F-secure Internet Security 2007 Beta

[mrhero]

http://support.f-secure.com/beta/

[lodore]

thanks for the info I have just signed up to it.

can anyone who trys it post some screenshots.

[Chubb]

-{ Quote: "...The antispyware feature is redesigned to give you total protection against any unwanted software..." }-

Just wonder if they are developing their own antispyware module in the 2007 product line, or will license the new Ad-Aware 2007...

[Legendkiller]

-{ Quote: "Just wonder if they are developing their own antispyware module in the 2007 product line, or will license the new Ad-Aware 2007..." }-
it seems they are developing their own,coz ad-aware 2006 is far from getting released,so a re-designed antispyware definetly points in new direction
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New features since release of Internet Security 2006 Service Pack 1 include:
- New system control – Host-based Intrusion Prevention System
A new application has been introduced to replace system control, browser control and application launch and manipulation control to provide 0-day protection against unknown malware based on suspicious behavior. The new application allows for various profiles to tailor the level of warnings and control for the user, providing low noise level with good protection with its default settings.

-Trust relationship between System Control and Application control
Integration of the two features provides users better experience of use while using networks safely.

-Improved Integrated Anti-Spyware
Two-engine solution in spyware detection enables improved detection rate, keeping the removal capabilities as good as before for the users. The integration has been enhanced to include target scanning, in addition to real-time scanning and manual system scans. Improvements also include ability to find hidden spyware with F-Secure Blacklight rootkit scanning.

-Web Traffic Scanning
Web traffic can be scanned for viruses and preventing the file content reaching the user system on protocol level. This feature is not turned on by default. Web traffic scanning bases on same traffic filtering technology (LSP, Layered Service Provider) available for filtering as with Parental Control.

-Scanning of all files enabled and made default for Virus & Spy Protection Real-time scanning

[Chubb]

-{ Quote: "New features since release of Internet Security 2006 Service Pack 1 include:
New system control – Host-based Intrusion Prevention System
A new application has been introduced to replace system control, browser control and application launch and manipulation control to provide 0-day protection against unknown malware based on suspicious behavior. The new application allows for various profiles to tailor the level of warnings and control for the user, providing low noise level with good protection with its default settings. " }-

Would that be the PDM module equivalent in KAV/KIS 6.0? :o

[Infinity]

probably ... but if that is the case (it has been so for a long time..) it would be up to the user itself to stick with the original or go with F-Secure .. Two great suites imho!!

[lodore]

seems good. i have read the release notes from the email and it uses less processes and uses less ram this is great news to me!!!

I have signed up to the testting but havent got an email yet
lodore. I am still gonna test nod32 3.0 beta when it comes out and bitdefender 10 fullversion.

dont get me wrong buy it seems there are problems with kav and kis6.0 even thou they are proper versions and not betas. there doesnt seem to be any sort of problems with f-secure when they are fully released except quite alot of processes and memory useage but the protection is superb.



jerrym, are you going to be testing this?

[Chubb]

-{ Quote: "I have signed up to the testting but havent got an email yet
lodore. " }-

The beta e-mail arrives within a few seconds...;D

A 72MB Download!!! :o Bigger than the 63MB for 2006

The mail included a special price for beta testers:

F-Secure Internet Security 2007 Pre-order Offer for Beta testers
Your Price: USD 39.00 (+VAT)
Your Price: EUR 39.95 (inc VAT)

[Legendkiller]

plz, someone post a screenshot..

[lodore]

i have got my email now.

chubb read the release notes it says less processes and less system reourses used so why its a bigger download i dont know

[cdr]

I don't mean, necessarily, to direct this to a specific person, but to anyone in this thread. For those of us who have never participated in any beta testing, are these open to even "intermediate" users, like myself, or only "advanced" users (in terms of computer knowledge)? At the end of the testing, are the beta testers usually offered a discount, if they want to purchase the software tested? Just curious--as I said, I have never done beta testing at all, but have been somewhat interested. Thanks in advance for any comments!:D

[lodore]

in this one there is a discount on the software right now if you sign up.

as to if its for newbies or advanced users Im not sure.

as long you you report the bugs if there are any problems.

[Lollan]

I completely uninstalled Nod32 for testing purposes of this, restarted. Installed F-Secure, restarted. Now I am boot looping, yay! Went into safe mode, disabled all startup entries and services not crucial, to no avail. About to try a repair installation of Windows XP. :(

[Legendkiller]

-{ Quote: "I completely uninstalled Nod32 for testing purposes of this, restarted. Installed F-Secure, restarted. Now I am boot looping, yay! Went into safe mode, disabled all startup entries and services not crucial, to no avail. About to try a repair installation of Windows XP. :(" }-
my god,it completely cracked your pc...
i will wait now for other's to post their views...

