Windows Live one care

[maddawgz]

how does this compare with other Av's??Compartives is it better then AVG is it final yet? and its 90days free trial right tx MD

[Crappopotamus]

-{ Quote: "how does this compare with other Av's??Compartives is it better then AVG is it final yet? and its 90days free trial right tx MD" }-


A good bit of comment about it here, just hit the search button.. :)

[WSFuser]

iirc OneCare failed the last Virus Bulletin.

also i dont think its detection improved yet.

[IBK]

avg is much better.

[lucas1985]

-{ Quote: "avg is much better." }-
Quite a statement :o
I thought that OneCare could be "good enough"
It´s quite a shame that a AV coming from a giant like Microsoft and being not free does not live up to industry standards.

[OldRebel]

The less than adequate virus scanner in One Care is only one problem with it. Users are also having major problems with installation and activation. To make matters even worse, your installation is *forever* linked to the passport account you use to purchase it and cannot be transferred. Support for the US version is bad, and it seems European support might even be worse. I would avoid it at all costs.

[JerryM]

I thought it used the Kaspersky engine?

Jerry

[ASpace]

-{ Quote: "I thought it used the Kaspersky engine?" }-

;D ;D Not true

[ASpace]

-{ Quote: "It´s quite a shame that a AV coming from a giant like Microsoft and being not free does not live up to industry standards." }-

It is simply not possible for anybody to be the best in everything . Microsoft make very good OS and excellent Office products (and other programs) but they cannot be best in everything . ;)

[OldRebel]

-{ Quote: "I thought it used the Kaspersky engine?

Jerry" }-
It's absolutely NOT the Kasperksy engine. Microsoft bought RAV (Romanian AntiVirus) several years ago, and used it as the staring point for developing its own Microsoft engine. The current Microsoft product has been significanly altered (I won't say improved), just like they bought Giant Antiswpyware and then dumbed it down to create Microsoft Antispyware, which then became Windows Defender. The current AV/AS engine in WLOC 1.5 is Microsoft's own product, AKAIK.

[JerryM]

Thanks for the correction. I am thinking that there is a free AV that uses the stripped down Kaspersky engine. ???
Thanks,
Jerry

[Blackcat]

-{ Quote: "Thanks for the correction. I am thinking that there is a free AV that uses the stripped down Kaspersky engine. ???
Thanks,
Jerry" }-
AOL's Active Shield ;)

[lodore]

active virus shield with aol skin and aol custom icon
lodore

[JerryM]

Thanks, I had it confused. Or I was confused!??? ??? ;D

I suspect it would not be a bad freebie, but since it is stripped down, it might not be as good overall as Avast. Any opinions?

Best,
Jerry

[IBK]

onecare is not a free product.

[Firecat]

-{ Quote: "Quite a statement :o
I thought that OneCare could be "good enough"
It´s quite a shame that a AV coming from a giant like Microsoft and being not free does not live up to industry standards." }-
I don't find that surprising at all, given that AVG has made serious efforts in improvement over the past few months. :)

OneCare certainly has potential to be a great product, but at this time, it is not good at all. Absolutely unrecommended!

[JerryM]

-{ Quote: "onecare is not a free product." }-

I was thinking of the AOL Active Virus Shield, and comparing it with Avast or other freebie. Since that is off topic I'll drop it.

Thanks,
Jerry

[lucas1985]

-{ Quote: "It is simply not possible for anybody to be the best in everything ." }-
I don´t expect that OneCare has to be the best, but, at least, it has to pass VB100 certification.
-{ Quote: "I don't find that surprising at all, given that AVG has made serious efforts in improvement over the past few months. :)" }-
I know that :) The phrase that impressed me most was -{ Quote: "much better" }-
It sounds like OneCare is way behind the standards.

[Firecat]

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It sounds like OneCare is way behind the standards." }-

The recent PC-Welt tests done by AV-test.org also suggest the same thing. :)

[ASpace]

-{ Quote: "I don´t expect that OneCare has to be the best, but, at least, it has to pass VB100 certification." }-
About the VB100% , yes , it is a must nowadays , I think :thumb:

[Durad]

-{ Quote: "The recent PC-Welt tests done by AV-test.org also suggest the same thing. :)" }-

Its price as well :)

[C.S.J]

ok, after trying the latest build of onecare, i can (so far) say its more stable, has anyone else noticed it seems more stable?

we know detection is not quite there yet, however MS are a big company and im sure it wont take long to challenge the big boys.

anyway,

defragment > isnt this just the one implented in windows anyway?
remove files > isnt this just disk cleanup?
firewall > isnt this basically the vista firewall with a bit of tweaking?

and then you have the AV...

seems stupid to put it in the software when it is basically using tools already in windows, they should keep it strictly antivirus and control there efforts on that.

anyway, we shall see how it goes... its the latest one im giving a try on vista (Still..... waiting for dr.web to be vista compatible *Sighs)

[midway40]

It is pretty much what you said except that the OC firewall is more user friendly. In XP, it gives you outgoing control. In Vista's case, even though it has outgoing control it is turned off by default and rules have to be set manually. In OneCare, the firewall acts more like other firewalls, a learning mode with popups.

I tried it for a little while just to see what it was about. Though I liked the firewall, the other elements of the suite did not impress me.

[C.S.J]

i think for such a new av on the market, whether its based on something else or not ... 82% is good for such an early start, and with microsoft being the massive company that they are, and the creators of the OS that most people use, i can see them pushing the big AV companys all the way, only time will tell i guess.

[337]

I was wondering, can onecare be custom installed w/o the AV? I would like to have the firewall w/Nod32.8)

[C.S.J]

no it cant, its mainly an av with a tweaked firewall and a backup thing.

[midway40]

I wished the modules could be installed seperately or I would be using the firewall right now, lol. I don't have the patience to set up Vista's outgoing.

[337]

Crap, so much for outbound protection in my Vista rig....:'(

[C.S.J]

lol, you know what you could do... put in onecare and give it a test like me ;D


90 days, not bad for a trial. :o

its average software, but should still protect it just lacks some features at the moment, the detection rate will come with time im sure.

[337]

-{ Quote: "lol, you know what you could do... put in onecare and give it a test like me ;D


90 days, not bad for a trial. :o

its average software, but should still protect it just lacks some features at the moment, the detection rate will come with time im sure." }-

True, but i think it needs to bake a little longer---just like vista needs too..
Trying to get stuff to work is kinda like tinkering w/linux!!!;D

[midway40]

-{ Quote: "Crap, so much for outbound protection in my Vista rig....:'(" }-

Yeah, it was a letdown for sure. If you want to try to set it up yourself you can go here to find out how:

http://members.rushmore.com/~jsky/id34.html

A lot of this stuff is over my head, this is definitely not for the average user. At least OC makes the set up easier.

[midway40]

-{ Quote: "Trying to get stuff to work is kinda like tinkering w/linux!!!;D" }-

Actually with UAC and Superfetch (using RAM as a cache) it is getting kind of Linux-y, lol.

[337]

-{ Quote: "Yeah, it was a letdown for sure. If you want to try to set it up yourself you can go here to find out how:

http://members.rushmore.com/~jsky/id34.html

A lot of this stuff is over my head, this is definitely not for the average user. At least OC makes the set up easier." }-

Thanks for the link, but I'm too lazy to jump through those hoops!!!;D