View Full Version : NOD32 2.7 beta available for testing
Marcos
October 27th, 2006, 03:43 PM
ESET is proud to present a new beta version of NOD32 2.7 that brings full Windows Vista compatibility as well as significant improvements in terms of detection and cleaning of malware.
New features:
- full Microsoft Windows Vista 32/64-bit compatibility
- new Anti-Stealth technology against active rootkits
- new category for unwanted applications
- improved cleaning of already infected systems
THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW BEFORE YOU START:
1. users with a different language version of NOD32 installed must uninstall their NOD32, restart the computer and delete the program files/eset/install folder before they continue installing this English beta.
2. paying users who have already their username and password for update entered in their NOD32 Control Center should leave the "Use current settings check-box ticked" in order to preserve their username and password, otherwise they must be re-entered again in the NOD32 update setup window.
The beta (Release Candidate) is downloadable from:
Windows 9x/ME:
http://u4.eset.com/rc/nd98enst.exe
Windows NT/2000/XP/2003/Vista (32/64-bit)
http://u4.eset.com/rc/ndntenst.exe
Trial users can download the beta with a temporary username and password embedded from
Windows 9x/ME:
http://u4.eset.com/rc/eval/nd98enst.exe
Windows NT/2000/XP/2003/Vista (32/64-bit)
http://u4.eset.com/rc/eval/ndntenst.exe
Please report any issues found to beta27@eset.com, any positive or negative opinions are welcome in this thread.
We hope that these improvements will contribute to even better protection of your computers.
ESET, spol. s r.o.
SSK
October 27th, 2006, 03:48 PM
YES! Got it... ;D
ThunderZ
October 27th, 2006, 03:51 PM
64 bit :thumb: One more item moving me closer to switching to XP64. Thanks Eset. ;D
Tommy
October 27th, 2006, 03:51 PM
Finaly. Lets grap it :thumb:
Can it be installed over 2.5, or should i first de install the old version?
Brian N
October 27th, 2006, 03:55 PM
yay! :thumb:
FirePost
October 27th, 2006, 04:06 PM
{QUOTE-> Can it be installed over 2.5, or should i first de install the old version? <-QUOTE}{QUOTE-> Paying users who have already NOD32 installed can install the beta over the existing installation of NOD32 in order to preserve current username and password for update. <-QUOTE}It would seem that one can install over the top.
lodore
October 27th, 2006, 04:10 PM
thanks Marcos i will have to try that on my old pc soon.
SSK
October 27th, 2006, 04:10 PM
So far, so good. Did a clean install, memory use looks more or less the same. Full system scan slightly slower / slightly more noticeable on my system.
Testing continues!
Big Apple
October 27th, 2006, 04:19 PM
Installation over the top without any problems. Except, it did not preserve my current username and password, had to enter again, it showed login: beta.etc! Nice new options, so far...so good!
Another step ahead!
Tommy
October 27th, 2006, 04:21 PM
Clean install worked fine, but trayicon won't show up after first start. Will have a look at this later. So far it seams less memory impact and scanning moves faster and with less CPU as 2.5.
So fra first impression is good.
_Rupert_
October 27th, 2006, 04:32 PM
Firstly, massive thanks to the ESET team for working so hard on this excellent product!
So far, everything seems great!
I know what I'm about to say is extremely trivial, but I find it quite annoying all the same, and thought perhaps you could correct this with the release of 2.7.
On the Logs section of the Control Center, I'll compare what you have in the tree on the left to what you get in the right after clicking that item on the tree.
Event Log --- Event log
Threat Log --- Threat Log
NOD32 Scanner Logs --- NOD32 Scanner logs
Would be so greatful if you could just make the L's capital lol :)
trjam
October 27th, 2006, 04:57 PM
got it.
trjam
October 27th, 2006, 05:10 PM
In Nod32 on demand setup I see the new Adware/Spyware/Riskware ability along with Heueristics and Advanced Hueristics.
NOD32 user
October 27th, 2006, 05:11 PM
Thanks for all the hard work ESET.
Looking good :)
PaulBB
October 27th, 2006, 05:26 PM
Thanks, awesome news. Btw what is this?
NOD32 Lite Edition
http://www.eset.sk/produkty/nod32-lite-edition
WSFuser
October 27th, 2006, 05:36 PM
http://www.3000ad.com/ubb/graemlins/w00t.gif, a beta!
maybe ill give it a spin...
trjam
October 27th, 2006, 05:49 PM
Doing a full scan now. Saw a intersting box on intial setup already checked about checking for software that isnt good. It said something more definitive but I didnt pay attention. Guess BS is needed for tweaking, great job Eset. A beta out of you is like finding the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.:)
Triple Helix
October 27th, 2006, 05:50 PM
Looking real good! I like the new features!!
Cheers,;)
TH
Alphalutra1
October 27th, 2006, 06:06 PM
I will give this a test on my pc, even though i don't got a license, but I will take the trial offer and help report any bugs, just because I like this software and all. Great to see it progressing!
Alphalutra1
shek
October 27th, 2006, 06:07 PM
Great job, ESET.
So far so good.
webyourbusiness
October 27th, 2006, 06:10 PM
is there an admin or local mirror version?
trjam
October 27th, 2006, 06:12 PM
Potentially unsafe software applications is the other new tic.
Marcos
October 27th, 2006, 06:15 PM
{QUOTE-> is there an admin or local mirror version? <-QUOTE}
ESET has never provided administrator version as beta. I for one do not think an administrator would put any beta on a production server they use. For testing purposes, standard version is enough as the mirror facility has not changed whatsoever.
webyourbusiness
October 27th, 2006, 06:19 PM
{QUOTE-> ESET has never provided administrator version as beta. I for one do not think an administrator would put any beta on a production server they use. For testing purposes, standard version is enough as the mirror facility has not changed whatsoever. <-QUOTE}
I meant the local mirror version, not the remote administator tools. I have installed the beta 2.7 over the top of my personal desktop machine, and apart from the username/password changing to beta passwords, I've experienced no problems so far.
ctrlaltdelete
October 27th, 2006, 06:26 PM
I tried to install on top of a non-english version, did not work :-\
I noticed 1 screen (the AMON part) in the setup process was in the same language as my Windows is (Dutch).???
Made some pictures during install, u can find them here (http://members.home.nl/ctrlaltdelete/NOD32beta/).
trjam
October 27th, 2006, 06:31 PM
What might this be:
Anti-Stealth technology is enabled.
Scan complete, clean as I was sure it would be. Bug? Wont let me delete the log from the scan, it says "Error deleting NDL479.DAT.Retry?
Panther
October 27th, 2006, 06:39 PM
Probably a bug. While performing a C-scan, this one came up first (see pic):
pc-support
October 27th, 2006, 06:40 PM
All we need now is extinction to update his installer to use this version and the world will be a better place!
Come on extinction, do your stuff....
SSK
October 27th, 2006, 06:40 PM
{QUOTE-> What might this be:
Anti-Stealth technology is enabled. <-QUOTE}
Help file: Use Anti-Stealth technology - if enabled, NOD32 will detect rootkits that uses "stealth" technique to hide away from other programs. ;)
No problem for me deleting the scan Log entry.
trjam
October 27th, 2006, 06:42 PM
Reboot, and it let me delete. Also followed up scan with one from Ewido, oops, AVG, and nothing found. All I know is some strong improvements by Eset, that actually work. The firwall will be what defines them for the future. But if you have not jumped on the bandwagon, you need to. I am really impressed with what they are doing and the direction they are going.