[lodore]

omg lucky i ididnt try it lol. i never got sent a xp disc. but di hope people arent going to distrust it because of a problem on one persons pc.

[Legendkiller]

-{ Quote: "omg lucky i ididnt try it lol. i never got sent a xp disc. but di hope people arent going to distrust it because of a problem on one persons pc." }-
for that we need a few bravehearts to try it first...

[lodore]

true we do i will try it on my windows ME pc soon. if it wasnt foer the beta testers at the start the finished product would never happern. anyone got it up and running? and are in a persistion to upload screen
shots?
lodore

[eBBox]

Installed and running. No probs here so far :)

[Lollan]

FDISR FTW I suppose, glad I had a snapshot up. Trying to replicate problem atm, crossing fingers.

[ashishtx]

screen shot
182513

[ashishtx]

182514

[Chubb]

Hi ashishtx,

Thanks for the screenshot. Do you find any HIPS in FIS2007 similar to the PDM module in KAV/KIS 6.0?

[ashishtx]

I am not that familiar with HIPS but when i tried to install ccleaner with yahoo toolbar, it asked me about a temporary file trying to change registry. I suppose that was related to yahoo toolbar. I denied it and the toolbar was not installed but ccleaner was installed with no problems.
182515

[ashishtx]

182518

[Littlemutt]

-{ Quote: "I completely uninstalled Nod32 for testing purposes of this, restarted. Installed F-Secure, restarted. Now I am boot looping, yay! Went into safe mode, disabled all startup entries and services not crucial, to no avail. About to try a repair installation of Windows XP. :(" }-

I too removed Nod32, and tried the f-secure 2007 Beta. I was prompted during the install that it would conflict with Lavasoft Ad-aware and asked to remove it, I let it remove Ad-aware (after unplugging the network cable as advised), and the install completed.

I performed an install of the Beta without the Parental controls feature. I am using WinXP Pro SP2 fully patched on an AMD Athlon 650mhz CPU 512meg RAM, ATI 9500Pro video card.

I too went into 'looping' restarts. The machine would boot up to the login screen, and after entering my login, it lasted about 5 secs and restarted. I let it cycle 3 times, then gave up and rolled back to a previous known good build.

So much for testing, and just to let you know, your not alone.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20060821 Minefield/3.0a1, Firefox ID:2006082104 [cairo]

[dah145]

-{ Quote: "182518" }-
Looks heavy in resources :'(

[Technic]

Hi!

FSIS 2007 beta up and running without problems. Might look heavy when looking processes, but FSIS 2007 Beta runs here nicely.

Please read release notes (known issues) before installing. And as always, use reg cleaner after uninstalling previous security progs.

[Durad]

Nice features but it slow down my system a lot comparing to NOD.
For people with 3Ghz/>512mb machines it should be ok.

They used to give free software for good beta testers before..

[Legendkiller]

yes installed fine here,i am updating the signatures now...i found that certain "fssm32.exe" is causing slow start-up by taking 60-92% of memory at start-up...
The AS is still ad-aware and there a quite a few new things installed,i am sorry i haven't used FSIS 2006 for a while,like
HIPS,GEMINI.Pegasus,and i don't think we had web-http scanning before...

[lodore]

but this is only the first beta the later betas should use less resourse. btw fsis2006 uses 19 processes. so the new one uses alot less. you are right the current version doesnt have HIPs, gemini or pegisis.

[lodore]

any other info and pictures people can share?

[Legendkiller]

damn! the un-installer isn't working!!!!

[lodore]

email them here=uk-home-support@f-secure.com

[supergravy]

I uninstalled kav6 and outpost firewall and am giving this a try. So far everything is running really well.

I had to make a network rule to get file and printer sharing going. Everything else, including a proxy program and bitcomet, are working without even a prompt. Not sure that I actually like how automatic all of this happens. I went in to see bitcomet under the applications list of the firewall and was surprised that i could not define an incoming port. It is an allow all or none type of setting.

The activity monitor is also lame compared to that of most of the dedicated firewall programs. This is the first all in one security program I have tried in a long time so I might be a little critical here.

This machine is running winxp sp2 on an Athlon X2-4200 with 1mb memory. Will have to test some more but this seems to be decent software. Just need to make sure it is protecting what I expect it to.

[Technic]

-{ Quote: "damn! the un-installer isn't working!!!!" }-

It worked here without problems.

[lodore]

ive been using f-secure since the 2005 version and got no viruses and if a virus trys to download it does block the download this has happerned quite a few times. its a bit much on resourses but i dont care that much and this beta seems to be lighter by the look of the screen shots but only time will tell

[heuristic]

Is there any thing new with the AVP (Kaspersky engine) ? Only standard antivirus databases without additional databases?

