ZAP/ZASS 7.0.302.000

[Perman]

Hi, folks: Just notice that the new release. Is it still a beta or final? anyone ?

[pvsurfer]

-{ Quote: "Hi, folks: Just notice that the new release. Is it still a beta or final? anyone ?" }-
Beta - for sure. ;)

[Legendkiller]

Beta stage is over..this is the final release...ZA is going to update their website on monday..

[Chubb]

I think it is final, since the file is already on the official server, but release history not yet released, maybe Monday. The download path indicated that it is the final version.

Pro version

http://download.zonelabs.com/bin/free/1043_zl/zapSetup_70_302_000_en.exe

Security Suite

http://download.zonelabs.com/bin/free/1043_zl/zaSuiteSetup_70_302_000_en.exe

[henryg]

Here is a quote from Z.A's beta forum:

""We are officially done with BETA 7. It will be released on our website late Monday. Even though it can be found on MajorGeeks.com, PLEASE DO NOT DOWNLOAD, as it is NOT OFFICIAL. The version could change at any time because of major bugs.""

[QBgreen]

I haven't run any ZA product for some time, so I decided to try out the new ZA with AntiVirus version 7. Being that it's utilizing Kaspersky's engine along with the triple firewall only, it seemed to be a good choice for me. Installation went very well, and the program seems to be performing smoothly on my machine. I did the usual eicar test, and it was picked up upon scanning, not on access. So far, I'd say it certainly rates better than any of the 6.5xx releases.

[twl845]

It begins,,,,,,,,,,,,

[dwax]

Has anyone tried the new ZA Pro? I'm scared to try ;D

[Banshee]

QbGreen,

you wrote:
-{ Quote: "Being that it's utilizing Kaspersky's engine along with the triple firewall only,...[snip]" }-So they are using kaspersky's engine for the Av ?- What do they use for the antispyware ?

I am not sure what a triple firewall is.Could you please elaborate ?


Thanks

[lucas1985]

-{ Quote: "I am not sure what a triple firewall is.Could you please elaborate ?" }-
It is marketing from Zone Labs ;)
-Network firewall = packet filter.
-Application firewall = outbond control.
-OS firewall = tampering/leak control.

[Banshee]

so they are not using somebody else's firewall ? I ownder if it's any good ::)

[WSFuser]

anyone know if this latest v7 works on Vista?

[gre87y]

No it doesn't work with Vista

[lucas1985]

-{ Quote: "so they are not using somebody else's firewall ? I ownder if it's any good ::)" }-
It´s technology from CheckPoint (Zone Labs´ parent company)
Don´t worry, "triple firewall" is their marketing buzzword. Almost all today´s firewalls have the same functions.

[twl845]

DWAX - Just remember what I am saying. Wait 3 or 4 weeks AFTER the release, and keep checking their forum, under "install/upgrade" section. If you don't see hundreds of posts wailing and gnashing their teeth because of disastrous problems, install it. ;D

[Rasheed187]

I don´t know why they didn´t change the new shitty skin, I would like to use my old skin. Other than this it´s mostly the same, and I wonder if they fixed certain holes reported by Matousec, isn´t there a changelog? ::)

[dwax]

-{ Quote: "I don´t know why they didn´t change the new shitty skin, I would like to use my old skin. Other than this it´s mostly the same, and I wonder if they fixed certain holes reported by Matousec, isn´t there a changelog? ::)" }-


You can change the skins,go to Preferences, Options and select a new skin. :)

[Banshee]

I just checked their site but I found nothing re: what antivirus+ antispyware they use.


Any useful link ?

thanks

[lucas1985]

They are migrated from CA VET engine to KAV engine.

[Perman]

-{ Quote: "DWAX - Just remember what I am saying. Wait 3 or 4 weeks AFTER the release, and keep checking their forum, under "install/upgrade" section. If you don't see hundreds of posts wailing and gnashing their teeth because of disastrous problems, install it. ;D" }-
Hi, folks: I concur your statement, which is, IMO, an analogy to US/CANADA auto owners' attitude towards GM,FORD and CHRYSLER(all in US/CANADA). That is NEVER buy the first year's production of any new model made by these three. Recalls, disbutes and class action suit(years later as result of first year production) are common. These American giant companies are often run by marketing -oriented high IQ,low ITQ people, they manage their jobs by achievements, namely shoot first,as many as possible, and then aim. Having said that, these companies still need some volunteers to test the water. It all depends on that whether you will be one of those commandoes. Just for your tea time materials or bed time story.:)

[tazdevl]

ZL has a history of not getting it close to right for about 4 revs after the initial release of a new platform. Save yourself some sanity and wait.

Granted, I think they've gotten much better since they opened the betas up publicly.

[Legendkiller]

well za pro is working fine on my pc....but za security suite caused very slow start-ups mainly due to kaspersky's av....

At start-up a process"scanningprocess.exe" is running two instances and taking 32k memory!!!

[apm]

ZAAV already disabled on-sccess scanning still 2 "scanningprocess.exe" running, and no connection at all sometimes, like my system is sending request but can't go outside, plus system slower.

[Legendkiller]

-{ Quote: "ZAAV already disabled on-sccess scanning still 2 "scanningprocess.exe" running, and no connection at all sometimes, like my system is sending request but can't go outside, plus system slower." }-
those two instances of "scanningprocess.exe" will not go until you remove za with antivirus..if you want the firewall only than go for za-pro..

I have un-installed both za-pro and zass cause they are making the start-ups very-very slow...

[Banshee]

-{ Quote: "snip....

I have un-installed both za-pro and zass cause they are making the start-ups very-very slow..." }-


worse than F-secure IS ?

[Perman]

Hi, folks: For ZA pro alone, has it had any significant improvements or anything new worth mentioning vs. v.6.5.737 ?:)

[RAV]

Running this build of ZA Antivirus 7 and it seems to be running well. Seems like a pretty good deal to me to get ZA firewall along with the Kaspersky engine AV for only $20. It has all the features I need and the AV even has extended database support. I had been running NOD32 and ZAAS but my NOD32 is about to expire so I think I will change from the ZA with Antispyware to the one with AV. I will compliment it with the free Windows Defender since I use Firefox and spyware has been a non-issue with me for quite some time now.

[TopperID]

-{ Quote: "It´s technology from CheckPoint (Zone Labs´ parent company)
Don´t worry, "triple firewall" is their marketing buzzword. Almost all today´s firewalls have the same functions." }-
No they don't!

The triple FW refers to blocking incomimng and outgoing connections together with a third element - the Operating System FW - which is an IDS or behaviour blocking feature. It prevents access to physical memory, spawning of processes by other processes with lower priviledges etc. etc. Check the user manual for further details.

BTW - to the person who tested with Eicar and found it detected with a scan but not realtime - KAV, by default, does not scan within archives realtime.

