USD15.00 discount on BOClean until 25 Aug 2006

[Chubb]

USD15.00 discount on BOClean until 25 Aug 2006

Information from Outpost forum

http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18098

-{ Quote: "Nancy McAleavey and Company are offering a very special deal!
Until August 25th, there's a $15.00 discount on BOClean!" }-

[Durad]

Is it for 1 year?

[Chubb]

-{ Quote: "Is it for 1 year?" }-

No, for current version, which is at 4.X.

http://www.nsclean.com/boeula.html

BOCLEAN UPGRADE/MAINTENANCE CONTRACT AND "BUG" POLICY:

-{ Quote: "It is Privacy Software Corporation's policy to provide bug fixes for our products at no charge to our customers by return email or the Extended Download Service from Digital River should a problem occur due to mistakes or omissions in our code that causes problems....Keep your malware data file (BOCLEAN.XVU) current by using BOClean's automatic downloading or manually download updates daily....

Privacy Software Corporation will provide upgrades deemed critical to your continued protection at no charge upon the user's request to upgrade@nsclean.com...

Value based, or feature based version releases will be offered in the future at half the regular price to our customers...
" }-

That means, 5.X will probably require an upgrade fee at half the current full price.

[TNT]

That's a very good deal. All the doubts I had about BOClean's efficiency were gone when I tried it. No signature or heuristics based anti-malware application is perfect, but you just can't get a better real-time anti-trojan application than BOClean in my opinion.

[the Tester]

Wow!
That is a good deal!

[bellgamin]

BOClean's ordering stuff is unclear to me. I clicked on their $15 discount offer & got taken to an order page that is priced in EuroDollars. No matter where I clicked it went to the Eurodollar page.

Their website is ambiguous as to how to contact their webmaster to get this matter clarified.

If I can purchase using US dollars, I'll consider it -- otherwise, no thanks.

[Don Pelotas]

-{ Quote: "BOClean's ordering stuff is unclear to me. I clicked on their $15 discount offer & got taken to an order page that is priced in EuroDollars. No matter where I clicked it went to the Eurodollar page. Moreover, buying at Eurodollars and converting did NOT amount to a $15 discount. Is this an error or what, I wonder?

Their website is ambiguous as to how to contact their webmaster to get this matter clarified.

If I can purchase using US dollars, I'll consider it -- otherwise, no thanks." }-
If you look a little harder you will notice the "Change currency" option.

Btw, There is no such thing as a Eurodollar, it's simply Euro.:)

[bellgamin]

Duhhh... I didn't notice the *change currency* thingee. I suppose I got confused when I clicked on an offer expressed in English & got taken to an order page expressed in Euro whatevers.

By the way -- I have several thousand Eurodollars stashed away in a Swish bank. Are you saying that they are worthless?:o {Only keeding señor. Thanks for the help}

[mercurie]

Fellow Creatures,
Those who have not ever purchased BoClean due to the price. Here is your chance. What a bargin. Take it before it expires.

Hope those of us who are loyal users will have opportunity like this when the Major revision comes out. I guess that would be Ver. 5 :thumb: :thumb:

Edit: This is also my understanding too, so I guess I have no worrys. "That means, 5.X will probably require an upgrade fee at half the current full price." ;D

[LokiLoki]

-{ Quote: "Fellow Creatures,
Those who have not ever purchased BoClean due to the price. Here is your chance. What a bargin. Take it before it expires.

Hope those of us who are loyal users will have opportunity like this when the Major revision comes out. I guess that would be Ver. 5 :thumb: :thumb:

Edit: This is also my understanding too, so I guess I have no worrys. "That means, 5.X will probably require an upgrade fee at half the current full price." ;D" }-

That's what I did. Got mine yesterday. :)
Hope version 5 is not too soon. :P

[Caratacus]

AAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! I bought it at the old price 3 days ago!!!
:'(
:dry:
Still, it's great value even at that.
:-*
:D

[mercurie]

-{ Quote: "That's what I did. Got mine yesterday. :)
Hope version 5 is not too soon. :P" }-Maybe someone knows more and can correct me if I am wrong, but I think recent purchasers of current version will be able to migrate for free. :-\

[sukarof]

Is just me being blind but I cant find any link to any download link? Or is it that they dont offer "try before you buy"?

