Neoava Guard HIPS update

[CloneRanger]

New look website with promising and updated info on this unique program

-{ Quote: "Tuesday, August 01, 2006

debugging

as several incompatibility and bugs reported while using NG along with some other firewalls, anti-viruses, etc... . I have decided to run them on my computer and test them throughly, this is going to be the last step in NG beta 2 development.

I'll report bugs.

Neoava Guard is a Host-based Intrusion Prevention Systems (HIPS) software, which helps you protect your computer against malicious softwares. Neoava Guard allows you to completely control any suspicious action in your computer. By the way, Neoava has some innovative features to let you experience best protect and less wrong alerts." }-

http://neoava.blogspot.com/

[Tommy]

Thanks fvor the news, i am using v1 Beta since quiet a time. Looking forward to the new Beta.

[Rasheed187]

Yup can´t wait for the new release, together with SSM this tool will (probably) form my main defense. I really can´t believe that one guy can create such an awesome tool, reminds me of Sandboxie and DefenseWall which are "one guy projects" also. :)

[Tommy]

-{ Quote: "Yup can´t wait for the new release, together with SSM this tool will (probably) form my main defense." }-
Two HIPS? Hmmm...

[Rasheed187]

Believe it or not but they actually run fine together, there don´t seem to be any conflicts. Of course I know you should always test these HIPS tools before installing them, because they might screw up your system. ;)

[wings]

-{ Quote: "Believe it or not but they actually run fine together, there don´t seem to be any conflicts." }-

Dude, that's not the point Tommy tries to make. What Tommy is trying to say is: why use two HIPS?

[sukarof]

-{ Quote: "Dude, that's not the point Tommy tries to make. What Tommy is trying to say is: why use two HIPS?" }-

I know this isnt directed to me, but I thought I might add my view on the matter anyway.
I have had two HIPS (Tiny Personal Firewall and Ghost Security Suite) for a while because I could not decide which one to choose, and it was also for comparing these two to see if the other was better than the other (for my needs) I thought both of them are really good programs, but after a while it felt just silly to handle two popups for everything :) so I had to choose.
GSS is my choice because it did almost everything that TPF did and more (and much easier to handle). And TPF is abandonware. Now after I found a new firewall that I really like and fits my needs like a hand in a glove I decided to drop TPF into oblivion.

As for the topic; thanks for the info on the new(?) HIPS. It never hurts to keep eyes open for newcomers in this field. Will look into it. Cheers.

[Tommy]

Correct me when i am wrong, but Tiny FW is not a true HIPS but a FW, or does it watch Low level access, internal com acess, Hooks, registry acess, etc? Have to say i never used Tiny.

[Peter2150]

-{ Quote: "Two HIPS? Hmmm..." }-

Why Not. Even assuming the software is perfect, which none ever is, there is still the human error issue. On several occasions, I've clicked allow on something, and then wanted to think about it. Can be nice to have a second chance. Plus they all have unique strenghts and weakness's. So if your machine can handle them, why not.

[WSFuser]

-{ Quote: "Correct me when i am wrong, but Tiny FW is not a true HIPS but a FW, or does it watch Low level access, internal com acess, Hooks, registry acess, etc? Have to say i never used Tiny." }-
nope u are correct. tiny is a firewall. also gss would not be a (complete) replacement for tiny cause u would still need control of inbound packets. but i guess thats what ghostwall is for.

[Kenjin]

-{ Quote: "-{ Quote: "Correct me when i am wrong, but Tiny FW is not a true HIPS but a FW, or does it watch Low level access, internal com acess, Hooks, registry acess, etc? Have to say i never used Tiny." }-
nope u are correct. tiny is a firewall. also gss would not be a (complete) replacement for tiny cause u would still need control of inbound packets. but i guess thats what ghostwall is for." }-You are both wrong. Tiny = FW + application sandbox. A sandbox is one of the many flavours of HIPS.

[AJohn]

http://www.tinysoftware.com/home/tiny2?s=3318482153581063119A1&&pg=content05&an=tf6_winsec_ovw&cat=cat_tf6

[Rasheed187]

-{ Quote: "Dude, that's not the point Tommy tries to make. What Tommy is trying to say is: why use two HIPS?" }-

I use it as a "backup HIPS" and besides Neoava covers certain things that SSM does not. ;)

[aigle]

I think a time will come when I might see people using at a time two AVs( have been discussed so often), two HIPs, two AS, and may be two firewall( why not if in future there are firewalls that don,t conflict).No offence for anyone but two HIPS of very similar type in my opinion are not appealing.
None of software is 100%, it is true but I can sure guess that even Two or three HIPS can,t be 100%.

[Rasheed187]

Looks like very exciting stuff is coming up according to the blog, too bad that the new version will be released in March, but I´m sure it will be cool. ;)

-{ Quote: "This time I promise the new version can make it as the best HIPS available on net, not only among the free ones but also others.

I will just keep it free, not to help people protect their computers (which will be done anyways) but to show how powerful Neoava Guard is and how creative I am in programming.

Just wait and see, cuz u aint seen nothin yet!" }-

Gotta love this guy! He´s doesn´t care about our computer security and has a whole lot of confidence. ;D

http://neoava.blogspot.com/

[EASTER.2010]

-{ Quote: "Dude, that's not the point Tommy tries to make. What Tommy is trying to say is: why use two HIPS? " }-

Why not run 3 HIPS like i am. Since installing the newest Comodo firewall, that also doubles in duty by having an application firewall to boot. So i guess that makes 3, System Safety Monitor, Cyberhawk, and Comodo FPro.

So far they all run fine without issue. Let those m'wares/viruses try and climb thru all that running together. Sure doesn't slow anything down so far as performance or opening/running normal apps.


-{ Quote: "Gotta love this guy! He´s doesn´t care about our computer security and has a whole lot of confidence. " }-



-{ Quote: "I will just keep it free, not to help people protect their computers (which will be done anyways) but to show how powerful Neoava Guard is and how creative I am in programming.

Just wait and see, cuz u aint seen nothin yet!" }-

[yankinNcrankin]

For some reason my sytem never played well with neoava maybe its my intel hyperthread cpu, dont know always got BSODs' and thats even with a clean reformated install of XPproSP2.

Currently got whats in my signature on a clean install of XPproSP2 and running great so far no conflicts. :) If my set up ever flags something out of the ordinary clean install of C: 45 seconds and I'm back in action.

[WSFuser]

im not a big fan of classical HIPS, but ill be keeping my eye on this one. the first beta was rather interesting and the third beta looks promising.

[Tommy]

News, Friday, January 19, 2007 von Neoava Guard Blog

http://neoava.blogspot.com/2007/01/news.html
-{ Quote: "Neoava.com is up and running, everything is OK!

The news is that the new version of Neoava Guard will have some amazingly innovative stuff which make the this HIPS unique in ease of use among other HIPS.

Against the last two beta's which focused on just protecting against more attack ways, this time features added to comfort beginner users, and also provide a highly flexible configuration for advanced users.

In previous versions most users can't find a lot of configs etc.., but in next version everything can be configured from several places, the new interface allow users to change options/rules by few clicks." }-
Seams promissing :thumb:

[EASTER.2010]

Keep an extra eye out for these updated HIPS. Since these developers have grown in numbers so is their experience and how much better they can improve upon they're previous works/releases.

Something tells me from the looks of things lately that this year of 2007 is going to offer much more advanced innovations in these programs then before and they are making a serious run at becoming the King's of PC protection out there.

It's really comforting on our end to see these HIPS developers finally competing for top attention by sharpening up their apps with quickness. finesse, and dependability without issue.

Rock N' Roll Security World..................Paul Wilder's Forums #1 On The Planet & Universe :thumb:

[Rasheed187]

-{ Quote: "For some reason my sytem never played well with neoava maybe its my intel hyperthread cpu" }-
@ yankinNcrankin

Very strange, is it perhaps a conflict with another tool? On my system it has always run perfectly stable.

-{ Quote: "im not a big fan of classical HIPS, but ill be keeping my eye on this one. the first beta was rather interesting and the third beta looks promising." }-

@ WSFuser

Why are you no fan? Too many alerts I guess? The thing is, I think that you only get to see a lot of alerts when "process execution monitoring" is enabled (during an install), of course this exact same feature might save your ass against zero day "drive by" attacks.

Also, a registry monitor (like the one in SSM or KAV) can popup a lot of alerts. But that´s why Neoava Guard is so cool, you can configure it in a way that it will only alert you about certain things. Seriously, normally I do not get to see that many alerts, of course you have to make rules first.

[WSFuser]

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@ WSFuser

Why are you no fan? Too many alerts I guess?" }-
partially, but simply i cannot always tell good files from bad. its easier to have KAV do that for me.

[Tommy]

A preview of the new GUI:

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7187/ngbetax002xh1.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ngbetax002xh1.jpg)

more images soon.

[aigle]

When new version will come?

[kr4ey]

-{ Quote: "When new version will come?" }-

Mid March. READ: http://neoava.blogspot.com/

[Rasheed187]

So did anyone send him any suggestions about the GUI? I think it´s a bad sign that´s it´s not resizable. To be honest I´m not sure why he needed to completely redesign the GUI, the old one was OK, it just needed some more polishing. But there are also some new features coming up, so maybe a new GUI was needed anyway. I sure hope that the ability to remove useless "rules" has been added, this was the biggest "flaw" in the program. ;)

[Tommy]

Here a new snapshot of the GUI, looks very promissing but also similiar to SSM.
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/496/logpageoptyx1.th.jpg (http://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?image=logpageoptyx1.jpg)

[korb]

it already mid march,can't wait to test it.i guess it will not be ready untill apr. ::)

[aigle]

-{ Quote: "it already mid march,can't wait to test it." }-
Any news?

[Tommy]

First public Beta/Realease (?) is planned for May as a lot of working is to do regarding the GUI.

[aigle]

I suspect it to be more late. Current GUI is show stopper for me.

[Tommy]

Neova Guard 1 Beta 3 is ready for testing. More Info and download here. (http://www.smokey-services.eu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6157)

[Rasheed187]

My first impression isn´t really a good one, I really wonder why the developer has put so much time into changing the GUI, it does look a bit better, but it´s not real handy. First of all you can´t even resize it (at least not vertically) and secondly, at the moment I´m not real happy about the new style of configuration, ("Rules" are divided into sections) but I guess I have to get used to it.

Also, it seems to conflict on my VM with SSM and Sandboxie. If these things can be fixed I might consider to install it as a second HIPS on my machine, because it does have some features that SSM doesn´t have. But I had expected to see more new features and a better GUI, especially if you think about the time the developer has spent to develop this version. But I still think it´s an impressive tool, don´t get me wrong, I just hope that it will become a lot better.