Panther
October 27th, 2006, 06:43 PM
{QUOTE-> Probably a bug. While performing a C-scan, this one came up first (see pic): <-QUOTE}
..and the scan was aborted at the spot - far from ready. See pic:
trjam
October 27th, 2006, 06:47 PM
I disagree. Mine has gone flawlessly. I am really impressed with the way it re-installed over the old one and activated the needed settings. It is almost like Blackspears was included in the download.:)
Panther
October 27th, 2006, 06:50 PM
{QUOTE-> I disagree... <-QUOTE}
If only to avoid confusion: disagree with...?
beethoven
October 27th, 2006, 06:53 PM
Just wondering what happened to the intended Version/ Suite 3?
lodore
October 27th, 2006, 06:58 PM
{QUOTE-> Just wondering what happened to the intended Version/ Suite 3? <-QUOTE}
thats coming after 2.7 and will still be made. 2.7 is the first version to be compatible with vista.
geircito
October 27th, 2006, 07:03 PM
Working good in Vista 5840.
Oh.. one issue: in "Windows Security Center" NOD32 isn't monitored as a firewall.
--
pc-support
October 27th, 2006, 07:40 PM
{QUOTE-> Working good in Vista 5840.
Oh.. one issue: in "Windows Security Center" NOD32 isn't monitored as a firewall.
-- <-QUOTE}
Ermmm, thats because it's not a firewall. It's an antivirus
TJP
October 27th, 2006, 07:47 PM
Hi all,
Installed the Beta about 5 minutes ago...noticed my username & password were changed to the Beta username & p'word.
Anyone else have this happen (I note only one other post mentions this).
Cheers.
gerardwil
October 27th, 2006, 07:50 PM
{QUOTE-> Hi all,
Installed the Beta about 5 minutes ago...noticed my username & password were changed to the Beta username & p'word.
Anyone else have this happen (I note only one other post mentions this).
Cheers. <-QUOTE}
Happened to me as well, not a big issue. Filled in the correct name/passw.
Gerard
TJP
October 27th, 2006, 07:53 PM
gerardwil,
Thanks for the quick response...if its a normal occurrence then I've got nothing to be concerned over :)
I've changed the username & p'word as well.
Cheers.
Firecat
October 27th, 2006, 08:09 PM
{QUOTE-> Just wondering what happened to the intended Version/ Suite 3? <-QUOTE}
Probably it has been delayed to sometime next year. Version 2.7 still offers state-of-the-art protection against all kinds of malware plus Windows Vista compatibility. :)
Chalawah
October 27th, 2006, 08:39 PM
{QUOTE-> Happened to me as well, not a big issue. Filled in the correct name/passw.
Gerard <-QUOTE}
Same for me regarding name/passw. Updated this manually.
Otherwsie straight forward install over existing version went without issue.
First manual scan of C\ completed without problems:)
C = 57.67GB Partition, 13.93GB Used, 41.73GB Free
452530 files scanned
0 threats found
58min 35 seconds total scanning time.
Windows OS Version Info: 148
Windows OS Major Version: 5
Windows OS Minor Version: 1
Windows OS Build: 2600
Athlon XP 2800+ 1GB RAM
Nice one Eset, your time and energy appreciated.
Chalawah;D
aigle
October 27th, 2006, 08:55 PM
Anybody knows how long trial version will work?
Thanks.
veri
October 27th, 2006, 11:56 PM
{QUOTE-> Probably it has been delayed to sometime next year. <-QUOTE}
Well, that sucks. I'm getting antsy to jump to a suite :blink:
doctor IT
October 28th, 2006, 01:59 AM
At least the heuristic have been improved from what I see. I accessed a site and Nod32 2.7 warned me that <<Probably>> is infected with a variant of...I saved the file on Desktop (after I put it into quarantine) and uploaded it to virustotal.com. None of those antiviruses detected any virus in the file. Not even Nod32 2.5. So the only think that remains is to congratulate the whole ESET team. An excellent job :).
fosius
October 28th, 2006, 02:19 AM
I tried to run full system scan of my local HDD. Don't know why but NOD32 on-demand scanner simply disappear and is closed in the middle of the scan. Bug? Anyone else experienced this?
Marcos
October 28th, 2006, 02:52 AM
{QUOTE-> Same for me regarding name/passw. Updated this manually.
<-QUOTE}
Could you confirm that you left the "Use current settings" check-box ticked? Your current username/password would have been preserved then.
gerardwil
October 28th, 2006, 03:07 AM
{QUOTE-> Could you confirm that you left the "Use current settings" check-box ticked? Your current username/password would have been preserved then. <-QUOTE}
In my case yes I can confirm and all other settings indeed remain the same, exept this.
Gerard
Chalawah
October 28th, 2006, 03:25 AM
{QUOTE-> Could you confirm that you left the "Use current settings" check-box ticked? Your current username/password would have been preserved then. <-QUOTE}
Hello Marcos,
Yes, I confirm I most certainly did tick the box to confirm ""Use current settings"
Unfortunately my Name and Psswrd were not transfered.
Rgds,
Chalawah
TJP
October 28th, 2006, 03:36 AM
{QUOTE-> Could you confirm that you left the "Use current settings" check-box ticked? Your current username/password would have been preserved then. <-QUOTE}
I also left the check-box ticked ticked also when installing 2.7 & the beta username & p'word appeared.
Big Apple
October 28th, 2006, 03:36 AM
{QUOTE-> Could you confirm that you left the "Use current settings" check-box ticked? Your current username/password would have been preserved then. <-QUOTE}
I left the "Use current settings" check-box ticked as well, but the user name & password were not preserved. Indeed no big deal, very little effort to change it, but it is a bug, that's all!
Marcos
October 28th, 2006, 04:32 AM
I've added links for trial users who will have a temporary username and password embedded. Paying users should use installers from the original link which will now preserve their username and password:
Windows 9x/ME:
http://u4.eset.com/beta/nd98enst.exe
Windows NT/2000/XP/2003/Vista (32/64-bit)
http://u4.eset.com/beta/ndntenst.exe
NOD32 user
October 28th, 2006, 05:00 AM
{QUOTE-> I've added links for trial users who will have a temporary username and password embedded. Paying users should use installers from the original link which will now preserve their username and password:
Windows 9x/ME:
http://u4.eset.com/beta/nd98enst.exe
Windows NT/2000/XP/2003/Vista (32/64-bit)
http://u4.eset.com/beta/ndntenst.exe <-QUOTE}Thanks again :)
trjam
October 28th, 2006, 05:09 AM
Excution of an external application did not scan overnight. I checked the settings and all were right. It had nothing in the logs. Going to change the time to about 10 minutes from now and see if it starts.
JohnnyBravo
October 28th, 2006, 05:16 AM
Trial Beta :o
haha
only with the NOD32
Marcos
October 28th, 2006, 05:18 AM
{QUOTE-> Trial Beta :o
haha
only with the NOD32 <-QUOTE}
So you would prefer not to allow trial users to test it, right?
fduranti
October 28th, 2006, 05:47 AM
{QUOTE-> Could you confirm that you left the "Use current settings" check-box ticked? Your current username/password would have been preserved then. <-QUOTE}
Same problem here... the box was checked but when I restarted the pc I have a beta user in the update setup.
Ah... one thing before upgrding I have the 2.51.30 (trial with registered username and password) version and not the 2.51.26 version installed
trjam
October 28th, 2006, 05:51 AM
Marcos, I left mine checked for current settings and username said beta. I manually changed it and my password.
Marcos
October 28th, 2006, 06:23 AM
{QUOTE-> Marcos, I left mine checked for current settings and username said beta. I manually changed it and my password. <-QUOTE}
That's because you didn't install it after I posted links for both the users who already have a commercial version installed and those who are trialing NOD32 and thus do not have any username and password.
So now there are 2 versions - one with a temporary username/password embedded and the other one which is a standard commercial version installer with no temporary username/password.
