which AV has best adware/spyware/trojan real-time detection?

[coldplay]

Which AV has best adware/spyware/trojan real-time detection?

tired of run real-time this that all the time, my task bar is like 1 mile long.

I am gonna try to run 1 real-time shield only, so its gotta be an AV IMO.

dont worry about firewalls, I got it cover with router, hardware/software firewall. dont worry about on demand scanners, i got plenty of them for almost everything.
And I understand AV is not a solution for anti-malwares but they do detect some of them, right.

If I have to run just an AV for real-time shield, which AV would be my best shot.

I got a little poll above , I list 3 free AVs only, plz specific AV it doesnt mention in replies, thank you in advance.

[lodore]

kaspersky.
or antivir
and nod32 being close.
if you want just one real time app its gotta be nod32 or kaspersky no doubt they both have amazing track records and i hope alot of people will agree with me
lodore

[Firefighter]

{QUOTE-> kaspersky.
or antivir
and nod32 being close.
lodore <-QUOTE}If only a free version of these, I guess AVG against ALL kinds of nasty collection. See my post 22. and 27. in here.

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=154014

Best regards,
Firefighter!

[coldplay]

{QUOTE-> If only a free version of these, I guess AVG against ALL kinds of nasty collection. See my post 22. and 27. in here.

Best regards,
Firefighter! <-QUOTE}

why is AVG, can you explain your choice?

according to my research, AVG isn't so good at detecting malwares and it makes sense that AVG only put efforts in its AVG anti-spyware to detect malwares.

[betauser2]

@ coldplay I hope your aware of the fact that the free version of Avira Antivir has no spyware and Adware detection.

If your referring to free AV's then you've missed probably the best in this category Active Virus Shield (AOL's slimmed down FREE offering of Kaspersky AV).

I'm not voting but assuming they were all the free versions above, I would go with Avast (Home). Reason, because it offers the exact same detection as the Pro (paid) version and has more features then the others on the poll.

Otherwise it Active Virus Shield for me. Reason, it detects viruses, worms, rootkits, spyware, adware, dialers, and potentially dangerous software (remote accesss utilities, prank programs, jokes) with KAV detection AND trouble free regular updates, light, etc, etc, I can go on, and on, and on,

[marcromero]

My vote would go to Dr.Web Antivirus, my second choice would be AVG 7.5 Anti-Malware, it includes av + as (ewido) under one scanner and active shield.

[Cadoul]

KAV 6. What else?
Sincerly
Cadoul from France

[Wai_Wai]

My answers (based on objective observations/independent tests, no subjectivity is involved):
Trojan -- Avira Antivir(99.44%), Kaspersky(98.54%)
adware/spyware -- anti-virus programs are generally bad at that, eg:
The top contenders:
‧Trend Micro Anti-Spyware: 71.17%
‧Sunbelt CounterSpy: 68.47%
‧Webroot Spy Sweeper: 65.77%

The bottom:
‧Kaspersky Internet Security: 32.43%
‧NOD32: 30.63%
AVG anti-spyware = Ewido (above average but not the top)
Avast / Antivir (probably bad)

I have made a similar response at http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=153759 (see post #15-19 - it has info about antivirus/firewall/antispyware and test sites where my comment is based on)
Please spend some time and read it. It may be of great benefits to you.

[lodore]

{QUOTE-> My answers (based on objective/independent tests, no subjectivity is involved):
Trojan -- Avira Antivir(99.44%), Kaspersky(98.54%)
adware/spyware -- anti-virus programs are generally bad at that, eg:
The top contenders:
‧Trend Micro Anti-Spyware: 71.17%
‧Sunbelt CounterSpy: 68.47%
‧Webroot Spy Sweeper: 65.77%

The bottom:
‧Kaspersky Internet Security: 32.43%
‧NOD32: 30.63%
AVG anti-spyware = Ewido (above average but not the top)Avast / Antivir (probably bad)