[Banshee]

Hi,


I installed ZASS on another pc here to see how it performs. I can't see a http scanner option tho. Kav has a http scanner.. am I missing something ?

[TopperID]

-{ Quote: "Hi,


I installed ZASS on another pc here to see how it performs. I can't see a http scanner option tho. Kav has a http scanner.. am I missing something ?" }-
KAV 6 has a web-shield, but this feature is not included with the ZASS version.

[Banshee]

Ok, Thanks:thumb:

[Legendkiller]

is anybody else experiencing slow start-ups with ZASS?

[Chubb]

-{ Quote: "anyone know if this latest v7 works on Vista?" }-

Vista support was not mentioned in the beta release notes. I would suspect that Vista is still not yet supported in the final release.

[ashishtx]

I am not impressed at all with this beta. Slow system startups creates a very bad impression.
Instead of this security suite, i would go with KAV 6.0 and zonealarm pro 5.5 which was excellent.

[nicknicknick]

-{ Quote: "is anybody else experiencing slow start-ups with ZASS?" }-

Do you also have a problem with ZLCLIENT.EXE not properly shutting down?

[lucas1985]

-{ Quote: "No they don't!

The triple FW refers to blocking incomimng and outgoing connections together with a third element - the Operating System FW - which is an IDS or behaviour blocking feature. It prevents access to physical memory, spawning of processes by other processes with lower priviledges etc. etc. Check the user manual for further details." }-
I don´t think that ZA have a IDS. Their "OS firewall" isn´t different from any firewall that have protection against tampering.

[WSFuser]

-{ Quote: "Vista support was not mentioned in the beta release notes. I would suspect that Vista is still not yet supported in the final release." }-
i thought it was worth asking. perhaps at the end of this month there will be something?

[QBgreen]

OK, I've had ZAAV 7.0.302.000 running for a day and a half. For me, quick bootups and shutdowns. The AV component is self updating every three hours without troubles. I've had no funky interaction difficulties with any of my programs, net accessible or otherwise. So far the only gripe that I have is the fact that I can't fine tune the AV component as I'd like. At the risk of eating my words later, it looks like this release may be the best since the 5.5xx series.

[Woody777]

I assume that ZAlarm is Chargeing for this update. I would wait a few weeks before I jump right in to avoid the disasters that others have had with new ZoneAlarm products in the past. That being said if the main reason someone wants to update this suite is to use Kapersky why not look at some of the deals offered by major retailers( at least in the USA ) & buy KIS for zero. I just saw some of these ads this week. I still think that ZAlarm Pro is an outstanding product as a firewall. The triple defense does a really nice job of advising you of Software doing something to your computer . I really don't know if its HIPS but it does the job for me. 6.5 did have a less than stellar Spyware detection engine & I think the CA engine was only ok. If someone really wants to use Kapersky than why use a rebranded version ( and changed?) The firewall however was unquestionably Superior to many others & that what ZAlarm is known for! So I would wait before I changed.

[twl845]

Woody777 - If you are upgrading from a previous version that you have a registration for, the upgrade to ver. 7 is free. Of course if you are doing a new installation of 7 it'll be the going rate. :)

[Woody777]

Ok I can probably get the update. However I do use NOD32. Do you think I can turn off Kapersky & use NOD 32?

[twl845]

Yeah you can disable the AV and use NOD32, but I can't see paying for ZAP and then turning half of it off. I would use the free ZA and NOD. The free is good. ( If the new version is) ;D

[Banshee]

Oh well, I had it on my other pc for 1 hour or so.I ditched it.

[twl845]

Woody777 - I found that Comodo and NOD work well together.;D

[Woody777]

I can understand your point of view but I really like the triple defense firewall & the free version doesn't have that nor does it have a bunch of other things that the pro version has. The spyware portion probably also has been improved. Have you used KAV? I assume the antivirus is just as good but does it stop spyware? I suppose I could try it & find out. I've used NOD32 for years & am very happy with it. I don't mind paying for the best products no matter what they are. There are sure a bunch of people in this forum who really like KAV I admit but sometimes changeing something that works results in complications.

[twl845]

As far as the anti spyware goes, I'll bet you have at least 2 anti spyware apps on your pc now. The ZA anti spyware is probably not as good as those. It wasn't when I used it. It probably only caught 2 or 3 data miners in the few years I used it. I'm not familiar with KAV, but it seems to be a good AV. However, we know that NOD32 is a great one already, and it's already on your pc. What exactly is the triple in triple defense? I used the free version for a few years before I went to ZASS, and it did the job as well I thought.
Not to change the subject, but Comodo is working on a new version with HIPS and sandbox. I can't imagine it getting any better than it is.

[WSFuser]

@Woody777 - ZAP does not have teh antivirus component, so theres nothing to turn off.

@twl845 - "triple" refers to the following aspects of ZA: inbound protection, outbound protection, and anti-leak (also called OSFirewall in ZA).

[twl845]

WSfuser - Thanks. Then it's just like Comodo. (free)

[Woody777]

I do actually have the ZA Suite. If I did abandon ZA I would probably use Sygate Pro with SSM & spyware terminator. I've never tried Comodo. It probably would work also but there would be a learning curve.

[dallen]

I've been very happy with the latest version of Zone Alarm Security Suite (6.5.737.000). However, I am looking forward to the new version 7. I've read this thread and there seems to be an unanswered question about compatibilty with Vista. I don't know if this will answer the question, exactly, but here is some information on the Zone Labs site:

http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/catalog/products/vista.jsp?lid=home_vista

[TopperID]

-{ Quote: "I don´t think that ZA have a IDS. Their "OS firewall" isn´t different from any firewall that have protection against tampering." }-
The following is a list of suspicious 'behaviour' that ZA's OS FW protects against, are you really saying other FWs do all this:-

1) Modifications of the Startup directory;

2) Modification of browser search defaults;

3) Modification of browser page defaults;

4) Unloading of driver;

5) Transmission of Dynamic Data Exchange input;

6) Sending Windows messages;

7) A program trying to kill another program;

8 ) Invoking open process/thread (ie a program trying to control another program);

9) Monitoring keyboard and mouse input;

10) Remote control of keyboard and mouse input;

11) Installation of driver;

12) Modification of physical memory;

13) Injection of code into a program or system service;

14) Modifying network parameters (ie changing network settings);

15) Launching an unknown or bad program from a good one;

16) Modification of Registry settings;

17) Deletion of a run key;

18 ) Modification of ZA program.

[Woody777]

Yes thats impressive>
do you think the average user will want to put up with all the alerts or even worse will they be confused. Anyway does KAV protect against spyware? What did they do to the Anti spyware portion of this suite.