CJsDad
October 28th, 2006, 06:39 AM
Clean install, user name and password went in with no problem, running fine.
trjam
October 28th, 2006, 06:45 AM
{QUOTE-> That's because you didn't install it after I posted links for both the users who already have a commercial version installed and those who are trialing NOD32 and thus do not have any username and password.
So now there are 2 versions - one with a temporary username/password embedded and the other one which is a standard commercial version installer with no temporary username/password. <-QUOTE}
I understand, I was one of the first to try and grab it.
PnP
October 28th, 2006, 06:49 AM
very good running fine with outpost 4.0 :)
basti
October 28th, 2006, 07:21 AM
Marcos, is it now possible to set NOD with one click to max. protection ? And, What's about deleting of an virus etc. like the Test-Virus Eicar from archives ?
smith2006
October 28th, 2006, 07:52 AM
Thanks, I have no problem installing NOD32 2.7 Beta on top of NOD32 2.5.26.
Marcos
October 28th, 2006, 07:57 AM
{QUOTE-> Marcos, is it now possible to set NOD with one click to max. protection ? And, What's about deleting of an virus etc. like the Test-Virus Eicar from archives ? <-QUOTE}
NOD32 is set for maximum protection with default settings. During installation, you can decide yourself whether to detect potentially unwanted applications or not. It does not mean that having potentially unsafe applications (PUA) disabled by default makes your computer less protected. PUA only covers commercial applications that serve usually for remote administration purposes and normally should remain disabled.
As for deleting archives automatically, set the on-demand scanner to delete whole archives when a threat is found in an archive.
Donald®
October 28th, 2006, 08:09 AM
Not full compatibility with Windows Vista Build 5744 - RC2, Task Scheduler no runs ok after NOD32 2.7 installation:
Appers in the Event Viewer all boot times:
ERROR: Task Scheduler service has encountered RPC initialization error in "RpcServerUseProtseq:ncacn_ip_tcp". Additional Data: Error Value: 14.
Source: Task Scheduler
Event ID: 404
Task Category: Service RPC error
Level: Critical
Uninstalling NOD32 the Task Scheduler runs OK again, with no errors. :dry:
aigle
October 28th, 2006, 08:23 AM
{QUOTE-> So you would prefer not to allow trial users to test it, right? <-QUOTE}
So how long is the trial period?
basti
October 28th, 2006, 08:27 AM
And btw. how long is the Beta Phase ? Better said, when will ESET release the localized language Versions ?
ASpace
October 28th, 2006, 08:32 AM
{QUOTE-> And btw. how long is the Beta Phase ? <-QUOTE}
It was mentioned that version 2.7 of the product (final version ready for all kind of users) is expected to appear in November . When they find the beta version is finished , the software really stable and absolutely working = ready , they will push it available and even via the updates to all existing users
iwod
October 28th, 2006, 09:10 AM
{QUOTE-> Clean install worked fine, but trayicon won't show up after first start. Will have a look at this later. So far it seams less memory impact and scanning moves faster and with less CPU as 2.5.
So fra first impression is good. <-QUOTE}
I cant say scanning speed is faster or not compare to 2.5 since 2.5 never worked on vista.
CPU resources is very low. Again i cant compare to 2.5 if there are actually any improvement but dont expect much since it is already one of the lowest resources AV.
Memory: I can definitely say there is no improvement. In fact it uses slightly more memory then 2.5. However it is still one of the lowest resources usage AV available.
Littlemutt
October 28th, 2006, 09:12 AM
{QUOTE-> I've added links for trial users who will have a temporary username and password embedded. Paying users should use installers from the original link which will now preserve their username and password:
Windows 9x/ME:
http://u4.eset.com/beta/nd98enst.exe
Windows NT/2000/XP/2003/Vista (32/64-bit)
http://u4.eset.com/beta/ndntenst.exe <-QUOTE}
What is the username/password for trial users ? Otherwise, we can't get updates????
ASpace
October 28th, 2006, 09:17 AM
{QUOTE-> What is the username/password for trial users ? Otherwise, we can't get updates???? <-QUOTE}
Answer
{QUOTE-> I've added links for trial users who will have a temporary username and password embedded. Paying users should use installers from the original link which will now preserve their username and password <-QUOTE}
Littlemutt
October 28th, 2006, 09:39 AM
{QUOTE-> Answer <-QUOTE}
thanks, but that was my point - I did not at the time have the 'trial' version installed, thus there was no embedded username/password to pick up.
I installed the 2.5 trial, then installed the beta over the top - now its working.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20061027 Minefield/3.0a1 Firefox/1.5.0.7 ID:2006102704 [cairo]
ASpace
October 28th, 2006, 09:41 AM
{QUOTE-> thanks
<-QUOTE} You are welcome
Kielty
October 28th, 2006, 10:03 AM
Beta 2.7 installed perfectly. No issues. seems faster than v2.5...
475535 files in 30 mins (75gb) v 2.5 would have taken about 45-50 mins.
Athlon xp 4000
250gb Hitachi deskstar hd
2gb ram
Brian N
October 28th, 2006, 10:17 AM
{QUOTE-> Beta 2.7 installed perfectly. No issues. seems faster than v2.5... <-QUOTE}
Yeah it scanned my stuff in 10mins, usually takes 13-16 :)
uc-icq
October 28th, 2006, 10:40 AM
Way to go, eset. The new features indeed sound exciting. Since it's a beta, I might as well skip this one. Yes I'm sort of paranoid
Brian N
October 28th, 2006, 10:42 AM
Is anyone elses event log completely blank? Mine is and it's weird, it's usually full of stuff in there :)
Wake2
October 28th, 2006, 11:02 AM
I downloaded the Nod beta version, did a over the top install,
experienced no problems, and all settings including the user
name and password were kept intact, program updated new
anti virus definitions auto immediately after reboot, and scan
time was noticeably faster, the beta version gets along nicely
with BOC and PG, all in all this is a very nice beta, and I am
looking forward to the final release.
Brian N I checked event log mines logging fine no problems.
Regards,
Wake
Kielty
October 28th, 2006, 11:11 AM
{QUOTE-> Is anyone elses event log completely blank? Mine is and it's weird, it's usually full of stuff in there :) <-QUOTE}
Only 1 entry re NOD32 kernel having submitted statistical info..
NOD32 user
October 28th, 2006, 12:12 PM
{QUOTE-> thanks, but that was my point - I did not at the time have the 'trial' version installed, thus there was no embedded username/password to pick up.
I installed the 2.5 trial, then installed the beta over the top - now its working.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20061027 Minefield/3.0a1 Firefox/1.5.0.7 ID:2006102704 [cairo] <-QUOTE}Try using the 2.7 beta trial - it has the username and password already embedded so there is no need to already have a username and password for it to pick up. In fact in this case it should be better to install 2.7 beta trial as a clean install and not over the top of a 2.5 trial version.
HTH
Cheers :)
covaro
October 28th, 2006, 12:13 PM
Beautiful release. I like the "upgrade" ability and keeping all my settings intact. I also like the new prompts on the first run about Potentially Unwanted Apps.
I do have one question:
I assume (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that Potentially Unwanted Apps is for Adware/etc and Pontentially Unsafe Apps is for network management tools and the like that can be used for nefarious purposes?
Keep up the good Work Eset. Off to play with the new version.