I have made a similar response at http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=153759 (see post #15-19 - it has info about antivirus/firewall/antispyware and test sites where my comment is based on)
Please spend some time and read it. It may be of great benefits to you. <-QUOTE}

agreed.
I would say use two apps.
AV+ either some type of HIPS or antispyware/malware.
it does seem that boclean plus av seems a great combo since boclean cleans up what the av misses.
most av's these days use two processes and hips/antimalware/antipyware use one to two processes.
lodore

[coldplay]

{QUOTE-> @ coldplay I hope your aware of the fact that the free version of Avira Antivir has no spyware and Adware detection.

If your referring to free AV's then you've missed probably the best in this category Active Virus Shield (AOL's slimmed down FREE offering of Kaspersky AV).

I'm not voting but assuming they were all the free versions above, I would go with Avast (Home). Reason, because it offers the exact same detection as the Pro (paid) version and has more features then the others on the poll.

Otherwise it Active Virus Shield for me. Reason, it detects viruses, worms, rootkits, spyware, adware, dialers, and potentially dangerous software (remote accesss utilities, prank programs, jokes) with KAV detection AND trouble free regular updates, light, etc, etc, I can go on, and on, and on, <-QUOTE}

yes, i was referring to free versions of those 3. from screenshot I saw, Active virus shield has aol ads on its interface, I didn't that. thank you for the reminder :)

[TOMxEU]

{QUOTE-> yes, i was referring to free versions of those 3. from screenshot I saw, Active virus shield has aol ads on its interface, I didn't that. thank you for the reminder :) <-QUOTE}
ADs can be ussually blocked by blocking TCP Out in Firewall, but anyway ADs are nasty. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/images/smilies/dry.gif
I would vote for AVS, because if KAV does not detect it (1 day period), then noone does. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
But, if I had to choose, then I would take Avira for realtime & KAV (AVS, MWAV) for ondemand.

[coldplay]

AVG Anti-Malware seems pretty fit

I give up on trying to use 1 real time app. I am using Antivir, SpySweeper for MSN and Comodo FW for real time defense. I am happy with them. If something still sneaks through, I will put up with that thing whatever that is.

[C.S.J]

my vote goes for avg on this,

virus detection has improved with better heuristics and ntfs data streams scanning etc etc.

and with the added ewido now, this has to be a good good thing for malware, add that to the improved avg, and it gets my vote.

im looking forward to the next av-comparatives test results.

[lucas1985]

{QUOTE-> im looking forward to the next av-comparatives test results. <-QUOTE}
A test about PUAs detection is already available. Most AVs score high points

[Wai_Wai]

{QUOTE-> AVG Anti-Malware seems pretty fit

I give up on trying to use 1 real time app. I am using Antivir, SpySweeper for MSN and Comodo FW for real time defense. I am happy with them. If something still sneaks through, I will put up with that thing whatever that is. <-QUOTE}

Good choice. :thumb:

However it is still possible for a malware to bypass all of them. So try to do more to reduce the possibility:
- harden your operating system (Google to find more; you may turn to third-party app like SafeXP (http://www.theorica.net/safexp.htm) if you don't know how to configure)
- run it as a limited-user account (not admin account which is the default one)
- use sandbox to run potentially unsafe app (try sandboxie. It's free. Only run when you need, very light!)
- install HIPS like Prevx1 or Online Armour or Safe’n’Sec (but you won't like that idea since they are resident apps)

[yaggy]

{QUOTE-> Which AV has best adware/spyware/trojan real-time detection?

tired of run real-time this that all the time, my task bar is like 1 mile long.

I am gonna try to run 1 real-time shield only, so its gotta be an AV IMO.

dont worry about firewalls, I got it cover with router, hardware/software firewall. dont worry about on demand scanners, i got plenty of them for almost everything.
And I understand AV is not a solution for anti-malwares but they do detect some of them, right.