[twl845]

Woody777 - If you go to the Comodo site and navigate it looking at the screen shots and such, you get the false impression that it is complicated. I investigated Comodo in fear for about a month mostly at their forum, and was assured by users that I could set it up to operate automatically like ZA. I took a chance and installed it, which was really simple, and there literally is no learning curve to set it up. I clicked a radio button so it would recognize my system and not bother me with pop ups for existing apps, and it was in the learning mode by default. Done. After you've got it running, you can take your time and check out the different modes. I've got it for a few months now and I don't know too much more than when I started except it's alot like ZA except for the layout. I don't think it has any more pop ups than ZA, and it's light on its feet. ;D

[ink]

Zap maybe is better at smart answer and system firewall, for those choose kav+zap 5, I think KIS6 is better.

[Woody777]

Ok I will think about this. I suppose if I can control old Sygate I could make a firewall do anything. You could be right about this but then I would have to uninstall ZA & thats something to do with caution. Anyway ZoneAlarm & NOD32 are working perfectly together. I don't really need any other spyware protection with NOD32 but I do have A2 & AVG antispyware plus firefox with no script. I just don't think I should do this for no good reason.

[apm]

ZAAS block www.pcflank.com saying its spy site, is this reasonable?

and there is no exclusion option :(

[henryg]

Zone Alarm Pro (v. 6.5.737.000) had failed PC Flank's leak test. So now it looks like in the new version (7.0.302.000), they have added "pcflank.com" in their "spy site blocking" list (Anti-spyware setting). It doesn't make sense.... to avoid the leak test....they just block the whole site? Well that's not good....

[Perman]

Hi, folks: Interesting, out of curiosity, I clicked the PC Flank's link, and it is blocked, by what? ZASS v.6.5.737 ? which is the only firewall installed here. Did not know until now.::)

[TopperID]

It has always been blocked, due to an error, but if you give it access (with a left click) it will no longer be blocked.

[Perman]

Hi, folks: You are right. After click, the road is clear. Thanks. TopperID, have a nice one.:)

[henryg]

-{ Quote: "It has always been blocked, due to an error, but if you give it access (with a left click) it will no longer be blocked." }-

Just did that. And guess what....The new version of Z.A. Pro has failled PCFlank's leak test. No wonder why they are trying to block that website.....

[Perman]

Hi, folks: My copy of v.6.5.737 has also failed PC Flank's antileak test. But something is very interesting; PC Flank also made such a statement: Only two products have passed its test, so far. They are Tiny Firewall 2005 and Outpost Firewall pro (no version has been mentioned). So.... what does this tell us? ??? Outdated ?or insufficient?

[TopperID]

Most FWs fail that leak test. It's not important at the moment because it is 'proof of concept'; there is no evidence that malware actually uses this technique. However I expect ZA will plug the breach in due course, just to please those who are worried about it.

The recent KAV 6 MP1 release does stop the leak, but that only applies to the PDM in KAV 6 which the new ZASS does not have (it is only using the KAV engine - not the whole of KAV).

[fred128]

TOPPERID,
What does only using the KAV engine in ZA mean? Aren't they going to use KAV's signature files and heuristics?

[lucas1985]

-{ Quote: "TOPPERID,
What does only using the KAV engine in ZA mean? Aren't they going to use KAV's signature files and heuristics?" }-
He is saying that ZA has only licensed the AV engine. They use the whole engine -heuristics, extended database (?)- but not the behaviour blocker (PDM) which may generate conflicts with ZA´s OS firewall.

[fred128]

Well, if it's only behavior that will not be in the security suite, one could use Cyberhawk. Still, it should be a pretty solid product.

[apm]

-{ Quote: "ZAAV already disabled on-sccess scanning still 2 "scanningprocess.exe" running, and no connection at all sometimes, like my system is sending request but can't go outside, plus system slower." }-

the no connection problem maybe caused by enable ARP protection in Firewall>main>advanced, cause untick it i have no connection back.

[dah145]

-{ Quote: "The following is a list of suspicious 'behaviour' that ZA's OS FW protects against, are you really saying other FWs do all this:-

1) Modifications of the Startup directory;

2) Modification of browser search defaults;

3) Modification of browser page defaults;

4) Unloading of driver;

5) Transmission of Dynamic Data Exchange input;

6) Sending Windows messages;

7) A program trying to kill another program;

8 ) Invoking open process/thread (ie a program trying to control another program);

9) Monitoring keyboard and mouse input;

10) Remote control of keyboard and mouse input;

11) Installation of driver;

12) Modification of physical memory;

13) Injection of code into a program or system service;

14) Modifying network parameters (ie changing network settings);

15) Launching an unknown or bad program from a good one;

16) Modification of Registry settings;

17) Deletion of a run key;

18 ) Modification of ZA program." }-


KIS has all of that except for number 7, :thumb:

[Tod]

Can be killed by Advanced Process Termination 4 (http://www.diamondcs.com.au/index.php?page=apt), Kernel Kill 2 kills vsmon.exe which brings down the firewall. Passes the other kill methods.

Fails all 5 tests by Anti-Keylogger Tester (http://www.firewallleaktester.com/aklt.htm).

[DVD+R]

:thumbd: Installed ZoneAlarm Pro 7 today to see what it was all about :blink: No difference at all , Its just a Number nothing else instead of 6 its now 7:gack: And it still takes a bloody eternity to load when booting up nearly 40 damn seconds on the welcome screen, That is just no good whatsoever. So much for all the excitement about this long awaited update

[TopperID]

-{ Quote: "KIS has all of that except for number 7, :thumb:" }-
Yes but KIS 6 is not just a FW, it is a suite that also includes the PDM of KAV 6; that is why it covers those things.

BTW - the most important changes in the latest version of ZAP only really cover improvements to the Spyware scanner.
-{ Quote: "New and improved ZoneAlarm Pro version 7.0.302.000

Product set-up process has been redesigned and shortened.
A pre-scan has been added to the start wizard that scans the user's PC for program files, compares programs with ZoneAlarm's SmartDefense Advisor database, and applies policy to said programs, both legitimate and malicious.
The UI has been refreshed, with new ZoneAlarm/Check Point branding.
Anti-spyware has been improved for better discovery and cleaning.
The spyware update system has been improved for reliability and responsiveness. " }-

[Perman]

Hi, folks: within ZASS 7.0.302, beside the new AV engine, the new AUTO-LEARN feature seems worth some attention. Is it really new? or just rebranded from elsewhere. Can someone share your findings? With v.7 's launch, it could spell out the final days of ZoneLabs( the name only). Two things are noticeable, Icon(shape and colour). And the official name of Zone Alarm, now is called ZA by Check point. From business pt.of view, you do not change your so-called trade mark, unless it is very much necessary. Just few observations.:)

[SoCalReviews]

I installed the new ZASS 7.0.302.000 yesterday (updated from ZASS 6.5.737) on my Notebook (1Ghz PIII w/512 RAM and shared video memory) and it works great. I also use ZASS (but with real time AV component and IMSecurity disabled) and NOD32 2.7 on my 2Ghz AMD Athlon XP based CPU desktop system along with some additional anti-spyware programs.