[Chubb]

-{ Quote: "Is just me being blind but I cant find any link to any download link? Or is it that they dont offer "try before you buy"?" }-

Yes, they DO NOT offer a "try before you buy" option, but they offer a 30 day money-back guarantee

-{ Quote: "BOClean comes with a 30 day money-back guarantee for individual licensees, if you're not happy with how BOClean works, we'll give you your money back. No questions, no hassles...." }-

Last paragraph on http://www.nsclean.com/boclean.html

[sukarof]

Ah..ok..thanks for the info.

[LokiLoki]

-{ Quote: "Maybe someone knows more and can correct me if I am wrong, but I think recent purchasers of current version will be able to migrate for free. :-\" }-

The upgrade cost is sorta like SSM. 4.xx all free upgrades and Version 5 will be half priced.
Saw it under the EULA.

But of course I hope it's free. :p

Edit: Ah Chubb has mentioned it on post 3. Sorry for repeating.

[Infinity]

With such a piece of software, everybody would be confident enough to go this way! it is worth every penny money can buy!!

one of the best memory scanners on the market, no footprint (7mb - 40mb VM=not much at all) and instant detection ... and removal offcourse :)

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "one of the best memory scanners on the market, no footprint (7mb - 40mb VM=not much at all) and instant detection ... and removal offcourse :)" }-I am sorely tempted to buy BOClean, & only have a few more days to decide. My quandry...

*I have the paid version of A-squared, which has a real-time monitor (RTM).

*I wouldn't want to run 2 antitrojan RTMs, so I would (a) run BOClean, and (b)shut down the RTM for A-squared, & use it on-demand only. Seems a waste.

*A-squared uses MUCH memory (see below) but is VERY low user of CPU. (See screenshot below)

*From Infinity's post (quoted above) I see lower memory usage for BOclean, in comparison with A-squared. BUT I have 1gig of Ram so perhaps the more significant issue is: How much CPU does BOClean generally use?

I seek comments by any & all concerning what you would do in my position?

[TNT]

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/3394/immaginett4.gif

[bellgamin]

Thanks TNT -- but I don't see any CPU or VM info in that screenshot.

[Don Pelotas]

TNT's experience is like my own, around 10mb memory and the CPU usage (the spikes every 10 sec) would go up/down from 1.56% to 5-8% if memory serves me correctly, but you don't notice it in daily use, i have both Ewido & BOClean and Ewido has much more of an impact, even if i can't call it heavy.

[TNT]

-{ Quote: "TNT's experience is like my own, around 10mb memory and the CPU usage (the spikes every 10 sec) would go up/down from 1.56% to 5-8% if memory serves me correctly, but you don't notice it in daily use, i have both Ewido & BOClean and Ewido has much more of an impact, even if i can't call it heavy." }-Well, Ewido is pretty heavy. :P Still good, though.

bellgamin, I didn't post the screenshots with Task Manager 'cause the columns headings are in Italian. CPU says "00" and goes around 11 occasionally (when it does some "continous" checks) and VM 9144 KB.

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "bellgamin, I didn't post the screenshots with Task Manager 'cause the columns headings are in Italian. CPU says "00" and goes around 11 occasionally (when it does some "continous" checks) and VM 9144 KB." }-Based upon Don P's post, & yours, it sounds like BOClean is polling. Is it?

[Infinity]

-{ Quote: "I am sorely tempted to buy BOClean, & only have a few more days to decide. My quandry...

*I have the paid version of A-squared, which has a real-time monitor (RTM).

*I wouldn't want to run 2 antitrojan RTMs, so I would (a) run BOClean, and (b)shut down the RTM for A-squared, & use it on-demand only. Seems a waste.