-Cov
Brian N
October 28th, 2006, 12:30 PM
{QUOTE-> I assume (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that Potentially Unwanted Apps is for Adware/etc and Pontentially Unsafe Apps is for network management tools and the like that can be used for nefarious purposes? <-QUOTE}
Potentially unwanted applications are programs that might not actually pose a security risk; these applications usually require a user's consent before installation. They may affect your system's behavior in the following ways:
a) showing windows that would normally not open
b) activation and running of processes hidden to the user
c) increased consumption of system resources
d) change of search results
e) communication with the application provider servers
Potentially unsafe applications - enables detection of commercial programs which might be exploited for malicious purposes, etc. (e.g. tools for remote access and administration)
^ From the help file, and does sound like Adware stuff :)
lodore
October 28th, 2006, 12:42 PM
with nod32 2.7 beta has the cleaning improved? so not as many manual removals?
izi
October 28th, 2006, 12:46 PM
Hello!
Great job ESET!!!
How good is Anti-Stealth technology?
Marcos
October 28th, 2006, 12:59 PM
With Anti-Stealth disabled, these nasties are invisible to Windows, NOD32 and other AV programs :)
iNsuRRecTioN
October 28th, 2006, 01:25 PM
{QUOTE-> At least the heuristic have been improved from what I see. I accessed a site and Nod32 2.7 warned me that <<Probably>> is infected with a variant of...I saved the file on Desktop (after I put it into quarantine) and uploaded it to virustotal.com. None of those antiviruses detected any virus in the file. Not even Nod32 2.5. So the only think that remains is to congratulate the whole ESET team. An excellent job :). <-QUOTE}
Hey,
yes, but it could be a possible FP also.. :P
{QUOTE->
Memory: I can definitely say there is no improvement. In fact it uses slightly more memory then 2.5. However it is still one of the lowest resources usage AV available. <-QUOTE}
Maybe, but not THE one with the lowest resource usage anymore..!
Eset claim that on their homepage and comparisons, but e.g. KAV 6/2006 uses fewer resources, like below 10 MB of RAM and NOD32's RAM comsumption is above 15 MB, sometimes even around 20 MB of RAM.. :-\
They should improve it, in order that NOD32 use a max. of 10 MB of RAM and if idle below 10 MB.. :isay: :)
Or they can't longer claim that NOD32 have the lowest resource usage on the market.. :P ;) :shifty:
best regards,
iNsuRRecTiON
DavidCo
October 28th, 2006, 01:43 PM
iNsuRRecTioN
As a matter of interest, what do all these security packages use in total.
Resources should include virtual mem (etc) too.
I have no idea about this, just wondered.
:)
blaine
October 28th, 2006, 02:27 PM
Can anyone reproduce my problem where Vista's built in defragmenter will no longer open if NOD32 2.7 is installed? :'(
n8chavez
October 28th, 2006, 02:41 PM
{QUOTE-> Hey, Maybe, but not THE one with the lowest resource usage anymore..!
Eset claim that on their homepage and comparisons, but e.g. KAV 6/2006 uses fewer resources, like below 10 MB of RAM and NOD32's RAM comsumption is above 15 MB, sometimes even around 20 MB of RAM.. :-\
They should improve it, in order that NOD32 use a max. of 10 MB of RAM and if idle below 10 MB.. :isay: :) <-QUOTE}
Well I think this might be a bit unrealistic, but if it's possible I'm all for it. I too have noticed that resource usage, both ram and disk space have gone up with 2.7. Also, amon seems a little heavier. I like the new features but am afraid of what version 3 will be if 2.7, which is a precursor to version 3, is heavier.
And it seems like the on-demand scanner is taking a little bit longer to scan.
pjb
October 28th, 2006, 03:10 PM
Works well for me on my XP machine.
Looking forward to the final release. :)
izi
October 28th, 2006, 03:17 PM
{QUOTE-> With Anti-Stealth disabled, these nasties are invisible to Windows, NOD32 and other AV programs :) <-QUOTE}
Hello!
Is this active (running) rootkit?
mark.eleven
October 28th, 2006, 03:22 PM
I downloaded the trial version of NOD2.7 . Cool,... faster in-depth scan than ver 2.5.
But I can't get any update, my latest virus definition is still 1.1842 (27 Oct 2006).
What's the latest virus definition ?
izi
October 28th, 2006, 03:25 PM
{QUOTE-> I downloaded the trial version of NOD2.7 . Cool,... faster in-depth scan than ver 2.5.
But I can't get any update, my latest virus definition is still 1.1842 (27 Oct 2006).
What's the latest virus definition ? <-QUOTE}
You have latest virus definitions.
Brian N
October 28th, 2006, 03:30 PM
{QUOTE-> Hello!
Is this active (running) rootkit? <-QUOTE}
From the help file:
Enable Anti-Stealth technology - Enables NOD32 to detect rootkits that uses "stealth" technique to hide away from other programs.
Chris12923
October 28th, 2006, 03:55 PM
When manual scan is ran after only a few seconds the scan window closes. I have sent email to eset with system info attached.
Thanks,
Chris
ASpace
October 28th, 2006, 04:28 PM
{QUOTE-> When manual scan is ran after only a few seconds the scan window closes. I have sent email to eset with system info attached.
<-QUOTE}
There is an active thread about this in the BETA forum:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=152266
Hope ESET resolve it fast :thumb:
WWS
October 28th, 2006, 04:29 PM
I was hoping that the method of excluding files/folders
in "Scanning Targets" would have been make easier...
like it is in Perfect Disk.
Jaska
October 28th, 2006, 04:31 PM
Does this beta version update automatically to newer betas/final version or must I download and install them separately?
NOD32 user
October 28th, 2006, 04:35 PM
{QUOTE-> Does this beta version update automatically to newer betas/final version or must I download and install them separately? <-QUOTE}Not sure Jaska, but it looks like you should be able to easily install over to update even if that is necessary.
Cheers :)
Chris12923
October 28th, 2006, 04:35 PM
{QUOTE-> There is an active thread about this in the BETA forum:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=152266
Hope ESET resolve it fast :thumb: <-QUOTE}
Thank you. I will post there as I am using GreenBorder as well.
ASpace
October 28th, 2006, 04:38 PM
{QUOTE-> Thank you. I will post there as I am using GreenBorder as well. <-QUOTE}
You are welcome . Please , keep us informed if there is an imporvement ;)
Chris12923
October 28th, 2006, 04:38 PM
{QUOTE-> You are welcome . Please , keep us informed if there is an imporvement ;) <-QUOTE}
Sure will!
Thanks,
Chris
DE Retiree
October 28th, 2006, 04:55 PM
Downloaded and installed over top of version 2.5. Looks good so far and seems compatible with Webroot SpySweeper 5.0, Comodo Firewall 2.3.6.81, and HostsMan.
... DE Retiree
Kryspy
October 28th, 2006, 05:37 PM
Best question yet..... why isn't a beta topic in the beta forum ????
Kryspy
PatG
October 28th, 2006, 07:10 PM
DL'd and installed on my win2k system. Installed so fast thought something was amiss until it asked for reboot. Beta, IMO, is about 15% faster than the 2.5 version, at least on my machine. Am just so proud of ESET and NOD32 residing on my computer! 8) Thanks for your very necessary work/development to bring this OUTSTANDING program to us. :thumb:
n8chavez
October 29th, 2006, 12:44 AM
Hats off to ESET on this one. I don't always like them, and don't always agree with what they say, or don't say. But this is a truly outstanding product. It is a little heavier though. But chaulk that up as constrictive criticism.
Nice work ;D
Nate
iwod
October 29th, 2006, 03:55 AM
{QUOTE-> Hey,
Maybe, but not THE one with the lowest resource usage anymore..!
Eset claim that on their homepage and comparisons, but e.g. KAV 6/2006 uses fewer resources, like below 10 MB of RAM and NOD32's RAM comsumption is above 15 MB, sometimes even around 20 MB of RAM.. :-\
They should improve it, in order that NOD32 use a max. of 10 MB of RAM and if idle below 10 MB.. :isay: :)
Or they can't longer claim that NOD32 have the lowest resource usage on the market.. :P ;) :shifty:
best regards,
iNsuRRecTiON <-QUOTE}
I have already posted a few times on resource usage measurement in this forum. But to sum it up,
1. Dont use Windows build in task Manager, try Process Explorer from Sysinternal.
2. You must look at the Virtual Size of the process as well. NOD32 only uses around 150Mb total while KAV constantly over 200Mb.
