Tired of Nero-Burning - Alternatives?

[Tommy]

Because i don't need all the functions of blown up software on my Laptop (first Photoshop was killed), Nero Burning is going to fall. I need some suggestions regarding small alternatives. I heard about Prasi Ones, Sateira, etc. Any suggestions from your experinces folks?

[WSFuser]

ashampoo burning studio. i couple of ppl recommended it to me when I was looking for a nero alternative.

[Tommy]

-{ Quote: "ashampoo burning studio. i couple of ppl recommended it to me when I was looking for a nero alternative." }-
I tested that one, seams to be good, but - don't ask me why - i don't like it. I think i don't like these 'What would you like to do' Dialogs.

[WSFuser]

u mentioned prassi ones, have u tried that one?

it wouldve been my first alternative, but i could never get it to burn a disc.

[Tommy]

-{ Quote: "u mentioned prassi ones, have u tried that one?

it wouldve been my first alternative, but i could never get it to burn a disc." }-
If there is a shareware available i will give it a try.

[zapjb]

You mentioned Sateira. I use their DropToCD. It burns DVDs, ISOs, bootable media & more. 10x less system resources than Nero. And the whole program is 1.5MB vs 125+MB for Nero. ;D

[WSFuser]

Tommy, try this page:

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/cdr_software/cdr_applications/prassi_ones.cfm

zapjb, can it verify cds/dvds after burning?

[Durad]

My new (old) PC come with Prassi CD burner, its not bad.

I like HT Fireman, find somewhere version 1.4 its latest free version after that they charge for software....

[zapjb]

-{ Quote: "Tommy, try this page:

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/cdr_software/cdr_applications/prassi_ones.cfm

zapjb, can it verify cds/dvds after burning?" }-
I don't think so.

But it supports BURNProof. Also you can use burning simulation.

Also the features considering its size & lack of system impact are incredible. From the site.

DropToCD (DataCD/DVD) is a very easy to use tool to create and burn data CDs and DVDs based on drag&drop technology. Just drag&drop files and folders to a little window and hit 'Burn disc' from popup menu to burn a CD or DVD. Simply as 1,2,3... Also you can burn ISO images, erase rewritable CDs or DVDs and more...

With DropToCD you are able to:
Burn data CD or DVD
Burn ISO images to CD / DVD
Save ISO images
Erase rewritable CD / DVD
View and extract sessions from multisession CD / DVD
and more...

Features:
All 32-bit Windows versions are supported
Supports CD-R / CD-RW / DVD-R / DVD-RW / DVD+R / DVD+RW / DVD-RAM
Tested with SCSI, IDE / EIDE, USB CD / DVD recorders
Create multisession CD / DVD
Create bootable CD / DVD or ISO images
Supports ISO9660 / Joliet files systems, burning simulation, OPC, BURNProof...
and more...

Benefits:
On the fly burning. No temporary files
Supports long filenames and foldernames (max 108 characters)
Burn over 300000 files and 80000 folders
Doesn't use any dlls or ocxs. Built-in ASPI layer
Displays necessary information about recorder and disc
Fast ISO image building speed
and more...

[Tommy]

Ones and Sateira are indeed two nice programs.
- ONES is very impressive; to the interface from ONES one has to get used to.
- I like Sateira, but it does not support verify cds/dvds after burning, thats bad.

[hsj]

-{ Quote: "Tommy, try this page:

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/cdr_software/cdr_applications/prassi_ones.cfm

zapjb, can it verify cds/dvds after burning?" }-


-{ Quote: "I don't think so.

" }-

It does. I have been using Ones for almost a year now. I would say my overall success rate for burning is about 95-98%. Give it a try.

[Tommy]

@HSJ
For databurning in ONES what do you use from your experience for closed CD's? SAT Mode 2 closed or TAO Mode 2 closed?
And for Multisessions?

[betauser2]

here's a screenshot of the interface

http://www.upithere.com/thumb/4776.jpeg (http://www.upithere.com/view/4776.html)

her's a screenshot of the wizard (displaying options)

http://www.upithere.com/thumb/4777.jpeg (http://www.upithere.com/view/4777.html)

I'm moving onto Roxio Media Creator 9 (hoping to get my hands on the OEM version when it's out) simply because I need a software that is user friendly for the whole family. ONES is light and driverless, but IMO more suited to advanced users (that's me out).

[hsj]

-{ Quote: "@HSJ
For databurning in ONES what do you use from your experience for closed CD's? SAT Mode 2 closed or TAO Mode 2 closed?
And for Multisessions?" }-

I burn data cds & movies if that's what you are asking. I normally would use track-at-once mode 2 closed for burning. I've done quite a few cds with session-at-once but I never added more stuff to the first session. I hope I've answered your questions.

[betauser2]

-{ Quote: "@HSJ
For databurning in ONES what do you use from your experience for closed CD's? SAT Mode 2 closed or TAO Mode 2 closed?
And for Multisessions?" }-

I personally don't change any settings unless it promts me to do so, so I leave it as TAO Mode 2 Open/closed

[betauser2]

heres some info from help file

-{ Quote: "Track-at-Once (TAO)

A method of writing data to disc. Each time a track (data or audio) is completed, the recording laser is stopped, even if another track will be written immediately afterwards. Link and run blocks are written when the laser is turned on and off." }-

-{ Quote: "Session-at-Once (SAO)

Session-at-Once is a subset of Disc-at-Once, used for CD Extra. In Session-at-Once recording, a first session containing multiple audio tracks is recorded in a single pass, then the laser is turned off, but the disc is not closed. Then a second (data) session is written and closed.
" }-

[Tommy]

@hjs @betauser2
Thanks, i will give Prasi further tests. So far i like it very much for my Laptop.

[sweater]

-{ Quote: "Because i don't need all the functions of blown up software on my Laptop (first Photoshop was killed), Nero Burning is going to fall. I need some suggestions regarding small alternatives. I heard about Prasi Ones, Sateira, etc. Any suggestions from your experinces folks?" }-


For Music burning I use Apple iTune, and for datas...sorry but I still uses Nero. ;D ;) It's hard for me to replace Nero, it looks elegant, cool and very reliable...and aside from that, it's made in Germany. So it has a German quality engineering. 8)

[Defenestration]

I would highly recommend ImgBurn which is free (although you should make a small donation if you use it). I used to use Nero myself, but have now switched to IB. It doesn't curently support multi-session though.

www.imgburn.com

[Tommy]

I use ImageBurn also. Great program for burning images, and 'hey,as i see suports building ISO files now. That's fantastic, didn't knew that. Multisession i nearly don't use, so they often make trouble.

[Mrkvonic]

Hello,
Try CD Burner XP Pro.
http://www.cdburnerxp.se/
Mrk

[Defenestration]

-{ Quote: "I use ImageBurn also. Great program for burning images, and 'hey,as i see suports building ISO files now. That's fantastic, didn't knew that." }-As well as ISO creation/burning, it also supports burning files/folders to CD/DVD on-the-fly.

IB is actively developed by a very talented programmer, and is the only free solution that has worked for me.

There is also a very helpful forum.

[Tommy]

-{ Quote: "IB is actively developed by a very talented programmer" }-
I think we _all_ used his former little program ;D

[zapjb]

-{ Quote: "I think we _all_ used his former little program ;D" }-
What was it?

[Defenestration]

Check out the IB home page and all will be revealed.

[Tommy]

-{ Quote: "What was it?" }-
wrong Forum ;D

[zapjb]

-{ Quote: "Check out the IB home page and all will be revealed." }-
Thanks. That was a Doh! on my part. ;D

[TOMxEU]

I use AVS Disc Creator (http://www.avsmedia.com/DiscCreator/index.aspx) for burning files (no DVD video & etc).
I have LC ISO Creator (http://www.lucersoft.com/freeware.php) to create ISO and ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com/) to burn ISO.

[Dina]

ive been using ashampoo and prassi for a year or so. latest nero download is 190 MB :o

[Tommy]

Ok thanks chicos y chicas....
I think i stay with ImageBurn and i am thinking about buying Prasi for some rar burning stuff i need sometimes.
These two tools do everything i need, little space and stable. ImageBurn is excellent and the programer is adding nice features every new release, good forum. What else do we need.

[zapjb]

-{ Quote: "ive been using ashampoo and prassi for a year or so. latest nero download is 190 MB :o" }-
190MB! What a joke. :-X

[Tommy]

-{ Quote: "190MB! What a joke. :-X" }-
even if you only install the pure Nero-Burn aplication you will stay with arround 60MB :thumbd:

[Dina]

-{ Quote: "even if you only install the pure Nero-Burn aplication you will stay with arround 60MB :thumbd:" }-

tommy, what replaced the dead photoshop in your system?

[Tommy]

-{ Quote: "tommy, what replaced the dead photoshop in your system?" }-
Photofiltre Freeware (http://www.photofiltre.com/)
Photofiltre Studio - Payware Version (http://www.photofiltre-studio.com/frames-en.htm)

[WSFuser]

-{ Quote: "As well as ISO creation/burning, it also supports burning files/folders to CD/DVD on-the-fly." }-
so how do u get imgburn to make a data cd?

[Tommy]

-{ Quote: "so how do u get imgburn to make a data cd?" }-
In simple words it goes via Mode->Build (Build Image) and burn. You have the option to save the image and burn it later, or 'Burn on the fly' directly to the CD/DVD.
Here are some Guids
(http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showforum=4)

[herbalist]

Check out BurnAtOnce (http://burnatonce.com/), an Open Source burner. Very compact. Burns music, data, image files. I've burned several Linux and BSD versions with it. Also copies from one CD to another and reads to image. Will also burn DVDs when used with ProDVD. The interface isn't fancy but it works good. Don't be fooled by its small size.
Rick

[Tommy]

-{ Quote: "Check out BurnAtOnce (http://burnatonce.com/), an Open Source burner. Very compact. Burns music, data, image files. I've burned several Linux and BSD versions with it. Also copies from one CD to another and reads to image. Will also burn DVDs when used with ProDVD. The interface isn't fancy but it works good. Don't be fooled by its small size.
Rick" }-
Used this one a long time ago, but development was stopped. But thanks anyway. What's also nice for quick burning is the plugin for Total Commander.

[FastGame]

-{ Quote: "Check out BurnAtOnce (http://burnatonce.com/), an Open Source burner. Very compact. Burns music, data, image files. I've burned several Linux and BSD versions with it. Also copies from one CD to another and reads to image. Will also burn DVDs when used with ProDVD. The interface isn't fancy but it works good. Don't be fooled by its small size.
Rick" }-

Yep, and it doesn't matter if "development was stopped" its still today one of the best :)

[Tommy]

-{ Quote: "Yep, and it doesn't matter if "development was stopped" its still today one of the best :)" }-
Seams that i have to look at it again ::)

So i have to make a decisions between:
1. Prasi Ones
2. Image Burn
3. burnatonce

I don't want to use several burn software. Could result in conflict in case of Multisessions. Seams that Nr. 2 and 3 cover all, up to music burning and that for free (well some donation).

I hate to make this kind of decisions :). I like all three of them.

[FastGame]

-{ Quote: "I hate to make this kind of decisions :). I like all three of them." }-

I use ImageBurn for DVD and burnatonce for everything else. If I were to pay $$ for something it would be Prasi Ones.

If you're going to backup DVD's you'll need a few other things no matter which one of the 3 you choose.

[buzzqw]

i use ImgBurn and no other.

About lack of audio cd buring support i use foobar....

BHH

[aigle]

Nice discussion. I want to ask one Q.
How u people compare CD BurnerXP Pro and IMGBurn? Both are being actively developed.
Which one is better and feature-rich?
Also do they can verify data after buning?

Thanks.

[aigle]

-{ Quote: "So i have to make a decisions between:
1. Prasi Ones
2. Image Burn
3. burnatonce

" }-


By Image Burn u mean IMGBurn?

[FastGame]

-{ Quote: "By Image Burn u mean IMGBurn?" }-Yes, ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com/)

[Tommy]

-{ Quote: "How u people compare CD BurnerXP Pro and IMGBurn? Both are being actively developed.
Which one is better and feature-rich?
Also do they can verify data after buning?
Thanks." }-
- First the GUI and Handling of those two are totaly different. CDB has a Explorer GUI, IB something like Burnatonce
- Both don't support for now _no_ Multisession.
- IMGBurn is build of the idea to burn everything via Images. So also if you only want to burn _one_ file, IB builds first internal an image and burns it than on the fly. The possibilities of fine tuning are endless in IB.
- CDB is simple and does what it has to do without big adjustment possibilities.
- IB is far more advanced i think and reacher of adjustments.
- IB can verify burnings, CDB i don't know.

[Tommy]

-{ Quote: "i use ImgBurn and no other.
About lack of audio cd buring support i use foobar....
BHH" }-
Best one for doing this job is Burrn (http://www.burrrn.net/?page_id=4)

[ErikAlbert]

I'm not a fan of Nero Suite either. Too many functions I don't need and the trial Nero Premium failed already one time writing an .iso-file on CD, which is a simple task.
So I'm going to use freewares for awhile until I know exactly what I need regarding CD's and DVD's.
An all-in-one software isn't a good choice IMO and my readings confirm it.

[Tommy]

-{ Quote: "So I'm going to use freewares for awhile until I know exactly what I need regarding CD's and DVD's.
An all-in-one software isn't a good choice IMO and my readings confirm it." }-
Which applications are you testing for which task?

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "Which applications are you testing for which task?" }-
I can't give you a good answer yet, because my computer is brand new and burning CD/DVD's isn't my priority #1 yet. I had more urgent problems in the beginning.

But I have already 3 softwares in mind :

CDBurnerXP Pro
http://www.cdburnerxp.se/download.php
DeepBurner
http://www.deepburner.com
ImgBurn
http://www.imgburn.com/

to replace an older version of Nero, that was delivered with my new BenQ CD/DVD-writer. Nero Premium failed, but the older version of Nero v6.6.1.4 didn't fail yet. Right now I hardly burn CD's, but that will change in the future.

[Tommy]

/OT on
And again a blown up application which got killed
SnagIt killed
FastStone Screen Capture (http://www.faststone.org/FSCaptureDetail.htm) Freeware installed 1.2MB.

Imazing program :thumb:
/OT off

We should open a special Thread for this kind of discussion.

[HAN]

I agree! FastStone SC is (IMO) the best free screen capture utility now out!

Too bad Nero Express 6 is not somehow available. I know it's not small but IMO, it offers perhaps the best overall options of anything mentioned so far. To date, I have never had problems with my copy. I have tried CDBurner XP Pro, Deep Burner and the Silent Night Micro CD Burner and always come back to Nero...

[aigle]

To burn ISO images, I use terabyte freeware BURNCDCC and it can verify as well.

[aigle]

-{ Quote: "I agree! FastStone SC is (IMO) the best free screen capture utility now out!" }-

I totally agree with u. I use FS image viewer as well to edit these snapshots later.

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "I totally agree with u. I use FS image viewer as well to edit these snapshots later." }-
And it's a good alternative for Nero-Burning. (just kidding) ;D

[dog]

Please no more OT comments ;) -- the topic is Nero-Burning - Alternatives

Thanks in Advance;

Steve

[herbalist]

-{ Quote: "So i have to make a decisions between:
1. Prasi Ones
2. Image Burn
3. burnatonce
........
I hate to make this kind of decisions . I like all three of them." }-
Choosing between 3 isn't so bad. How about making it 4?
Before I found BurnAtOnce, I was trying Fireburner. (http://www.fireburner.com/index.php?page=4) I was using version 1.06 at the time. Has a fully functional trial period. Incredibly small file, 446kb zip file! Until I tried it, I thought it was a corrupted download, too small, or so I thought. Haven't tried the newer version, but 1.06 is unzip and go. Interface is a bit strange, could be better, but it burned everything I asked of it. Would have bought it had I not found BAO. Give it a look. It redefines compact software.
Rick

[Tommy]

-{ Quote: "Choosing between 3 isn't so bad. How about making it 4?
Before I found BurnAtOnce, I was trying Fireburner. (http://www.fireburner.com/index.php?page=4) I was using version 1.06 at the time. Has a fully functional trial period. Incredibly small file, 446kb zip file! Until I tried it, I thought it was a corrupted download, too small, or so I thought. Haven't tried the newer version, but 1.06 is unzip and go. Interface is a bit strange, could be better, but it burned everything I asked of it. Would have bought it had I not found BAO. Give it a look. It redefines compact software.
Rick" }-
More complicated decicion :). I know fireburner well; i used is also some years ago, it's main pupouse was burning Audio-Cds.
But i think i stay with BAO and ImgBurn for the dayly stuff. 'Burrn' for burning music, and some special freeware if i need to backup DVD, which is not very often the case.
In total about 12 MB :thumb:

[twhk000]

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[RipVanTinkle]

I was a long time user of Nero but I stopped late last year
I've tried all the programs mentioned here plus some more
but I finally went for Padus Discjuggler and never regreted it
Does everything I want it to do + some :)

www.padus.com/

[aigle]

@twhk000

Can u boot from these mounted images in any way?

[WSFuser]

i dont think so.

alcohol lets you create a virtual drive so u can mount the images in Windows.

[jubilee]

copyToDVD is a good replacement of nero


here is the link http://www.vso-software.fr/

best regards

[Arup]

Prassi ONES is excellent, just like the older Prassi which I truly missed, have dumped NERO for bloat and switched to this one for good now, best of all, works equally well on my 965 motherboard with the pesky 3rd party J Micron IDE controller on XP64, most are having problems with Nero when J Micron is there.

[twhk000]

-{ Quote: "@twhk000

Can u boot from these mounted images in any way?" }-


No you cant boot from the mounted images.....


Knight
Ps i have never tried presuming that you cant boot...try pls and let us know all