If I have to run just an AV for real-time shield, which AV would be my best shot.

I got a little poll above , I list 3 free AVs only, plz specific AV it doesnt mention in replies, thank you in advance. <-QUOTE}

From the three you listed, Antivir would be the one you are looking for. Avast would be second with AVG last.

Based on your post, I'd say the one that best fits your needs would be AVS. Even though the GUI has AOL on it... Who cares, It does what you are looking for and has better detection than the other 3

[lodore]

{QUOTE-> From the three you listed, Antivir would be the one you are looking for. Avast would be second with AVG last.

Based on your post, I'd say the one that best fits your needs would be AVS. Even though the GUI has AOL on it... Who cares, It does what you are looking for and has better detection than the other 3 <-QUOTE}


if anyone goes for active virus shield just dont install the toolbar!
lodore

[tradetime]

In reality I don't know if there is a huge amount of difference between them, I have seen this sort of question on many boards and the answers are the same, it really boils down to personal preference, try them get a feel for them and go with the one you like the best, I use Avast! on two of my computers and AVG on another. I tried AntiVir a few years back and didn't really like it. If I were pushed at the moment I'd probably side with Avast!

[eBBox]

NAV 07

[Rasheed187]

You know I always wondered about this, but I guess it´s correct to assume that standalone anti-spyware apps are still better in catching spyware than AV´s ? I know that back in the days a lot of people claimed that you also needed to run dedicated anti-trojan software, but´s that not the case anymore.

So basically what some of you are saying is that for example AntiVir Premium, NOD32 and KAV/KIS have a lot less spyware signatures in their database, am I correct? And how the hell does AVG AS manage to perform so badly, they even changed their name and stuff, isn´t this a bit misleading? :blink:

[coldplay]

Do I still need a HIPS program ?

{QUOTE-> I am now using antivir PE, Spy Sweeeper for MSN and comodo FW <-QUOTE}

[kdm31091]

It's never a matter of "still" needing a HIPS - you can use JUST an antivirus with no HIPS, or 10 products with no HIPS. HIPS is not nessecary, it's just something many people use for extra control.

[WSFuser]

id say KAV for adware/spyware/trojan detection.

[IBK]

http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/comparatives.html
Detection of potentially unwanted programs

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/comparatives.html
Detection of potentially unwanted programs <-QUOTE}
Yep, the PUP test from AV-comparatives is all you need. But keep in mind that in order to have effective real-time spyware protection, you should use Windows 2000 or XP.

[lodore]

{QUOTE-> Yep, the PUP test from AV-comparatives is all you need. But keep in mind that in order to have effective real-time spyware protection, you should use Windows 2000 or XP. <-QUOTE}


i cant find the pups report where on the site is it and what it called?
lodore

[lodore]

{QUOTE-> id say KAV for adware/spyware/trojan detection. <-QUOTE}

agreed!
lodore

[WSFuser]

click on the link provided by IBK and near the bottom, u should find teh report.

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/3180/sshot1li3.png

[phasechange]

{QUOTE-> yes, i was referring to free versions of those 3. from screenshot I saw, Active virus shield has aol ads on its interface, I didn't that. thank you for the reminder :) <-QUOTE}

Hmmm I have been using this for some time now and cannot see any Adverts at all apart from the AOL logo...

http://ossian.myby.co.uk/avs.png

which isn't that much bigger than the Kaspersky bit and who hangs around in the main antivirus interface anyway. I usually just see this:

http://ossian.myby.co.uk/icon.png

highlighted by red circle for presentation purposes.

I wouldn't call a logo an "ad" I'd say it was no more intrusive than any other AV and a small price for top rate antivirus. This smacks of AOL-phobia to me ;D

Phasechange 8)

[C.S.J]

{QUOTE-> Hmmm I have been using this for some time now and cannot see any Adverts at all apart from the AOL logo...

http://ossian.myby.co.uk/avs.png

which isn't that much bigger than the Kaspersky bit and who hangs around in the main antivirus interface anyway. I usually just see this:

http://ossian.myby.co.uk/icon.png

highlighted by red circle for presentation purposes.