3. Those number for memory used by NOD32 are 100% accurate. Every program will release memory when the OS needs it. The minimum memory i saw NOD32 required was around 4Mb in total ( including UI ) While KAS is already using its minimum memory. So why not follow KAS and uses minimum amount of memory all time? Becoz that means the program will have to fetch data from VM if it is not loaded in its memory and therefore more HDD read and write.
4. I dont know if Eset ever claim NOD to uses the lowest resources in the AV industry. But they surely aren't too far. ( With AntiVir and Fprot lower then them, but both lack Web Scanner etc )
And resource usage aren't just the measurement of memory usage. Example ( Resources Numbers are made up ) , if KAV uses only 10Mb memory but 10% of your CPU time while NOD uses 15Mb memory and only 1% of CPU time; Which one is using least resources usage? To me the answer is very clear, but different people may have different interpretation of "low resources usage".
Sorry to be slightly off topic but from time to time it is good to clear things up.
Back to 2.7
I have to agree on scanning speed has improved as well. NOD was already one of the fastest scanning AV before 2.7 and this surely makes it the fastest? ;D
Very Smooth on my Vista RC2. No problem experienced so far. I dont know if they did anything to web scanner but i no longer experience the slight lag in displaying web pages.
Anti-Stealth technology - very nice tech to keep us save from rootkits :D
Apart from the slow start up ( Which has already been mentioned ) 2.7 is working nice on my machine
Kielty
October 29th, 2006, 04:05 AM
{QUOTE->
Back to 2.7
I have to agree on scanning speed has improved as well. NOD was already one of the fastest scanning AV before 2.7 and this surely makes it the fastest? ;D
<-QUOTE}
I agree, resource usage may be slightly up for some down for others but who cares? as far as i am concerned v2.7 is faster on my machine and very slick..
trjam
October 29th, 2006, 05:23 AM
{QUOTE-> Thank you. I will post there as I am using GreenBorder as well. <-QUOTE}
Yep, I had to dump the beta and roll back to the previous version. Greenborder and Nod work fine so it is in the beta, hope they resolve it soon.
rdsu
October 29th, 2006, 05:26 AM
Good work, ESET Team!
I just install it on the last night, and it is working well, like always, until now...
I will try the new feature Anti-Stealth later...
:thumb:
Bob
October 29th, 2006, 05:31 AM
The "old" NOD32 was slower than FSIS2007 (on my system).
This one with Counterspy beta is faster than anything and gives no problems .
My computer is in the hands of 2 beta releases and a hardware firewall.
asyland
October 29th, 2006, 05:37 AM
Installed last night. Checked "Use Current Settings" and the install went off without a hitch. Took only seconds to upgrade. Memory usage is only up by 2 MB on my machine, (virtual size is 111 MB according to Process Explorer) and I haven't noticed any drag in performance. I've just been playing FEAR: Extraction Point with NOD in the background, and there was no performance hit in the game at all. This is hands down the best AV for gamers I've ever seen. Scanning is fast, and NOD is getting along fine with Comodo, Prevx1, and Regdefend. Thanks for a great AV, and I look forward to the suite, can't wait.
codam
October 29th, 2006, 07:30 AM
I've installed the beta without any previous version of NOD32 on my computer, but I can't update because I don't have a username and password.
I see that it might work if I install a trial beforehand and then the beta on top, but I'm running Vista, so can't install version 2.5 trial.
Is there a trial username and password I can use?
ronjor
October 29th, 2006, 08:05 AM
{QUOTE-> Is there a trial username and password I can use? <-QUOTE}http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=869713&postcount=52
NOD32 user
October 29th, 2006, 08:08 AM
{QUOTE-> I've installed the beta without any previous version of NOD32 on my computer, but I can't update because I don't have a username and password.
I see that it might work if I install a trial beforehand and then the beta on top, but I'm running Vista, so can't install version 2.5 trial.
Is there a trial username and password I can use? <-QUOTE}Hi codam,
You should try the trial version of the Beta - it has a username and password already embedded.
Cheers :)
pykko
October 29th, 2006, 08:47 AM
I have installed it. So far... only the RAM used seems to be a little increased. I"ve seen nod32krn going to 39 MB, but generally it stays to 22 MB. :) Scanning is faster and AH seems to be improved... another build different from 2.5 one.
codam
October 29th, 2006, 08:47 AM
Thank you! I'm an idiot..
Hazeleyze
October 29th, 2006, 08:59 AM
{QUOTE-> Thank you! I'm an idiot.. <-QUOTE}
No, you're not. In our haste to get things, sometimes we just overlook the obvious.
Installed Nod 2.7 over the top of 2.5 and it's running great with no problems.
cprtech
October 29th, 2006, 10:05 AM
Installed over top 2.5 and running splendidly.
aigle
October 29th, 2006, 12:54 PM
I downloaded it from the link posted by Marcos but it did not generate any user name or key and i am unable to update it.
I don,t feel any good. Why a key for the beta?( very brilliant idea for a beta).
How to update it now as it is asking for the key.
iNsuRRecTioN
October 29th, 2006, 12:56 PM
{QUOTE-> I have already posted a few times on resource usage measurement in this forum. But to sum it up,
1. Dont use Windows build in task Manager, try Process Explorer from Sysinternal.
2. You must look at the Virtual Size of the process as well. NOD32 only uses around 150Mb total while KAV constantly over 200Mb.
3. Those number for memory used by NOD32 are 100% accurate. Every program will release memory when the OS needs it. The minimum memory i saw NOD32 required was around 4Mb in total ( including UI ) While KAS is already using its minimum memory. So why not follow KAS and uses minimum amount of memory all time? Becoz that means the program will have to fetch data from VM if it is not loaded in its memory and therefore more HDD read and write.
4. I dont know if Eset ever claim NOD to uses the lowest resources in the AV industry. But they surely aren't too far. ( With AntiVir and Fprot lower then them, but both lack Web Scanner etc )
And resource usage aren't just the measurement of memory usage. Example ( Resources Numbers are made up ) , if KAV uses only 10Mb memory but 10% of your CPU time while NOD uses 15Mb memory and only 1% of CPU time; Which one is using least resources usage? To me the answer is very clear, but different people may have different interpretation of "low resources usage".
<-QUOTE}
Hey,
maybe on your system but you're wrong!
In my system KAV 2006 uses below 10 MB RAM most the time, while NOD32 uses above 15 MB (v2.5, 2.7 little more..) most the time and the amount don't change between different "task managers" so much on my system and all that after a clean boot, so they need to rework and optimize in this area..
Code optimizing and improved memory handling is really needed and important here. :dry:
And they really claim, believe me!
