Avira Premium Security Suite is gold

[QBgreen]

Many here have anticipated this...so go get it! http://www.avira.com/en/products/avira_premium_security_suite.html

[Big Apple]

{QUOTE-> Many here have anticipated this...so go get it! http://www.avira.com/en/products/avira_premium_security_suite.html <-QUOTE}

It just amazes me, that it is for sale and nothing has been posted about this final at the forum......I don't think it's a very friendly way of not informing so many people being busy with this beta product. My pants are way down to my knees about merchandising this the way they do it now! It could just be me, but I sure don't like it. And how come it's final already? All bugs fixed?

[QBgreen]

{QUOTE-> It just amazes me, that it is for sale and nothing has been posted about this final at the forum......I don't think it's a very friendly way of not informing so many people being busy with this beta product. My pants are way down to my knees about merchandising this the way they do it now! It could just be me, but I sure don't like it. And how come it's final already? All bugs fixed? <-QUOTE}

They did kind of slide that one under the door. I tested the beta, and received absolutely no notification at all that this had gone gold. If I hadn't perused Avira's site, it would have remained unknown to me.

[kdm31091]

Did Avira change their minds - can Premium users use their lisence for this?

[farmerlee]

I don't see how they justify the extra 19.95 euros for the firewall, which imo is quite basic. Antivir premium combined with comodo or ZA would be a much better choice.

[farmerlee]

{QUOTE-> Did Avira change their minds - can Premium users use their lisence for this? <-QUOTE}
From the looks of it, i don't think so.

[Big Apple]

{QUOTE-> Did Avira change their minds - can Premium users use their lisence for this? <-QUOTE}

That's what I mean, no sign of anything about this!!!

[kdm31091]

I really think it should be free for currently premium people, especially those who bought their lisence in the LAST MONTH.

[C.S.J]

{QUOTE-> I really think it should be free for currently premium people, especially those who bought their lisence in the LAST MONTH. <-QUOTE}

totally agree, even though i personally have never liked avira software, some people do and this is fine, but for people who have premium licences should get a FREE upgrade to the suite, because in the end ... isnt it just the basic firewall thats added? surely not worth the $20 add on.

i would also recommend they keep their premium licence and get a free firewall.

[trjam]

I agree. Good, really good people, but a suite that was rushed missing a lot of features already included in suites for a price that will never sell. A year from now, it may be the one we all want though. But rushing it out without these features was wrong. Current customers get screwed while 5 bucks, from each sell. is donated to a very good charity. It just doesnt add up. Good people though who will eventually get it right.

[lodore]

{QUOTE-> I agree. Good, really good people, but a suite that was rushed nissing a lot of features already included in suites for a price that will never sell. A year from now, it may be the one we all want though. But rushing it, with the ability their AV has will only cheapen a potential product that just doesnt cut it. Good people though who will eventually get it right. <-QUOTE}


it had to much potential but then they rushed it.

lets hope eset dont rush 2.7 and 3.0=}

[kdm31091]

They definetly rushed it. One new feature for $20? Uh no.

[Graystoke]

I beta tested the suite. I had problems with Mailguard in the beta and the RC. I had to disable Mailguard to send and receive e-mail. Hopefully they fixed that. The suite itself is ok I guess if they fixed everything. That is a little expensive for just an antivirus and firewall. I also think that premium license owners should have gotten some kind of notification about the suit going gold, and an offer of a discount if they wanted to upgrade.

The reason I won't be using the suite or any AntiVir product is this. I am, or I guess you can say was, a AntiVir Premium license owner. I lost my license key. I admit it is totally my fault. I should have made copy. I have sent Avira three e-mails asking them to please send me a copy of my license key. I have not received one reply. At this point I think I would be happy to get a reply saying, "you lost your license, tough ****, buy a new one". Anything to let me know there is somebody working there.

[FRug]

Graystoke: AFAIK if you didn't also forget your mail adress and password you can simply re-request the license email via the online shop.

As far as i saw the suite went gold around 6 or 7 pm CET yesterday evening, and an announcement on the webpage was made. Maybe betatesters will receive a mail today, I don't know. Personally it's enough for me to have the news on their web frontpage since this is where an active betatester is heading anyway...

[The Hammer]

Screenshots wouldbe nice to see. I could not find any.

[Blackcat]

{QUOTE-> Did Avira change their minds - can Premium users use their lisence for this? <-QUOTE}
No. You need to pay the additional $20 to upgrade. A new key-file is needed for the Suite.