*A-squared uses MUCH memory (see below) but is VERY low user of CPU. (See screenshot below)

*From Infinity's post (quoted above) I see lower memory usage for BOclean, in comparison with A-squared. BUT I have 1gig of Ram so perhaps the more significant issue is: How much CPU does BOClean generally use?

I seek comments by any & all concerning what you would do in my position?" }-

Hi Belgamin, at the moment I am using in realtime (and it does interact perfectly with other realtime AT/AS/AV/FW/..) Boclean for it's low resource, perfect memoryscanner, good support (and now nice fee - I wouldn't know any reason why not to drop into this .. it has been Boclean for numerous of times to kill trojans from whatever sites .. :dry: ) ..
I am using besides Boclean .. A2 for it's IDS which can detect on some nice idea the outbreak of trojans/spyware if Boclean wasn't able to catch it ... this hasn't happend before .. with A2 solely on my system, it has catched things (spyware and cookies ;D ) from warez sources ...
Then I have Ewido Plus ... for on demand .. it is too heavy for everyday use with all the HIPS I'm running, another kernel program wouldn't just fit in.

running A2 and Boclean, In my case, the way I see it, they just complement .. they do not interphere!

it is a perfect combo imho because of the 'pitbull' activity of the IDS (which is not a memory scanner!!!) and to be honest = Boclean has a better memory scannner then A2 .. so they do complement ..

Best wishes,

Inf

[muf]

-{ Quote: "Based upon Don P's post, & yours, it sounds like BOClean is polling. Is it?" }-


If i remember correctly, it scans the critical system files every 10 secs but is scanning the memory continuously. I'm sure someone will confirm/amend accordingly.

muf

[InfinityAz]

I'm tempted to buy this but am wondering if I really need it. I'm generally practice safe hex and when I need to take chances I'll run sandboxie and/or altiris software virtualization.

Current setup:

Real-time: NAT router, Look 'n' Stop, Avira AntiVir, hostsman w/ mvps, spywareblaster (although actually not real-time), SSM (paid)

On-demand: SAS, Bitdefender, Ewido, a-squared, trend-micro AV/AS, etc.

So, what do you think, should I spend the money?

Also, is Boclean easy to terminate when I need to (i.e., when I run some online games, I disable as much as possible (btw - never had any problems doing so))?

TIA for the advice

[Don Pelotas]

-{ Quote: "I'm tempted to buy this but am wondering if I really need it. I'm generally practice safe hex and when I need to take chances I'll run sandboxie and/or altiris software virtualization.

Current setup:

Real-time: NAT router, Look 'n' Stop, Avira AntiVir, hostsman w/ mvps, spywareblaster (although actually not real-time), SSM (paid)

On-demand: SAS, Bitdefender, Ewido, a-squared, trend-micro AV/AS, etc.

So, what do you think, should I spend the money?

Also, is Boclean easy to terminate when I need to (i.e., when I run some online games, I disable as much as possible (btw - never had any problems doing so))?

TIA for the advice" }-
No, i wouldn't think you need it with your setup and with your safehex routine to be honest

[JRCATES]

I still think that $15 off is a very good deal for BOClean, considering it's history, reputation and reported effectiveness. While I plan to use ewido for an on-demand anti-malware scanner once it's trial is up in a few days, for resident AT & malware type protection, at this price I believe I'm gonna have to give this one a try.....

[hojtsy]

-{ Quote: "If i remember correctly, it scans the critical system files every 10 secs but is scanning the memory continuously. I'm sure someone will confirm/amend accordingly.
muf" }-
AFAIK, files are not periodically scanned by BOClean. Memory is scanned every ten seconds. So, yes it is polling, and proud of it. Regarding CPU resources it seems inadequate to specify the density and height of spikes withouth telling exactly how long they are. So It would be more correct to compare the CPU time measured over a longer, say 10 minutes period, for all contenders measured with the same monitor tool. I am planning to buy BoClean so I can try to measure that one soon.

[JRCATES]

RE: how BOClean operates.....I asked, and according to Nancy, BOClean polls (to check for changes in inactive memory) and will go into operation when active memory state changes (like when something executes). Regarding the CPU spikes, her response was basically that since it's software, and software needs CPU cycles sometimes to run, occasionally there will be "spikes". Apparently, this isn't a problem for most BOClean users, though. She also mentioned that neither BOClean nor these "spikes" interfere in any significant way with other software, and noted email they've received from online gamers that like BOClean "because it doesn't interfere or slow down play, yet gives them protection from malware" - fully knowing that gaming is a major infection vector. She also believes that BOClean's approach gives a user the best chance to catch many zeroday exploits (which she said are typically repacked malware that can elude typical AV detection vectors).

Anyway, I found her response pretty interesting and informative, and just thought I'd share (hope you don't mind, Nancy).....

[mercurie]

JRCates,
Over the years I have found BOClean to be a good unintrusive security product, with superior customer service. I don't do on line games and appreciate your post. They post updates more then any other security product I have ever used. ;)

[Infinity]

-{ Quote: "JRCates,
Over the years I have found BOClean to be a good unintrusive security product, with superior customer service. I don't do on line games and appreciate your post. They post updates more then any other security product I have ever used. ;)" }-


I am using Boclean for 2 years now, the updates are more then ever before ... their special way of counting malware + the updates the last 6 months ... it is reassuring for mei...) .. still it is/remains the product we all know ...

However, I believe it is in need of some type of heuristics and a little more pro-active security & an on access scanner (sleeping trojans, ....) atm it is the best product money cam buy > at 15 $ less then normal > probably they are already working on the first beta/alpha .. at least that is the experience I have when giving us this opportunity :) ...

like another poster noted , as version upgrade fees are the only fees .. hopefully this is covered when this new version gets released. but then again, once released. not a lot of fixes where needed to fix the rest :) for a proper build ... 4.20 > 4.21 (stable...)

best wishes.

[G1111]

Picked it up last night before the discount ended. I am running this upfront with KAV and changed UnHackMe to a ondemand scanner. Couple of questions. Is there a key that BOClean sends. It is up and running after I went through the payment and download (I also bought the 2-year download). Just wondering if there is a registration process with NSClean.

ProcX only shows boc421.exe running resident. Task Manager does show bocore.exe also running. I assume both are running even though ProcX only shows one.

[JRCATES]

-{ Quote: "Picked it up last night before the discount ended." }-

Hey G111,

The title of this thread probably should have read THROUGH Aug 25....because it actually ends at midnight TONIGHT (Friday night - 12:00 AM Saturday morning)....so it's still currently in effect. For those interested in taking advantage of it, I just wanted to let them know (this is per info I received from Nancy when I inquired about it as well).

-{ Quote: "Is there a key that BOClean sends. It is up and running after I went through the payment and download (I also bought the 2-year download). Just wondering if there is a registration process with NSClean." }-

I'm interested in knowing this as well.....because during purchase, I received the email notification from Digital River and printed a copy of my receipt, and then installed....but don't remember any "key" or prompt to register, etc.

-{ Quote: "
ProcX only shows boc421.exe running resident. Task Manager does show bocore.exe also running. I assume both are running even though ProcX only shows one." }-

WinPatrol and Task Manager show BOC421.EXE and BOCore.exe both running as active processes for me here.....

[john2g]

-{ Quote: " Just wondering if there is a registration process with NSClean. ." }-

No, there isn't. However, it is useful to sign up for the email update notifications.

[G1111]

Thanks for the responses. I signed up for the E-Mail notifications.

[JRCATES]

-{ Quote: "Thanks for the responses. I signed up for the E-Mail notifications." }-

I believe this was an option during the purchase or installation of BOClean, and not something to be done AFTERWARD, right?

I'm fairly certain that I selected that option, but how would one go about finding out for sure that they are registered for email notifications?

[G1111]

-{ Quote: "I believe this was an option during the purchase or installation of BOClean, and not something to be done AFTERWARD, right?

I'm fairly certain that I selected that option, but how would one go about finding out for sure that they are registered for email notifications?" }-

I believe it was one of the boxes I checked when I purchased it. Received a confirmation message from digitalriver, but nothing from PSC thus far. I didn't see anything on their website.

[Chubb]

-{ Quote: "I believe it was one of the boxes I checked when I purchased it. Received a confirmation message from digitalriver, but nothing from PSC thus far. I didn't see anything on their website." }-

-{ Quote: "I believe this was an option during the purchase or installation of BOClean, and not something to be done AFTERWARD, right?

I'm fairly certain that I selected that option, but how would one go about finding out for sure that they are registered for email notifications?" }-

The boxes are checked by default. Did you uncheck them by mistake?

I receive daily notifications of newly added detections and signatures since I purchased it...

If you want to receive e-mail notifications, you can take a look here:

http://www.nsclean.com/supboc.html (4th paragraph)

-{ Quote: "If you have sent us an email to register for notice of updates, you have already received an email from us offering you the free upgrade. If you aren't already on our "notify" list and wish to be notified of future BOClean upgrades, please use the following email link:
register@nsclean.com.
Don't write anything in the body area of your message...." }-

When you click on the e-mail link on the web page described above, "REGISTER BOCLEAN" will be automatically inserted for you in the subject line. After you have sent in the mail, Kevin McAleavey will send you an e-mail to confirm whether you also want to be in the list of daily notification update to the BOClean database. ;)

[JRCATES]

Hi Chubb,

Thanks for the input. Yep, I'm positive I left the "informed via email" box ticked (but did not select the second option), unless it somehow got "unticked" without my kowledge (doubtful). Since I just purchased last night, maybe it takes 24-48 hours to be added to the database for email alerts, info and notifications. I'll just wait until the first part of next week, and if I haven't received any notifications for the latest update info (if there are any over the weekend), then I'll use the link you provided to ensure that I do in the future.

Thanks again :thumb:

[InfinityAz]

Other than trojans, how effective is BoClean against other types of malware?

[hojtsy]

-{ Quote: "How much CPU does BOClean generally use?" }-
I measured with Iasrn Taskinfo. The long time average CPU usage on my system is 0,4%.

[muf]

-{ Quote: "Other than trojans, how effective is BoClean against other types of malware?" }-

Not only is it first class at handling trojans but it also takes care of most Rootkits and is very good at snuffing out Spyware. Especially the difficult stuff. But please remember that it's primary role is to sit 'behind' your AV. It lets your AV sniff any files first, then if your AV lets the file go and it executes to memory if it unpacks some malware then BOClean will 'nail it'. That's it's job, 2nd line of defence in case your AV fails you.

muf

[nick s]

Just noticed a more permanent price reduction for BOClean in the news section here (http://www.nsclean.com/index.html):

"26Aug2006 New affordable pricing! We've lowered our prices in order to make our software more affordable."

Nick

[Chubb]

-{ Quote: "Just noticed a more permanent price reduction for BOClean in the news section here (http://www.nsclean.com/index.html):

"26Aug2006 New affordable pricing! We've lowered our prices in order to make our software more affordable."

Nick" }-

The price of BOClean is now in line with Ewido, with A-Squared still selling at USD39.95.

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "The price of BOClean is now in line with Ewido, with A-Squared still selling at USD39.95." }-In my experience, A-squared has always offered a substantial discount.

[trjam]

Boclean is like toilet paper, something you just cant live without. It is ready, even in an emergency.::) Best money I ever spent.

[nicM]

-{ Quote: "Boclean is like toilet paper, something you just cant live without. " }-

Lol ;D , I'm sure NSclean will appreciate the comparison ;D .

About the price comparison with Ewido, I consider BOClean is more cheap, since the licence do not need yearly-renewal (though upgrades can lead to renewal fee), and allow installation on several computers :thumb: . Excellent program. And extremely light when running.

nicM

[mercurie]

-{ Quote: "Boclean is like toilet paper, something you just cant live without. It is ready, even in an emergency.::) Best money I ever spent." }-LOL ;D It has kept me safe for years and for pennies a month.


T.P. costs far more. ;D ;D

[JimIT]

BoClean is instantly a bargain when it nails the first bad guy that blows by your av.

Speaking from experience. ;)