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fred128
October 25th, 2006, 03:14 PM
For those of you who use Zonealarm, please be aware that Norton 2007 Antivirus is not compatible with it. During the installation of the program, a notification comes up that Zonealarm has to be uninstalled first.
This means that you would have to either uninstall Zonealarm or not use the Symantec 2007 version. If you're contemplating purchasing Norton 2007, it might change your mind.

Chubb
October 25th, 2006, 04:37 PM
Thanks for the update. ;) :thumb: :thumb:

But I won't use Norton AntiVirus anymore. ;D

There are better choices out there.

Cloudcroft
October 25th, 2006, 05:46 PM
When I installed NIS 2007, I got a message saying it was incompatible with Spybot and Windows Defender (which I previously disabled), and that I should uninstall them before continuing. I went ahead and installed NIS 2007 without uninstalling them, and so far have had no problems. (Disclaimer: I'm not implying that NAV 2007 isn't incompatible with Zonealarm)

C.S.J
October 25th, 2006, 05:49 PM
NIS 2007 ?

i dont think you need spybot and windows defender with that installed

Cloudcroft
October 25th, 2006, 05:54 PM
Spybot's been on my computer for years, and I tried Windows Defender just to see how good it was. I disabled it months ago, and probably should go ahead and uninstall it. Like a lot of people on this forum, I like to check out new programs. I have quite a few installed, but only use most of them for on demand scanning. ;D

iNsuRRecTioN
October 26th, 2006, 09:24 PM
Hey,

yes, for more about that shit, bad joke, bad practise and why should don't use Norton products, see here: http://www.spybot.info/en/news/2006-09-29.html

best regards,

iNsuRRecTiON

C.S.J
October 26th, 2006, 09:38 PM
{QUOTE-> Hey,

yes, for more about that shit, bad joke, bad practise and why should don't use Norton products, see here: http://www.spybot.info/en/news/2006-09-29.html

best regards,

iNsuRRecTiON <-QUOTE}

this article is a joke,

norton 2007 is amazing and spybot is poor, erm ...

lodore
October 27th, 2006, 05:28 AM
{QUOTE-> this article is a joke,

norton 2007 is amazing and spybot is poor, erm ... <-QUOTE}


come on Symantec is a big faceless corporation that doesn't listen to the little guy but should!

javagreen
October 27th, 2006, 06:24 AM
{QUOTE-> norton 2007 is amazing <-QUOTE}

You've lost all your credibility when you said that.

[suave]
October 27th, 2006, 06:36 AM
{QUOTE-> For those of you who use Zonealarm, please be aware that Norton 2007 Antivirus is not compatible with it. <-QUOTE}

That doesn't surprise me... considering the fact that Norton isn't compatible with Windows itself ;D ;D

lodore
October 27th, 2006, 07:08 AM
{QUOTE-> ']That doesn't surprise me... considering the fact that Norton isn't compatible with Windows itself ;D ;D <-QUOTE}


LMAO.

C.S.J
October 27th, 2006, 07:09 AM
{QUOTE-> You've lost all your credibility when you said that. <-QUOTE}

well norton 2007 is amazing, isnt like the other versions and i used to be a norton hater due to their resource hogged and buggy protection.

iNsuRRecTioN
October 28th, 2006, 01:40 PM
Hey,

maybe, but this article have nothing to do with being a resource hog..

You should read articles carefully, before being lame and troll.

best regards,

iNsuRRecTiON

metallicakid15
October 28th, 2006, 01:46 PM
wasent mcafee also not compatible with zonealarm? sounds like zonealarm is pushing people to buy thier internet security suite or antivirus(vet ca engine).