And what about this here?! ??? , look:
http://www.eset.com/products/index.php
(at bottom):
{QUOTE-> Smallest Footprint
NOD32 conserves resources on disk and in memory, leaving more for your critical applications. The installer is just 8.6 MB and the application takes up less than 20 MB in memory (this fluctuates with changes to the detection technology). ThreatSense updates, which includes heuristics logic and signatures, are usually between 20 kB and 50 kB. Switch to NOD32 and reclaim precious resources. <-QUOTE}
And again here:
http://www.eset.com/products/compare.php
(at bottom with graph)
(direct link: http://www.eset.com/products/compare.php#smallest)
{QUOTE-> Lowest Resource Utilization
* NOD32 is by far one of the smallest applications in the industry, especially for providing protection against such a wide range of threats. The NOD32 v2.5 installer is just 8.6 MB
* The program utilizes approximately 15 to 22 MB of RAM. This, along with intelligent caching reduces disk access and memory paging, adding to performance. (Source: Scott Brown, Colby Sawyer Case Study, November 2004) <-QUOTE}
So, they claim themselves usage of RAM between that what I already said and again, other products, like Kaspersky Anti Virus 6 aka 2006 uses lower RAM, their RAM utilization is below 10 MB..! :P :isay:
Think about it..
best regards,
iNsuRRecTiON
i_kenefick
October 29th, 2006, 01:22 PM
{QUOTE-> So, they claim themselves usage of RAM between that what I already said and again, other products, like Kaspersky Anti Virus 6 aka 2006 uses lower RAM, their RAM utilization is below 10 MB..! :P :isay:
Think about it..
<-QUOTE}
Lets say that Antivirus X uses less physical memory... who cares? This is one metric. NOD's engine throughput is massive by comparison to others which is more important then a couple of MB more RAM consumed.
Elwood
October 29th, 2006, 01:22 PM
Running good in WinME here. Installed over the top of 2.5 and kept settings (no need to re-enter username/password). System scan took several minutes less than with 2.5 (from about 27 minutes down to about 20).
System performance seems to be just as good as with 2.5, which is excellent. Memory usage is slightly higher, from about 10MB with 2.5 to about 10.76MB with 2.7 Beta.
Marcos
October 29th, 2006, 01:24 PM
Removing advanced heuristics and old threat signatures would save a couple of MB :)
Just kidding
NOD32 user
October 29th, 2006, 06:05 PM
{QUOTE-> Removing advanced heuristics and old threat signatures would save a couple of MB :)
Just kidding <-QUOTE}/me snickering ;D
iNsuRRecTioN
October 29th, 2006, 06:06 PM
{QUOTE-> Lets say that Antivirus X uses less physical memory... who cares? This is one metric. NOD's engine throughput is massive by comparison to others which is more important then a couple of MB more RAM consumed. <-QUOTE}
Hey,
nope, it's all about efficiency, and who wants to compete with the other AV soft out there, which is maybe more efficient in this particular area, then Eset must either reengineer that and bring it to the same or better level, or can't no longer claim, the lowest/smallest (RAM) footprint..! :P :shifty:
If you don't understand that or what I mean or what's the point and case, then please don't responst to that, thx.
best regards,
iNsuRRecTiON
WizardMaster
October 29th, 2006, 06:07 PM
Wonderful NOD32 v2.7 BETA coming a more improvement than previous v2.5. She scanned found a another few infection from Outlook Express Inbox Data. I thought v2.5 didn't it. I feel bit weird !! :-\ Well, So I pleased the v2.7 is better performance scanner about less 38 seconds off than previous version. (Maybe increase lots numbers of files)
We will wait for heard a new version 3.0 Security Suite. I quote say "Optional will Little extra cost for upgrade to 3.0 Security Suite with exist licence will replace a new licence key for v3.0 as possible"
This v2.7 are :thumb: ;) :thumb:
ragnarok
October 29th, 2006, 07:04 PM
found a bug, only the windows shown as update, NOD32, IMON, DMON AND EMON in control center window are the ones "incomplete", other ones are complete/normal, i installed over version 2.51.30 (english).
using windows xp w/sp2, no graphics card.
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/1507/bugka9.jpg
BlueZannetti
October 29th, 2006, 07:14 PM
{QUOTE-> maybe on your system but you're wrong!
In my system KAV 2006 uses below 10 MB RAM most the time, while NOD32 uses above 15 MB (v2.5, 2.7 little more..) most the time and the amount don't change between different "task managers" so much on my system and all that after a clean boot, so they need to rework and optimize in this area.. <-QUOTE}Obviously, there will be a dependence of RAM usage and general resource footprint on machine specifics including OS setup and other running processes. Just to provide one objective snapshot of NOD32 vs, for example, KAV applicable to a single PC, the composite image depicts RAM/VM usage from the same boot partition where the only difference was the specific AV installed. Each shot was taken after install/reboot with no difference in any of the other launched applications. Completely default installations for both products. Both are the latest beta versions of the respective products.
My personal opinion, if you either posturing about, worried about, or making purchase decisions based on these differences, you're focusing on the wrong target from either side of the fence.
Blue
aigle
October 30th, 2006, 12:10 AM
Nice to see.
Also I agree I will not mind the numbers unless they ae big enough.
xandros
October 30th, 2006, 01:32 AM
thanx for new ver of Nod32 , i will try it today.
scaa
October 30th, 2006, 05:29 AM
update worked like a breeeeze. Could not believe that it hardly needed any intervention.
Only thing I want to know is whether the improvements are activated by default or some settings are needed to be tweaked
aigle
October 30th, 2006, 05:56 AM
But I don,t see any change in GUI. It needs to be user friendly.
Marcos
October 30th, 2006, 06:05 AM
{QUOTE-> But I don,t see any change in GUI. It needs to be user friendly. <-QUOTE}
It has been known that the giu will be changed in NOD32 v3. This is still version 2.x, hence the gui is still same.
aigle
October 30th, 2006, 06:26 AM
Ah, I did not know that. Thnaks.
FanJ
October 30th, 2006, 03:47 PM
A positive comment:
Installed the 2.7 beta a few days ago on my XP-home machine (Dutch with English version of NOD32), over the top of my existing version.
Everything fine !!! No problem with scanning, no problem with updating the defs today.
Thanks Eset !!!
Keep up the good work !
leehigdon3
October 30th, 2006, 04:48 PM
{QUOTE-> Clean install worked fine, but trayicon won't show up after first start. Will have a look at this later. So far it seams less memory impact and scanning moves faster and with less CPU as 2.5.
So fra first impression is good. <-QUOTE}
Same as I found. I am running Win2000 Pro SP4.
xandros
October 30th, 2006, 07:51 PM
after trying nod32 beta
its very smart and fast, i just try 18 hour
so every thing working good with nod32 beta
no problems untile now
its good
good job nod32 team
and i will talk about kav or kis 2006 , its not fast and its slow my pc
and when you do any thing for example if you want to open program the cpuage will be 100% , so for what i will use kav or kis ? to make my pc slow ? im not fbi to use this program kis or kav , im normal user
and nod32 very smart its working fast and normal.
thanx
i will keep trying and if i have any problem with nod32 beta i will tell you.
i forget to tell you about my pc
windows xp pro sp2
1gb ram
1500 intel cpu
mark.eleven
October 30th, 2006, 08:21 PM
I have been testing NOD32 2.7 since last Saturday. Prior to this, I was using trial of KAV6.
RAM usage of NOD32 2.7 is slightly higher at an average of 18 - 20 MB. KAV uses about 12MB. But you'll still feel that NOD is much lighter. Startup of NOD is also lighter.
Deep scanning of my harddisk using NOD32 2.7 takes around only 20 minutes, slightly faster than NOD32 2.5 . Compared to KAV, KAV takes more than 2 hours to complete deep scanning my harddisk.
Last week, my PC was infected with a trojan horse that KAV missed, but NOD detected it.
Overall, I'd give NOD a thumb up for this new version.
Littlemutt
October 30th, 2006, 09:56 PM
Cannot update, states no username/password. Guess trial users still can't update... There is NO embedded username/password in the beta download.
I've stated this before, as has others...
Blackspear
October 30th, 2006, 10:33 PM
{QUOTE-> Cannot update, states no username/password. Guess trial users still can't update... There is NO embedded username/password in the beta download.
I've stated this before, as has others... <-QUOTE}I have asked for someone from Eset to take a look at this.
