Dr.WEB Anti-virus, Time-limited offer - February 5-28, 2007

[Malcontent]

All aboard! Dr.WEB Anti-virus for Windows + FREE Anti-spam

{QUOTE-> Time-limited offer - February 5-28, 2007

Doctor Web, Ltd. announces a special offer for users of Dr.WEB Anti-virus
for Windows
January 15, 2007 a beta version of Dr.WEB anti-spam was released. Its
official release is planned for the end of February.

Upon the release date the spam filtering function will be FREE for those
who purchase and activate a Dr.WEB Anti-virus for Windows license between
February 5 and February 28, 2007. Our new spam filtering function will be
available upon version upgrade. With this version upgrade a "Check for
spam" check box will appear in the 'SpIDer Mail Settings' window. For a
free version of Dr.WEB Anti-spam, purchase and activate a Dr.WEB
Anti-virus for Windows license at regular price until February 28. Follow
our news to learn the release date of Dr.WEB Anti-spam! <-QUOTE}http://info.drweb.com/

[C.S.J]

i dont like this email, i recieved it too.

it makes it sound like the SPAM will cost existing users when its released.

tut tut, dont think i will be paying if thats the case.

what makes me think this is:

"Doctor Web, Ltd. announces a special offer for users of Dr.WEB Anti-virus
for Windows "

and...

"the spam filtering function will be FREE for those
who purchase and activate a Dr.WEB Anti-virus for Windows license between
February 5 and February 28, 2007"

i hope this is NOT the case.

[SSK]

I wonder about this to. Will mail drweb tomorrow, see what this means for current users :)

[C.S.J]

im hoping for a dodgy russian translation :)

i'll just ask on the forum, its usually a quick reply on there.

[Badcompany]

Hi Forum,
Just sent a e-mail to drweb asking if the anti-spam program will be free for existing licence holders.
Badcompany.

[Mongol]

{QUOTE-> Hi Forum,
Just sent a e-mail to drweb asking if the anti-spam program will be free for existing licence holders.
Badcompany. <-QUOTE}

Kinda what I was wondering about, I just renewed 2 months ago. Hope to get a good reply to your email...:o ::) :blink: :)

[Badcompany]

{QUOTE-> Kinda what I was wondering about, I just renewed 2 months ago. Hope to get a good reply to your email...:o ::) :blink: :) <-QUOTE}

Will post as soon as I receive a reply.
BC.

[Badcompany]

Downloaded the anti-spam program from Vade-Retro, very nice, and no problems .Anyone else tried the program.
Badcompany.

[C.S.J]

i heard somewhere that the dr.web is only 'based' on that, and apparently the dr.web one is better than that of vade.

but it could just be hearsay.

[gates]

I think Doctor.web is going to make one big mistake if current license holders have to pay something to get spam filtering function. It's raises a question is version 5 free upgrade when it's comes out?

[Badcompany]

{QUOTE-> Will post as soon as I receive a reply.
BC. <-QUOTE}

Received a reply from drweb at 10.44am saying that the anti-spam program would be free for existing license holders,two hours later I received another e-mail saying it would be free for people purchasing drweb between the 5th and the 28 Feb. So it looks like we have to pay for it.This will not be good for the doctor.
Badcompany.

[Badcompany]

{QUOTE-> Received a reply from drweb at 10.44am saying that the anti-spam program would be free for existing license holders,two hours later I received another e-mail saying it would be free for people purchasing drweb between the 5th and the 28 Feb. So it looks like we have to pay for it.This will not be good for the doctor.
Badcompany. <-QUOTE}

Here is a screenshot of the replys.

[C.S.J]

however........

CSJ> will the new version be free for existing licence holders?
CSJ> i have a 2 year licence see,

No. It will be free only for those who will purchase and
activate license between February 5 and February 28, 2007.
See also: http://info.drweb.com/show/3015/en


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you suck Dr.Web,

who wants to buy a 2 year licence? ??? ;D :o

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whats next, pay for vista version?

pay for version 5, for the faster scanning speed and better GUI.

goddddd, bad move from dr.web, EXTREMELY BAD MOVE!

