View Full Version : Internet Suites: Kaspersky 6 or Norton 2007?
Birdman
September 20th, 2006, 02:07 AM
Just curious as how Norton Internet Security 2007 compares to Kaspersky Internet Security 6.0.303?
I'm been reading impressive reviews of the new Norton 2007. Seems like the resource issues have been resolved in this release.
Which security suite is considered better of the two?
After using Norton IS for almost 6 years....I finally decided to leave Symantec behind and move on to Kaspersky (great software, by the way).
Just interested on what other's think about these 2 suites. :)
ASpace
September 20th, 2006, 02:17 AM
-{ Quote: "Just curious as how Norton Internet Security 2007 compares to Kaspersky Internet Security 6.0.303?
I'm been reading impressive reviews of the new Norton 2007. Seems like the resource issues have been resolved in this release.
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I don't like to comment them both or compare them but the so called resource issues is not resolved . Norton has some good feautures but it is still too heavy,IMO *puppy*
dah145
September 20th, 2006, 02:24 AM
Yes, NIS 2007 is heavy compared with KIS 6, but with earlier versions it is lighter. 8)
Both are great in detection, try both, it is your decission.
But I suggest KIS 6.(based on my personal knowledge on both products)
Legendkiller
September 20th, 2006, 04:34 AM
well well again norton being labelled as a resource hog with no reference to the actual things like av/as/firewall etc.
the only way i see norton being heavier than kis6 is the size of package.
kis/nod are always the most promoted AV's at wilders and popular once,sadly,not worth mentioning...
but i would suggest you to try norton2007 and kis6 and than decide for urself.
trjam
September 20th, 2006, 04:49 AM
No contest. Go for the best.
NAMOR
September 20th, 2006, 05:38 AM
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but i would suggest you to try norton2007 and kis6 and than decide for urself." }-
exactly
chaos
September 20th, 2006, 05:46 AM
Well I was a Norton user for 3 years till I found a virus in the HDD's MBR.(MasterBootRecord).
Well since then I switched this resource hog and I never looked back.
Go for KIS or for KAV + firewall.
Also I have to note that in a few days KIS 6 Maintanance Pack 1(build 400(?)or something currently at beta stage build 389) will be released that resolves all the major issues of KIS build 303.
lodore
September 20th, 2006, 07:57 AM
i would surgest kav plus firewall
Legendkiller
September 20th, 2006, 08:47 AM
see,i have no doubts that KAV is better than norton's AV,but you should give facts rather just say its "resource hog" when it comes to norton/mcafee/nero...
tobacco
September 20th, 2006, 11:06 AM
And when it comes to 'Trojan' prevention/detection, it's no contest. KAV- :thumb:
Perman
September 20th, 2006, 12:05 PM
Hi, folks: Both are excellent programs, otherwise they would not have last to this day. Therefore, it is fair for me to say that it is a perfect case of Diamond cut Diamond. Selection of program is very personal thing resembling choosing your own Medical Doctor. Factors such as program itself, your own $$ pocket, and compatability w/ your other programs should be taken into consideration. But one good news for sure ,which is that Rogers-Yahoo hi-speed internet clients have Norton Internet Security Suite 2007 as a free gift,yes free gift from your ISP (could be Canadian Market only). Here you go, choice is yours, exclusively.:)
The Hammer
September 20th, 2006, 12:15 PM
Definitely Norton for me. If I went to a suite and these were the only choices.;D
Patrician
September 20th, 2006, 12:28 PM
-{ Quote: "see,i have no doubts that KAV is better than norton's AV,but you should give facts rather just say its "resource hog" when it comes to norton/mcafee/nero..." }-
The tern "resource hog" refers to a piece of software that uses more of your PC's resouces than it should and has a detrimental effect on the running of your PC. Norton always has been and is wel known to be software that behaves in this way. Figures are not needed in this case.
The Hammer
September 20th, 2006, 12:40 PM
-{ Quote: "The tern "resource hog" refers to a piece of software that uses more of your PC's resouces than it should and has a detrimental effect on the running of your PC. Norton always has been and is wel known to be software that behaves in this way. Figures are not needed in this case." }-When your discussing new software versions figures are always needed to avoid the appearance of a knee jerk reaction. :P
Legendkiller
September 20th, 2006, 12:45 PM
i run a very modes t pc with 2.8 p4,1gb ram and i never ever had any mem usage problem with norton.
even a few weeks back when i had 1.7hgz celeron with 512mb ram i never had a problem with it.
the only software which i really consider a resource hog is panda.
no matter what config u have,it will always take ages at start-up.
farmerlee
September 21st, 2006, 10:20 AM
I'm not too sure about security suites but i tried out norton antivirus 2007 the other day and i was amazed at how light it is. They've definitely made some great improvements.
bigc73542
September 21st, 2006, 02:36 PM
-{ Quote: "The tern "resource hog" refers to a piece of software that uses more of your PC's resouces than it should and has a detrimental effect on the running of your PC. Norton always has been and is wel known to be software that behaves in this way. Figures are not needed in this case." }-
I have never had Norton do that. And I have used norton since it came out on floppy disc when there wern't cd's. And it just keeps getting better with every version,
lodore
September 21st, 2006, 03:16 PM
well sorry i have to disagree with that sure norton use to be good intill it was taken over by a faceless comparation called symantec!
