Opinions of F-Secure

[JerryM]

I know that the number of processes and the memory usage are major objections to F-Secure. However, I do not recall reading of instability problems or system crashes.

My own experience is that it is less troublesome than any AV that I have used except Avast Home.
A recent installation of FS IS 2006 resulted in some icons not showing in the tray. I did not find that in the AV. I trialled FS IS 2007, and it ran well.
I have returned to FS AV on my laptop.

So I am wondering if anyone here has had BDOD, instability, or incompatibility problems with FS AV or FS IS either 2006 or 2007?

Thanks,
Jerry

[trjam]

Jerry, in the last week I have bought the suite for my main, and today bought the AV for my laptop which is not always connected. Personally after all the switching and crap I have done, I love them both and completely happy with each. I have had no issues with installing, updating or scanning. My OCD has finally found something it can live with and for that, I am satisfied. Both prducts get a A rating from me. So if you see me here alot less, it is only because I found some great information and over time found a product that suits me.

I realize some had issues with 2006, but as with all these products, some versions are better then others under the same name brand.

[JerryM]

{QUOTE-> Jerry, in the last week I have bought the suite for my main, and today bought the AV for my laptop which is not always connected. Personally after all the switching and crap I have done, I love them both and completely happy with each. I have had no issues with installing, updating or scanning. My OCD has finally found something it can live with and for that, I am satisfied. Both prducts get a A rating from me. So if you see me here alot less, it is only because I found some great information and over time found a product that suits me.

I realize some had issues with 2006, but as with all these products, some versions are better then others under the same name brand. <-QUOTE}

Hi trjam,
Thanks for the reply. Out of curiosoty, why did you choose the IS on one and AV on the other. Do you prefer your firewall over the IS firewall?

Best,
Jerry

[trjam]

the laptop only gets turnd on a couple of times a day and has the router to protect it. the desktop is always on and even with the router, I like the HIPS and all the other cool stuff in the suite. Again, I have a 2 year license for Avira, but as far as suites go, this is a suite.::)

[farmerlee]

I ran f-secure for a while and had no problems at all with it. Very reliable and stable from my experiences. Only gave it up due to its high resource use.

[JerryM]

Thanks for the replies.
Fortunately, the resource usage does not slow my machine very much, and is not a problem.

FS IS is the only suite I have tried except Avira. I liked Avira, but it had a couple of nagging problems, and I did not want to bother. FS IS 2007 ran flawlessly during the trial.

Best,
Jerry

[Macstorm]

FSAV 2007 runs like a charm here :)

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[lodore]

just to point out the main reason i dumped f-secure was because it slowed down my system to much.
also it was because i found lots of red entries in event viewer saying timed out on scanning such and such file.
for ages it worked fine thou.
I think most of the blue screens where caused by spysweeper.
btw the firewall can sometimes fail but the rest of the av always loads up correctly at least on my pc
lodore

[trjam]

lodore please clarify in the future that what you base your reasoning on is the 2006 product, not the 2007. That would be like me trying to compare Kasperskys version 4 engine to todays. Big difference.

[rdsu]

F-Secure have a very good detection but it's very heavy on resources...

[lodore]

i infact started with the f-secure 2005 version that ran fine.
i had someproblems with the 2006 version like the little red icon above the blue f-secure icon that means automatic updates failed but i think most people had that.
i tryed the 2007 version very breifly but the deepguard on normal settings blocked my sound card driver. so i had to ask it to ask on all actions which meant you have to say yes to about 50 questions during a normal printer installation.

lodore

[Simon6776]

Since ditching Norton last year, I have tried FSIS 2006 & 2007, Bit Defender IS 9 & 10, Zone Alarm IS 6.0 and 7.0, Kaspersky IS 6.0 and Norton IS 2007. Of all of these, I like FSIS the best. That's not to say it doesn't come with baggage. The 2006 version caused shutdown problems, which is why I uninstalled it and went through all the rest, but in the end, after a lot of deliberations, I decided to try out the 2007 version, and found it like the return of an old friend. I do still have a problem with the Full System Scan, which won't complete, but it's the spyware scan that causes the problem, and I think the issue is isolated to my PC, so I just use the Scan Hard Drives option, and use Super Anti-Spyware as my on demand spyware scanner.

I also think KIS is a great suite, and worked without any problems on my machine, but for some reason, I still favour FSIS 2007, despite the scanning issue, and the fact that it's incompatible with some other security products. While it may have lots of running processes, it seems to cause slightly less drag on web traffic scanning, and I don't get as many firewall / PDM pop ups as I did with KIS. There is also the opinions of some, that FSIS is more secure than KIS, but I have nothing to substantiate that.

