O & O DiskImage coming

[mistycat]

I haven't seen this posted, if so, ignore this. As a customer, O & O sent me a deal on a new software being released on Nov 21 that sounds pretty good but its not hard to make anything sound good. It's a disk imaging tool with a Start CD (their version of a bootable CD ?), quick, easy, supports Full and Incremental images, compression, CD/DVD support, 30 day trial and more for $49.95. I look forward to any tests of this program.

[WSFuser]

i cant wait. im always looking for a decent ATI alternative.

[Chubb]

Haven't received the mail yet, but maybe a good alternative to True Image or Paragon Hard Disk Manager...

I really like the BlueCon 6.0 from O&O, a good alternative to Winternal's Admin Pak.

[mistycat]

And I'm happy with their Defragger as well as a couple of their other programs. They seem to be a very solid company with good support and their software isn't released until it works well. A couple of other items I forgot to mention are that DiskImage has image verification and supports Windows 64; sounds like a competitor for ATI to me. Time will tell.

[Tommy]

Yes, O&O has very good, stable and nearly bullet proofed applications. I am looking forward to see this new one.
By the way, any one experience with O&O BlueCon?

[mistycat]

None here, never even run a trial of BluCon though it does look interesting.

[WSFuser]

http://www.ispd.de/de/distribution/partner/oosoftware.htm

Babelfish translation:

-{ Quote: "O&O disk image

Successful program products approximately around the non removable disk represent the basis for O&O disk image Professional edition. With the experience for many years of O&O in safe moving of files during the Defragmentierung - millions of installations prove and content customers - you can your non removable disks with O&O disk image secure and re-establish. O&O disk image supports all important functions connected with a simple operation, in order to secure and/or repair fast and simply data.

With O&O disk image is the production of incremental data safety devices exactly the same no problem like the protection of a complete system. The secured data can be compressed thereby in different stages and also coded. Dividing a safety device on different data media can be individually specified or to O&O disk image decides independently on the allocation.

From a safety device if only individual files or file are needed, then the entire safety device does not have to be restored. Shop of a safety device as drive assembly and thus that the access to all contained data are not with O&O disk image a problem.

As already from O&O BlueCon V6 or the O&O RescueBox V4 admits, disk image startingable CD on basis of Windows PE with complete Windows Treiberunterstuetzung is available also for O&O, with which a system safety device without previous installation can be restored completely. This cash valley technology in such a way specified is to users of O&O disk image without previous production of a starting medium immediately at the disposal.

For a fast safety device and re-establishment O&O disk image Professional edition supports natively the 64bit-Edition von Windows XP and also the multi-processor technology. O&O disk image Professional edition runs under all editions from Windows 2000 and XP.

Product properties in the overview

* sector-based safety devices
* incremental safety devices
* Support of dynamic volumes, GPT disks and RAID
* Compression and coding (to 256bit)
* Splitting automatically and user-defines
* Safety device as drive assembly mergable
* Context menu support in the Windows Explorer
* 64bit and multi-processor support
* Exclude from files and/or groups of files and/or files possible
* Protection and restoring on push of a button
* Creation and administration of own safeguard profiles
* Cash valley option for the start of O&O disk image without previous installation" }-

[Tommy]

Looks promissing. As i personal trust O&O (using some stuff of them since years) it seams that there is a rival for ATI coming up.

[HandsOff]

I'm not really here...only half of my software is installed on my new HDD...anyway, I can't really sit in judgment of image backup software because most of my experience is with one, rather old software that was included for free with a hard drive, Dantz Retrospect 5.6...and I love it!

However...what is all this central concern of security devices and security files? I mean, is this something new, or the same problem all imaging software has been handling? It's a serious question because I have always selected the option:
"Do not back up security data from workstations" - I don't really know what it means but it is the default choice, and I have had many successful restorals, so does anyone know what they are talking about?

(I've always wondered if it had to do with something that would screw up serial number registration of different programs if it was tampered with. This is sort of a sore subject for me because I must have over 100 programs that I have to register and you never know what is going to effect the registration. I'm afraid my aggressive use of registry cleaning tools has caused me some inconvenience in the area...but with no idea what I've done wrong, chances are I will keep doing it. That is the hell that is Windows!



-HandsOff

[Chubb]

O&O DiskImage 1.0 Build 524 released today!!!

http://www.oo-software.com/en/products/oodiskimage/info/

For XP (32 & 64-bit) and Win2K only. Vista, Win95/98/Me not supported.

-{ Quote: "System Restoration without Creation of a Start CD

For restoring an entire system there is no need for a rescue CD to be created as a Start CD is provided (the so-called 'bare metal' technology). The CD is based on Windows Server 2003 (PE) and contains all the standard Windows drivers so that, on most systems, a complex integration of drivers is not necessary. The option to install additional hard disk control drivers is however still available. Once the Start CD boots up the PC, O&O DiskImage enables the required image to be selected and then fully restored." }-

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[Tommy]

Only 3.5 MB, i will give that a try right now!

[lodore]

-{ Quote: "Only 3.5 MB, i will give that a try right now!" }-
Tommy,
Can you please report back with your experience?
infomation like how much data you backup and how long its takes.
how long the verifying takes.
how the restore disc is
and if the restore works?

I was gonna start a new thread about two imaging programs better than one?

e.g. i was thinking about keeping true image installed but maybe if i have the space creating two images from different programs so if one fails try the other?
or is it a waste of disc space and they could conflict?
with all this talk of acronis images failing and since i have never needed to restore an image i dont know if it woudl restore.

