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Jiffycornbreadman
July 16th, 2006, 02:21 AM
In my opinion the best anti virus program is norton anti virus Any other reccomendations??

ASpace
July 16th, 2006, 02:38 AM
-{ Quote: "In my opinion the best anti virus program is norton anti virus Any other reccomendations??" }-

In my opinion Norton is the worst , why do you think so ?

pykko
July 16th, 2006, 03:33 AM
Jiffycornbreadman, you can take a look at av-comparatives.org or to virusbtn.com to see 2 reliable antivirus tests. ;)

Then you could try the first 2 or 3 ranking products and decide for yourself. There are plenty of aspects concerning and antivirus: detection rates, heuristic/proactive engines, system resources it uses, technical support, configuration, etc. ;)

For me NOD32 and Kaspersky are the best options and Avira if you like a strong free antivirus. But I think there are many other threads on this subject here on this forum. Search and read them. :)

QBgreen
July 16th, 2006, 06:42 AM
-{ Quote: "In my opinion the best anti virus program is norton anti virus Any other reccomendations??" }-

This is a question that many people new to these forums ask. The answer is there is no best anti-virus. What runs effortlessly for some gives others aggravation. Some will serve anyone well out-of-the-box, others require more than a modicum of basic security as well as overall computer knowledge. You need to read through here and see which programs have served people well.

xpsunny
July 16th, 2006, 06:50 AM
NOD32 is the best. It is faster and perfect.
NOD32 labs cares about their customers and Kaspersky labs never listen to their customers....
NOD32 is a legend.

pykko
July 16th, 2006, 06:59 AM
xpsunny, don't yu think you are exagerating criticising Kaspersky?

xpsunny
July 16th, 2006, 07:01 AM
-{ Quote: "xpsunny, don't yu think you are exagerating criticising Kaspersky?" }-

No I'm not. I only want other people to know about the facts of Kaspersky labs.

xpsunny
July 16th, 2006, 07:10 AM
Take a look here:

http://www.eset.com/download/whitepapers/VBEsetJune06.pdf

Decide yourself which is the best.

Blackcat
July 16th, 2006, 07:19 AM
-{ Quote: "NOD32 is the best. It is faster and perfect." }-
No AV is perfect, not even NOD or KAV.
-{ Quote: " NOD32 labs cares about their customers and Kaspersky labs never listen to their customers" }-
You have obviously based your opinion here after many years use of both NOD and KAV?

IME, the support offered by both the official KAV forum, ably led by Don Pelotas, and KAV UK have been superb.

Simply bashing a product will not win you many friends here.

marcromero
July 16th, 2006, 07:25 AM
The "best" antivirus is the one that works "best" for you. I would start by reading at the virus bulletin website to get some insight, then try some of the top tier antivirus softwares, most of them offer trial downloads. There are so many variables to consider when selecting an antivirus program for your computer ie. surfing habits, system performance, installed software, other security applications you may be running and the list goes on... do some research and explore the many antivirus softwares available. Then decide what works "best" for you...

Blackcat
July 16th, 2006, 07:29 AM
-{ Quote: "Take a look here:

http://www.eset.com/download/whitepapers/VBEsetJune06.pdf

Decide yourself which is the best." }-
This shows that NOD and 7 other scanners obtaining 100% pass rates across all test sets.

There are many other factors to consider, as marcromero points out, as to what makes the "best" AV apart from ITW testing!

lodore
July 16th, 2006, 08:01 AM
btw i think i have found the best secuirty combo ever nod32 outpostfirewall and spysweeper what ya think?

CJsDad
July 16th, 2006, 10:05 AM
-{ Quote: "No I'm not. I only want other people to know about the facts of Kaspersky labs." }-


These are not facts, its simply another way to bash what happens to be a very good AV program.
If you do not like a particular program then in my opinion it is best to leave it alone, whether its an AV, AT, or AS program, it does not do any one any good.
LIke I have posted before I use both AV's on seperate computers and I have no problems with either of them.
All products have their good points and their bad points, none of them are perfect.

