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Defcon
January 29th, 2007, 10:29 PM
I need to install an antivirus program on my parents computer. They do not have unlimited downloads so the size of signature updates is a critical factor, otherwise they will go over the limit and have to pay a lot. The other things which would be nice are -
- ease of use - set and forget without any prompts
- good security
- cost
I had installed Avira (AntiVir) since I am very happy with it, but the daily updates are huge (usually 3MB or more) and thus it is not acceptable. Do the other free alternatives like Avast have smaller updates? What about KAV?
I also don't want them to use a HIPS as it invariable leads to numerous prompts which the non technical user has no hope of understanding. Because of this I think a regular signature based product is the better choice, but I am willing to change my approach if its wrong.
FastGame
January 29th, 2007, 11:21 PM
When it comes to update speed & lightness IMO Avast is one of the best.
n8chavez
January 29th, 2007, 11:34 PM
I'd go with Dr Web. It has the smallest updates I've seen, the product itself is very small. Also, it is a lot cheaper that AVAST. Be ready for version 5.
dah145
January 29th, 2007, 11:35 PM
You could try KAV without PDM (Many Pop-ups) or any other unnecessary module you want when installing it, also the updates are about 50 to 100 kb... hourly. :thumb:
FastGame
January 29th, 2007, 11:41 PM
-{ Quote: "I'd go with Dr Web. It has the smallest updates I've seen, the product itself is very small. Also, it is a lot cheaper that AVAST. Be ready for version 5." }-
Avast Home is free, how much cheaper than free is Dr Web ::)
n8chavez
January 30th, 2007, 12:51 AM
-{ Quote: "Avast Home is free, how much cheaper than free is Dr Web ::)" }-
Well obviously if you are talking about AVAST HE then Dr Web is not going to be cheaper. But I prefer the pro version to the free version, and, taking that into account, Dr Web is cheaper. Then is also a very drastic difference between the resource usage of AVAST (what ever version) and Dr. Web. Dr Web is extremely light and updates of weekends, which I cannot say for very many companies.
vhick
January 30th, 2007, 01:00 AM
is avast is heavy on resource than dr. web?
n8chavez
January 30th, 2007, 01:06 AM
-{ Quote: "is avast is heavy on resource than dr. web?" }-
In my experience nearly every AV, with the possible exception of KAV 6, is heavier than Dr Web. And it certainly takes up the least amount of hard drive space. Dr Web is the lightest I've seen.
Mele20
January 30th, 2007, 02:11 AM
-{ Quote: "
I had installed Avira (AntiVir) since I am very happy with it, but the daily updates are huge (usually 3MB or more) and thus it is not acceptable. Do the other free alternatives like Avast have smaller updates? What about KAV?
" }-
I have had aVira for three weeks and during that time 15 daily updates have been UNDER 200KB and many of those were under 100KB. There has been 1 at 279KB, 1 at 326KB, 1 at 402KB, 1 at 841KB, 1 at 952KB and 1 at 3.16MB which was the scanning engine upgrade.
You and I must have different aViras as I have only seen ONE large update in THREE WEEKS and that was because it was an engine upgrade.
aVira issues some of the smallest updates I've ever seen...it takes about 3 seconds to get on cable modem at 5ms down but I would use this AV on dialup. On dialup I would have suffered with the 952KB and 3.16MB but not the others.
lodore
January 30th, 2007, 04:36 AM
i put antivir premium on my sister's laptop.
its running great.
i told it to update hourly
run a scan weekly
and first option repair virus second option qurantine.
so its set and forget now.
lodore
Malcontent
January 30th, 2007, 05:59 AM
Dr. Web updates are around 15k in size. Dr. Web is very light and well behaved. It cost $28US for one year. It cost cost $20 to renew. Dr. Web updates flawlessy several times a day. Version 5 is on the horizon, which promises even better detection, faster scanning speed and improved GUI.
MaB69
January 30th, 2007, 06:12 AM
-{ Quote: "In my experience nearly every AV, with the possible exception of KAV 6, is heavier than Dr Web. And it certainly takes up the least amount of hard drive space. Dr Web is the lightest I've seen." }-
Hi all,
I think that you never tried NOD
Incremental update, good security but may be a graphical user interface sometimes difficult to use
Sorry for my bad english
MaB
n8chavez
January 30th, 2007, 08:25 AM
-{ Quote: "Hi all,
I think that you never tried NOD
Incremental update, good security but may be a graphical user interface sometimes difficult to use
Sorry for my bad english
MaB" }-
HA!! You've haven't been around here for very long, have you? I've used every AV there is and, with the exception of Dr Web, I have used NOD the longest (around 2 years). It is a good product. It has gotten heavier with the release of version 2.7. Also, I have had filtering issues with IMON, as have many. So, I chose to go with Dr Web. But you never know; if Dr Web drops the ball with version 5 I might revisit NOD. For know I'm in the Doctor's waiting room.
JimIT
January 30th, 2007, 12:50 PM
-{ Quote: "I need to install an antivirus program on my parents computer. They do not have unlimited downloads so the size of signature updates is a critical factor,
- ease of use - set and forget without any prompts
- good security
- cost" }-
Based on the above criteria, I would recommend Avast! Home Edition.
1. Default install is fine for most users.
2. It has a good mixture of protection for many vectors of infection.
3. It's free.
4. It's updates are miniscule, and work great w/limited bandwidth.
Barring Avast!, I would go with F-PROT, based on cost, protection, and size of updates.
C.S.J
January 30th, 2007, 03:57 PM
yayyyy a thread that DRWEB WINS!!!!!