[lodore]

hey whats next pay like 3p per virus def downloads every hour?;D
lodore

[Mongol]

{QUOTE-> however........

CSJ> will the new version be free for existing licence holders?
CSJ> i have a 2 year licence see,

No. It will be free only for those who will purchase and
activate license between February 5 and February 28, 2007.
See also: http://info.drweb.com/show/3015/en


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you suck Dr.Web,

who wants to buy a 2 year licence? ??? ;D :o

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whats next, pay for vista version?

pay for version 5, for the faster scanning speed and better GUI.

goddddd, bad move from dr.web, EXTREMELY BAD MOVE! <-QUOTE}

When and if DrWEB realizes how they are shafting current license holders and especially those who very recently renewed I will reinstall DrWEB. My Panda AV 2007 license is good for two computers so it now is on both my boxes...::) >:( . I hope they think this through. Renew a 2 month old license to get Spam filtering???...get real DrWEB...:blink: :thumbd: :dry:

[Blackcat]

The Anti-Spam module would have been a nice extra for present license holders, if free.

If not free, then it will not concern me too much as my ISP does a great job of filtering out any spam and therefore the AS module is not an essential item for me.

But this Anti-Spam module may be the beginning of the Suite, as a firewall component has already been discussed over on the forum, together with the HTTP scanner, SpiderGate.

[C.S.J]

i will only pay (a small amount) to upgrade to a suite, but not to add antispam, i agree it would have been good to give licence holders something, but to charge even them, its poor.

maybe to add a small amount onto the current licence price to get some many back on it, something not many would even notice, as its for new customers, but surely existing users should get it free, people ordering it now till end of feb get it free, yet existing pay? WTF!

licence holders havnt been given much other than signatures, but with other companys not charging licence holders, this is bad for dr.web

fair enough, if they turned it all into a suite, licence holders should get a nice discount on the suite, but to charge just for this spam thing, i do wonder whats next.

i cant believe they have had even the nerve to shaft us like this, :thumbd:

[sukarof]

Personally, as a paying customer, I would like them to put some effort in and hurry up with the Vista version instead of wasting time on anti spam or spyware stuff (if they are considering doing something about the latter that is)...:/

Starting to look back at NOD32 again :)

[C.S.J]

i agree,

vista version should be most priority,

the other 4.33 release should be dropped, it should go straight to v5

everything added, no messing about.

you hear of so many av's coming out with new things yet drweb is a bit slow for product updates, sure,

i know the v5 will be great, but why soooo slow?
the argument of it being a small company only lasts for soooo long. :dry:

but still, like my vista delivery, i wait and hope for the best. ::)

[trjam]

Charging for "Spam" protection, will be a shot in the foot to their sales if they attempt it. It kills me how vendors feel that by adding a basic meaningless feature should jack the cost, just befuddles me. I guess I have to give credit to Avira for going ahead and charging a fairly high price for a AV and a firewall, and they caught hell for it, but in the end with all they plan on incorporating into it, it looks like their customers are going to get a great deal. Spider no more.>:(

[n8chavez]

{QUOTE->
But this Anti-Spam module may be the beginning of the Suite, as a firewall component has already been discussed over on the forum, together with the HTTP scanner, SpiderGate. <-QUOTE}

I hope this is not true, although I fear that it might be. I don't really see the need for every product to become a suite. I prefer to have individual applications that I can have more control over. I hope Dr Web gets it's act together. I could care less about the anti-spam module, because I use Gmail but if Dr Web went to a suite then I might seriously have to consider NOD32 again when my agust lisense is up.

[Firecat]

My license lasts till October 2008, and I sure am not going to pay to renew it at this point just to get an Anti-Spam component. Dr.Web's sales team has blundered on this issue, and it makes me take a good look at whether this company really does support its users as much as it was thought it does. :(

[C.S.J]

i wont be too bothered if they added a firewall and spam and called it a suite, but maybe charging people for the upgrade to a suite,and new GUI, faster scan speed, a totally new package.

but to charge existing users just for the spam thing, i think its ridiculous!

[likuidkewl]

Not having an included Anti-Spam is not a huge problem, I bought my key a while ago but haven't activated yet. So I am out on this one also.