YeOldeStonecat
July 16th, 2006, 10:14 AM
IMO if you choose between BitDefender, Kapersky, or NOD32....you are being protected by the best.

mercurie
July 16th, 2006, 10:52 AM
-{ Quote: "IMO if you choose between BitDefender, Kapersky, or NOD32....you are being protected by the best." }-Jiffycorn might get popped for tossing this one out. ;D ;D

Of the pay for AV's StoneCat has the "look at these first" imho and I would certainly likely pick one of them after considering other unique system setups to the particular PC involved. This of course is if you feel you need the very best. In most instances GOOD AV will be fine. Based on various reports by various testing orgs. In that case you could expand your selection to some of the other brands mentioned throughout these forums. :)

Surfing habits should be considered and then there is always price to consider as well. ;)

:blink: Now I know why my some say my emails are to long and wordy. ;D ;D

lodore
July 16th, 2006, 10:55 AM
true lol just choose the one you like best thats all they are all great theres no point argueing about it

bigc73542
July 16th, 2006, 11:08 AM
I have used Kav, Nod and Norton and They are all good. But there are some very good av's not mentioned in this thread that are excellent. Do yourself a favor and don't listen to the people that are so adamant that the av they use is the best, it may be for them but necessarily for you. if the av you are useing is working well for you there is really no need to change if it is working for you. The problem with asking what is best is that everyone has their own opinion and even though they really believe that they are right it is not necessarily so. The best way to find the best AV is to trial a bunch of them and see which one is "best for you". Just don't fall into the security paranoia trap that can happen at security forums.

bigc

Howard Kaikow
July 16th, 2006, 11:35 AM
-{ Quote: "In my opinion the best anti virus program is norton anti virus Any other reccomendations??" }-

In terms of bang for the buck, I'd agree, as one can get NAV for $0, or very low
cost, AFTER rebates most all year long.

And I do use NAV.
I also have McAfee VS 10 on one system ($0 AFTER rebate), but due to its "automatic cleaning", I will not use it to scan my computer.

However, Symantec support is useless, and the software is needlessly intrusive.

But, I'll stick with NAV, as long as the cost is so low.

mercurie
July 16th, 2006, 11:50 AM
Wise words from BigC.

BigC you would know this since I know from what experience you have.

This is a concern of mine which has limited my trialing experiences,

Do you find that by the installings and uninstallings you do in trialing Av's that junk is left behind that needs cleaning up? Lots of dead or broken registry keys and the like. :-\

phasechange
July 16th, 2006, 02:05 PM
a combination of TweakNow RegCleaner and CCleaner with Regseaker for paranoia usually does the job :)

Blackcat
July 16th, 2006, 02:37 PM
-{ Quote: " Do you find that by the installings and uninstallings you do in trialing Av's that junk is left behind that needs cleaning up? Lots of dead or broken registry keys and the like. :-\" }-
Possible solutions;

1. Use a good registry cleaner such as RegSupreme to clear up the debris or Erunt to take a snapshot of the registry before installing.

2. I think that bigc uses FirstDefense; you can have a different AV in each snapshot or simply use a "Test Snapshot" for any trials. I think that bigc uses FD.

3. Total Uninstall is also of good use in such a situation as it monitors the install, which you can then revert back to the original state before installing.

Chubb
July 16th, 2006, 02:41 PM
-{ Quote: "btw i think i have found the best secuirty combo ever nod32 outpostfirewall and spysweeper what ya think?" }-

It is hard to find the best security combo, as there are lots of different software configurations.

You can take a look at this interesting thread, especially Post #14 & 15 & 24

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=139021

Behaviour blocking software or HIPS maybe an alternative solution, or an additional another layer of defense for anti-virus, anti-spyware and anti-trojan.

And for the best anti-virus software, you may sometimes need to also consider its compatibility with other firewall and anti-spyware software. If you like anti-virus (A) very much but it conflicts with your favorite firewall (B), you may need to consider anti-virus (C) to be used with firewall (B), or you give up firewall (B) and find another firewall (D) to be used with anti-virus (A).

RejZoR
July 16th, 2006, 04:31 PM
KL Lab certanly listens to users. Few features in KAV are even my ideas. Not major ones but few minor things. Still waiting for few others which i hope will get in KAV6 MP1 release.

bigc73542
July 16th, 2006, 05:46 PM
-{ Quote: "Wise words from BigC.

BigC you would know this since I know from what experience you have.

