Great Dial Up (Fast, Easy, Free) **Adware*

[zapjb]

http://greatdialup.com/index.php
{QUOTE-> Welcome to Great Dial Up. Your source for Fast, Free, Easy Dial Up Internet. We offer a quality service without the price. When you sign up with us you get free dial up internet service and a free 2 Gig email account. There are no strings attached. If you sign up for our service and for any reason are not satisfied you can cancel at any time. Sign up now! It's FREE!

Unlike other service that just give you a limited number of hours per month, Great Dial Up is unlimited! We even use a Toll Free Number so there is absolutely no cost to you! You no longer need to wade through huge lists of local access numbers. Everyone uses the same Toll Free number to dial in. It has never been more simple.

1-877-776-1314

FAQ: Q: So if it is free how do you make your money?
A: We consider ourselves a no frills ISP we offer only e-mail support. All of our dialup sevice is add supported. <-QUOTE}
It supports XPs builtin DUN.

OK got the facts & ugly adware part out of the way.

When I check my firewall with my paid dialup ISP, I am totally STEALTH. No closed or open ports. On all GRC port scan tests. And 3 or 4 other firewall testing sites.

When I use Great Dial Up (adware) ISP. My same firewall, Sygate Personal Firewall v5.5 build 2710. Shows an open & a closed port (79,80). Just on the common ports test at GRC.com. Didn't run the full first 1056 ports test.

I don't consider this Sygates faullt. Can I make my firewall fully stealth with this adware ISP? Or is it impossible? Or do I have to finally switch firewalls?

Thanks.

[Mrkvonic]

Hello,

A few questions:

This dialup comes with their own dialer?
When you scanned, did you scan your own IP?

Mrk

[zapjb]

{QUOTE-> Hello,

A few questions:

This dialup comes with their own dialer?
When you scanned, did you scan your own IP?

Mrk <-QUOTE}
Great Dial Up offers their own dialer. But I did not use it. I used the New Connection Wizard in XP.

Yes I scanned my own IP.

[ccsito]

I wonder how long this free service will last? Many that popped up in the late 1990's disappeared a few months after they started offering their free service. :-\

[farmerlee]

{QUOTE-> I wonder how long this free service will last? Many that popped up in the late 1990's disappeared a few months after they started offering their free service. :-\ <-QUOTE}
I used to use free dial up ages ago, it started out as free and ended up as free for the first the first 2 hours then you pay lol.

[FastGame]

zapjb, how is this free service working out ? is it as fast as regular paid service ? do you get booted off easy ?

[Dave_G]

{QUOTE-> http://greatdialup.com/index.php

It supports XPs builtin DUN.

OK got the facts & ugly adware part out of the way.

When I check my firewall with my paid dialup ISP, I am totally STEALTH. No closed or open ports. On all GRC port scan tests. And 3 or 4 other firewall testing sites.

When I use Great Dial Up (adware) ISP. My same firewall, Sygate Personal Firewall v5.5 build 2710. Shows an open & a closed port (79,80). Just on the common ports test at GRC.com. Didn't run the full first 1056 ports test.

I don't consider this Sygates faullt. Can I make my firewall fully stealth with this adware ISP? Or is it impossible? Or do I have to finally switch firewalls?

Thanks. <-QUOTE}


zapjb, I also have the same experience with a greatdialup DUN connection using Sygate v5.5 and also ZA Pro v5.5. So I suspect you were correct the problem does not lie with Sygate.

I'd also like to stealth the ports but have been unable to so and when I brought up the issue in their forum, the thread was deleted and I was banned. Makes me wonder why they appear to be so sensitive to the Port 80 issue.

Only speculation but could the port 79 and 80 issue be related to them using a toll free number?

Dave_G

[timcan]

Interesting. My isp backup acct (dialup) is total stealth but great dial up isn't
. I'm using comodo pfw.Comodo shows a different ip address than grc.com.There is no scan activity in comodo's logs either.http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h148/weldermybut/scangrc.png

[zapjb]

{QUOTE-> zapjb, I also have the same experience with a greatdialup DUN connection using Sygate v5.5 and also ZA Pro v5.5. So I suspect you were correct the problem does not lie with Sygate.

I'd also like to stealth the ports but have been unable to so and when I brought up the issue in their forum, the thread was deleted and I was banned. Makes me wonder why they appear to be so sensitive to the Port 80 issue.

Only speculation but could the port 79 and 80 issue be related to them using a toll free number?

Dave_G <-QUOTE}
Here is Great Dial Up response I got.
{QUOTE-> Here is the deal. We have you behind our own firewall. So when you test you "stealthness", it is testing our server, which is in front of our firewall. So it looks as if it were open on your computer. <-QUOTE}
Can this be possible?

[zapjb]

{QUOTE-> zapjb, how is this free service working out ? is it as fast as regular paid service ? do you get booted off easy ? <-QUOTE}
The connection was just as fast.

Don't know about kick off or kick off time. I just tested my firewall & got off the free isp & went back to paid. Until I get my stealthness question answered.

Thanks.

[f3x]

hi zapjb

The best way to check is to try to have an incomming connection


Their setup is possible as a one way proxy, when you send info it pass proxy, when you receive connection it goes to their server rather than going to you


You -----> Proxy ----> Internet
You --|--- Proxy ----< Internet (Gisbon open port are for his proxy)


try for example to setup a file server / web server on port 89 or any other and test if you incomming connection reach your comp

[zapjb]

Thanks for the idea.

I don't know much about servers.

Could I just share a file on a P2P app? Or upload a file? And what does this prove?

I'm just thick about this. I need this explained very simply.

[Dave_G]

{QUOTE-> Here is Great Dial Up response I got.

Can this be possible? <-QUOTE}

zapjb yes I believe it can.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but if an ISP is using a proxy server, their server acts as a relay between you and the internet. And (as I understand it) wouldn't thier server have to collect information like requests you had performed in search engines, keywords you had typed, etc?

And also wouldn't the logs that would normally record these things on the sites you visit now be on the ISP server? If so and they had this information would they keep it, could or would they sell it now or later?

I see no privacy policy anywhere on greatdialups website stating what they would or would not do with the information they collect.