[Phoinix]

{QUOTE-> Screenshots wouldbe nice to see. I could not find any. <-QUOTE}

For you. ;)

http://s3.bilder-hosting.de/tbnl/UWDMT.jpg (http://www.bilder-hosting.de/show/UWDMT.html)

http://s3.bilder-hosting.de/tbnl/UWDQL.jpg (http://www.bilder-hosting.de/show/UWDQL.html)

http://s3.bilder-hosting.de/tbnl/UWDTP.jpg (http://www.bilder-hosting.de/show/UWDTP.html)

[FRug]

I guess this will make you beta testers a bit happier, no?

{QUOTE->
Hello everybody,

Avira released yesterday evening the Premium Security Suite, previously known as AntiVir Premium with integrated Firewall.
The new product can be downloaded and bought from this page: http://www.avira.com/en/products/avira_ … suite.html

Many of you supported us from the very first version, helped us with your feedback, kicked us when we made mistakes and praised us when everything worked great.

We thank you for that !

To prove our appreciation for your efforts and dedication to help us making a good product, Avira will give away 6 months and 1 year licenses for the new product.

The beta testers who actively supported us and were with us from the beginning will be contacted via email by our Sales & Marketing department around 30 October 2006
and will receive the licenses.

It was a hard decision to chose which betatesters get a 1 year license and which get a 6 months license. It was based on activity in Forum, bugs reported, offline feedback,
special tests made with the product and others.


We hope that this will not stop you to stay with us and test the other beta software that we have.


Sincerely,
Your Avira Team
<-QUOTE}

[smustaca]

Hi,

FRug, thanks for quoting me ;)

[DonKid]

{QUOTE-> It was a hard decision to chose which betatesters get a 1 year license and which get a 6 months license. It was based on activity in Forum, bugs reported, offline feedback,
special tests made with the product and others. <-QUOTE}

I'm not an Avira beta tester, and I'll never be one for sure.
But IMO, beta testers are helping anyway.
They should be treated in the same way.

Just my 2 cents.

[Tommy]

So how is the AVIRA FF in your opinions?

[bs259]

If i wanted to buy the Avira Suite how would i go about doing it I dont see a link to pay with US dollars or will the system automatically exchange dollar to euro's?

[trjam]

in this thread, send smustaca a PM and should be able to get that done for you.

[Firecat]

39.95 Euros is a decent enough price but since AVIRA does not offer renewal discounts, its going to be costly in the long run...

[Blackcat]

{QUOTE-> 39.95 Euros is a decent enough price but since AVIRA does not offer renewal discounts, its going to be costly in the long run... <-QUOTE}
Not for the Premium standalone AV but let's hope there is a discount for the Suite after the first year of use :-\

[muf]

{QUOTE-> I'm not an Avira beta tester, and I'll never be one for sure.
But IMO, beta testers are helping anyway.
They should be treated in the same way.

Just my 2 cents. <-QUOTE}


I have to agree with this. I've never used it, nor will I with this attitude from the developer. A Beta tester is a beta tester. If someone reports 10 minor bugs but someone else reports 1 major bug does that mean the person with reporting 10 gets a 1 year licence and the other person 6 months? And what criteria do you qualify? 50 posts or more gets you 1 year, but any less gets you only 6 months, and less than 5 and it doesn't count.

Rather tacky.

muf

[The Hammer]

Thank you for the screenshots Phoinix. 8)

[Phoinix]

{QUOTE-> Thank you for the screenshots Phoinix. 8) <-QUOTE}

No Problem.... ;)

[Graystoke]

{QUOTE-> Graystoke: AFAIK if you didn't also forget your mail adress and password you can simply re-request the license email via the online shop.
<-QUOTE}

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by saying, "If you didn't also forget your mail address and password", but if it is some sort of slam, I don't appreciate it. I do know my e-mail address and the password I used. I just happened to forget to back up my license key. I'm sure I'm not the only one to ever forget to back up something.


Thanks for the information anyway.

[trjam]

let it go graystoke, go get Nod and we will continue on.:)

[FRug]

Graystoke: Huh, no.... I was tryin to help... You can (or at least could in the past) re-request your key via their online shop by entering your mail and acccount password.

[Graystoke]

{QUOTE-> Graystoke: Huh, no.... I was tryin to help... You can (or at least could in the past) re-request your key via their online shop by entering your mail and acccount password. <-QUOTE}



Sorry FRug, I guess I read something into it I shouldn't have. I just went through formatting my hard drive, and trying to get everything back to where it was, so I guess my brain is a little weary. Sorry for jumbing to the wrong conclussion. Thanks again for the info about the license key. I'll give it a try.