This is a concern of mine which has limited my trialing experiences,

Do you find that by the installings and uninstallings you do in trialing Av's that junk is left behind that needs cleaning up? Lots of dead or broken registry keys and the like. :-\" }-


I have been useing ashampoo disc and reg cleaner for several years and have never had a problem running it often to clean up after uninstall of av programs. It does a very good job of cleaning without the worry of removing something that shouldn't be removed. If you happen to have a copy of defender Pro antivirus from W-M the utilities on the disc are ashampoo disc and reg cleaner plus a few more apps. I don't recomend apps like this very often but this one works great.
The only av I have had a problem getting all of it removed is Windows Live OneCare and I don't think it can be totally uninstalled except by reformat or by useing a new snapshot with Fdisr or similar app.

lodore
July 17th, 2006, 01:43 PM
antivir premium edtion is cheap and great detection

steve1955
July 17th, 2006, 02:09 PM
Why do so many users get soooo worked up over AVs?:-they're only "tools" used to protect your PC not some life enhancing product!!!

ASpace
July 17th, 2006, 02:12 PM
-{ Quote: "Why do so many users get soooo worked up over AVs?:-they're only "tools" used to protect your PC not some life enhancing product!!!" }-

Q: Why ?

A: Because we have nothing else to do and we've decided to argue about them ;D ;) ;D ;) ;D :D :thumb:

steve1955
July 17th, 2006, 02:27 PM
-{ Quote: "Q: Why ?

A: Because we have nothing else to do and we've decided to argue about them ;D ;) ;D ;) ;D :D :thumb:" }-
ralmao

bellgamin
July 17th, 2006, 10:43 PM
-{ Quote: "Kaspersky labs never listen to their customers...." }-Please don't earn yourself a poor reputation here by slamming a competing AV. Notice the thread title. Where does it say to post unsupported negative comments?

Those of my group who use Kaspersky are delighted with the support they receive -- which is (by the way) seldom needed. Those who use NOD32 are equally satisfied.

Having said that, I remain a firm advocate of DrWeb. It has kept my computer well protected for >3 years.

WSFuser
July 17th, 2006, 10:53 PM
-{ Quote: "Why do so many users get soooo worked up over AVs?:-they're only "tools" used to protect your PC not some life enhancing product!!!" }-
they may not be life enhancing, but they can be life worseners if it doesnt eradicate virus xyz or if it brings ur PC to its knees (aka KAV on a 486...and yes i know its an exaggeration).

anyways my recommendation for an AV are: nod32, kav, or antivir

Perman
July 17th, 2006, 11:01 PM
Hi, folks: The Best AV? You must be kidding. I do not believe there is ever such a thing existing. You guys can scream out of lung claiming your thing is the best, just let tell you this: my grandfather often tells me that melon seller always brags his goods is much sweater than his rivals's. As a professional or expert, entering into debating, your comments have to be very impartial, illustrating pros and cons, and leave the final verdict to the viewers. After all, even you win the debate, would that make you sleep much better? This forum's admin just closed one thread with similar silly behavior today. Let act like an adult. Eh?

bellgamin
July 17th, 2006, 11:47 PM
*The best* is what the thread asks for. So why shouldn't we reply with our opinions?
-{ Quote: "Prov 20:14 ¶ It is naught, it is naught, saith the buyer: but when he is gone his way, then he boasteth." }-

PAX!

Yet another *best* is F-Prot 6.0 with the Inspector's Maximus Splendidus-- soon to come.

Perman
July 17th, 2006, 11:58 PM
Hi, folks: NOBODY has ever said you can or cannot do this on this forum. You can say anything you want to, but please bear these two things in your mind:(1) please express your opinion in more professional fashion, avoiding boy's changing room behavior. (2) to believe or not is entirely upto your vast viewers, like me, an average joe.

Legendkiller
July 18th, 2006, 03:31 AM
look i will agree with bigc here that use a bunch of top of AV's like avast,nod32,norton,mcafee,kav,bitdefender...

But the reason why i support big c's argument is because of the fact that many people recommend avast highly but i never found it to my liking ditto with bitdefender/mcafee...
Kav is damn good,very light,reduces scan time with every subsequent one due to its iswift technology with keeps an account of files scanned and also has an option to scan new and changed files only...

