vet scan engine used to be behind inoculate but after looking at some of the later comparisons they seem to be pretty close. :) I liked the promo it just didn't like me :-[








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[solarpowered candle]

oooo thats a shame .
I actually like vet too and use it most of the time on my promo .

[zyx345]

Just d/l the Ez Armor suite. There is a FAQ section that states you can install it & keep your existing antivirus but I tried this & I had to uninstall NAV.

After I did that I was able to do a custom install & keep AVG Antivirus & run the EZ Firewall only.

[meneer]

This is normal behaviour. Always run only 1 firewall and 1 resident AV-scanner (a scanner that constantly monitors memory and file and network input/output). There would be major conflicts between the different security tools.
You can run a second scanner as a standby scanner. I suppose that's what they mean in the FAQ.

[StarFox]

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I just finished trying something else and got some curious results. I checked search in my computer for ZAP. It showed a couple of ZAP setup files, both with 3.86MB of data. I clicked one of them and it told me to remove EZ Firewall before ZAP will load. So.....I uninstalled EZ firewall again and tried the setup. It loaded the ZAP firewall with EZ GUI, but WITHOUT any license or place to type in a license. It also now shows the Zonelabs file and firewall in my programs.

EZArmor shows only the antivirus. It has all the same stuff as the EZ firewall but, I guess, no license. I checked the program files, and the license isn't there. Everything works....
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Hy Chuck57 !

What happend to your ZAP after 30 days, did it stay pro or changed to free? I guess you're back to EZFW now. Have you tried your EZ Armor Key with ZAP? At the beginning of the installation process there must be a screen where you can insert a license key.
You said your setup files were 3.86MB, thats also what Zonelab says. Yesterday I downloaded ZAP and the file was 4.891MB - actually EZFW is 4.947.




PS: The Packers came close on sunday.

[BerserkerPup]

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Can someone post some Screenies of the EZ firwall.?
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Here are some:

[BerserkerPup]

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[notageek]

Thanks for posting the Screenies of the firewall BerserkerPup

[Chuck57]

Hello Starfox. Yeah, license or not, ZAP still kept its 30 day evaluation. I've moved on to several different firewalls since. Right now, I'm using Kaspersky Antihacker, a very basic firewall but stealth everywhere I check, and it does pretty well on some of the leaktests. I alternate every few weeks or a month between it and LooknStop. These two seem to attract me more than the others.

[StarFox]

Thanx, nice to know. I guess I'll stay with EZ FW for a while.