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Antarctica
August 20th, 2006, 05:03 PM
I just want to know if it is normal that it took 1h 38 min. to copy a snapshot of 5.40Gb to a external USB Harddrive???

Thanks

ErikAlbert
August 20th, 2006, 07:26 PM
1h38m is way too slow, even absurd.
Can't you give more details of the hardware ?

wilbertnl
August 20th, 2006, 07:47 PM
Are you using a USB 1.1 or USB 2.0 connection?

Peter2150
August 20th, 2006, 07:48 PM
It wasn't USB 1.1 by chance. That might account for it.

Pete

Antarctica
August 20th, 2006, 08:43 PM
Well, I know my PC is not of the last generation...

It's a AMD 1800+1.56 GHz and with 512 Meg of Ram.

Peter2150, yes I am still using USB 1.1.:-[

ESQ_ERRANT
August 20th, 2006, 09:30 PM
-{ Quote: "I just want to know if it is normal that it took 1h 38 min. to copy a snapshot of 5.40Gb to a external USB Harddrive???

Thanks" }-

As a possible point of reference, it takes FD, as it is installed on my machine, about 1.4 hours to copy a 14+ Gigabyte snapshot to my internal hard drive. This is roughly three times the size of your snapshot. As a matter of fact I just made a snapshot today.

My system is several years old, too. I have a Pentium 4 processor, 2.05 megahertz, and 512 megabytes of ram. This may or may not be within the generally acceptable range for FD. I don't know. But, for what it's worth, I give you these stats.

ErikAlbert
August 20th, 2006, 09:49 PM
-{ Quote: "I just want to know if it is normal that it took 1h 38 min. to copy a snapshot of 5.40Gb to a external USB Harddrive??? " }-
Now I understand why it's so slow. No further comments, because I don't want to hurt your feelings. :)

wilbertnl
August 20th, 2006, 10:33 PM
-{ Quote: "Peter2150, yes I am still using USB 1.1.:-[" }-
If you have USB 1.1, then it's faster to transfer huge data over wired lan. In case that is an option, of course.

Antarctica
August 21st, 2006, 04:25 AM
-{ Quote: "Now I understand why it's so slow. No further comments, because I don't want to hurt your feelings. :)" }-


Thanks to everyone for your comments:)

I am planning to get a new system at the end of the year or next year. So in the mean time I can live with this slow speed problem, I'm not exporting or importing snapshot every day.:P

q1aqza
August 21st, 2006, 07:23 AM
I'm no hardware expert but I think you can get USB2 PCI cards quite cheap. Might be a useful stop gap until the end of the year

Acadia
August 21st, 2006, 08:19 AM
Takes me 9-12 minutes to copy (totally create a new Snapshot) about 4.5-5.0 gig, but that is to another internal drive. :-\

Acadia

bigc73542
August 21st, 2006, 08:28 AM
If you can disconnect from the internet and then turn off your av that should speed up the snapshot creation considerably. I am making snapshots of 19gb on this machine and with av on it takes about fourty minutes and with av off it takes about twenty five minutes. This is a very fast computer but it even makes a difference on this one. It's worth a try.

Peter2150
August 21st, 2006, 08:37 AM
-{ Quote: "If you can disconnect from the internet and then turn off your av that should speed up the snapshot creation considerably. I am making snapshots of 19gb on this machine and with av on it takes about fourty minutes and with av off it takes about twenty five minutes. This is a very fast computer but it even makes a difference on this one. It's worth a try." }-

Good point. I always disable my AV when doing any copying with FDISR

ErikAlbert
August 21st, 2006, 11:31 AM
-{ Quote: "Thanks to everyone for your comments:)

I am planning to get a new system at the end of the year or next year. So in the mean time I can live with this slow speed problem, I'm not exporting or importing snapshot every day.:P" }-
You understood me very well. That was exactly what I wanted to say. ;D
But waiting as long as possible to buy a new computer is also good.
My new computer is already out-of-date, only the components are new.

FYI, according my Seagate External Harddisk Manual, the theoretical speeds are :
USB 1.1 = 12 Mbits/sec
USB 2.0 = 480 Mbits/sec
FireWire= 400 Mbits/sec

As you can see there is a huge difference between USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 and is probably the main reason why it lasted 1h38m on your computer.