But,as i said try each one of them and see which one fits the bill

Howard Kaikow
July 18th, 2006, 06:29 AM
-{ Quote: "Please don't earn yourself a poor reputation here by slamming a competing AV. Notice the thread title. Where does it say to post unsupported negative comments?

Those of my group who use Kaspersky are delighted with the support they receive -- which is (by the way) seldom needed. Those who use NOD32 are equally satisfied.

Having said that, I remain a firm advocate of DrWeb. It has kept my computer well protected for >3 years." }-

Come on now.

This forum is mostly unsupported comments, lots of emotional, not fact based responses.

All we can do is speak from our own experiences.

Some products work well for some/most folkes, but do not work well, if at all, for others.

By their very nature, forums will ellicit more negative, than positive comments, not to mention some folkes fall in love with the product they are using or are just trying to justify their own use.

Discussions of AV software are perhaps the most biased of all software products.

Socio
July 18th, 2006, 12:44 PM
-{ Quote: " The best way to find the best AV is to trial a bunch of them and see which one is "best for you". Just don't fall into the security paranoia trap that can happen at security forums.

bigc" }-

That is exactly what I did, I used to use Norton's but had a lot of issues with it so much that I gave up on it. Did some reading and research here and elsewhere then did some trials and I ended up going with KAV because that is what worked best for me.

Being that you are worried about left overs after you test some trials, the reg cleaner I use is Registry Mechanic and works well for me I believe you can trial it as well.;)

bigc73542
July 18th, 2006, 01:28 PM
thanks but I have used Registry mechanic in the past and I think I will pass on it.;)

Graystoke
July 18th, 2006, 02:44 PM
I cringe when I see a new thread titled, "Which Is Better", and NOD32 or KAV is part of the thread. Whether they are going up against each other by the original poster, or some other AV, it usually winds up a head bashing contest between KAV and NOD32 users.

I know passions run deep here with NOD32 loyalist and KAV loyalist, but some can go over-board. I've gotten to the point where I try not to read those threads any more. Lets try to be a little more civil. It's gotten so bad for me, that I'm thinking of uninstalling NOD32 and going back to NAV because of all the bickering.

Ok, end of tiny rant. :) I know there are some who are saying, "Who The Hell Is This Guy". Nobody really. Just someone who spends a lot of time here, who has been helped numerous times by the good people here, and just wanted to let his feelings be known. ;) :)

WSFuser
July 18th, 2006, 02:46 PM
NAV? ur kidding right? thats adding fuel to the fire.

bigc73542
July 18th, 2006, 02:47 PM
maybe but it is a decent av regardless what is bantered around here.

dog
July 18th, 2006, 02:53 PM
Honestly .... all the top performers are more than acceptable. :) Whether NAV ... KAV ... NOD ... AVAST .., they're all more than acceptable - use what you prefer and works best/well on your system :)

pykko
July 18th, 2006, 03:03 PM
-{ Quote: "Honestly .... all the top performers are more than acceptable. :) Whether NAV ... KAV ... NOD ... AVAST .., they're all more than acceptable - use what you prefer and works best/well on your system :)" }-

I agree with you!
If u add to this "common sense" everything should be OK for a normal user. I'm not a normal user but that's another story. ;D :P :D

Graystoke
July 18th, 2006, 03:38 PM
-{ Quote: "NAV? ur kidding right? " }-


At this point, I'm not so sure.




-{ Quote: "thats adding fuel to the fire." }-


Not trying to start anything. Just thinking out loud. :)

Benvan45
July 18th, 2006, 05:54 PM
Another thread that's leading nowhere..........who's needing these kind of statements? Nav good, Nav no good! Kav good, Nod better and on and on and on!
Everybody visiting this forum surely has made his pick by now and is maybe seeking support when things don't work. But always going back to what's good and what's no good......