[henryg]

-{ Quote: ":thumbd: Installed ZoneAlarm Pro 7 today to see what it was all about :blink: No difference at all , Its just a Number nothing else instead of 6 its now 7:gack: And it still takes a bloody eternity to load when booting up nearly 40 damn seconds on the welcome screen, That is just no good whatsoever. So much for all the excitement about this long awaited update" }-


Couldn't have said it better myself. ;) Since the take over by CheckPoint, Zone Alarm is not what it used to be. Nowdays, they are providing you with patches to fix other patches.

[DVD+R]

Besides my previous post, I forgot to Add that I tried several methods to get it to load quickly. this is what I had to do, to reduce the welcome screen wait time ,which was 40 seconds,and an extra 30 seconds on just blank desktop, before the other programs even started to load :blink: So in reality it took nearly 3 minutes from rebooting before I could use my computer >:( So I uninstalled it, Installed 6.1 and this started up almost immediately. BUT! when I clicked check for updates it said it was still 6.5 :blink: So after upgrading to 6.5 I then checked again,and only this time it said it was up to date :blink: So then I downloaded the trial from zone labs, and upgraded that way ::) HUGE! if not MASSIVE upgrading problems, and as I said before there really is no difference,The only thing I found that did work, was the Hotmail Login issue, other than that I thought F*** IT! and threw it out. Good thing I have Rollback Rx to jump back to my Other Snapshot :dry:

[twl845]

This is the every day stories from ZA. It's the reason why after 3 years I too said ***K it because it's crazy that customers should have to subject themselves to such measures to make their software work. It goes to show how loyal ZA customers were that they would screw around trying to fix problems for so long. I will never go back. It's not worth taking the chance. Every time you upgrade it's a crap shoot. There are people still using version 5.5 or earlier because they're afraid to upgrade. I am using Comodo and have no problems.

[Rilla927]

-{ Quote: "This is the every day stories from ZA. It's the reason why after 3 years I too said ***K it because it's crazy that customers should have to subject themselves to such measures to make their software work. It goes to show how loyal ZA customers were that they would screw around trying to fix problems for so long. I will never go back. It's not worth taking the chance. Every time you upgrade it's a crap shoot. There are people still using version 5.5 or earlier because they're afraid to upgrade. I am using Comodo and have no problems." }- I agree a 110%.

I love ZA Pro FW, paid for it and can't use it because they can't even fix the issues they already have.

It's a shame because eventually ZA FW will be die off because of their stupid antics. People are not going to keep putting up with this and the sooner they realize this the better, but I doubt they ever will. ZA FW has a lot of potential to be better than it is.

Don't Check Point read the forums!

[Perman]

Hi, folks: I just got off from ZA's forum. The scene over there re v.7 is unbelievable, like aftermath of an earthquake. Uers are crying blue here and there. Everyone except brand new user has to uninstall existing version and then install the new one (so-called clean install), this technique is so unusual that user has to follow the procedures EXACTLY, otherwise, terrible thing could happen. I ask myself that why in the world would people at Check Point do such horrible thing to their loyal clients. Do they know how to make people happy and make their cyber-days more enjoyable? Just a pity. Wasting their gifted talent. I think I wait a more longer before even entertaining the idea of upgrading to v.7:-[ BTW, I think people at check point 's higher level are hiding at COLD place, their hearing and vision are very selective, tuned to preselected frequency. Hear no evil, see no evil. Right?

[SoCalReviews]

-{ Quote: "Hi, folks: I just got off from ZA's forum. The scene over there re v.7 is unbelievable, like aftermath of an earthquake. Uers are crying blue here and there. Everyone except brand new user has to uninstall existing version and then install the new one (so-called clean install), this technique is so unusual that user has to follow the procedures EXACTLY, otherwise, terrible thing could happen. I ask myself that why in the world would people at Check Point do such horrible thing to their loyal clients. Do they know how to make people happy and make their cyber-days more enjoyable? Just a pity. Wasting their gifted talent. I think I wait a more longer before even entertaining the idea of upgrading to v.7:-[ BTW, I think people at check point 's higher level are hiding at COLD place, their hearing and vision are very selective, tuned to preselected frequency. Hear no evil, see no evil. Right?" }-
I would be careful not to associate the experience of a small number of users asking for installation help in the ZoneLabs user help forum with the experience of millions of ZA users worldwide. Although some users wanting to install ZA v7 have been provided the option of un-installing the previous version first this is only a suggestion and it is not required. The only suggestion I would make since ZASS version 7 uses the new KAV engine would be un-checking (disabling) the "load ZA at startup" option in ZASS 6.x under the Overview > Preferences tabs and then reboot the machine. This helps avoid conflicts from the previous ZASS and older CA AV running in real time. Next run the ZASS 7 installation program and during the ZASS 7 installation phase select the "clean install" option when asked. However even these are just suggestions and are not required. From my past years of experience with ZA and my own recent experience installing ZASS 7 and from reading user opinions so far in the ZA forum version 7 is turning out to be one of the better and easier ZA product upgrades.

[henryg]

-{ Quote: "I would be careful not to associate the experience of a small number of users asking for installation help in the ZoneLabs user help forum " }-

How about a huge number of users on their forum that had major problems after loading Z.A on their systems (and I mean MAJOR) . If one even expresses a slightest amount of "critique" towards Z.A's mess, it gets quickly deleted. So....unless you have a "success story", don't even bother posting there. Why purchase a bag-full-of-problems.....when you can get Comodo for free and save yourself the agony and pain.

[eBBox]

-{ Quote: "How about a huge number of users on their forum that had major problems after loading Z.A on their systems (and I mean MAJOR) . If one even expresses a slightest amount of "critique" towards Z.A's mess, it gets quickly deleted. So....unless you have a "success story", don't even bother posting there. Why purchase a bag-full-of-problems.....when you can get Comodo for free and save yourself the agony and pain." }-

I have had zero problems testing it. Been running very fine on my comp :)

[farmerlee]

ZoneAlarm antivirus 7 has been running great on my system, no problems whatsoever. I have it running alongside nod32 at the moment, i'm using nod32 for http scanning and za's kaspersky engine for on access scanning.

[henryg]

Here are a few for starters...maybe they should have tested their BETA a bit longer.

Quote:

The following three issues has been reported to Tech Support and the Developers are working on a fix.

The issues are as follows:

1. Windows Security Center warning: antivirus out-of-date; After update
it comes back again.
2. Expert rules are not saved upon restart;
3. kl1 service cannot find file (system event notification). This can
slow down a bit the startup.

No ETA yet when the fix will be available.