The Hammer
September 21st, 2006, 03:53 PM
-{ Quote: "well sorry i have to disagree with that sure norton use to be good intill it was taken over by a faceless comparation called symantec!" }-Play the entrance music to signal the appearance of Lord Vader(Symantec). ;D Seriously all these comanies are going to become faceless corporations if there any good, it's a byproduct of growth to some degree.
the Tester
September 21st, 2006, 04:01 PM
I'd go with KIS 6.
lodore
September 21st, 2006, 04:05 PM
f-secure seems to be getting biger and maybe thats why f-secure internet secrity uses so much reosurse because i dont think version 2005 did.
and when they get bigger and make they software use more resourse i move on to someone newer in the market so thats why im getting antivir
bigc73542
September 21st, 2006, 07:18 PM
-{ Quote: "well sorry i have to disagree with that sure norton use to be good intill it was taken over by a faceless comparation called symantec!" }-
Well you are entitled to your opinion. Just like I am.:thumb:
ihatenorton2006
September 21st, 2006, 11:58 PM
The word on the street is to get a free Zone Alarm Firewall and a free Advast A/V. You can do boot scans with Advast and the firewall blocks EVERYTHING.Also get free Spybot Search and Destroy, free AdAware and free Spyware blaster. Check yourself at shieldsup.com to see if you are really protected and see if you can stand up to their intense try to break in to your computer to test your firewall. I was 100% protected for free!!
Get all programs at: download.com :thumb:
Your comments are appreciated. :thumb: :thumbd:
farmerlee
September 22nd, 2006, 12:24 AM
-{ Quote: "The word on the street is to get a free Zone Alarm Firewall and a free Advast A/V. You can do boot scans with Advast and the firewall blocks EVERYTHING.Also get free Spybot Search and Destroy, free AdAware and free Spyware blaster. Check yourself at shieldsup.com to see if you are really protected and see if you can stand up to their intense try to break in to your computer to test your firewall. I was 100% protected for free!!
Get all programs at: download.com :thumb:
Your comments are appreciated. :thumb: :thumbd:" }-
My pick would be comodo firewall, avira antivir, spyware blaster and either spyware terminator or windows defender. 100% free and sufficient protection for the average user.
The Hammer
September 22nd, 2006, 12:33 AM
ihatenorton2006 and farmerlee your posting in the wrong thread. I think you want the one entitled "Whats your Security setup"? http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=111264&highlight=Security+Setup This is Internet Suites Kaspersky 6 or Norton 2007.
ASpace
September 22nd, 2006, 04:59 AM
-{ Quote: "The word on the street is to get a free Zone Alarm Firewall and a free Advast A/V. You can do boot scans with Advast and the firewall blocks EVERYTHING.Also get free Spybot Search and Destroy, free AdAware and free Spyware blaster. Check yourself at shieldsup.com to see if you are really protected and see if you can stand up to their intense try to break in to your computer to test your firewall. I was 100% protected for free!!
Get all programs at: download.com :thumb:
Your comments are appreciated. :thumb: :thumbd:" }-
You mean Avast antivirus ,which has free Home Edition . Its site is
www.avast.com
ZoneAlarm also has a free firewall , its site is www.zonelabs.com
Ad-Aware SE Personal
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware
SpyBot Search and Destroy
http://www.safer-networking.org/microsoft.en.html
No need to download from download.com ;D
WigglyTheGreat
September 24th, 2006, 06:12 AM
While I haven't used Norton 20007, I have used Norton Internet Security 2006, 2005, and almost every previous version. I had norton internet security 2006 on my new laptop, nis 2005 on my desktop computer, and also on an older computer. I got annoyed with norton at times because it would take extra time to shut down the system as norton would hang and also the computer was a lot slower to boot after installing norton and it doesn't update often. I finally got fed up and removed them which wasn't the easiest task, and I couldn't be any happier now using Outpost Pro firewall on all machines and Nod32 antivirus on two of them and Kaspersky AV on one. My computers are more responsive now it is very obvious. Kaspersky makes a great av although I haven't used the KIS package just the av which I like very much. I hope norton 2007 did actually improve over previous versions and become less bloated, but I would be surprised if I ever went back to them after seeing how much better the alternatives are. Between the two I would choose Kaspersky any day.
chrisjackson1985
September 24th, 2006, 11:28 AM
well,
both software now have low RAM usage, yes... i said both. :o
norton 2007 has definatly improved on this matter and also improved on boot times and scan speeds too.
both are equal to do the job, personally i would rather kaspersky out of the 2, but personally i think nortons firewall is better than the kaspersky one
norton still takes ages to install and i still dont rate their antispam.
kaspersky slows down internet at high settings and firewall can be iffy sometimes.
both antivirus modules are good with decent scan speeds,
the choice is yours..........
lodore
September 24th, 2006, 02:01 PM
I would have to say kaspersky because i never reccomend something that i wouldnt use myself i mean whats the point inj saying use av B when you wouldnt use it and you know its rubbish.
im not saying eiether one is rubbish.
Zombini
September 24th, 2006, 05:44 PM
NIS 2007 takes around 15MB, KIS 6 takes 25MB but both those numbers are low enough it really doesn't matter.
The biggest differences are as follows:
NIS 2007 has rootkit detection AND REMOVAL. It is using some of the raw NTFS parsing technology from Veritas which were the masters of NTFS scanning, so it doesn't depending on Windows API and hence are not affected by rootkits stealthing their files. This is a BIG PLUS for NIS 2007, KIS 6 has nothing like it and it will take them years to build something like that.
NIS 2007 has excellent (the best, even better than IE7) 0-day phishing protection. It is using heuristics in addition to block lists. KIS 6 has the worst phishing detection I have seen. Then shouldn't have even bothered.
On the other hand NIS 2007 removed its antispam and parental controls and ad blocking features (none of which I use), all of which KIS 6 still retains but dont work very well. KIS 6 antispam really sucks. So there you have it.
And remember that you are entitled to NIS 2007 for free if you have an active NIS 2006 subscription. Just use the same key. So you can always try it out for more than 30 days if you want.
ASpace
September 24th, 2006, 06:28 PM
KAV/KIS 6 does detect rootkits (even very well) with PDM and via signatures ! :thumb:
Hope the red picture helps
WigglyTheGreat
September 24th, 2006, 09:20 PM
Anyone tested out Norton Internet Security 2007 against leak tests yet? Just curious to see how it does. I really do hope Norton is as improved as people are saying it is as it will motivate it's competitors to improve as well hopefully.
Netherlands
September 25th, 2006, 06:04 AM
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On the other hand NIS 2007 removed its antispam and parental controls and ad blocking features (none of which I use), all of which KIS 6 still retains but dont work very well. KIS 6 antispam really sucks. So there you have it.
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They did remove it because that part was not ready for the release. There is now some sort of Service pack/maintenance pack in beta stage that contains all the things you said. When it is released it is free to install !
RiverLights
October 18th, 2006, 03:10 PM
Just a note. I am searching for a suite to provide protection behind a hardware firewall. So have recently tried out both Kaspersky and the 2007 Norton. My general impression is both are very good. You cannot go wrong with either one. ( never thought I would go near Norton again but this new version is a new leap with a far lighter landing).
About the firewall. Norton's work with Sygate - as you know Symantec bought that company - is apparently bearing fine fruit. Here's a PC Magazine commentary on its operation
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2023976,00.asp
( you can also set the firewall to ask you what to do...for those who just love popups)
I downloaded their free add on modules for the privacy protection feature....the prevention of bank account or credit card numbers over web sites, email or IMs ( except in secure online transactions). Both will furnish a very high level of protection, and neither will...in my experience anyway....mess up your system in any way ( except K's very fine real time buffering http scans will slow down a high speed connection a little.....though tech told me that won't happen in the new build. Norton does not slow down broadband)
No installation problems with either. And Kaspersky scans automatically adjust to heavy computer usage on other operations....which lightens the load. That is also an option on Norton....but you have to minimize the scan window for it to go into effect ( at least as far as i can tell so far).
Anyway, my personal opinion is that you have two very fine choices.
apm
October 20th, 2006, 12:14 PM
Comparing KAV 6 to NAV 2007, they both have good detection rates in published tests. Though NAV 2007 have improvement in system response time (feel lighter), but it is sooooooo bloated that use over 30mb ram at idel, installs over 1000 files and takes up over 150mb disk space, comparable to an office suite. Though for today's PC ram or hdd are not problem.
KAV 6 have really good detection rates and use much less resources, but at first the system may feel some slowdown, but as KAV save scanned files checksum to file, short time later the system response time have no slowdown, both KAV or KIS 6. But Kaspersky 6 is quite buggy, I got system or program errors sometimes. And KAV can detect virus/malwares that NAV can't detect from my experiences as I surf some high risk websites.
quding
October 20th, 2006, 12:21 PM
-{ Quote: "I don't like to comment them both or compare them but the so called resource issues is not resolved . Norton has some good feautures but it is still too heavy,IMO *puppy*" }-
I agreed with you
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