Graystoke
July 18th, 2006, 06:18 PM
-{ Quote: "Another thread that's leading nowhere..........who's needing these kind of statements? Nav good, Nav no good! Kav good, Nod better and on and on and on!
Everybody visiting this forum surely has made his pick by now and is maybe seeking support when things don't work. But always going back to what's good and what's no good......" }-



:thumb: :)

steve1955
July 18th, 2006, 06:30 PM
-{ Quote: "Another thread that's leading nowhere..........who's needing these kind of statements? Nav good, Nav no good! Kav good, Nod better and on and on and on!
Everybody visiting this forum surely has made his pick by now and is maybe seeking support when things don't work. But always going back to what's good and what's no good......" }-
:thumb: ;D

lodore
July 18th, 2006, 06:34 PM
people just accept it kaspersky is great nod32 is great bitdefender is great and so on. people have there own opintions.

im thinking about getting kaspersky soon because f-secure is a bit on the heavy side.

the main point for this message is grow up and accept that most av's are great but kaspersky and nod32 are some of better ones.

as i read on a forum once Nvidia is great ATI is great.

WSFuser
July 18th, 2006, 06:44 PM
well i hope Jiffycornbreadman had fun in starting this thread. i wonder if he made a choice yet.

lodore
July 18th, 2006, 07:18 PM
ye good point

Graystoke
July 18th, 2006, 07:43 PM
He hasn't been back since his OP. You don't think he started this thread just to get everyone all fired up do you? :dry: Nah! That would be just plain meaness on his part. ;) ;D

smith2006
July 18th, 2006, 09:04 PM
Everyone has his or her own idea on which is the best anti-virus software, what is best for me may not be the best for you and vice versa. This discussion will not go anywhere.

I think all of us can agree on is that "any anti-virus software is still better than none on a computer". ;D

Have a nice day!

Cheers
Smith

"Whether it is a black cat or a white cat, as long as it can catch the rat, it is a good cat." (Deng Xiao Ping)

JerryM
July 18th, 2006, 09:42 PM
I guess I have to disagree that these discussions are useless. They may be for those who have read and discussed the pros and cons of the various AVs for awhile, and have settled on a favorite.

However, there are those who come here and want to learn or get opinions as to the best or better AVs or other anti-malware applications. They can learn a lot by such discussions.

In addition, with the changes going on by the developers to update and improve their applications, even more knowledgeable users can learn through the experience of those who have been testing the betas.

So I hope such discussions continue in spite of the strong bias not based upon tests by some. How do we learn about the current problems or lack thereof of KAV6, or F-Protect beta, etc?

I do not think all AVs are equal, and AV Comparatives demonstrates that they are not. If one thinks any one is good enough, then do not spend money, but just get AVG, and if it runs well for you stay with it.

Regards,
Jerry

lodore
July 19th, 2006, 12:30 PM
good point most av's are good but you have to find the one that works for you.

i mean avira antivir seems to be great detection at an unbeatable price i might get that one

steve1955
July 19th, 2006, 05:14 PM
The best AV is probably the one inside your head:-common sense,no software based AV can make up for a lack of that one!
If you totally disregard what kind of sites you visit,use P2P and take no notice of what emails/attachments you open you are likely to get "stung" ,no matter which AV youv'e got installed,somewhere down the line!

fastik
July 20th, 2006, 04:37 AM
Doctor Web is THE BEST 1::)

Benvan45
July 20th, 2006, 04:42 AM
On and on and on and on.........and do we know now, why these are all the best? Man, where does this end? It won't make me any wiser as to what to buy or install, as every scanner will run different on different computers.

We all know which scanners are on the top, trial a few or all of them and see how things run.......then invest and be happy!

gates
July 20th, 2006, 07:19 AM
this is never ending story. Every one of us have own opinion and we respect difrent things in software.

maddawgz
July 20th, 2006, 09:18 AM
dont be ridiculous lmao we all know trend is the winner lol..no bugs found here in 2yrs either :-* :-* ;D

steve1955
July 20th, 2006, 09:37 AM
-{ Quote: "He hasn't been back since his OP. You don't think he started this thread just to get everyone all fired up do you? :dry: Nah! That would be just plain meaness on his part. ;) ;D" }-
Yes you would have to have nothing else in your life to do things like that! do you think some people actually do things like that?(lol)

Graystoke
July 20th, 2006, 04:52 PM
-{ Quote: "Yes you would have to have nothing else in your life to do things like that! do you think some people actually do things like that?(lol)" }-


If there are people like that, they have to get a life. And very soon. ;D ;D