I wouldn't call a logo an "ad" I'd say it was no more intrusive than any other AV and a small price for top rate antivirus. This smacks of AOL-phobia to me ;D

Phasechange 8) <-QUOTE}

hmmm, but the aol version is only free for the first year (so i was told) and ... it doesnt have all features, doesnt even have the proactive defence (or so im told)

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> Hmmm I have been using this for some time now and cannot see any Adverts at all apart from the AOL logo...

http://ossian.myby.co.uk/avs.png

which isn't that much bigger than the Kaspersky bit and who hangs around in the main antivirus interface anyway. I usually just see this:

http://ossian.myby.co.uk/icon.png

highlighted by red circle for presentation purposes.

I wouldn't call a logo an "ad" I'd say it was no more intrusive than any other AV and a small price for top rate antivirus. This smacks of AOL-phobia to me ;D

Phasechange 8) <-QUOTE}
You will only see ad's if you select the AOL toolbar during the install...........most deselect it.

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> hmmm, but the aol version is only free for the first year (so i was told) and ... it doesnt have all features, doesnt even have the proactive defence (or so im told) <-QUOTE}
Hmmmm.... but it kicks AVG & Trend-micro butt even without the PDM. :D

No one knows if it will stay free and so what? You would have used Kaspersky free for a year and who knows you might even have liked it so much that you end up buying it because you want those extra modules!

[ASpace]

{QUOTE-> No one knows if it will stay free <-QUOTE}

No one is too strong word , don't you think ;)

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> No one is too strong word , don't you think ;) <-QUOTE}
Yes, perhaps, but i feel comfortable using it. ;)

[coldplay]

~direct download of pdf removed....Bubba~

from the test result at AV-C.org, I would have to assume avast! 4 home has got the best result in all 4 free AVs(antivir,avast, avg, avs) ?

all the testes are paid version so we dont exactly know how's free version
performance.

antivir free: no spyware/adware detection , it stated clearly on its site
AVG free: no anti-spyware, it stated clearly on its site
avast free : it has most feature of its paid version. Which it lacks seems has nothing to do with anti-spyware.
AVS: I am told its a lame version of Kas. I have no idea how much it gets from Kas.

So avast is pretty much the best PUP detector in freewares and pretty much the worst in paid AVs, right ?


PS. above comments just for the discussion, and they are my assumptions.
I am using antivir free and spysweeper now.

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[SourMilk]

KIS6 works for me.

SourMilk out

[trjam]

Antivir continues to show at the top in all areas. At least for me, it meets all of the criteria of this thread.

[woobook]

Antivir has a top rate in the test of AV-comparatives, but it is a on-demand rate. Nobody can offer a rate based on real-time.

I think the real-time rate is just the most important rate, because nobody scans his hard-drives everyday.

In Oct the test from AV-comparatives show Antivir's rate was 96%, do you think it has 96% of real-time rate?

[IBK]

yes, usually on-demand and on-access rates do not differ much (if at all). on-execution some few products may have higher (prevention) rates (e.g. those that have a registry guard, etc.)

[Rasheed187]

OK so according to the PUP test, it´s not true at all that AV´s perform badly when it comes to detecting spyware and other stuff? Or perhaps you should test with spyware samples alone IBK?
But it´s nice to see that 2 of my favorites (KAV and AntiVir) are doing well. :)

[Chuck57]

I think I picked up a few weeks on my AOL (Kaspersky). I downloaded it when I saw it first listed here, ran it for a while, then took it out and cleaned every trace before trying another, including running a registry cleaner.

When I went back to avs on Nov 15, it now says it expires on Nov 15 2007. The way my old, tired, computer is running lately, I'll be forced into a new one by then, anyway.