In regards to the suite, if they do go the suite route I hope they still offer a stand alone version. If not, VBA will do, as it has been on my desktop. ;)

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> i wont be too bothered if they added a firewall and spam and called it a suite, but maybe charging people for the upgrade to a suite,and new GUI, faster scan speed, a totally new package.

but to charge existing users just for the spam thing, i think its ridiculous! <-QUOTE}
I think it was intended as a free upgrade until someone at the sales team decided to make some money out of it. If you look at the statements of the beta it is pretty clear that they intended the upgrade to be free.

[C.S.J]

your probably right firecat,

i was always curious why the beta would not work with my existing licence, if applied the spam would be 'greyed out'

so this implies they were always going to charge, well ... at least when the beta was released.

[Graystoke]

Never mind. :)

[Bubba]

Numerous off topic posts removed and ask that the discussion be confined to the thread topic Please.

Bubba

[Mongol]

{QUOTE-> but to charge existing users just for the spam thing, i think its ridiculous! <-QUOTE}

You are 100% correct. A good Antivirus is a must and I have always felt DrWEB is very good but spam filtering is a nice to have but not absolutely necessary frill. Heck Mozilla Thunderbird does Bayesian filtering and it's free and my free Pop Peeper program allows me to see what's coming before downloading and delete it before troubling my email program. I'm hoping for an updated message from DrWEB saying oops we goofed and yes the update will be free for our licensed customers...:o ;D

[SSK]

If you don't think anti-spam is that important, then why be bothered? We don't know yet, if and how much they will charge for the anti-spam function. :)

On a different note, a renewal this month counts for a free anti-spam as well :)

[Mongol]

{QUOTE-> If you don't think anti-spam is that important, then why be bothered? We don't know yet, if and how much they will charge for the anti-spam function. :)

On a different note, a renewal this month counts for a free anti-spam as well :) <-QUOTE}

So having renewed just two months ago renew again? And what about those who bought 2 year licenses recently, they are really left in the lurch. For now Panda has become my alternative...and Pop Peeper...:o ;D If they offer current license holders a significant discount it would be a somewhat different story but we shall wait and see eh...::) :D

[SSK]

Correct, that's the thing to do right now, wait and see! :)

[Technodrome]

It has been known for years that DrWeb has poor or clueless Marketing department and this only confirms it. If you want to charge some fee for it repack it, bump the version number and then charge the upgrade fee.


tD

[likuidkewl]

But what has to be taken into account with this is the actual cost that most people paid for Dr. Web. I know I for one got the convert price so if I were to actually have to pay for the Anti-Spam portion I might end up paying the full price, and for those who paid the full price of Dr. Web might end up paying the same price as a "main stream" antivirus application but with Spam filtering.

Just my opinion.

[Badcompany]

Received this e-mail today from drweb.
Badcompany.

[trjam]

removed, failed to see Bubbas comments above. Sorry.

[Blackcat]

Take into account that this small AV vendor nearly went under not so long ago and since this is not an in-house solution, they have to pass on some of the cost of the new licensing agreement with Goto Software. Further the present cost of the Dr Web license is low compared to other commercial AV licenses particularly with the migration fee.

As long as this AV remains a standalone product and you have the choice of whether to upgrade or not for an additional fee then I am happy as things are; IMHO, an anti-spam module is not essential.

[C.S.J]

i totally agree its not essential to have the spam, but would still be nice for licence holders, (current) to get it free.

if they wanted money from it, put up the licence fee a little, and although it will take a bit of time, with new users coming to dr.web all the time, the money from it will come, and nobody will be slagging off their marketing capabilities :D

[lodore]

the thing is antispam in suites or bundled with other secuirity software is never that good anyway so paying for that not very good antispam doesnt seem good to me.
f-secure antispam is rubbish and so is kaspersky's and most other suites.
i think companies should stop adding antispam to suites because they are never very good and use the isp filtering instead since its done at a server level and much better.
lodore

[C.S.J]

actually there are some good ones, the beta dr.web one is v.good i must say, and so is AVG's.

im not sure which out of the 2 is better, but both catch 90+% spam

[lodore]

that is good then.
its just in my expereince antispam in suites is genraly a last minute idea and not very good.
i still wouldnt pay for it thou
lodore

[SSK]

{QUOTE-> Take into account that this small AV vendor nearly went under not so long ago and since this is not an in-house solution, they have to pass on some of the cost of the new licensing agreement with Goto Software. Further the present cost of the Dr Web license is low compared to other commercial AV licenses particularly with the migration fee.