[twl845]

Farmerlee - The Kaspersky AV in ZA is supposed to be a great AV. Why would you feel it necessary to run NOD32, another great AV along side it. Number one, you can't run 2 AVs at the same time or you'll have conflicts if a virus is detected, and 2 AVs aren't necessary. :blink:

[12fw]

I just installed the Zone Alarm antivirus edition on my laptop. I needed an antivirus and for twenty bucks this is a bargain. It is running as smooth as silk and the Windows Security Center reports there is an antivirus. No kl1 problem either . I tried a few expert rules and they are staying in place. So I wonder what the ruckus is all about. I uninstalled the Comodo and I plan on keeping the Zone Alarm for good. The Comodo is okay, but it is a little on the weak side with the lousy logging and weak default rules and I found a few bugs in it.

12fw

[Perman]

Hi, folks: When I post my observations or sort of comments, I will try to be impartial, non-biased. But this growing pain of v.7. installation and performance are getting worse and worse day by day. Just look at here or for comparision matter, ZA forum. The list of discontent is growing by feet not by inches. Any person w/ grade school IQ would know that this is a tip of an huge iceberg. I wish Stock Brokerage analysts are not readers of these forums. Check Point's stock(if they indeed are listed at any stock exchange) will be a SELL,SELL, not even a HOLD. Sometimes, we just can not RUSH a turtle, and ZA products are happened to be one of them.;D

[12fw]

You mean like this?

http://www.advfn.com/quote_Check-Point-Sof_NASDAQ_CHKP.html

12fw

[Perman]

Hi, folks: Hi, 12fw, thanks for the link. Just look at the chart, on July 2006, it reached its bottom, around the same time, ZA released ZA products v.6, remember the chaos at that time? is it similiar to recent events generated by v.7 ? Some people just could not learn from past history. eh? Of course, ZA products may not be Check Point's bread and butter, but it will adversely hurt their bottom line and executives' performance bonuses.:P

[Woody777]

I think I will hold off on any ZoneAlarm upgrades for a while. For me this is no diffferent than any other updates to ZoneAlarm. Wait a month or so. By that time Zone Alarm will have fixed most of their problems. Maybe what they need to do is package an uninstaller for ZA 6.5 security suite along with the install of ZA 7. Secondly I think that the positive experience of some of the beta users of ZA 7 is misleading. These people are VERY Knowledgeable & know exactly what they are doing. It would be my guess they have a good rescue strategy for their PC. They certainly use something Acronis, Paragon,Rollback, etc. Very likely most of the People in the ZoneLabs forums have no idea what to do if they have problems & may have no backup system besides System Restore. This is a disaster waiting to happen for ZoneLabs. I know of at least one user in an office who blindly applies all updates to Zone Alarm when they offer it to her. If she has problems she gets hold of the first person who walks by & then calls the repair man if there is a problem she cannot easily fix. The release itself is probably great but most casual users who bought this suite because some salesman told them to & had it installed by the computer store have no idea what to do.

[SoCalReviews]

-{ Quote: "How about a huge number of users on their forum that had major problems after loading Z.A on their systems (and I mean MAJOR) . If one even expresses a slightest amount of "critique" towards Z.A's mess, it gets quickly deleted. So....unless you have a "success story", don't even bother posting there. Why purchase a bag-full-of-problems.....when you can get Comodo for free and save yourself the agony and pain." }-

I have been using ZA since before ZA free version 2 and from my experience this version 7 release is one of the better versions and there are numerous posts in the ZA forum just like there are in this forum of ZA v7 users with a similar experience. I can't speak for the people who claim to have had "Major" problems with installing version 7 or any previous ZA release but I know that in the past year or two there has been an increase in the possibility of conflicts between ZA and other security programs due to the use of similar security features. This is why it is recommended to temporarily disable all other security software before un-installing or installing any ZA product or those other programs block the changes needed for a successful un-install or install of ZA.

The ZA user forum is provided by ZoneLabs where ZA product users provide volunteer help and information for other ZA users. Just like most volunteer user help forums such as this one there are guidelines that are supposed to be followed to keep the forum on topic as a ZA help forum and not a place to post critical comments directed toward ZoneLabs or other ZA forum users.

I have not tried the Comodo firewall but I have read good things about it from users in this forum. Because of my familiarity with the ZA products, the success I have had using them and the support information provided on the ZoneLabs web site and the user forum I prefer using the ZA paid subscription based products such as ZAP and ZASS.

[twl845]

Socalreviews - As a member of the ZA forum team and a Guru, I can't blame you for defending the product. I agree that the ZA firewall is a good one and the accompanying AV and AS is OK too. When it works. IMO there are so many pc settups out there that the odds are good that your pc will have a problem with the software. The problem is that a few people are novices to some extent and they chose ZA because it's easy to set up. When they have a melt down with the upgrade or installation they are presented with techi solutions and some times using their limited knowledge get themselves in even deeper trouble. Just uninstalling requires at least an intermediate knowledge of your system. I think I can get around fairly well, and I was in a sweat doing the clean uninstall. The easiest thing a person can usually do is install software. The wizards walk you through to the point where you just glance over the instructions. Don't try that with ZA. If you miss a step you could be in deep trouble. You say that the few complaints in the forum are just a sampling of the millions who don't have a problem. What about the people who aren't aware of the forum. I'm sure that version 7 will level off and be OK after a month or so, but why after finally doing it right by issuing a beta are there still so many problems. Maybe they need a new staff. :)

[12fw]

The Comodo uninstall was fairly messy. It left drivers and keys, so I guess it is not a perfect world after all. The newer design does make the install seem easier or was the ZA always this easy. The links are embedded in the ZA firewall so I guess the forum is hard to miss.

[SoCalReviews]

-{ Quote: "Socalreviews - As a member of the ZA forum team and a Guru, I can't blame you for defending the product. I agree that the ZA firewall is a good one and the accompanying AV and AS is OK too. When it works. IMO there are so many pc settups out there that the odds are good that your pc will have a problem with the software. The problem is that most people are novices to some extent and they chose ZA because it's easy to set up. When they have a melt down with the upgrade or installation they are presented with techi solutions and some times using their limited knowledge get themselves in even deeper trouble. Just uninstalling requires at least an intermediate knowledge of your system. I think I can get around fairly well, and I was in a sweat doing the clean uninstall. The easiest thing a person can usually do is install software. The wizards walk you through to the point where you just glance over the instructions. Don't try that with ZA. If you miss a step you could be in deep s***. You say that the few complaints in the forum are just a sampling of the millions who don't have a problem. What about the millions who aren't aware of the forum. I'm sure that version 7 will level off and be OK after a month or so, but why after finally doing it right by issuing a beta are there still so many problems. Maybe they need a new staff. :)" }-

Twl845, regardless of my status in this forum, the ZA forum, or any other forum I believe the main objective of a volunteer security forum is to exchange helpful information with other users regarding security software. Sometimes I read posts and threads from forum users like they were cheering for their favorite sports team to win. In this thread I read many posts that were generalizations about ZA and not very many of them related to actual experiences with the ZA v7 release. It is one thing to be a fan cheering for your team and to have a one sided thread based on opinions but the best way to provide helpful information for the other forum users is by posting about actual experiences from using the new software release. I only posted replies in this thread to describe my recent experience with the ZASS v7 release and not to take sides in a back and forth debate about firewall preferences.