15k ---MAX for updates, even the first update will take only take a few seconds.
perfect for dialup users, 9mb to download, 9-12mb needed on your harddrive.
thats it ;D
lodore
January 30th, 2007, 04:40 PM
lets hope version 5 doesnt get heaver and just has a nicer gui and keeps it geood points and keeps improving.
i will be waiting.
lodore
MaB69
January 30th, 2007, 05:07 PM
-{ Quote: "Well obviously if you are talking about AVAST HE then Dr Web is not going to be cheaper. But I prefer the pro version to the free version, and, taking that into account, Dr Web is cheaper. Then is also a very drastic difference between the resource usage of AVAST (what ever version) and Dr. Web. Dr Web is extremely light and updates of weekends, which I cannot say for very many companies." }-
Hi n8chavez,
I was joking because i know that you tried NOD and had issues with this AV
You can trust me when i say that NOD32 is the lighter AV that i ever used (i tried DrWeb, Antivir, Avast, BD, Kaspersky...)
Different men ( or comp) Different stories ;D
MaB
pipester
January 30th, 2007, 05:10 PM
AVG, out of the box default settings provide good protection. Small, efficient updates.
n8chavez
January 30th, 2007, 05:17 PM
-{ Quote: "Hi n8chavez,
I was joking because i know that you tried NOD and had issues with this AV
You can trust me when i say that NOD32 is the lighter AV that i ever used (i tried DrWeb, Antivir, Avast, BD, Kaspersky...)
Different men ( or comp) Different stories ;D
MaB" }-
Agreed. There are definetley advantages to Dr Web over NOD32 and vice versa. Dr Web has a post-scanning memory issue, NOD32 does not. NOD32 will never use above 21 meg of ram Dr Web fluctuates, and is lighter in terms of numbers, without SpiderGuard. But to each his own. Here's hoping v5 is all the good and none of the bad.
MalwareDie
January 31st, 2007, 12:11 AM
-{ Quote: "
I had installed Avira (AntiVir) since I am very happy with it, but the daily updates are huge (usually 3MB or more) " }-
Updates shouldn't be that large unless you have an old version of Avira.
The Hammer
January 31st, 2007, 12:53 AM
-{ Quote: "I need to install an antivirus program on my parents computer. They do not have unlimited downloads so the size of signature updates is a critical factor, otherwise they will go over the limit and have to pay a lot. The other things which would be nice are -
- ease of use - set and forget without any prompts
- good security
- cost
I had installed Avira (AntiVir) since I am very happy with it, but the daily updates are huge (usually 3MB or more) and thus it is not acceptable. Do the other free alternatives like Avast have smaller updates? What about KAV?
I also don't want them to use a HIPS as it invariable leads to numerous prompts which the non technical user has no hope of understanding. Because of this I think a regular signature based product is the better choice, but I am willing to change my approach if its wrong." }-NOD can be a set and forget Av when set up for a totally silent scan. You should go through the tutorial from the beginning though. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=37509
lodore
January 31st, 2007, 01:11 PM
very true nod32 can be a set and forget av.
kav/kis6.0 should be more silent when the pdm white list comes in.
lodore
Kees1958
February 1st, 2007, 11:27 AM
Hi,
Kind of cheeky apprach:
Buy defensewall = NO pop ups (provides safety for Internet, P2P, mail, etc)
See the tests of DW, provides 95% protection on all treath gates. Alternative is Norman Sandbox (see what it claims to envision the strength of sandboxes like DW or NormanSandbox)
Install cyberhawk free, as a kind of safety net behind DW for all programs. displays only pop-ups when anomolies occur (so it is easy to instruct you parents never to choose allow always). If you would like to be convinced of the strenght od behavorial protection have a look at Sana Security's Safe Connect (a paid alternative to CyberHawk)
Harden with SafeXP and SpywareBlaster, enable DEP for all programs
When you definitly want a Antivirus buy NOD32, with the advanced heuristics yo could lower the update frequency of the signature data base
Peronally I would opt for DefenseWall and Sana Security in your parents situation and forget about a traditional Antivirus.
tsilo
February 1st, 2007, 04:22 PM
Dr.Web have small updates because updates only contains about 5-10 sighatures, sometimes 1-2. so for security I think it's not good.
I recomended Avast!, Nod32, or Antivir PE. Nod32 also have small updates.
lodore
February 1st, 2007, 04:31 PM
-{ Quote: "Dr.Web have small updates because updates only contains about 5-10 sighatures, sometimes 1-2. so for security I think it's not good.
I recomended Avast!, Nod32, or Antivir PE. Nod32 also have small updates." }-
quote from dr web website "Only 25 minutes are required for an update to be made available for the Dr.Web world-wide users - this is the time to carry out a comprehensive internal testing of a new add-on"
the signitsure rate per the small updates is low but if they do updates as fast as they say then its not a problem.
these days i try to get the facts before posting;D
lodore
tsilo
February 1st, 2007, 04:49 PM
I tested Dr.Web and I noticed they add about 20-30 signatures douring day, I think it's not good. Any way updates will small if it's contains few signatures.
C.S.J
February 1st, 2007, 05:51 PM
once again you dont know what your talking about,
6368 entries were added to Dr.Web virus database in January, 2007
yes they are only 15kb, this is not a bad thing, they compress them very well for a 1 second download, even dialup users will only have to wait 3 seconds.
20-30 signatures a day just doesnt add up eh tsilo?
and 2-6 signatures a day doesnt either.....
The Hammer
February 1st, 2007, 10:02 PM
-{ Quote: "I tested Dr.Web and I noticed they add about 20-30 signatures douring day, I think it's not good. Any way updates will small if it's contains few signatures." }-Give it up. Quit while your still behind. :P
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