I have no windows cd so i need images to restore. its it better to get something like storagecraft shadowprotect which is fast, good USB2.0 driver support or keep true image and not waste my money but have the risk that my usb 2.0 maxtor one touch III wont be reconised by the rescue cd?
lodore

[Tommy]

-{ Quote: "Tommy,
Can you please report back with your experience?
infomation like how much data you backup and how long its takes.
how long the verifying takes.
how the restore disc is
and if the restore works?

I was gonna start a new thread about two imaging programs better than one?

e.g. i was thinking about keeping true image installed but maybe if i have the space creating two images from different programs so if one fails try the other?
or is it a waste of disc space and they could conflict?
with all this talk of acronis images failing and since i have never needed to restore an image i dont know if it woudl restore.

I have no windows cd so i need images to restore. its it better to get something like storagecraft shadowprotect which is fast, good USB2.0 driver support or keep true image and not waste my money but have the risk that my usb 2.0 maxtor one touch III wont be reconised by the rescue cd?
lodore" }-
I will do a detailed report when i am back home.

[lodore]

-{ Quote: "I will do a detailed report when i am back home." }-

Thanks Tommy

[Rilla927]

This sounds good. I wonder if it does byte by byte verification when you make the image?

If anyone finds out, can you let me know?

Thanks,

[Peter2150]

-{ Quote: "Tommy,
Can you please report back with your experience?
infomation like how much data you backup and how long its takes.
how long the verifying takes.
how the restore disc is
and if the restore works?

I was gonna start a new thread about two imaging programs better than one?

e.g. i was thinking about keeping true image installed but maybe if i have the space creating two images from different programs so if one fails try the other?
or is it a waste of disc space and they could conflict?
with all this talk of acronis images failing and since i have never needed to restore an image i dont know if it woudl restore.

I have no windows cd so i need images to restore. its it better to get something like storagecraft shadowprotect which is fast, good USB2.0 driver support or keep true image and not waste my money but have the risk that my usb 2.0 maxtor one touch III wont be reconised by the rescue cd?
lodore" }-

Since you are asking I don't think there is any conflict, just the space needed to store images. Shadow Protect is an excellent program, and I use it and love it. Also good are Drive Shapshot and IFW/IFD. I also have True Image, and admittedly it has always worked, but I just don't have a warm fuzzy when the progress time indicators still don't work right.

Just be aware that if the Recovery CD is based on WinPe you will have trouble if you are using Nvidia Raid 0 drivers. They won't load even with the F6 option.

Pete

[lodore]

-{ Quote: "Since you are asking I don't think there is any conflict, just the space needed to store images. Shadow Protect is an excellent program, and I use it and love it. Also good are Drive Shapshot and IFW/IFD. I also have True Image, and admittedly it has always worked, but I just don't have a warm fuzzy when the progress time indicators still don't work right.

Just be aware that if the Recovery CD is based on WinPe you will have trouble if you are using Nvidia Raid 0 drivers. They won't load even with the F6 option.

Pete" }-

ok thanks.
its just the money that is a slight problem.
does anyone know if it works with a single Sata one hard drive on a ASUS K8N-E deluxe socket 754 mother board. amd 3200 processor. I think its Nforce 3.
does the recovery CD reconise a Maxtor one touch III?
lodore

[Tommy]

Ok here my experience so far:

Enviorement:
Vaio Laptop
1 GB Mem
50GB HD - (Part. 'C' 20GB - Part. 'D' 30 GB)
Part. 'C' used 7.8 GB
Windows XP SP2 NTFS

Installation:
Without any problem:
- 4 new folders
- 75 new files
- 78 Registry Values
- 4 services and devices

No application running in the background like with ATI.

Backup Part. 'C'
- Backing up to part. 'D'
- Option: Valitading image
- Option: Default compression

CPU usage of O&O during backup 33%
Duration for Backup Part. 'C': ca. 15 min
Duration of Valitading Image: ca. 9 min
Total time: ca. 24 min
Image file size: 5.3 GB

Conclusion:
A solid little application which does what it should do; backup and restore, but no competator to ATI.
- No possibility for rescue disc (at least i found no)
- Very slow
- Bad compression

I personal will continue with ATI even i have to install nearly 60-80 MB more.

[WSFuser]

thanks for the information Tommy. looks like it wasnt the ATI alternative i hoped it was. and with no rescue disc, im not gonna bother with it.

[Tommy]

-{ Quote: "thanks for the information Tommy. looks like it wasnt the ATI alternative i hoped it was. and with no rescue disc, im not gonna bother with it." }-
Hardly with only 3.5 MB, but good for basic backup/restore.

[Chubb]

-{ Quote: "
Duration for Backup Part. 'C': ca. 15 min
Duration of Valitading Image: ca. 9 min
Total time: ca. 24 min
Image file size: 5.3 GB" }-

It's taking too long to do a backup. ATI is much faster.

[Blackcat]

-{ Quote: "It's taking too long to do a backup. ATI is much faster." }-
I am not too concerned about the slightly longer backup times. My main concern is a successful image AND restore.
-{ Quote: " looks like it wasnt the ATI alternative i hoped it was. and with no rescue disc, im not gonna bother with it" }-
They have a bootable O&O DiskImage CD with the retail version which, I believe is their rescue CD. Maybe they need to add the ability to make such a disc with the trial version.

IMO, it seems promising for a first version and the more able competitors for Acronis the better.

[WSFuser]

maybe ill wait for version 2. i kinda forget it is a new comer after all.