[Stem]

I would ask that we all please stay on topic, and make this discussion only about the product, and not to the status of a member, be it on this forum or others.

Thank you,

Stem

[oldshep]

Hey SoCalReviews,
You helped me in the past on the ZA forum and I welcome your opinions here. 6 weeks ago, I removed ZAISS from my desktop and am now running Comodo FW, Nod32 and Spysweeper. I must say I am very happy with this configuration - much less drama than when I had the ZAISS AV update and version upgrade issues.

But I also have a ZAISS installation on my laptop (8 months remaining). I haven't updated to ZAISS V7 yet but have been lurking on the ZA boards to see what's going on. I see several people there are recommending removing Spysweeper because Kaspersky engine plus the ZA spy engine are all that's needed. I know a lot of people think SSW is a resource hog and I know it slows things down a bit, but I'm slow to remove a tried and true app that has saved me in the past (not to mention its the #1 rated spyware security product). What advice can you give as far as compatibility between ZAISS V7 and Spysweeper? I see you are a fellow SSW user so I was wondering if you are still using it with ZAISS V7 and what if any shields you have disabled.

Thanks,

Oldshep

[SoCalReviews]

~removed quote of post just above~ Stem

Hi Oldshep, This is not really the topic of this particular thread but just so you know I do use Spy Sweeper 5.2 on my system and it does use allot of resources but Webroot has worked out some of the serious issues that plagued the previous SS v5.x releases. I can't say if I would recommend or not recommend using SS v5.2 but if you have the system resources to run it and don't mind turning off one or more of its shields for compatibility with the other security software you are using then it is still an effective anti-spyware product. On my desktop I have the common ad-sites shield disabled and for my older slower notebook I have both the common ad-sites shield and the memory shield disabled. You really need to use trial and error for determining what SS shields (if any) to disable.

The ZASS v7 with the KAV engine is a great combination of components in one suite and many users are going to only run ZASS with v7. If you have another anti-spyware subscription like SS 5.2 then you can try using it and see if you have the resources to run it. I also like using some of the popular free anti-spyware programs such as Windows Defender (real time), Spybot S&D, and Spywareblaster. The subscription based AVG anti-spyware v7.5 program might be a good real time AS to use instead of SS 5.2. Just be aware that there are always more chances for conflicts among the real time anti-spyware programs when you add more of them to your system.

Regarding your current setup with Comodo, NOD32, and Spy Sweeper...if it works well for you then that is what is important. I have not tried Comodo but it seems to do well in the firewall tests and many of this forum's users seem to like it. I really like NOD32 and the forum help here at Wilder's is fantastic. Although I do not recommend having two AV programs installed at one time on a system I might soon be trying out the ZASS v7 on my desktop system (with the AV component disabled but available for on demand scanning) and NOD32 v2.7 fully active for real time protection. I have a NOD32 subscription that I want to continue to use. I am not sure how well that combination will work but if it works as well as it does with ZASS 6.5 then it should be ok.

I am using only the combination of ZASS v7 along with SS 5.2 (with some shields disabled as I described previously) on my older notebook computer and it seems to work well. Remember that whatever combination of security products you decide to use it is your system and you don't have to duplicate other people's setup to achieve a high level of system security and functionality. If you want to try out different combinations that is fine but ultimately you need to use the programs that you are comfortable using and those that work best on your system.

[Hipgnosis]

-{ Quote: "The Comodo uninstall was fairly messy. It left drivers and keys, so I guess it is not a perfect world after all. The newer design does make the install seem easier or was the ZA always this easy. The links are embedded in the ZA firewall so I guess the forum is hard to miss." }-

Very true about being messy. I installed the latest version of Comodo on a test box just to see what the memory footprint was......Security Center is still reporting it as turned off even though it was removed. I have turned off Security Center until I can figure out how to get rid of the Comodo "LEGACY" entries in the registry. I'm just glad it was a test box.

[farmerlee]

-{ Quote: "Farmerlee - The Kaspersky AV in ZA is supposed to be a great AV. Why would you feel it necessary to run NOD32, another great AV along side it. Number one, you can't run 2 AVs at the same time or you'll have conflicts if a virus is detected, and 2 AVs aren't necessary. :blink:" }-
LOL, its just something i'm trying out, i have paid for both products so i figure i may as well use them. So far no problems so i'll keep trying it out.

[unhappy_viewer]

Perman,

There is always a whole slew of installation questions at the ZA forums with every release. Even ZA 4.5 and older (before the Checkpoint Software takeover) had their fair share of problems. It is not right to use a user forum to determine if something is going to work for you as ultimately the only people who come to these types of forums are those who have trouble, therefore never a good place to statistically say something is not working for alot of people.

P.S. Za v7 works well for me and even feels faster although no noticable decrease in the use of system resources. Then again ZA always runs fairly light on my system.

[fred128]

Bad news:
Cyberhawk interferes with ZAISS 7. The computer freezes. I had to uninstall Cyberhawk and now everything is working well.

[Perman]

hi, unhappy viewer; Thanks for the remarks. I never use a third party means to drum up opinion to my benefit. You have reminded not only me but also a lot of others that it is ZA's trend to have a bundle of problems at the beginning of the new version. As I have said previously on two seperate occasions, ZA never have learned from their previous mistakes and still conducting the tactics of shooting first and then aiming later games. This forum is users friendly one, we watch out for each other, we remind each other of traps, black clouds on horizon. I sincerely assume that you have no objection to this, have you? If ZA wants a hired gun for rossy reports, I have no troubles doing just that. But that is not an open forum designed for. Any successful venture, its master has to have open mind to accept yas and nays. Seeing is believing, I think some people have already seen enough. This is my own opinion, judge it yourself accordingly. Strictly business, nothing personal. :)BTW, I am a happy user of ZASS v.6.5.737

[unhappy_viewer]

-{ Quote: "As I have said previously on two seperate occasions, ZA never have learned from their previous mistakes and still conducting the tactics of shooting first and then aiming later games. " }-
I don't believe that is the case. ZL had originally anticipated that the open beta was to have only lasted for 4-6 weeks, trying to make a release before 2007 came. However the beta period was extended by 3 more weeks than originally anticipated if my calculations are correct. I believe ZL only shifts their product from beta to retail when bug reports are no longer coming in (which would indicate that beta testers no longer experience any problems). This would indicate that ZL probably does not have the "release first and patch later" mentality unlike some computer game producers (Hint: EA).

