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mrhero
July 23rd, 2006, 06:39 PM
A lot of people at wilders doing beta tests, I want to learn what are you using for that pupose?

WSFuser
July 23rd, 2006, 07:11 PM
although i do have true image, i dont necessarily use it for beta testing.

i only have one computer with each of my parents, so if theres a beta i want to try i will install it.

if i dont like it, i will simply uninstall it. if it does break windows and i cant uninstall it, then and only then will i resort to using true image.

Peter2150
July 23rd, 2006, 07:31 PM
I rely on First Defense-ISR. So far it has reliably bailed me out of trashed system. As a fall back I rely on IFD/IFW

Pete

divedog
July 23rd, 2006, 07:39 PM
First Defense

beetlejuice69
July 23rd, 2006, 07:40 PM
FDISR here too.

TonyW
July 23rd, 2006, 07:53 PM
FD-ISR here too.

ErikAlbert
July 23rd, 2006, 07:55 PM
I'm not really a beta-tester, but my assumption is that any new software can break my system and it happened in the past.
So I always have an image backup file ready when I start playing with new softwares.
Like Peter, I use FirstDefense-ISR for immediate system recovery and when that doesn't help, I use Acronis True Image like pvsurfer to recover my complete system. In most cases a simple reboot is enough to save my system.

It makes you feel invincible, but that is just a psychological problem, one of the side-effects of using FDISR & ATI together. ;)

TonyW
July 23rd, 2006, 08:01 PM
The idea behind using something like FD-ISR to test beta software is that one snapshot can be set up purely for that purpose. I have one such snapshot for testing various builds of KIS. This isn't just for recovery purposes.

Peter2150
July 23rd, 2006, 09:31 PM
-{ Quote: "The idea behind using something like FD-ISR to test beta software is that one snapshot can be set up purely for that purpose. I have one such snapshot for testing various builds of KIS. This isn't just for recovery purposes." }-

Also quite true, but the disaster recovery seems to get your attention more.

furballi
July 23rd, 2006, 09:36 PM
My OS primary active C partition is only 900MB. All other programs/data/personal folders and pagefile reside in another extended logical partition. I image the active C partition PRIOR to loading the BETA application. When done with the evaluation, I simply restore the image file of the active C partition.

It takes about 40 seconds to image or restore this C partition using Bootit NG. With this setup, I can test the compatibility of the BETA application with all other proggies on my PC.

herbalist
July 24th, 2006, 01:10 AM
For me, the correct answer to the poll question would be a combination of several of the choices, so I chose other. I only have one PC, but I have several hard drives with operating systems and varying amounts of software on them. By switching to different primary master drives, my single PC is both my primary unit and test rig. I also use Acronis to copy the different setups onto the drives as I need them. These are stored on either my external hard drive or on CDRWs, depending on what I'm doing. When I'm testing security apps/configurations, the external drive is disconnected from the PC. It's not the arrangement I'd like to use but it's the best I can do with the hardware I have. A bit inconvenient, but it gets the job done.
Rick

the Tester
July 24th, 2006, 02:06 AM
I use our primary computer with DriveImageXML,although I haven't tried a restore yet.
I'm fairly selective in beta programs that I test.I seldom take a really new beta.I wait until reviews or feedback are available,unless it's a developer that I trust from previous experience.

I may be using my wife's old computer for beta testing in the future.Just have to pick it up.;)

Mrkvonic
July 24th, 2006, 02:22 AM
Hello,
Well I use more than a single option:
VMware and dedicated beta machine, primarily.
ShadowSurfer, sometimes.
Mrk

Meriadoc
July 24th, 2006, 04:04 AM
More than one.

At home : VMWorkstation, a test machine, Firstdefence ISR, Imaging.

Working : VM Subscription, a test machine, Imaging.

Brian N
July 24th, 2006, 06:08 AM
FD-ISR here ;D
Argh clicked the wrong voting button.. So scratch one from 'other' and put it up in FD-ISR ;)

Eldar
July 24th, 2006, 07:21 AM
Depends on what I'm testing.
If I'm testing an antivirus, firewall or any other security app, I would use FD-ISR. 8)

If I'm installing a new alpha/beta app (other then those mentioned above), I just install it on my drive. :)
Of course always having an image ready, just in case.

Do have to reinstall Windows anyway soon during my vacation. ;D

Acadia
July 24th, 2006, 11:35 AM
FirstDefense-ISR! 8)

Acadia

Notok
July 24th, 2006, 02:17 PM
I use a separate machine with drive imaging software. For more finished software (that I'm confident is relatively stable) I will install it on my everyday machine, which still has disk image and standard data backups.

phasechange
July 24th, 2006, 07:06 PM
Acronis True Image... I have incremental backups which are done at shutdown and stored on a dedicated ASZ drive. I also have external images as a Plan B :)

Fairy

nicM
July 24th, 2006, 07:46 PM
I'm very satisfied with Rollback Rx Pro, which is MISSING in this poll ! :o and has never let me down so far. Solid as rock for me ;D .

nicM

mrhero
July 24th, 2006, 07:59 PM
-{ Quote: "I'm very satisfied with Rollback Rx Pro, which is MISSING in this poll ! :o and has never let me down so far. Solid as rock for me ;D .

nicM" }-

You can select "Sandbox/Snapshot Software" .

tansu
July 24th, 2006, 08:44 PM
I use vmware for testing purposes, not only for beta softwares, but all softwares new to me..

wilbertnl
July 24th, 2006, 09:39 PM
FirstDefense-ISR, FirstDefense-ISR, FirstDefense-ISR, FirstDefense-ISR, FirstDefense-ISR...

Heco
July 26th, 2006, 10:14 AM
RestoreIT, RestoreIT, RestoreIT, RestoreIT, RestoreIT, RestoreIT... LOL
Cheers,
Hervé

HJam72
August 1st, 2006, 02:57 PM
The only thing beta on my PC is Windows XP and everytime I uninstall it my freaking computer stops running! >:(

crofttk
August 2nd, 2006, 12:52 AM
I start usually with an IFW or IFD image, then use FD-ISR to copy my working primary snapshot into a new snapshot for installing and running the BETA application. If I have time, like in the BETA I'm currently in, I'll also set up a virgin WinXP snapshot with nothing but WinXP and FD-ISR to see if any problems I have with the BETA program in the "working" snapshot are duplicated in the virgin snapshot.

Dina
August 7th, 2006, 01:17 PM
I have acronis true image and shadowuser. Id like to try FDISR but my single disk is in fat32. Old slow computer here :-[ Still saving for that new one.

Would it be alright to convert my 40Gig hd to ntfs? only got 1ghz cpu and 384RAM I read somewhere nfts might slow things down.

furballi
August 7th, 2006, 02:14 PM
NTFS is a little slower than FAT32. Use BING to image your data BEFORE the conversion to NTFS. Always plan for the worst case scenario.

JuniorSZ
August 8th, 2006, 01:39 AM
'Another PC dedicated to beta test'

I test + play for a few weeks .. If stable and usefull [software] get's moved to 'main pc's'

progress
May 25th, 2009, 03:27 PM
Another PC dedicated to beta tests, mostly for browser tests :)

AKAJohnDoe
May 25th, 2009, 03:34 PM
I consider all software to be beta. Therefore, I rely upon well-tested backup and restore processes (multiple processes, as all software is beta).

Osaban
May 25th, 2009, 08:56 PM
I very rarely beta test anything, except lately Windows 7 for which I created an image with ShadowProtect. Testing normal software I use FD PC Rescue, I don't like left overs if I decide to uninstall it. I also use Shadow Defender with the occasional scanner, download - scan - reboot - it's gone.

chrisretusn
May 26th, 2009, 12:22 AM
-{ Quote: "I consider all software to be beta. Therefore, I rely upon well-tested backup and restore processes (multiple processes, as all software is beta)." }-:thumb: :thumb:

I checked "My primary PC with no protection (I haven't got anything to loose )"

Yes I do have things to loose; however, I have no special programs or "protection" installed for beta testing. Why should I? Just as AKAJohnDoe, I rely on well-tested backup and restore processes that I would use regardless.

I believe the best way to beta test is through daily use, what better way to do that than on computers that I use on a daily basis.

blacknight
May 27th, 2009, 12:43 PM
It depends: if I have to try a new software, also only as trial, to decide if I want to use it, I use a snapshots software or True Image Acronis. If I had to test a security sw against rootkit or malware, I use a Virtual Machine and in the VM I run the virtual system in Returnil or SandBoxie.

And then I 've deleted the VM, as I'm a bit paranoid, ;D ;D I restore a previous TIA disk image. ;D :)

icr
May 28th, 2009, 01:55 PM
FirstDefense ISR
Shadow Defender

Mr.PC
June 20th, 2010, 05:59 AM
I use Snapshots with Rollback Rx

tpro
December 8th, 2010, 02:05 AM
Imaging Software :thumb:

tipo
December 8th, 2010, 02:32 AM
snapshots software - Comodo Time Machine!

Fad
December 8th, 2010, 02:42 AM
Used to have 2 pcs running side by side with KVM switch, and dual booting on each also, but now I simply don`t have the time or the energy to bother....I now have a smaller desk as a result ;)

Single PC now, install & uninstall without worrying....with Macrium as a fallback.

Rampastein
December 8th, 2010, 02:40 PM
One of my primary PCs.. I have my important data stored on multiple PCs, so losing one temporarily doesn't hurt, and OS inbuilt tools like Windows "System state" backups and System Restore have always saved me in case a beta software has caused something more serious.

Woodgiant
December 8th, 2010, 05:09 PM
To test antivirus software I primemerly use WMware, and sometimes I test on a clean laptop,mostly because it is my experience that not all software works equally well in visualise environment. The Laptop is restored using a driveimage. This year I have just tested one AV-vendor, Comodo V5 and it performed surprisingly well.:)

J_L
December 8th, 2010, 05:10 PM
Virtual Machines.

Daveski17
December 8th, 2010, 06:39 PM
I am running the SeaMonkey & Firefox betas on my old laptop. They are pretty stable. I don't use them much though, I am just curious in how they are being developed.

noone_particular
December 8th, 2010, 06:54 PM
Whether it's "beta" or not doesn't matter. Whenever I install or test new software, I make a full system backup beforehand. The uninstallers that come with software rarely remove everything, especially in the registry. Relying on uninstallers usually leaves you with extra files and useless registry entries that may or may not cause problems, but the gradual buildup of junk will start slowing your PC down. Uninstallers rarely reset your default handlers back to the settings you started with. Often they drop you back to a default setting that may not be what you had. With full system backups, I get back the exact same system I started with.

For the actual testing, I use both virtual and real systems. The exact setup will vary depending on just what kind of software I'm testing. When I was beta testing System Safety Monitor for example, I used 2 setups. One was close to what I would call a typical setup for the operating system. The other was my default multiboot system which was completely different.

Tarnak
December 8th, 2010, 10:43 PM
I run just this computer, for all software, beta or otherwise. No VM's ;)

Boyfriend
December 8th, 2010, 11:54 PM
I use Virtual PC for all testing purposes. If Virtual PC cannot be used, then I backup my computer and use it instead with certain limitations and extensive care/monitoring/logging.

Cutting_Edgetech
December 9th, 2010, 12:00 AM
Virtual Machines or light Virtualization. VMware, Citrix, Shadow Defender, Shadow User.

superhacker
December 13th, 2010, 12:15 PM
I have 4 PCs(3 Desktops and one laptop)and use the oldest one for testing
1 gb ram intel celeron 3GHz 256 nVidia<with windows XP
For malware analyzing i use Virtual PC

xandros
December 22nd, 2010, 05:26 PM
Imaging Software - Acronis

ExtremeGamerBR
December 22nd, 2010, 05:42 PM
Using Virtual Box.

bigc73542
December 22nd, 2010, 05:54 PM
Depending on the type of software I am Beta testing I will usually test it on my primary machine.

Noob
December 22nd, 2010, 11:27 PM
Virtual machine, i don't have funds or a spare PC for a separate machine but if i did have either of those it would be A DAMN LOT BETTER ;D

Creer
December 23rd, 2010, 03:05 PM
I prefer imaging software for beta testing.

SirPeterPan
December 27th, 2010, 01:52 AM
Primary PC, for two reasons:

- I really don't have anything to lose - all is properly backed up/protected (even if my entire city gets nuclear bombed, my important data will remain safe :D);

- When beta testing, I like to work with the software like if it was in RTM version - with daily usage and everything else associated. That's the best way to find relevant bugs anyways.

nikanthpromod
December 27th, 2010, 02:17 AM
once i used Rollback RX
Then i used Drive snapshot
Then i used Shadow defender
Now im using my primary OS. Nothing to loose;)

icr
December 30th, 2010, 01:53 PM
VMware or Virtual Box in most of the cases and Rollback RX or CTM

Ibrad
December 30th, 2010, 04:53 PM
Normally I wait a beta or two then install on my primary netbook. Before I install it however I backup all my personal items to a USB drive then make a Windows System Restore point.

Kernelwars
January 3rd, 2011, 07:53 PM
vmware and also a dedicated beta machine;D

Tarnak
January 4th, 2011, 12:06 AM
I know I have posted in this thread before...but I just test live on my only computer. No special precautions other than FD-ISR. ;)

malexous
January 16th, 2011, 09:32 AM
My primary machine with a Windows Backup and Restore system image waiting.

nisby79
July 28th, 2011, 05:02 AM
only virtual machines

stapp
July 28th, 2011, 05:05 AM
I test on my Primary machine...with FD-ISR just in case :)

1chaoticadult
July 28th, 2011, 07:31 PM
both primary machine with image software and vm

Hungry Man
July 29th, 2011, 01:09 AM
VM + my primary.

jadinolf
August 27th, 2011, 08:20 PM
I have a sacrificial computer in---THE LAB.

I might add that I am using avast! 6.0.1273 beta on this, my main computer with NO problems.

malexous
August 27th, 2011, 08:48 PM
-{ Quote: "My primary machine with a Windows Backup and Restore system image waiting." }-Now, I use Clonezilla.