[Legendkiller]

lucky you,thanks to system restore i was able to cure my pc...
The un-installer did run,but it didn't remove anything....the un-install process ended in matter of seconds and asked me to reboot..
and to my surprise not even a single file was removed...

[Lollan]

Just another promotion for FDISR. :)

[lodore]

or just dont use betas lol

[Lollan]

-{ Quote: "or just dont use betas lol" }-

I rather enjoy beta testing, personally, it's not much of a frustration to restore your system from a snapshot if it causes complications. It's all rather interesting to watch a product develop and release gold for me.

Perhaps, I should find some friends. :)

[lodore]

i do sometimes enjoy beta testing but i never use the first one i let the pawns tyr it out first lol

[wawy]

hello,

one news about the hips of fs2007 ; http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/archive-082006.html#00000956

[lodore]

durad if you read the release notes it says ascan all files set as default this may impact on older computers and slow down boot time so if this is an issue to the user you can change the option to custom and choose scan certains files only.

[lodore]

the other day i emailed f-secure and told them about kaspersky ichecker and Istreams technology and explained how it worked. they emailed me back today and they thought it was a great idea and they will tell someone higher up.

basically the email said it is a great technology to invest in since it has a checksum solution. that would help alot in the scanning process.

i hope they do try and ask kaspersky if they can use the technology and impument it in to f-secure 2007. as people know they already use part of kaspersky technology so it might make it eaiser to use those ones.


lodore

[NAMOR]

Anyone else have this GUI bug while scanning? The stop/cancel scan button appears blank while the scanner is active...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/NAMOR/f-secureBeta.jpg

[ashishtx]

Yes, same gui error here.

[Legendkiller]

-{ Quote: "Anyone else have this GUI bug while scanning? The stop/cancel scan button appears blank while the scanner is active...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/NAMOR/f-secureBeta.jpg" }-
yup,ur not alone...

[lodore]

have you reported the bug?

[NAMOR]

-{ Quote: "have you reported the bug?" }-


yes... ;D

[rdsu]

Why F-Secure programs are always resources hog!?

[lodore]

no idea but because of this im thinking of switching but i will wait and try f-secure 2007 when it goes final.

[Legendkiller]

-{ Quote: "yes... ;D" }-
yes! has anyone heard regarding a new build??

[lodore]

i havent

[Chubb]

-{ Quote: "yes! has anyone heard regarding a new build??" }-

No new build has been released so far...

[Technic]

New version F-Secure Internet Security 2007 beta (build 315)

Dear beta tester,

I'm happy to announce that the new beta version of F-Secure Internet Security 2007 is available!

Please download and test it as soon you can!

Subscribe: http://support.f-secure.com/beta/
and you will get your subscription number and download instructions.

If you already have subscription number for Internet Security 2007 you can download new version from here, http://download.f-secure.com/fsis2007beta.exe
Please read release notes before installing:
http://download.f-secure.com/fsis2007releasenotes.rtf

Important!
As we are still finalizing the upgrade and sidegrade features, there are special circumstances in which these may not work. This version should not be installed on top of existing F-Secure products or on top of other security suites. We recommend that you manually remove any previous products before installing Internet Security 2007 beta.

This version can be installed over IS 2007 beta build 278.

Remember that in addition to the opportunity to influence the development of F-secure software, all testers who provide feedback during the test period will automatically be entered into a prize draw. Three (3) randomly picked entrants will receive an iPod Mp3 player.

[controler]

Does this require an activation key or can it just be installed?

Thanks

[lodore]

once you have installed the new build can you post some new screenshots of the resourse useage and stuff?

[Technic]

-{ Quote: "Does this require an activation key or can it just be installed?

Thanks" }-


You need an activation key. Just register and you will be set.

[Legendkiller]

i hope the un-installer works.

[lodore]

if you read the relalease notes it says it is fixed

[Legendkiller]

-{ Quote: "if you read the relalease notes it says it is fixed" }-
ur right!

[lodore]

yup so if you install it again, can you post some screenshots of taskmanager and stuff?

[starfish_001]

How are people finding the firewall functions? I'm having some difficulty getting prompts for access

[NAMOR]

-{ Quote: "How are people finding the firewall functions? I'm having some difficulty getting prompts for access" }-


Do you have the "application control" set to prompt for new apps? By default it's set tp allow...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/NAMOR/f-secure.jpg

[starfish_001]

-{ Quote: "Do you have the "application control" set to prompt for new apps? By default it's set tp allow...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/NAMOR/f-secure.jpg" }-


Thanks I have that ooption set but it does not prompt

- so default rules work well but other app don't get easy rules from a wizard

[NAMOR]

-{ Quote: "Thanks I have that ooption set but it does not prompt

- so default rules work well but other app don't get easy rules from a wizard" }-


Maybe it's a bug with the beta.

[starfish_001]

-{ Quote: "Maybe it's a bug with the beta." }-
indeed