On my machine, KIS worked perfectly. FSIS 2007 does have it's quirks, but I still like it better than all the rest. It hasn't caused any slowdown on my PC (apart from a slightly slower boot up than with KIS, but still nothing compared to Norton 2007), and I believe that my connection speed is actually faster with FSIS. On an older machine, maybe I would go for KIS, due to the fact that it's lighter on resources, but on a less than 2 year old PC, especially with a clean(ish) Windows installation, I would recommend FSIS 2007 every time. It's also cheaper than most of the others, especially the OEM version, which can be purchased from online retailers. The CD is bootable, enabling virus cleaning for very sick machines.

[C.S.J]

f-secure is fantastic,

if i didnt have my dr.web, the AV 2007 would be on my laptop. ;D

[trjam]

well for the cost of spam protection, ole F may be on your computer sooner, then later.::)

[C.S.J]

we will see how it all turns out, i like the doctor too much to just 'give up' on them because of this.

they just have some marketing issues as one user stated

and f-secure (like many) will not delete infected archives but mainly just report on them, dr.web is one of FEW maybe unique, that will delete the infected file from within the archive and keep the archive on your machine, without the infected file within.

dr.web has alot too offer, i love the software and the company as a whole, im just puzzled by this latest news of chargin for the spam.

[GES/POR]

Maybe im out of line in respect of moderators but the thread is about f-secure and i don't have any problem with ur fantastic news about dr web but ur continuesly spamming doesn't make me wanna buy the product really! Infact i consider spamming to be virus behaviour. Are you a new sort highly advanced virus?

[C.S.J]

i know you read it so i can retract it from the message :d

my post was about f-secure, and the 2nd was just a reply to trjam.

[trjam]

Oh hell, lets get on the bandwagon, Nod32 is the best. F Secure seemed ok until it didt update for 2 days.

[thehudd]

Have tried a number of a/v programs and am sticking with FSAV 2007. I know it loads a number of processes, but doesn't slow my machine at all. All in all, it's all I need with a good router and BOclean, just in case.

[Macstorm]

{QUOTE-> Oh hell, lets get on the bandwagon, Nod32 is the best. F Secure seemed ok until it didt update for 2 days. <-QUOTE}
When it happened to you? I haven't seen any problem about updates on FSAV 2007 from 11 days back when installed the software :blink:

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[trjam]

{QUOTE-> When it happened to you? I haven't seen any problem about updates on FSAV 2007 from 11 days back when installed the software :blink:

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I bought a family license for Nod32. I am sorry, but it is my flavor of the month.8) Ok, F Secure is good but mine didnt update for 2 days untill I rebooted and my settings are correct. Bottom line, I just want something simple and secure and Nod is it. I really do buy my products. I also feel a little guilty about something, but that is my own thing to deal with.:wacko:

[NAMOR]

{QUOTE-> I know that the number of processes and the memory usage are major objections to F-Secure. However, I do not recall reading of instability problems or system crashes.

My own experience is that it is less troublesome than any AV that I have used except Avast Home.
A recent installation of FS IS 2006 resulted in some icons not showing in the tray. I did not find that in the AV. I trialled FS IS 2007, and it ran well.
I have returned to FS AV on my laptop.

So I am wondering if anyone here has had BDOD, instability, or incompatibility problems with FS AV or FS IS either 2006 or 2007?

Thanks,
Jerry <-QUOTE}


I have had a couple of BSOD with F-Secure IS 2007 when it first came out. Apparently, it did not like the driver for linksys wireless card. I have recently reinstall the newest version of F-Secure 2007 and haven't seen any problems..

[JerryM]

Thanks for all the responses. F-Secure has about replaced KAV as my favorite. I have confidence that Kaspersky will get the bugs out of MP2, but I have to wonder if the version that includes the improved heuristics will be buggy.

I may have to stay with MP1 for a long time. In the meantime, I plan to keep FS on my laptop. It is about as good an "install and forget" AV as anything I have tried, and I like that. I hate to have to try to trouble shoot (with a lot of help of course) when a new or major change is made.

I guess the load on the system prevents F-Secure from being as popular as some other AVs, but there seems to be few problems with it, other than the load. Although it takes a minute or so longer to load and the system become ready than some others, that is not a big problem for me.

Thanks, again for the information.
Jerry

[daddymo3]

I can see that there are a number of people out there that like FSIS,but tell us why. Is the firewall superior to others? Is the ant-spam affective? Is the AS part of the suite as good as the free ones out there?Are the scans slow or fast?.....tell us more. :D

[lodore]

i have to be honst here.
the only av that hasnt caused me any problems during testing is nod32.
second was kaspersky
sure i had some good times with f-secure but in the end the ties broke and i dumped it.
i really need to get my pc sorted out thou. so it works all the time rather than when it feels like it.
lodore

[trjam]

lodore , you have a license , use it my friend.