[FRug]

Graystoke: note that there seems to be a different shop for pro customers, best use this link https://shop.antivir-pe.de/en/shop/sale/online_shop/index.html and login there. You can re-request you license by clicking on "My Licenses". Tried it out for you, and it worked as expected.

[Graystoke]

{QUOTE-> Graystoke: note that there seems to be a different shop for pro customers, best use this link https://shop.antivir-pe.de/en/shop/sale/online_shop/index.html and login there. You can re-request you license by clicking on "My Licenses". Tried it out for you, and it worked as expected. <-QUOTE}


FRug...Yep, gave it a try last night. I got my license. :) I havn't installed anything yet. Trying to decided on AntiVir Premium + a firewall, or AntiVir Suite. Decisions, Decisions. :)

[farmerlee]

{QUOTE-> FRug...Yep, gave it a try last night. I got my license. :) I havn't installed anything yet. Trying to decided on AntiVir Premium + a firewall, or AntiVir Suite. Decisions, Decisions. :) <-QUOTE}
Antivir premium + comodo or similar is a far better choice than the suite imo. The suite is great but the pricing is bad from my point of view.

[Graystoke]

{QUOTE-> Antivir premium + comodo or similar is a far better choice than the suite imo. The suite is great but the pricing is bad from my point of view. <-QUOTE}


I'm leaning in the AntiVir + firewall direction also. I liked the suite, but I had troubles with MailGuard in the suite that I didn't have in AntiVir Premium. With the suite, I had to disable MailGuard in order to receive and send e-mail. I guess I could install it and find out if that has been fixed. :)

[farmerlee]

{QUOTE-> I'm leaning in the AntiVir + firewall direction also. I liked the suite, but I had troubles with MailGuard in the suite that I didn't have in AntiVir Premium. With the suite, I had to disable MailGuard in order to receive and send e-mail. I guess I could install it and find out if that has been fixed. :) <-QUOTE}
Yeah use a free firewall and save yourself 20 euros :)

[Big Apple]

Just received a one year license for the new Suite as a reward for being a beta tester. Nice present!

[lodore]

{QUOTE-> Just received a one year license for the new Suite as a reward for being a beta tester. Nice present! <-QUOTE}


same here!
it is a nice gift!
of course now ive got license's for nod32 and antivir now i will install one then switch and see what i prefer.

[bs259]

that doesnt seem right to me, I only got a 6 month license, maybe i didnt post enough there or i didnt test long enough.

[kdm31091]

I didn't get ANY lisence.

[Big Apple]

{QUOTE-> that doesnt seem right to me, I only got a 6 month license, maybe i didnt post enough there or i didnt test long enough. <-QUOTE}

You said it.....but still nice, a 6 month license for nothing!

[trjam]

what you got should really be between you and them out of respect. I have reinstalled the suite and it really is basic, not bloated, but really gives you the protection you want. Rootkit detection will be soon along with a hosts of other features over the next 12 months. This is a suite in its infancy, and we shouldnt forget that. It is already AHEAD of others who have had years to become ineffective and fat.

[Big Apple]

{QUOTE-> what you got should really be between you and them out of respect. I have reinstalled the suite and it really is basic, not bloated, but really gives you the protection you want. Rootkit detection will be soon along with a hosts of other features over the next 12 months. This is a suite in its infancy, and we shouldnt forget that. It is already AHEAD of others who have had years to become ineffective and fat. <-QUOTE}

I have read some less respectful posts of you at the Avira Beta forum regarding this Suite, so......

[trjam]

Oh I totally agree. There were quite a few of us that were very vocal. You have to admit, at least I do, it was one of the most enjoyable betas I have ever done just from the fact of people speaking their true mind. So yes, you are right. I got a year one, ok. Either way, some good folks that work their, and some good folks that tested.:)

[lodore]

im gonna try nod32 and antivir suite on my main pc since i got license for both.

I prefer the reporting on antivir.
the interface is so simple and tabs across the top is good.
I like the umbrella icon.

for nod32 im really waiting for 3.0 no rush.

theres nothing wrong with nod32 2.5 thou.

its hard to choose which one to use for now IMO.
i was gonna use nod32 because i have a license for it but now i have a license for both and like both.

[Big Apple]

{QUOTE-> im gonna try nod32 and antivir suite on my main pc since i got license for both.