Antarctica
August 21st, 2006, 04:11 PM
-{ Quote: "If you can disconnect from the internet and then turn off your av that should speed up the snapshot creation considerably. I am making snapshots of 19gb on this machine and with av on it takes about fourty minutes and with av off it takes about twenty five minutes. This is a very fast computer but it even makes a difference on this one. It's worth a try." }-

Thanks bigc73524 and all the others for your help and comment. I'll give it a try with disconnect the Internet and AV turn off.

I will let you know.:)

ErikAlbert
August 21st, 2006, 05:00 PM
-{ Quote: "Thanks bigc73524 and all the others for your help and comment. I'll give it a try with disconnect the Internet and AV turn off.

I will let you know.:)" }-
I do exactly the same thing as bigc, but there is a difference.
1. BigC disconnect the internet and turns off AV.
2. I boot to a snapshot that has no internet, no security softwares, no internet-related softwares, like email, browsers, etc.
In that special snapshot, I create most of my snapshots.

WWS
August 21st, 2006, 07:38 PM
It might be a good idea to make a note in the new snapshot description to remind you the AV is turned off!

Peter2150
August 23rd, 2006, 09:33 PM
Had an opportunity to do a timing. Times clearly depend on hardware. I created a new snapshot from an archive on a 2nd internal drive.

Snapshot size was 9.5Gb. Time was 7 minutes with transfer rates up to 24580 KB/sec

Antarctica
August 24th, 2006, 06:14 AM
-{ Quote: "Had an opportunity to do a timing. Times clearly depend on hardware. I created a new snapshot from an archive on a 2nd internal drive.

Snapshot size was 9.5Gb. Time was 7 minutes with transfer rates up to 24580 KB/sec" }-

My transfer rate was 1215 KB/sec.:-[ It's definitly time to change my system.8)
It should be done in the next two month, hopefully.

Peter2150
August 24th, 2006, 08:50 AM
-{ Quote: "My transfer rate was 1215 KB/sec.:-[ It's definitly time to change my system.8)
It should be done in the next two month, hopefully." }-

I'll time it to USB later. Difference between new box and old box is unreal. Old box wasn't a slouch either.

Peter2150
August 24th, 2006, 06:35 PM
-{ Quote: "I'll time it to USB later. Difference between new box and old box is unreal. Old box wasn't a slouch either." }-

Time to create and external snapshot on a USB 2.0 drive was 15:27 minutes. About twice the internal drive

ErikAlbert
August 24th, 2006, 07:04 PM
-{ Quote: "Time to create and external snapshot on a USB 2.0 drive was 15:27 minutes. About twice the internal drive" }-
Creating archived snapshots on an external harddisk takes longer, but refreshing them is a matter of seconds or a few minutes.

Frankly I'm not impressed by USB 2.0 at all, I thought it would work faster, but it doesn't bother me.

Antarctica
August 26th, 2006, 04:51 AM
-{ Quote: "If you can disconnect from the internet and then turn off your av that should speed up the snapshot creation considerably. I am making snapshots of 19gb on this machine and with av on it takes about fourty minutes and with av off it takes about twenty five minutes. This is a very fast computer but it even makes a difference on this one. It's worth a try." }-

O.K.I test it with my present system, disconnect Internet and turn off KIS and BoClean. It took 1h12 mn instead of 1h38 mn, so I would say about 20% speed increase.:P

ErikAlbert
August 26th, 2006, 08:37 AM
-{ Quote: "O.K.I test it with my present system, disconnect Internet and turn off KIS and BoClean. It took 1h12 mn instead of 1h38 mn, so I would say about 20% speed increase.:P" }-
Well, 26 minutes less is quite an improvement considering the circumstances. Computers are really fast. Aren't they ? ::) ;D

Antarctica
August 26th, 2006, 02:37 PM
-{ Quote: "Well, 26 minutes less is quite an improvement considering the circumstances. Computers are really fast. Aren't they ? ::) ;D" }-

Hé ErikAlbert, 26 minutes gives me enough time to drink a beer.:P ;D