[lodore]

im gonna use the nod32 license on the pc im gonna build when ive got the money link (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=164383)

[Macstorm]

So does nod32 licenses starts from the day you install the product or when first purchased? ???

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[trjam]

{QUOTE-> When it happened to you? I haven't seen any problem about updates on FSAV 2007 from 11 days back when installed the software :blink:

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Hey Mac, I was just pulling your leg. I am F-Secure my friend.

[Macstorm]

I see, Trjam. Your ever changing avatar is driving me nuts :wacko: ;D

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[trjam]

I know, I apologize.:'(

[JerryM]

I am continuing to experience very poor customer support. I opened a support ticket on Jan. 14, 2007, I received one query asking for more info on the 18th, which I immediately provided, but no further response. I wonder if I am going to have to open another support request.

I even got an email on 1 Feb asking me to evaluate the support I received, and told them that nothing had been done. I am still waiting.

Best,
Jerry

[Macstorm]

Are you a registered user Jerry?

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[TonyW]

{QUOTE-> I have confidence that Kaspersky will get the bugs out of MP2, but I have to wonder if the version that includes the improved heuristics will be buggy. <-QUOTE}I understood the heuristics will become available in the same manner as signature updates, and not as a brand new program version. Sure, there will probably be false positives as most vendors discover until they are reported.

[NAMOR]

{QUOTE-> I see, Trjam. Your ever changing avatar is driving me nuts :wacko: ;D

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Someone should make him an animated one that displays multiple AV's. ;D

[JerryM]

{QUOTE-> Are you a registered user Jerry?

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If you mean that the license is accepted, and operational, yes. I am not aware that you can use it unless you are registered, which happens during the installation and activation process.

There has been no problem with FSIS 2006 updating and the license is shown to expire in three years. I just have not been able to upgrade to 2007. When I downloaded and installed 2007 it did not accept my license.
But if there is a problem, I am at a loss as to why they do not inform me, instead of doing nothing.

Best,
Jerry

[Macstorm]

{QUOTE-> If you mean that the license is accepted, and operational, yes. I am not aware that you can use it unless you are registered, which happens during the installation and activation process.

There has been no problem with FSIS 2006 updating and the license is shown to expire in three years. I just have not been able to upgrade to 2007. When I downloaded and installed 2007 it did not accept my license.
But if there is a problem, I am at a loss as to why they do not inform me, instead of doing nothing.

Best,
Jerry <-QUOTE}
Excuse my misunderstanding, do you mean that you bought the FSIS 2007 upgrade version and they did not accept your license?

By the way, I asked you about your registration because I thought that 'poor customer support' issue you mentioned above was related to the using of trial versions.

Regards,

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[Simon6776]

Again, I can only surmise that you have been unlucky, Jerry. They have offered support for me, and I am still using an evaluation license. Although, I have to say, they have yet to find a solution to my scanning problem, they have at least replied to my emails.

I would suggest starting another support ticket, and if they complain, well, you have something to fire back with. In my opinion, they should look after 'evaluees' just as well as fully licensed users, as if the 'eveluees' receive poor support, they are not likely to fully license the product.

[JerryM]

What I bought was an OEM three year subscription with CD of FSIS 2006. It downloads, installs, and is accepted. I bought if off ebay from a seller in UK.

Now if FS does not want to support that I just want to know it, instead of being ignored. If they do not I won't jump off a cliff. I have bought OEM versions of Norton in the past with no problems as long as the license was within its time frame.
My assumption re OEM is that when FS 2007 came out those who had V 2006 sold them and did not have to install them and then update to 2007.

Not sure what else I can say. I am glad for those who have good support, but my experience has been unsatisfactory with FS.

Regards,
Jerry

[Macstorm]

Most likely their policy about OEM licenses does not allow to upgrade from that way, this would explain why they offer a FSIS 2007 upgrade version: http://www.f-secure.co.uk/home_user/buyonline/fsisupg.html

Regards,

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[JerryM]

{QUOTE-> Most likely their policy about OEM licenses does not allow to upgrade from that way, this would explain why they offer a FSIS 2007 upgrade version: http://www.f-secure.co.uk/home_user/buyonline/fsisupg.html

Regards,

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You may be correct. I have sent a second support request, and maybe I can learn what their policy is regarding OEM support.

I still like the program, and it runs well. I may have to live with the 2006 version for awhile. My current license for FS AV 2007 lasts until July 07. FWIW it did upgrade from 2006 to 2007 without problems.


Best,
Jerry

[Simon6776]

Hmm... do the actual licenses differ from retail to OEM? I'm now wondering if my OEM 2007 license will work, now that I have a non-OEM version of the program installed (which they told me to do). It's currently registered under my 2006 license, which still has 3 months to go so I thought I might as well use it. I suppose if the worst comes to the worst, I'll just have to reinstall the OEM version, when it comes to re-licensing in May.