opinions?

[Gigabyte]

I recently went from Panda IS 2k6 to Pc Cillin 2k7 and I must say it isn't as much as a resource hog. Since I am using it along with Spysweeper,Boclean spywareblaster and cyberhawk,Do I need anything else? I also use all the popular on demand programs.

[farmerlee]

Sounds a bit like overkill to me. But if the combo is working then keep using it. The only thing you may want is an an on demand virus scanner to back up pc-cillin if it misses anything. I use the mcafee on demand scanner on my computers.

[C.S.J]

-{ Quote: "I recently went from Panda IS 2k6 to Pc Cillin 2k7 and I must say it isn't as much as a resource hog. Since I am using it along with Spysweeper,Boclean spywareblaster and cyberhawk,Do I need anything else? I also use all the popular on demand programs." }-

get rid of spysweeper immeditatly with your setup, it 'will' conflict with pccillin 2k7, and will drag your machine down and its 'not needed' as trend has better detection for spyware than that.

[lodore]

-{ Quote: "get rid of spysweeper immeditatly with your setup, it 'will' conflict with pccillin 2k7, and will drag your machine down and its 'not needed' as trend has better detection for spyware than that." }-

wow we agree for once i think trend micro anti spy is better than spy sweeper as well. if i get a payed replacement for spy sweeper in January it will be trend micro anti spy.
lodore

[Gigabyte]

Wasn't aware of the conflict. My subscription with SS is up in March,so just using Trend Micro would be enough? I also use Boclean and I see that Trend micro has Trojan built in.Shoulo I get rid of that too? Thanks

[C.S.J]

-{ Quote: "Wasn't aware of the conflict. My subscription with SS is up in March,so just using Trend Micro would be enough? I also use Boclean and I see that Trend micro has Trojan built in.Shoulo I get rid of that too? Thanks" }-
i personally would get rid if that aswell, if your using pccillin 2k7.

[FanJ]

-{ Quote: "
Wasn't aware of the conflict. My subscription with SS is up in March,so just using Trend Micro would be enough? I also use Boclean and I see that Trend micro has Trojan built in.Shoulo I get rid of that too? Thanks
" }-

-{ Quote: "i personally would get rid if that aswell, if your using pccillin 2k7." }-

Hi,
Sorry, I'm not sure what exactly you're meaning.
But if you ment say to get rid of BOClean, then I strongly disagree !
Keep BOClean !!!

Sorry in case I misunderstood you.

[C.S.J]

he could kee BOCLEAN for ondemand i suppose, but i dont really see the need for it.

if boclean is a trojan detector, never used it or heard much of it, just use trend and maybe use dr.web cureit for any second opinions.

[Gigabyte]

yeah. boclean is a trojan program. I am trying to figure out what I need and what I don't. Some of my programs are expiring and i am wanting to get rid of some things that I don't need if possible.

Real time I am currently using...
(1) Trend Micro IS 2k7
(2) Spysweeper
(3) Boclean
(4) Cyberhawk
(5) spyware blaster

ondemand
(1) spybot
(2) Adaware (when it works)
(3)spyware terminator
(4) super antispyware
(5) a-squared(free)
(6) Avg antispyware
(7)blacklight (rootkit)

Spybot doesn't really find much,Adaware constantly freezes and when it does find something it's really nothing. Cyberhawk I think just lets me know of suspicious programs trying to run,I believe Trend Micro Is would work for this.

As you can see, I'm trying to lean out my running programs.;D I surf pretyy safe,so that's not a concern.

[C.S.J]

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you are using wayyyyyyy too much and im suprised your machine is running,

my suggestion would be,

use trend 2k7, with cyberhawk maybe.
backlight is good now and then, just to run as scans are super quick.

and choose just ONE anti-spyware program for ondemand only.

and you will be fine. ;D

[Gigabyte]

Ok,so I should do this...

Real time:

(1) Trendmiceo IS 2k7
(2) Cyberhawk

on demand:

(1) Spyware terminator ( I kind of like it the most)

There are times when one on-demand scanner will catch something the others did not. should I be worried about that?

[Londonbeat]

Hi Gigabyte

IMHO using PCcillin and BOClean will give you great protection, and using an extra realtime anti-spyware is unnesecary. AVG AS or Superantispyware are two excellent free on-demand scanners that you could use, though you probably would never need them with PC Cillin and BOClean.
I would keep spywareblaster too for hardening IE, (doesn't use (m)any resources).

Londonbeat

[JimIT]

There is one spyware-stopper that does not get enough mention on this forum that is so effective that I now don't leave home without it, and that's Eric Howes' IE-Spyad.

Kept up to date, and in conjuction with SpywareBlaster, it's extremely effective, and the only true 'spyware fighters' I put on my computers.

[Pedro]

Unless you're running out of disk space, i would keep the on-demand anti-spyware(s). None will catch all, not even close. If you want to check the computer once in a while, keep them all.