[noway]

It's a good user forum they've got. It's too bad that ZoneLabs doesn't want to expend the resources to monitor that forum for issues with their software and suggestions for improvement. I spend about 5 minutes/day there and I don't even use their software, so you would think they could assign one of their staff to spend some time there for a few minutes/day. I think that is a waste of a valuable resource and could be used by them to supplement their beta-testing. I think their technical support contact form is for registered users only and you have to enter a licence number. I guess they don't want helpful feedback (suggestions/bug reports) unless you're registered (paid).

[henryg]

1. You get a BSOD.
2. You must go through 15 steps just to uninstall (in case normal uninstall can’t be run).
3. If everything else fails.... you can have access to Zone Labs expert technical support by telephone....Cost is $2.95 per minute, billed to your Visa, MasterCard, American Express, or Discover card. LoL!

BTW, here are these steps:

To remove ZoneAlarm completely from your computer in case normal uninstall can’t be run or doesn’t run properly, do the following: (http://forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=AllowAccess&message.id=103)

-{ Quote: "* Right click the ZoneAlarm systray icon and click Restore ZoneAlarm Control Center.
Go to Overview > Preferences and uncheck Load ZoneAlarm at startup.
Close Control Center, right click the icon again and then click Shutdown ZoneAlarm.

Note: If you're unable to carry out this step because the icon is missing, you can skip it and proceed with the next steps, but in this case do them all in safe mode!
* REBOOT

* Go to Start > Programs > ZoneLabs and click Uninstall, or uninstall ZA using Control Panel > Software > Add/Remove Programs.

If a security check appears, click Yes and continue the uninstall procedure.

* REBOOT

* Make sure hidden files and folders are shown. To do so open Windows Explorer. Depending on your OS click Tools or View and then Folder Options > View.

Choose Show hidden files and folders, uncheck Hide protected operating system files (Windows 2000/XP/2003 only) and click OK.

* Next go to Start > Search > Files and Folders. Make sure the location box is set to search your Local Hard Drive (usually C:\ ) or All Local Drives. Also make

sure the Advanced Search Options are set to search subfolders and hidden files. Now copy the entire line below, paste it into the search box and click Search Now.

Zonelabs; "zone labs"; "Internet logs"; vsconfig.xml; vsdata.dll; vsdata95.vxd; vsdatant.sys; vsmon.*; vsmonapi.dll; vsnetutils.dll;vspubapi.dll; zaplus.*; zapro.*; zllictbl.dat; zlparser.dll; zonealarm.exe; zoneband.dll; vsutil.dll; zlclient.*

A list of files and folders belonging to ZoneAlarm will appear in the Search Results pane.

Note: if you’re using McAfee software be sure to check the vsutil.dll if found: right click the file and choose Properties. Verify it belongs to ZoneLabs.

If it does not do not remove it. Now proceed by deleting all ZoneLabs files and folders that were found.

* Empty the Recycle Bin.

* Now remove all ZoneLabs keys that may be left in the Windows registry. To do this copy the lines below and paste them into Notepad.

Save the file as zabegone.reg, double click it and allow for the registry changes to be made.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
REGEDIT4

[-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ZAMailSafe]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Zone Labs]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Zone Labs]
[-HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Zone Labs]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
* REBOOT

ZoneAlarm will now be completely removed from your computer. If you wish to install a new copy of ZA, be sure to do so under an administrator account with full rights and permissions." }-

[12fw]

-{ Quote: "1. You get a BSOD.
2. You must go through 15 steps just to uninstall (in case normal uninstall can’t be run).
3. If everything else fails.... you can have access to Zone Labs expert technical support by telephone....Cost is $2.95 per minute, billed to your Visa, MasterCard, American Express, or Discover card. LoL!

BTW, here are these steps:" }-Hmmm.
1. No BSOD here
2. I just tried to uninstall in the Add and Remove and the uninstall and the new install was good.
3. I just checked out the site. The email support is free and the BSOD report and Technical Support email is free.

This still looks like a bargain to me for twenty bucks.

[mango]

i tried the pro version, and it crippled my local network.

setup-

cable Modem-wireless router-Media box with tp cable.

i have an laptop with zonealarm connected by wireless.

i use the media box to stream video stored on the pc.

after installing 7.0.302.000 the speed is crippled, video is choppy if anything is uploaded or downloaded on the laptop.

Also uploading to the box gets slow speed, if i do anything else like surfe the net.

uninstalled ZA, and now its back to normal again.

http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledxw8.jpg

[ASpace]

I just want to say my opinion about the new ZoneAlarm free firewall .

I am very disappointed from the new release . I knew it was BETA but yesterday I deciced to check if it has got out of BETA , opened their site and downloaded the non-beta 7 variant .

From the beginning of the download process I became very frightened because I noticed it is ~38 MB big . God , what is this monster , resourses hog and free hard drive space eater . I don't know what is improved and what is not but , d*** , the previous version is 13 mb , the new one 38 mb .

I say NO to ZoneAlarm .

[ThunderZ]

-{ Quote: "I just want to say my opinion about the new ZoneAlarm free firewall .

I am very disappointed from the new release . I knew it was BETA but yesterday I deciced to check if it has got out of BETA , opened their site and downloaded the non-beta 7 variant .

From the beginning of the download process I became very frightened because I noticed it is ~38 MB big . God , what is this monster , resourses hog and free hard drive space eater . I don't know what is improved and what is not but , d*** , the previous version is 13 mb , the new one 38 mb .

I say NO to ZoneAlarm ." }-


It must have been ZASS. The ZAP I d\l is under 15.

[gre87y]

You downloaded the security suite, the free version is 14.4 mb




http://download.zonelabs.com/bin/free/information/zap/releaseHistory.html

[ASpace]

Unfortunately ... Nope

[ThunderZ]

I do not know what you have there HiTech_boy. But I just d\l it again from the link by gre87y. 14.4 as atated.

[ASpace]

Thanks but his link is for ZAP (Zone Alarm professional) . I am talking about the free ZA . I am not a paid ZA user . Obviously (as you see) there is quite a big difference between the free and the paid one . Guess what a monster is in these 38.1 MBs :wacko:

[Stem]

I have just been to ZA, downloading the "Free" version did show the file as 38.1mb

[ThunderZ]

-{ Quote: "Guess what a monster is in these 38.1 MBs :wacko:" }-


:o Right you are. Just d\l it to see for myself. WOW It must be that they include ZASS trial vers. option? I am not opening it up to find out.;)

[ASpace]

-{ Quote: ":o Right you are. Just d\l it to see for myself. WOW It must be that they include ZASS trial vers. option? I am not opening it up to find out.;)" }-

Have no idea ... Thanks for confirming , Stem and ThunderZ

[gre87y]

Downloaded from the link I posted earlier.

[ccsito]

http://download.zonelabs.com/bin/free/information/zap/releaseHistory.html

This link is for the download of Zone Alarm Pro which is 14.4 MB.