C.S.J
October 28th, 2006, 01:46 PM
i did read the article and found myself quite bored :shifty:

Graystoke
October 28th, 2006, 03:20 PM
I really wanted to give NIS or NAV 2007 a try. I first tried the trial version of NIS 2007. It went through the install process with no problems. After running Live Update I rebooted, and that is were the problem started. It took what seemed forever for everything to load. It was very, very slow. It caused the whole startup process to slow down. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling a couple of times with the results the same. I then gave NAV 2007 a try. Same problem. I know my computer has enough power to handle either software. No other AV or suite affects my computer the way NIS/NAV 2007 does. I could never figure out the problem.

marcromero
October 29th, 2006, 11:18 AM
Yesterday I purchased and installed NAV 2007, I wanted to see for myself, how Norton antivirus had changed since I last used NAV 2003. I must say, it has changed for the better. I installed it on my laptop with 512 RAM memory, it runs really well, with remarkably low resource usage and no noticable drag on my system. Installation was a bit frustrating, first install failed, second install would not update internet intrusion protection (worm protection), third install attempt completed successfully, everything updated properly and is working fine. I really like the logging features, they provide alot of useful information and detail. Now for the test drive, as I learn it's capabilities and new features.

bigc73542
October 29th, 2006, 11:20 AM
Yep, Norton is definatly back in the game:thumb:

rdsu
October 29th, 2006, 05:55 PM
{QUOTE-> here are better choices out there. <-QUOTE}
Much better... ;)

RiverLights
November 27th, 2006, 03:31 PM
{QUOTE-> For those of you who use Zonealarm, please be aware that Norton 2007 Antivirus is not compatible with it. During the installation of the program, a notification comes up that Zonealarm has to be uninstalled first.
This means that you would have to either uninstall Zonealarm or not use the Symantec 2007 version. If you're contemplating purchasing Norton 2007, it might change your mind. <-QUOTE}

Norton does ask you to uninstall other security programs and firewalls before installation (do did PC Cillin 2007). Then after the installation you reinstall em ( well you don't reinstall the firewalls of course). I have used Norton 2007 NIS with Spysweeper....used that method and had no problems. Don't recall if Kaspersky security suite 6 asked for an uninstall....actually I think I anticipated it and uninstalled ahead of time anyway. Then reinstalled there too. No conflicts, but both Kaspersky and Norton block Spysweeper scans from access to their programs. They both protect themselves against even just potential invasions very well.

Have read of so many problems with Norton 2007 installations, but I have had none myself. Lucky I guess. I really like it. Very unobtrusive solid protection.

C.S.J
November 27th, 2006, 03:33 PM
i have heard of no problems with the norton 2007 range, its very impressive software.

Longboard
November 27th, 2006, 08:53 PM
I also have NAV/NIS running with SBS&D with no problems so far

SBS&D is still one of my favourite tools, (especially now Spysweeper has gone to the dogs) lots of built in goodies, and, extra tools available from SaferNetWorking.
Virtually every malware removal site still recommends/supports SBS&D at some level.

I did uninstall SBS&D prior to Norton install, heh: TeaTimer would have gone beserk LOL :o

If you dont want plenty of pop-ups from TeaTimer, must remove all the SBS&D data files first.

Need to give careful consideration to disabling/uninstalling every poller/reg monitor, HIPS, AT guard, FW prior to any BIG install particularly if like Symantec they install rootkits LOL.
Probably prevx and OA and CyberHawk ( in my experience ) handled it best without being uninstalled.

Useful having several FDISR snapshots with different configs to play in for installation and compatability testing. :)

DID not as yet test against Green Border or Defence Wall.

Very happy to continue supporting PK/Team Spybot and his terrific software and services.

Regards

C.S.J
November 28th, 2006, 03:04 PM
{QUOTE-> I also have NAV/NIS running with SBS&D with no problems so far

SBS&D is still one of my favourite tools, (especially now Spysweeper has gone to the dogs) lots of built in goodies, and, extra tools available from SaferNetWorking.
Virtually every malware removal site still recommends/supports SBS&D at some level.

I did uninstall SBS&D prior to Norton install, heh: TeaTimer would have gone beserk LOL :o

If you dont want plenty of pop-ups from TeaTimer, must remove all the SBS&D data files first.