I prefer the reporting on antivir.
the interface is so simple and tabs across the top is good.
I like the umbrella icon.

for nod32 im really waiting for 3.0 no rush.

theres nothing wrong with nod32 2.5 thou.

its hard to choose which one to use for now IMO.
i was gonna use nod32 because i have a license for it but now i have a license for both and like both. <-QUOTE}

I'll stick with No32 for the time being, as I had a lot of trouble with the Mailguard of Avira in both the Personal Premium and the Beta Suite and never saw any solution for that. But I'll try Avira again shortly!
I also think that Avira showed a great lot of FP's with the heuristics on 'high', but it's nice to be able to adjust that.

[trjam]

I know lodore, Christmas comes early sometimes.::) Avira is a good company. You and I though have hearts in different places after that. I still for the life of me cant get use to liking Nod. I dont think I ever will. I on the other hand still am drawn to Kaspersky.

[trjam]

You are right about those false positives. I found the medium setting activated works well. It really does a good job, at least it finds stuff. Nod never did, sometimes I thought it was asleep.:P

[Big Apple]

{QUOTE-> You are right about those false positives. I found the medium setting activated works well. It really does a good job, at least it finds stuff. Nod never did, sometimes I thought it was asleep.:P <-QUOTE}

Nod has really progressed and finds a great deal now.......you really should try again, you'll be surprised.

[trjam]

Thanks anyway, but I have a fear of trojans, and that is where Kas has the edge. Both are the top 2, along with this suite and NIS 2007. I am now starting to really investigate and learn about Frisk. Something tells me they are getting ready to make some big improvements.

[farmerlee]

{QUOTE-> im gonna try nod32 and antivir suite on my main pc since i got license for both.

I prefer the reporting on antivir.
the interface is so simple and tabs across the top is good.
I like the umbrella icon.

for nod32 im really waiting for 3.0 no rush.

theres nothing wrong with nod32 2.5 thou.

its hard to choose which one to use for now IMO.
i was gonna use nod32 because i have a license for it but now i have a license for both and like both. <-QUOTE}
Well imo for the average user Antivir is the better choice as it has a wider range of protection with the spyware/adware detection. Used in combination with comodo or similar its simple but good security setup.

[huntnyc]

After installing the release version of the suite, it is running using about 45 Mb of ram on my laptop. I think I saw all the processes under Advanced tak Manager program. This seems very good to me.

Gary

[bs259]

does anybody have a problem with the umbrella icon not showing up in the taskbar, I know the software is running but I would feel more comfortable if the umbrella was there.

[aigle]

{QUOTE-> Well imo for the average user Antivir is the better choice as it has a wider range of protection with the spyware/adware detection. Used in combination with comodo or similar its simple but good security setup. <-QUOTE}
I agree.

Edit: I misunderstood.
So u mean Antivir gives more protection against spyware/ adware?

[Graystoke]

I received my free license today also. Very nice of AntiVir to do that for the beta testers. I installed it and so far I'm very happy with it. I always liked the suite, but had problems with MailGuard. Looks like that problem has been fixed. Thank you AntiVir for the license. :)

[trjam]

Graystoke, glad to see everything worked out for you.

[huntnyc]

No problem with umbrella icon here. But, I have posted an interface problem that has remained in the Avira forums. I suggest that we bring those problems there. They seem quite responsive and willing to listen. the suite is a wonderful piece of software that truly has captured my attention.

Gary

[huntnyc]

Just to let you know, I had to check both boxes under Firewall settings to get completely stealth under ShieldUp. I don't know if there is any other type of configuration that is needed here. How is your Firewall part running and what tweaks have you made if any? Thanks.

Gary

[huntnyc]

Scan time on Complete system Scan just 30:19 on my laptop with 2 100GB 5,400 SATA drives and 1 100GB 5400 drive in external USB 2.0 enclosure. Truly very fast.

Gary

[Graystoke]

{QUOTE-> Graystoke, glad to see everything worked out for you. <-QUOTE}


Yeah, me too. :) Everything is running smoothly. MailGuard is working like it's supposed to. I've set the firewall security level to high, and the ShieldsUp test shows everything stealth. My computer loads very quickly at initial startup. Completed first scan last night in 42 minutes, with no false positives. But then, I've never come across any false positives with AntiVir. All is well in my little world again. ;) ;D

[lodore]

{QUOTE-> Scan time on Complete system Scan just 30:19 on my laptop with 2 100GB 5,400 SATA drives and 1 100GB 5400 drive in external USB 2.0 enclosure. Truly very fast.

Gary <-QUOTE}

wow thats fast!

ive only got 57gb one drive to scan but if i use my antivir suite license and installed it i could scan my 100gb external as well to be sure.

[huntnyc]

Did full system scan today with heuristics set to high and no FP's at all. So far am really liking how this suite is performing.

Gary