The download of Zone Alarm Free is here
http://download.zonelabs.com/bin/free/information/znalm/zaReleaseHistory.html

This program file is over 38 MB in size so the Free is bigger than the Pro version?? LOL

Apparently, the free version is really a full AS + FW while the Pro version is strictly FW + some antispyware features.

I don't like programs with excess baggage after a certain trial period. That is why I stayed away from programs such as the new Kerio firewall and AVG Antispyware. :thumbd:

[ccsito]

The Pro history page provides a more information on the most recent update than the Free version.
-{ Quote: "Product set-up process has been redesigned and shortened.
A pre-scan has been added to the start wizard that scans the user's PC for program files, compares programs with ZoneAlarm's SmartDefense Advisor database, and applies policy to said programs, both legitimate and malicious.
The UI has been refreshed, with new ZoneAlarm/Check Point branding.
Anti-spyware has been improved for better discovery and cleaning.
The spyware update system has been improved for reliability and responsiveness. " }-

If the Free version had only a the few listed updates, then that would not justify the huge jump in size. :wacko:
Free version summary:

-{ Quote: "Product set-up process has been redesigned and shortened.
The UI has been refreshed, with new ZoneAlarm/Check Point branding." }-

They probably are not listing what was REALLY added in the version history summary until they have enough time to write down the entire "novel length" information. LOL

[ccsito]

http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/company/products/znalm/comparison.jsp?dc=12bms&ctry=US&lang=en&lid=zasupp_l

http://download.zonelabs.com/bin/free/information/zass/releaseHistory.html

Based on this chart, the Pro and SS versions have more features than the Free version. Yet the ZASS is 37.9 MB which is SMALLER than the Free version??! :blink: :wacko:

Methinks the Free version must be all of the other programs piled into one. ???

[Hipgnosis]

The reason the new free version is so large...........


From Major Geeks website:

Editors Note: The new 7 version of Zone Alarm free includes Zone Alarm Security Suite, explaining its large size. You do not have to install it and it now has some minor nag screens, at least on first install.

[ccsito]

yep, that's it. Nag screens take up a lot of code. Those fancy GIF and BMP files will do it. ;D THey decided to follow Sunbelt's FW example apparently.

[12fw]

I went to Customer Support page at Zone Labs looked under the products. Then I selected the freeware ZA. I got http://download.zonelabs.com/bin/free/information/znalm/zaReleaseHistory.html and when I click the version 7 I get page not found.

When I click the freeware 6.5 download I get a file for 13.1 MB

12fw

[QBgreen]

Time to eat my words! :P Well, it seems that the program doesn't want to provide updates anymore. I'm speaking of ZAAV, ZAAS, and ZASS. The auto and manual update features of both the virus and spyware signatures seems to be constipated for a large number of users. I've been assured that the problem is being worked upon. BTW, has Comodo released their version 2.4 yet? (;D)

[twl845]

QBgreen- Still waiting for the CPF update. At his point I'll wait until tomorrow to check again. :P

[12fw]

QBgreen.
I just got the updates not five minutes ago. I suppose that is the advantage of actually having a version installed and running it, instead of just speculating about a software instead.

I am curious why there is so much chatter about Comodo in this thread. Those posts are not about ZA, but just chatter about the Comodo. Is it not a ZAP/ZASS 7.0.302.000 thread? Anybody have a good answer for that? Is there not a Comodo thread somewhere else?

12fw

[ThunderZ]

Just bit the bullet and did an upgrade install to ZAP 7 on the Wifes` PC. Did not let it scan for programs as I will decide what I want on it and what I consider dangerous. Other then that all is well so far. Running Nod32 w\BS settings and Prevx1 Pro mode in real time.

[Perman]

Hi,folks: I heard some reports regading to Boot time slowdown, or conflits w/ other HIPSs. I did a bit research about it. I found there is an trace of srescan.sys driver in C:\ WINDOWS\system32\driver, on my v.6.5.737. But I could not find its footprints on that folder, therefore I disable that driver at device manager(hidden drivers). I have not had any problems using v.6.5.737, verus others using updated 7.0. Could this driver be a culprit? The previous posting indicating not scan programs(at boot time) may have indeed solve this puzzle. Just a thought.

[pvsurfer]

Can someone please tell me how much memory the ZAP v7 processes consume? (I apologize if it's somewhere in this thread, I looked but couldn't find it).

Thanks

[farmerlee]

Yeah ZA+AV 7 does seem to add a significant delay to boot up times on my laptop.

Currently running with av and email protection disabled,
vsmon.exe - 18,436k
zlclient.exe - 8,192k

[Legendkiller]

-{ Quote: "Can someone please tell me how much memory the ZAP v7 processes consume? (I apologize if it's somewhere in this thread, I looked but couldn't find it).

Thanks" }-
from my experience of zaiss 7...
there are three processes running at start-up...
1&2-"Scanningprocess.exe"(total:38,000k)
3-"Vsmon":around 15,000 to 20,000k
These three significantly delay start-up...

[pvsurfer]

Thanks for the feedback, but I'm not interested in the AV version or the Security Suite (as I'm sure there are differences between them and ZAP only)... So if anyone can inform me of ZoneAlarm Pro v7's Process memory usage, I'd appreciate it.

[Menorcaman]

Seems that ZASS 7.0.302.000 and Spyware Doctor 4.0 do not play nicely together.

Just installed the recently released ZASS 7.0.302.000 and experienced the same system reboot problem detailed in this PC Tools Forum thread (http://www.pctools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=192). Only solution I found was to uninstall Spyware Doctor 4.0 and hope that the soon to be released version 5.0 fixes the problem.

Regards

[Menorcaman]

No joy. Just installed Spyware Doctor 5.0 Beta but still refuses to play with ZASS 7.0.320.000. Flagged it up in the PC Tools SD 5 Beta forum.

Regards

[ThunderZ]

-{ Quote: "Thanks for the feedback, but I'm not interested in the AV version or the Security Suite (as I'm sure there are differences between them and ZAP only)... So if anyone can inform me of ZoneAlarm Pro v7's Process memory usage, I'd appreciate it." }-


Sorry Pvsurfer, just saw your request for ZAP 7 resource usage. If you still need it I will be glad to provide it as soon as the Wife quits playing her game on her machine. I run 4.x and 5.x respectivly on my laptop and tower.

[Diver]

On my Sony SZ notebook ZASS tends to crash during on demand scans. Red X windows error messages pop up to tell me vsmon and something else have terminated. A reboot is necessary. It has been removed. ZAP trial runs OK with anti spyware turned off. No start up delays. It helps to turn off the Windows firewall service.

If any of you remember me, it might look like I am back from the dead.

[Menorcaman]

Pleased to report that Spyware Doctor 5 Beta 10 Build 168 fixed the incompatibility problem between Spyware Doctor and ZASS 7.0.302.000.

Regards