Cheers ;D
ctrlaltdelete
October 30th, 2006, 11:10 PM
As far as i can see there is a username & password in the beta's for trial users (use the downloadlink with "eval" in it).
mark.eleven
October 31st, 2006, 12:01 AM
{QUOTE-> Cannot update, states no username/password. Guess trial users still can't update... There is NO embedded username/password in the beta download.
I've stated this before, as has others... <-QUOTE}
I am using the trial beta and I can update. This morning just updated to signature 1.1843 and moment ago, updated to 1.1844.
DVD+R
October 31st, 2006, 01:01 AM
I was just about to submit a post about version 2.51 not scrolling any more when doing manual scans, then I noticed this Beta release, Problem solved, it scrolls now no problem :D
shanijee
October 31st, 2006, 05:27 AM
i install nod32 2.7 Beta
it eating too much my ram
aigle
October 31st, 2006, 05:41 AM
Anybody having problem with the generation of user name and key can download trial of beta from here.
http://u4.eset.com/beta/eval/ndntenst.exe
aigle
October 31st, 2006, 05:44 AM
Resource usage on my system( XP Home SP2). Is it OK?
pykko
October 31st, 2006, 06:01 AM
it's OK aigle. The same for me. :)
aigle
October 31st, 2006, 07:17 AM
Thanks.
I am using NOD first time. I enabled all option( max security), no slow down.
Did a usual system sacn and another deep scan. It,s fast.
Don,t know whether they have got any improvement in spyware/ adware detection than before? Also anybody tried it against rootkits?
fosius
October 31st, 2006, 09:11 AM
{QUOTE-> i install nod32 2.7 Beta
it eating too much my ram <-QUOTE}
Just wonder why you think that NVIDIA Driver helper belongs to NOD32?
farmerlee
October 31st, 2006, 09:15 AM
The ram usage is around the same, maybe a few mbs more but you gotta expect that i guess with the extra features. It still runs light which is awesome.
aigle
October 31st, 2006, 09:34 AM
{QUOTE-> Just wonder why you think that NVIDIA Driver helper belongs to NOD32? <-QUOTE}
That,s just a simple mistake while editing the screenshot.
pykko
October 31st, 2006, 10:36 AM
Well, the new beta eats about 2-3 MB RAm more than 2.5 but that's not sucha big problem. :) It seems to be faster on my system.. for on-demand scanner at least. ;)
I had a little hang while accesing an infected website, just before IMON prompted me, but maybe it's my system also, not NOD32.
SpySentinel
October 31st, 2006, 05:54 PM
It will not let me download. I get a page saying Connection failed
ronjor
October 31st, 2006, 06:06 PM
{QUOTE-> It will not let me download. <-QUOTE}
Give it a few hours. The janitor probably unplugged the server. :D
ctrlaltdelete
October 31st, 2006, 06:07 PM
LOL ;D
Littlemutt
October 31st, 2006, 06:25 PM
Seems from this thread: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=152738 that the server that has the beta is down as its coming from u4.eset.com
Hermescomputers
October 31st, 2006, 08:16 PM
Errr... the links don't work for me... any idea?
Cant download it...
ronjor
October 31st, 2006, 08:23 PM
Give it a few hours Hermescomputers. :thumb:
NOD32 user
October 31st, 2006, 09:00 PM
{QUOTE-> Thanks.
I am using NOD first time. I enabled all option( max security), no slow down.
Did a usual system sacn and another deep scan. It,s fast.
Don,t know whether they have got any improvement in spyware/ adware detection than before? Also anybody tried it against rootkits? <-QUOTE}I think Marcos has ...
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=870043&postcount=86
Cheers :)
izi
November 1st, 2006, 01:27 AM
Hello!
Nod32 2.7 is slower at startup than 2.5.
aigle
November 1st, 2006, 01:51 AM
Also I don,t like the splash screen, no way to turn it off?
It stays long there than any other splash screens.
pykko
November 1st, 2006, 02:14 AM
aigle, go to NOD32 System tools-> Setup-> General and check the: "Don't show NOD32 splash screen at startup" ;)
aigle
November 1st, 2006, 02:22 AM
Thnaks pykko. I opened that menue before but never thought of clicking setup button.
It,s Ok now.
Marcos
November 1st, 2006, 06:33 AM
Those having a problem with the on-demand scanner closing automatically, please replace nod32.exe with the one downloadable from http://eset.zftp.com/support/nod32.exe and report to beta27[@]eset.sk whether it resolves the issue.
Hermescomputers
November 1st, 2006, 07:05 AM
My install went without a glitch. It "Upgraded" from my previous version with only a few simple steps. The only concern I have is that I downloaded the X64 version and it doesn't run as such. Both the UI and the Core run in 32 bit. Processing load during scan averages about 45 % (on my system mind you :) ).
Marcos
November 1st, 2006, 08:49 AM
64-bit are AMON and IMON.
rdsu
November 1st, 2006, 08:59 AM
The Anti-Stealth detected the rootkits, but I can only delete them with NOD32 in Safe Mode.
aigle
November 1st, 2006, 09:11 AM
Which rootkits u tried?
rdsu
November 1st, 2006, 09:15 AM
{QUOTE-> Which rootkits u tried? <-QUOTE}
Hacker Defender 1.0.0 revisited
Unfortunately I haven't the opportunity to test against a real threat, like that I had one week ago on a friend computer...
iNsuRRecTioN
November 1st, 2006, 01:41 PM
{QUOTE-> Also I don,t like the splash screen, no way to turn it off?
It stays long there than any other splash screens. <-QUOTE}
Hey,
yes, that's indeed bad. That's exactly what I already complained some time ago, but they don't integrate/implement an setting/option, to set the time how long the splash screen should appearing.. :shifty:
I don't want to deactive/disable to splash screen completely, only a more short time, not that long.. :-\
best regards,
iNsuRRecTiON
NOD32 user
November 1st, 2006, 02:27 PM
{QUOTE-> Hey,
yes, that's indeed bad. That's exactly what I already complained some time ago, but they don't integrate/implement an setting/option, to set the time how long the splash screen should appearing.. :shifty:
I don't want to deactive/disable to splash screen completely, only a more short time, not that long.. :-\
best regards,
iNsuRRecTiON <-QUOTE}It only stays until the Control Center is able to establish communication with the Kernal service.
Cheers :)
Marcos
November 1st, 2006, 02:36 PM
{QUOTE-> It only stays until the Control Center is able to establish communication with the Kernal service.
Cheers :) <-QUOTE}
That's true, you cannot speed up loading of the kernel service, especially if it is waiting for other system processes to start.
djmorgan
November 1st, 2006, 05:53 PM
{QUOTE-> Also I don,t like the splash screen, no way to turn it off?
It stays long there than any other splash screens. <-QUOTE}
Nodsystem32 setup > setup > activate do not show splash screen !!!8)
aigle
November 1st, 2006, 06:04 PM
ya, thanks
Carver
November 1st, 2006, 09:59 PM
I just downloaded and installed NOD32 2.7 beta, the instillation went smooth. I would have installed NOD32 2.7 beta sooner but I was busy. I was having problems with Outpost Pro 4.0 http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=868666&postcount=9 The problem was resolved http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=871931&postcount=21.
Littlemutt
November 5th, 2006, 05:39 AM
Exclusions - how to set up...?
I thought I could reduce the number of (4)'s cannot open file by adding the ones that come up over and over during scan by adding them to the exclusions of AMON setup page.
Seems after setting up several items - they are still flagged as (4)
Quick example to see if I'm on the right track:
C:\HIBERFIL.SYS I have it set as 'file' and 'Permanent'
D:\LAVASOFT\ set as Perm and folder (this is my download only disk) for saving files etc.
So.. what is it I don't understand on setting up these exclusions?