Need to give careful consideration to disabling/uninstalling every poller/reg monitor, HIPS, AT guard, FW prior to any BIG install particularly if like Symantec they install rootkits LOL.
Probably prevx and OA and CyberHawk ( in my experience ) handled it best without being uninstalled.

Useful having several FDISR snapshots with different configs to play in for installation and compatability testing. :)

DID not as yet test against Green Border or Defence Wall.

Very happy to continue supporting PK/Team Spybot and his terrific software and services.

Regards <-QUOTE}

i wouldnt be too sure about SBS&D, its detection is poor.

huangzhengliang
December 24th, 2006, 09:48 AM
I just got the NIS 2007 trial. Installation took a while and so did LiveUpdate, this *something* list.
Although I like the resources part, scanning my computer took around 20 mins. This was approx the same scan speed as when I had NIS 2005. But I believe using programs while scanning is much quicker with NIS 2007 than NIS 2005. Anyway, as long as it doesn't slow down my computer playing games, it's all good.

eBBox
December 24th, 2006, 11:13 AM
{QUOTE-> I just got the NIS 2007 trial. Installation took a while and so did LiveUpdate, this *something* list.
Although I like the resources part, scanning my computer took around 20 mins. This was approx the same scan speed as when I had NIS 2005. But I believe using programs while scanning is much quicker with NIS 2007 than NIS 2005. Anyway, as long as it doesn't slow down my computer playing games, it's all good. <-QUOTE}

Glad to hear :thumb: I've had the same expirence too with no slowdowns :)

Coolio10
December 24th, 2006, 09:26 PM
WEll im here to join the norton lovers!

My first experience with Norton is when i first got my computer because it came pre-installed but it was also the first thing i did because my computer was damm slow!!!!

Today i thought about installing it on my 300mb or around that cpu to see if it had improved. Same thing with me i had a terrible first install but the second one was a beauty. Everything has changed!!!! Im running the av and firewall and both are fast and nice. My ISP provided Norton products as their security suites....heres the deal http://promo.yahoo.com/rogers/yop_learnmore.html

At first when i saw this deal i was like OMG dumba** ISP but when i tried it i was amazed. All Norton needs now is to gain their rep back which will probably happen when they release Norton 360.

Everything is like automated aswell which is extremely easy for beginners.

Heres a pic of usage which you haters will say "Yeah Right"
Firefox is representing the usage of the previous Resource Hog Norton Products ;D

lodore
December 25th, 2006, 10:46 AM
i still wouldnt use norton products because you cant tweak the home user versions. the home versions are for people who dont know what there doing. im happy with kaspersky;D
i laughed for ages when my ICT tutor at college told me he used norton. he should have an av that he can tweak to his needs and not a product for the average home user.
lodore

C.S.J
December 25th, 2006, 10:50 AM
{QUOTE-> i still wouldnt use norton products because you cant tweak the home user versions. the home versions are for people who dont know what there doing. im happy with kaspersky;D
i laughed for ages when my ICT tutor at college told me he used norton. he should have an av that he can tweak to his needs and not a product for the average home user.
lodore <-QUOTE}
average home user?

just because you cant tweak the settings, doesnt make it average lodore.

the fact that the product is set to max when out of the box, is a good thing.

most people dont want to buy a product, install it then spend ages changing loads of settings, default should always be best.

lodore
December 25th, 2006, 10:51 AM
what im saying is its good that the default settings are max but i think it should be possible to change them if you wanted to and you simplely cant.
unless you can show me a screen shot of the 2007 Norton with lots of tweaking options like in nod32 or kav then i think i am right. nod32 default options are very protective but you can tweak them all you like same with kaspersky.

ill be back soon im gonna play on my new full size pinball table i got for xmas=D

have you ever tryed setting f-secure to max settings?
i mean scan all files and scan archives?
because once i thought i will set it to max settings so i put it to scan all files and rebooted then f-secure just used 100percent cpu and wouldn't stop intill i put it back to scan certain files option.
i guess its got to many engines and takes ages to scan all the files at startup.
lodore