[Gigabyte]

Thanks for the help guys,It's appreciated!;)

[FanJ]

-{ Quote: "he could kee BOCLEAN for ondemand i suppose, but i dont really see the need for it.

if boclean is a trojan detector, never used it or heard much of it, just use trend and maybe use dr.web cureit for any second opinions." }-

Well, reading this posting from you, you don't know anything about BOClean.
Sorry, but I'm really asking myself why you post an advice about a program while you don't know anything about it. That's not the way to go, sorry.

To the original poster Gigabyte:
May I strongly advice you to keep your BOClean.
You have a licence for it (as I understand from your posting).
So please keep on using it !
It's all about a layered defense.

[Gigabyte]

Think I'll use..

Realtime:
PcCillin (paid version)
Boclean (paid version)
Spywareblaster
Cyberhawk( ???)

get rid of Spysweeper,since PcCillin has anti-spyware built in.

and keep the other on demand scanners. They don't use resources until I use them,so why remove them.;D

[huntnyc]

How about a download link for IE_Spyad and thanks. I don't use IE hardly at all except for Windows update but would this program still be helpful to me in some way?

Gary

[Gigabyte]

-{ Quote: "How about a download link for IE_Spyad and thanks. I don't use IE hardly at all except for Windows update but would this program still be helpful to me in some way?

Gary" }-

http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file/fid,23332-order,1-page,1-c,alldownloads/description.html

[FanJ]

-{ Quote: "How about a download link for IE_Spyad and thanks. I don't use IE hardly at all except for Windows update but would this program still be helpful to me in some way?

Gary" }-

IE-SPYAD link and info (that's the right current link to Eric Howes site):
http://www.spywarewarrior.com/uiuc/resource.htm

[huntnyc]

Thank you very much.

Gary

[farmerlee]

-{ Quote: "yeah. boclean is a trojan program. I am trying to figure out what I need and what I don't. Some of my programs are expiring and i am wanting to get rid of some things that I don't need if possible.

Real time I am currently using...
(1) Trend Micro IS 2k7
(2) Spysweeper
(3) Boclean
(4) Cyberhawk
(5) spyware blaster

ondemand
(1) spybot
(2) Adaware (when it works)
(3)spyware terminator
(4) super antispyware
(5) a-squared(free)
(6) Avg antispyware
(7)blacklight (rootkit)

Spybot doesn't really find much,Adaware constantly freezes and when it does find something it's really nothing. Cyberhawk I think just lets me know of suspicious programs trying to run,I believe Trend Micro Is would work for this.
As you can see, I'm trying to lean out my running programs.;D I surf pretyy safe,so that's not a concern." }-
Wow that is some realtime overkill!
However if your computer is running fine with the current setup then you may as well use what you have paid for.

[Ice_Czar]

I used to run alot of overkill too

now Ive got it thinned down to
IE w\ a noaccess.rat (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/267930)
Firefox w\ noscript (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/722/) (rule based javascripting)
Processguard (or other Hostbased Intrusion Prevention System (HIPS), rule based process control)
a good rule based firewall (still using Kerio Personal 2)
and any old freeware AntiVirus scanner primarily to look at email (with html turned off in the client)
no IM (if you must employ meebo (http://www27.meebo.com/index-en.html) or some other proxy)
Filechecker (http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/filechecker.html) to watch the watchers
and maintain regular Rootkitrevealer and HijackThis logs which are compared to known good baselines


its the difference between trying to enumerate everything that can possibly be bad (an ever growing list that you pay to get) and simply defining what code you use and trust. And the odd tripwire here and there.

The Six Dumbest Ideas in Computer Security (http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/editorials/dumb/) specifically > #2) Enumerating Badness

excerpt
-{ Quote: ""Enumerating Badness" is the idea behind a huge number of security products and systems, from anti-virus to intrusion detection, intrusion prevention, application security, and "deep packet inspection" firewalls. What these programs and devices do is outsource your process of knowing what's good. Instead of you taking the time to list the 30 or so legitimate things you need to do, it's easier to pay $29.95/year to someone else who will try to maintain an exhaustive list of all the evil in the world. Except, unfortunately, your badness expert will get $29.95/year for the antivirus list, another $29.95/year for the spyware list, and you'll buy a $19.95 "personal firewall" that has application control for network applications. By the time you're done paying other people to enumerate all the malware your system could come in contact with, you'll more than double the cost of your "inexpensive" desktop operating system.

One clear symptom that you have a case of "Enumerating Badness" is that you've got a system or software that needs signature updates on a regular basis, or a system that lets past a new worm that it hasn't seen before. The cure for "Enumerating Badness" is, of course, "Enumerating Goodness." Amazingly, there is virtually no support in operating systems for such software-level controls. I've tried using Windows XP Pro's Program Execution Control but it's oriented toward "Enumerating Badness" and is, itself a dumb implementation of a dumb idea.

In a sense, "Enumerating Badness" is a special dumb-case of "Default Permit" - our #1 dumb computer security idea. But it's so prevalent that it's in a class by itself." }-

total cost
the HIPS
everything else is freeware ;)