Thanks
WinXP SP2 2.7 Beta trial version
covaro
November 5th, 2006, 10:57 AM
{QUOTE-> Exclusions - how to set up...?
I thought I could reduce the number of (4)'s cannot open file by adding the ones that come up over and over during scan by adding them to the exclusions of AMON setup page.
Seems after setting up several items - they are still flagged as (4)
Quick example to see if I'm on the right track:
C:\HIBERFIL.SYS I have it set as 'file' and 'Permanent'
D:\LAVASOFT\ set as Perm and folder (this is my download only disk) for saving files etc.
So.. what is it I don't understand on setting up these exclusions?
Thanks
WinXP SP2 2.7 Beta trial version <-QUOTE}
AMON exclusions do not apply to the On-Demand Scanner.
-Cov
kjempen
November 6th, 2006, 09:23 PM
I don't know if this "problem" also applies to the official/full non-beta version of NOD32 also, but I noticed it with this beta version. It isn't a big problem, but still, a little bit annoying.
Description of how the problem appears:
Let's say I go to a folder where there's a lot of malware samples I want to scan. I don't want to scan the whole folder. For this example, let's say there's 107 samples I want to scan. I mark the 107 files that I want to scan* (see note), I right-click and select "NOD32 Antivirus System" from the context menu that appears. When NOD32 finishes, I notice that it hasn't scanned all the files I marked (only 105 scanned files reported). I also notice that when this happens, and I choose to quit from the On-Demand scan window, it says the "Context menu Profile" has been modified and asks me if I want to save the changes, even though I didn't do any changes. All I did was a right-click scan, then pressed the Quit button after it finished. But if I split this up into about half, choose the 53 first samples of the same 107 files and right-click and scan - this scan goes fine (53 files reported scanned by NOD32). Then select the 54 last samples of the same 107 files and right-click and scan - this scan also goes fine (54 files reported scanned by NOD32). ???
This doesn't always happen, and I've only noticed the problem when I've marked more than hundred files for scanning. Sometimes it scans 100+ samples fine in the context menu scan, and sometimes it doesn't. Can it be that in a context menu scan there's only a certain amount of files of a special type that NOD32 can handle (something to do with runtime packed files or .zip archives)?
(Note:
* - some of the samples are archived together in .zip archives, for example: "Trojan-PSW.Win32.Barok.10(3).zip" contains 3 unique samples all labelled as "Trojan-PSW.Win32.Barok.10" by KAV. In my example there was 107 samples all in all, as detected by Kaspersky.)
agoretsky
November 8th, 2006, 09:32 PM
Hello,
NOD32 v2.7 Release Candidate 1 (v2.70.12) has been released. For more information and download instructions, see this (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=153735) message thread in the NOD32 Beta Forum.
Regards,
Aryeh Goretsky
pykko
November 9th, 2006, 06:18 AM
thanks agoretsky.. I"m going to download it. ;D
Big Apple
November 9th, 2006, 06:58 AM
Clean install and up and running! No problems!
Mover
November 9th, 2006, 06:23 PM
{QUOTE-> With Anti-Stealth disabled, these nasties are invisible to Windows, NOD32 and other AV programs :) <-QUOTE}
I'm assuming AMON picks these up as well or are they only visable with the On Demand scanner ?
KDNeese
November 11th, 2006, 04:37 PM
One question I can't find the answer to either in the forums or at ESET website: Do I need to uninstall version 2.5 (Licensed) before installing 2.7 RC, or does the installation simply act as an upgrade to 2.5? I didn't install the 2.7 beta version, and don't want to do a complete uninstall if I don't need to. Thanks for any info on this.
ASpace
November 11th, 2006, 04:49 PM
{QUOTE-> One question I can't find the answer to either in the forums or at ESET website: Do I need to uninstall version 2.5 (Licensed) before installing 2.7 RC, or does the installation simply act as an upgrade to 2.5? I didn't install the 2.7 beta version, and don't want to do a complete uninstall if I don't need to. Thanks for any info on this. <-QUOTE}
In the beta forum when Aryeh announces the RC , it is written to uninstall previous beta , however I am not sure if this needs to be done for the paid .
A question was asked what might happen if one installs the RC over previous version and the answer was that this will lead to an unsupported part , which means you can install it over your existing but if some problems occur , you will be advised to do a fresh install :)
I would recommend you what I did , I did a fresh install . I uninstalled the paid 2.5 version , restarted , removed ESET folder in C:\Program files and then installed NOD32 2.7 :thumb:
KDNeese
November 11th, 2006, 05:10 PM
I figured that would be the best way to proceed, but was hoping there would be a slim chance I didn't have to go that route. Thanks.
KDNeese
November 11th, 2006, 05:27 PM
Actually, I discovered that installing 2.7 RC over the top of 2.5 is handled as an upgrade. At the last minute I decided not to go the uninstall and reinstall route. Installed over the top - setup program called it an upgrade, kept all my settings, user name and password, etc. Didn't have to reconfigure any settings or anything else. Was very seamless (and painless).
aigle
November 11th, 2006, 05:30 PM
How long the trial versions will work?
ASpace
November 11th, 2006, 05:44 PM
{QUOTE-> Actually, I discovered that installing 2.7 RC over the top of 2.5 is handled as an upgrade. At the last minute I decided not to go the uninstall and reinstall route. Installed over the top - setup program called it an upgrade, kept all my settings, user name and password, etc. Didn't have to reconfigure any settings or anything else. Was very seamless (and painless). <-QUOTE}
Excellent . Thanks for letting me/us know :thumb:
ASpace
November 11th, 2006, 05:45 PM
{QUOTE-> How long the trial versions will work? <-QUOTE}
Should be 30 days :wacko:
Dazza
November 11th, 2006, 06:57 PM
I installed 2.7 RC straight over my 2.5 paid version with no problem. All my settings,username and password were carried over.
Scans are noticeably quicker.
Keep up the good work eset. :thumb:
KDNeese
November 12th, 2006, 02:28 AM
{QUOTE-> I tried to install on top of a non-english version, did not work :-\
I noticed 1 screen (the AMON part) in the setup process was in the same language as my Windows is (Dutch).???
Made some pictures during install, u can find them here (http://members.home.nl/ctrlaltdelete/NOD32beta/). <-QUOTE}
I can't remember if I read something on the ESET website or if there was a warning message in the setup program, but it did say that both versions had to be in English in order to install directly over the other program - otherwise, you had to first uninstall 2.5 and then install the new version. So I would imagine your only option would be to uninstall NOD32 and then install the new version from scratch. Afterward, you'll have to go in and reconfigure your setup to your liking, but I think that's your only alternative at this point. Not really a big deal, just a little time consuming as well as a little frustrating, I'm sure.
OK - I hadn't looked at your pictures before making my reply. Looks like you already uninstalled the old version and were successful installing the new. That's good news.
Marcos
November 12th, 2006, 05:59 AM
If you install a different language version, you must delete the program files/eset/install folder before you begin installation.
Timo Schmidt
November 13th, 2006, 04:22 AM
Installed the RC1 on 11. Nov 06.
Is it possible that the last Update for NOD 2.7 was on 11. Nov 06?
Normally ESET updates their signatures at least twice in a day. Or does the RC1 not include Sig-Updates.
Greetings
Timo
Tommy
November 13th, 2006, 06:58 AM
Douple posting? I only answer one time ;)
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=154220
agoretsky
November 17th, 2006, 10:06 PM
Hello,
The production version of NOD32 has been released. For more information, please see this (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=154810) thread.
As this thread is about the beta and release candidate builds of NOD32 Version 2.7, I am now going to un-stick and close it. If you have a question about the production releae of NOD32 Version 2.7, please start a new message thread.
Regards,
Aryeh Goretsky
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