C.S.J
December 25th, 2006, 11:40 AM
~removed full quote of post just above....Bubba~

if default is maximum security, why would you want to change them?

if you want the lower security, then maybe buy kaspersky or nod so you can tweak it to a lower setting.

eBBox
December 25th, 2006, 11:53 AM
{QUOTE-> if default is maximum security, why would you want to change them?

if you want the lower security, then maybe buy kaspersky or nod so you can tweak it to a lower setting. <-QUOTE}

LOL totally agree! I like the av myself and the fact that the settings almost are maxed when installed. That means less work for me, not that the program are for beginners or avarage users.

C.S.J
December 25th, 2006, 12:01 PM
~removed full quote of post just above....Bubba~

i just dont see why an av should be installed with low settings, doesnt make sense, then wasting time having to look for settings to make it high (especially with nod32), i understand people want to explore their program they have to bought a licence for, but its just not needed and is a waste of time.

bottom line is, its a security program, its a program that runs in the background, updates automatically and shouldnt even be touched really unless you want to do a full scan or it prompts for an action, i dont see the need to fiddle with settings all the time, unless you really are that bored, i tend to do more surfing on the net when bored, not play with my av program. ;D

yes lodore goes on about kaspersky alot, but he likes it as do i with dr.web, but i do understand he doesnt like people giving negative comments too much, especially when comparing f-secure with kaspersky. *hehe*

they are all good and you use something you feel comfortable with, but all the comments of 'this is bad, it should be this, use this.... etc' should all be stopped, unless you are a user of CA. ;D

eBBox
December 25th, 2006, 03:00 PM
{QUOTE-> ~removed full quote of post just above....Bubba~
comments of 'this is bad, it should be this, use this.... etc' should all be stopped, unless you are a user of CA. ;D <-QUOTE}

LOL ;D

lodore
December 25th, 2006, 06:58 PM
kaspersky has great protection on default settings but you can tweak it to how you like just like with nod32 and dr web.
dr web isn't full protection as default and needs a few options changed.
I would rather be given the option than the av choose what are the best settings for me.
does norton even have a tick box to enable and disable the detection of spyware riskware dialers?
or does it just detect it all which means the end user could get the av to get rid of a safe program because it could be used for the wrong purpose. which also means the company who set up the computer for the person will get lots or phone calls saying there favorite messenger app get deleted by there av.
so there is good and bad things to having max settings as default.
so norton 2007 must eiether detect the riskware on default settings and a user might delete them by mistake and call up a computer company to sort it out or worse it dont detect them so the user dont delete them by mistake got to be one of those. but which one?

lodore

C.S.J
December 25th, 2006, 07:21 PM
{QUOTE-> kaspersky has great protection on default settings but you can tweak it to how you like just like with nod32 and dr web.
dr web isn't full protection as default and needs a few options changed.
I would rather be given the option than the av choose what are the best settings for me.
does norton even have a tick box to enable and disable the detection of spyware riskware dialers?
or does it just detect it all which means the end user could get the av to get rid of a safe program because it could be used for the wrong purpose. which also means the company who set up the computer for the person will get lots or phone calls saying there favorite messenger app get deleted by there av.
so there is good and bad things to having max settings as default.

lodore <-QUOTE}
actually other than scan by format and scan all files, dr.web is set to the highest on default i think.

i like the fact norton is set to max after install, it makes it much easier to manage security, it truly is a 'set it and forget it' solution to antivirus, if people do not like this approach, then choose something else, but personally i think its a good thing that company as took this approach, its just all much easier.