As long as this AV remains a standalone product and you have the choice of whether to upgrade or not for an additional fee then I am happy as things are; IMHO, an anti-spam module is not essential. <-QUOTE}
My sentiments exactly!

[Mongol]

I emailed the DrWEB sales staff trying to get some forthcoming answers from them about this new version. I wanted to know if a version minus the Spam blocker was going to remain available for those of us with current licenses. I also asked whether current license holders would receive a significant discount if we chose to renew and what the price might be...::) ??? :dry: :) I will advise y'all if and when they reply...8)

[Mongol]

OK I got some news back from DrWEB on the new build. No word on the renewal price yet but they will continue with DrWEB AV minus the spam filtering for those wrankled at renewing again like me...The Doctor may make a return to my other box now...:thumb: :o :D

[Blackcat]

For those interested in the new module, the new Dr.Web Anti-virus+Anti-spam is only $8 more than the standalone AV for a 1 year-license.

Details are here. (http://info.drweb.com/show/3027/en)

[C.S.J]

pfft,

i think, seen as ive lost over a month on my licence due to no vista version, and the countless undetected malware samples ive sent them (over 12,000) and the countless beta testing and reporting of errors, they should bloody give me it free.

or maybe thats me just asking for the impossible? :-\

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> pfft,

i think, seen as ive lost over a month on my licence due to no vista version, and the countless undetected malware samples ive sent them (over 12,000) and the countless beta testing and reporting of errors, they should bloody give me it free.

or maybe thats me just asking for the impossible? :-\ <-QUOTE}
Sorry, I do not think thats possible. Even I've sent hundreds of samples to Dr.Web and got very few of them actually detected.

My advice: Please send your samples to inquiry@viruschaser.com.hk . Even if you do not use Virus Chaser, my experience is that these guys are much faster in adding samples than Dr.Web has ever been. And since detection is added to the same engine, Dr.Web will detect it as well. ;)

[rayoflight]

{QUOTE-> Virus Chaser <-QUOTE}And for each undetected sample you'll get 1 additional month of subscription:)


C.S.J
Just imagine: over 12000 month for free8)

[C.S.J]

{QUOTE-> And for each undetected sample you'll get 1 additional month of subscription:)


C.S.J
Just imagine: over 12000 month for free8) <-QUOTE}
i dont like viruschaser, but sure its a thought.

[C.S.J]

hey,

this is for the DR.WEB users,

ive been told that, tomorrow MONDAY 5th feb, dr.web will announce that the SPAM will be free for existing users, who purchased their licence BEFORE 1st February 2007.

good news eh? ;D


"like my new avatar, much better eh?" ;D 8) :P

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i hope they mean what they say, sometimes there is a language barrier with the russian - english translation, but this is what they told me, only time will tell. ;D

if they clarify it more to me, i will change this post accordingly.

[MalwareDie]

Yeah your new avatar is much better. Hope all you who got your licenses before february get spam for free.

[Miyagi]

{QUOTE-> hey,
ive been told that, tomorrow MONDAY 5th feb, dr.web will announce that the SPAM will be free for existing users, who purchased their licence BEFORE 1st February 2007.

good news eh? ;D <-QUOTE}

Not really...
According to their website, current users need to buy 1 year license and get their remaining license extended.
http://info.drweb.com/show/3030/en

I don't understand why Dr.Web keeps quiet about the renewal price? Why force users to buy a new 1 year license??? It makes more sense to give the free anti-spam license till the current term and allow users to decide if they want to renew later and charge. The marketing department needs help or is this their approach to marketing?

EDIT: URL link updated

[C.S.J]

yep,

ive just been sent an email, saying i need to buy another year, even though i already a licence that wont even run out till dec 2009, and unless i do that, i wont get the SPAM.

THIS IS POOR DR.WEB!

[Malcontent]

{QUOTE-> yep,

ive just been sent an email, saying i need to buy another year, even though i already a licence that wont even run out till dec 2009, and unless i do that, i wont get the SPAM.

THIS IS POOR DR.WEB! <-QUOTE}

You and Miyagi beat me to this. I posted this in a serperate thread before I found you posts.

[Firecat]

My license only expires in late 2008. Like hell I'm going to renew it now.....

Very bad of Dr.Web, this is. They will only lose customers by such methods.

[Mongol]

You can still use DrWEB without the Anti-Spam with your current license. They still have a download link for it on the website. It still stinks though, free Anti-Spam but you have to renew to get it...:thumbd: :dry:

[Mongol]

{QUOTE-> hey,

this is for the DR.WEB users,

ive been told that, tomorrow MONDAY 5th feb, dr.web will announce that the SPAM will be free for existing users, who purchased their licence BEFORE 1st February 2007.

good news eh? ;D


"like my new avatar, much better eh?" ;D 8) :P

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i hope they mean what they say, sometimes there is a language barrier with the russian - english translation, but this is what they told me, only time will tell. ;D


if they clarify it more to me, i will change this post accordingly. <-QUOTE}

C.S.J., did you mean March 5th and have you heard anymore on this?...??? ;D

[C.S.J]

nope mongol,

they chose their words very carefully, and did not mention the 1 year we all have to buy to get it free, so they didnt lie, nor did they really tell the truth. ::)

my question to them would be, if my licence doesnt run out till dec 2009, why would i need to buy another year to get the spam?

plus, damn i love my new avatar, not bad vista PAINT. haha :D

its a bit disconcerning how people will leave dr.web for the latest test result, or how they will leave them for this spam issue with the year renewal needed, i will keep the faith though and stick with the doctor, they need loyal customers :D

[Miyagi]

Guys, you can try the anti-spam for free if you are current user. You do NOT have to buy now. I was just informed by them of this URL: http://support.drweb.com/faq/a17/#8

Scroll all the way to the bottom of the page.

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Can I use Dr.WEB demo-version with anti-spam if I am currently a registered user of Dr.WEB Anti-virus for Windows?

1. Copy your current license key file for Dr.WEB Anti-virus for Windows into a safe location.
2. Download distribution of Dr.WEB for Windows – Anti-virus + Anti-spam and install it over the already installed Dr.WEB Anti-virus for Windows".
3. Right click the spider icon in the system tray and Choose “Register”. During the registration procedure, choose "Get demo key file". Demo key for version with anti-spam will be downloaded and installed automatically.
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So indeed we can use it for a trial purposes. Trial time is unspecified at the moment. :)

[Miyagi]

FYI: They have also updated that particular news.
http://info.drweb.com/show/3030/en

See the last paragraph.

[C.S.J]

Miyagi,

your first link makes it sound as though users with a current licence can just download and install the spam version, and its working.......WITH SPAM.

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however, the 2nd link you provided, asks for the purchase of another year, and to submit the licence to them.

which is right, i dont know.... dr.web need to make this CLEAR to users.

[Miyagi]

Basically, the company offers TRIAL for the AV/Anti-Spam software. Current users who wants to try can use the link above. If they want to purchase, they get an extended license period.

[C.S.J]

it doesnt add up,

i know dr.web is fairly priced, but why should i buy another year to get the spam when my licence doesnt even expire till dec 2009, why do they need the added year? is it loyality they are looking for, someone to stay with them a while or something, it just doesn't make any sense to me, AT ALL. :wacko:

[Miyagi]

It's their marketing standard. It would be nice if they can give us 1-2 months free anti-spam but I guess the license file becomes another whole new issue. It seems like they cannot incorporate a free trial within your current license file unless you purchase a new one or use the trial license key.

From my personal experience, the news was not misleading. They mentioned the free trial which it was my fault of ignorance.

[C.S.J]

i have no problem buying another year of dr.web onto my 2 year left, but the question i ponder on, is why i have to buy another year.

but i wont do it till a vista version is ready, ive already lost a month on my licence, refund? i doubt 100%..... :wacko: