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cbminfo
September 2nd, 2006, 01:33 PM
I posted this in an XP news group. I expected Acronis to fix everything.
I back up C: weekly. I restored from 2 weeks ago when I knew my DVD stuff was working.

After reboot, you can read the rest below:
>NG : Not real sure when it happened. I don't play DVD's too often, but I do recall playing one a week back.
>NG :
>NG : I did succeed in getting one of the 300+ DVD's to run with life support, no fast forwarding, no jumping to chapters or new movies. Just wait till it decides it's ready to play, and let it run at normal speed.
>NG : 1 out of 15 DVD's semi worked once.
>NG :
>NG : I used Acronis to restore the C: drive, but that did nothing. DVD's still load up, window blows up about 200%, then settles to off at nothing playing. Player needs to be unloaded with task manager.
>NG :
>NG : Had to run CHKDSK /f after Acronis, cause 2 things claimed to be corrupted.
>NG : cicerouiwndframe:hcenter.exe <- this right here was one of the corrupted. I have no idea what it is. The other thing was related to my email spam sorter.
>NG :
>NG : The player is Nero 6.6 show time.
>NG : I uninstalled Nero, reinstalled it. and the upgrades.
>NG : I'm running SFC/SCANNOW to see if there's something in C: that shouldn't be there. That came thru clean
>NG : I installed adobe premiere pro 2, but it failed to do what I wanted, and also screwed with my ATI video card database. So removed it. I suspect it left other trash all over that may be related.
>NG : I used the uninstaller, but I think I need a surgical uninstaller for adobe to either restore or delete what it crapped up. But I have no idea what it dropped.
>NG :
>NG : Any other ideas welcome. skip the reinstall of ATI. I probably will anyway's. But I'd prefer replacing one file to a scattergun cure.

foghorne
September 3rd, 2006, 08:06 AM
I'm not sure I see how you have conclusively proved this to be an ATI problem. Of course it could be, but I just don't see it yet.

When you knew your DVD stuff was working that was presumably because you could run the program which eventually turned out to be corrupted ?

What's to say that the executable file became corrupted while you were running it-remember your verification that it was OK was using a copy of the exe in memory at that time, not one on the disk.

Also, could someone with a better memory than me, comment on the scenario where a bad sector develops on a disk which was not there when a backup was done. Will that sector get used on a subsequent restore?

F.

-{ Quote: "I posted this in an XP news group. I expected Acronis to fix everything.
I back up C: weekly. I restored from 2 weeks ago when I knew my DVD stuff was working.

After reboot, you can read the rest below:
>NG : Not real sure when it happened. I don't play DVD's too often, but I do recall playing one a week back.
>NG :
>NG : I did succeed in getting one of the 300+ DVD's to run with life support, no fast forwarding, no jumping to chapters or new movies. Just wait till it decides it's ready to play, and let it run at normal speed.
>NG : 1 out of 15 DVD's semi worked once.
>NG :
>NG : I used Acronis to restore the C: drive, but that did nothing. DVD's still load up, window blows up about 200%, then settles to off at nothing playing. Player needs to be unloaded with task manager.
>NG :
>NG : Had to run CHKDSK /f after Acronis, cause 2 things claimed to be corrupted.
>NG : cicerouiwndframe:hcenter.exe <- this right here was one of the corrupted. I have no idea what it is. The other thing was related to my email spam sorter.
>NG :
>NG : The player is Nero 6.6 show time.
>NG : I uninstalled Nero, reinstalled it. and the upgrades.
>NG : I'm running SFC/SCANNOW to see if there's something in C: that shouldn't be there. That came thru clean
>NG : I installed adobe premiere pro 2, but it failed to do what I wanted, and also screwed with my ATI video card database. So removed it. I suspect it left other trash all over that may be related.
>NG : I used the uninstaller, but I think I need a surgical uninstaller for adobe to either restore or delete what it crapped up. But I have no idea what it dropped.
>NG :
>NG : Any other ideas welcome. skip the reinstall of ATI. I probably will anyway's. But I'd prefer replacing one file to a scattergun cure." }-

seekforever
September 3rd, 2006, 10:56 AM
-{ Quote: "...

Also, could someone with a better memory than me, comment on the scenario where a bad sector develops on a disk which was not there when a backup was done. Will that sector get used on a subsequent restore?

F." }-

Good question. I don't know for sure but I think it could well be. The only way to check for bad sectors before doing a restore would be to run the equivalent of chkdsk /r and that would take a very noticeable amount of time.

Also, TI doesn't necessarily restore the sectors back to their original locations so it is also possible a sector that was previously bad and undetected could be used in a restore.

IMO, it is a good idea to run chkdsk /r on all drive letters from time-to-time but I must admit it doesn't happen very frequently on my machines. The other thing is what is the response of Windows if it encounters a bad sector when trying to load a file? Should give some kind of a read-error message if it can't do it. AFAIK, sector data is written with error-correcting data to automatically correct errors when read although there are limitations to the severity of the read error it can correct.