anyway, gonna go struggle on MS flight sim X ;D

lodore
December 25th, 2006, 07:23 PM
so does it detect riskware as default and the user deletes programs they use by mistake or does it simplely put the user at risk by not detecting them?
have fun on your game
lodore

ink
December 25th, 2006, 08:57 PM
{QUOTE-> kaspersky has great protection on default settings but you can tweak it to how you like just like with nod32 and dr web.
dr web isn't full protection as default and needs a few options changed.
I would rather be given the option than the av choose what are the best settings for me.
does norton even have a tick box to enable and disable the detection of spyware riskware dialers?
or does it just detect it all which means the end user could get the av to get rid of a safe program because it could be used for the wrong purpose. which also means the company who set up the computer for the person will get lots or phone calls saying there favorite messenger app get deleted by there av.
so there is good and bad things to having max settings as default.
so norton 2007 must eiether detect the riskware on default settings and a user might delete them by mistake and call up a computer company to sort it out or worse it dont detect them so the user dont delete them by mistake got to be one of those. but which one?

lodore <-QUOTE}

I think you make comments on the product you didn't try. There is really the choice for you to detect the adware, spyware or dialers in nis 2007, and the default action to the low risks is to ignore.
As you metinoned in kaspersky and drweb, what you change is the file type to scan right? But most of the time the recomend settings is to scan all files, less people want to change to scan specific type, they don't know. Nis is going to scan all files and take automatic action. Can you point out some important settings that you care much but can't change in NIS?

lodore
December 26th, 2006, 10:18 AM
care to show me a screenshot of the options in nis2007?
loore

C.S.J
December 26th, 2006, 10:23 AM
{QUOTE-> care to show me a screenshot of the options in nis2007?
loore <-QUOTE}

there are tick boxes to select if you want it to look for dialers and all that.

but enough of this options waffle, if you want something with loads of options, go with nod32, but i think having a security solution that is set to max, is perfect for what the program is meant to do for the buyer.

its obvious you dont like norton, maybe because of the options (ie. nod style) are not there, or maybe you just dont like norton because of previous versions which maybe you didnt like, but having a lack of options is not a reason to diss a security solution, just as dissing nod32 because of all the options you have to choose before its 'up and running', people will prefer both, so just be happy there is an option for people if they dont want all the options to mess around with.

bigc73542
December 26th, 2006, 10:25 AM
I fully that there is no need to bad mouth any security app as there are quite a few of them and there should be one that will suit everyone. We are fortunate that there are that many choices.

lodore
December 26th, 2006, 10:33 AM
its nice to have good options set as default but also have the ability to tweak.
the main reason i dont like Norton is because symantec ruined norton when they brought out the 2003 version in 2003.
i still dont know why people like the Norton interface.
its just a marketing device and its yellow that is so unatracktive.
norton will always sell well for people who dont know about secuirty who get it reccomended in pc world.
im just stating that the interface is horrible colours and yellow could be hard to read for certain people.
also a random thing is has the firewall options changed?
in the older versions behind the normal interface was a firewall config menu with tons of advanced options which would throw its target audience.
and it was quite hard to unblock a program if you clickied the block button by mistake.
the main point is the horrible colouring of the interface and the old versions that make me never want to go back to them when there are alot better options else where.
you have got nod32,kaspersky,antivir,drweb etc even macafee i like the 2007 version of macfee but never liked the 2006 version.

the main point is you cant judge secuirity by shiny boxes in pcworld=D
lodore

G K Willington
December 26th, 2006, 03:12 PM
{QUOTE->
if default is maximum security, why would you want to change them? <-QUOTE}


One word: compatability. Some AV's/suite's/programs will have issues with other programs. Obviously this isn't a novell or new point. Sometimes, different configurations of hardware and software just don't work together.

In these situations, it's very handy to be able to turn down certain aspects of the AV/suite so that it plays well with others instead of disabling the system/suite leaving you holding the bag.

As with anything, options are nice to have.


Neil

mata7
December 27th, 2006, 01:37 AM
I'm testing NAV 2007 now and so far am very impress, i testing it on a P2 1000GHZ, 512RAM and it don't slow this comp at all, so far i love it

good job to norton this time :thumb: