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sosaiso
July 6th, 2006, 11:50 AM
Here we go with the Linux questions again. :D

I've recently acquired a very antique computer. Something along the lines of 200mhz Intel and a 32mb of RAM. I want to get this system up and running for my parents. I was just wondering what version of linux would run on such a system. I'm not sure of the HD space capacities, but I imagine it won't be much. All I need it to do is run the internet and maybe some word processing from time to time. I'm sure all distros can do the aforementioned tasks.

So, I guess my question is, which is the lightest/smallest Linux distro with these features and not have the computer sluggishly slow?

Thanks much.

dog
July 6th, 2006, 12:11 PM
I'd say Puppy (http://www.puppyos.com/) and DSL (Damn Small Linux) (http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/) ... would be the lightest.

Puppy has been run on similar specs -> http://www.puppylinux.org/user/readarticle.php?article_id=11 ... you just need to make use of the swap to offset the memory requirement.

sosaiso
July 6th, 2006, 12:24 PM
dog, you are the best.

It looks like that DSL is the lighter of the two. However, it doesn't seem this machine meets the minimum requirements for Firefox. What kind of browser would I be using?

I'll look into getting this thing off the ground. Much thanks again.

dog
July 6th, 2006, 01:40 PM
You can use Dillo (http://www.dillo.org/) - It's a very basic browser - I believe both distros include it

Here's a screenshot of it:

gkweb
July 6th, 2006, 01:45 PM
Hello,

I would vote for Slackware (http://www.slackware.com/) that I was able to install smoothly on machines where Mandrake could not even install (not enough memory). Besides Slackware, may be try the Fedora Core (http://fedora.redhat.com/) distrib.

Regards,
gkweb.

sosaiso
July 6th, 2006, 01:57 PM
Ah, Dillo looks to be an interesting little browser. I assume, as far as browsing is concerned, it does everything, SSL, etc?

sosaiso
July 6th, 2006, 01:58 PM
Hello there gkweb,

I combed the website for system reqs for Fedora Core, but I could not seem to find any. Slackware seems to be another possibility for me to look into. Thanks.

iceni60
July 6th, 2006, 02:06 PM
you could try xubuntu. it should be easier to setup and use then some of the others mentioned. i'm not sure about the specs though.
http://www.xubuntu.org/

BTW, DSL comes with Firefox.

dog
July 6th, 2006, 02:08 PM
-{ Quote: "Ah, Dillo looks to be an interesting little browser. I assume, as far as browsing is concerned, it does everything, SSL, etc?" }-You need to enable the plugin for SSL (it's an aphla currently - so it isn't really useable)...

change the following line in dpi/https.c
#undef ENABLE_SSL
to:
#define ENABLE_SSL ... recompile and reinstall (http://www.dillo.org/FAQ.html#q12) ... it's very basic ... but useable for general browsing.

sosaiso
July 6th, 2006, 02:14 PM
-{ Quote: "you could try xubuntu. it should be easier to setup and use then some of the others mentioned. i'm not sure about the specs though.
http://www.xubuntu.org/

" }-

I found on their site:
-{ Quote: "To run the Desktop CD at least 128 megabytes of RAM is required. To use the installed system at least 64 megabytes of RAM is required but 128 is recommended. At least 1.4 gigabytes of disk space is required. " }-

So that's out, but thanks for the suggestion. I didn't know there was a very light ubuntu version.

Thanks dog for the links to SSL, I'll try to figure that out. My parents might be doing some online banking from time to time, so I want to make sure those things work.

dog
July 6th, 2006, 02:24 PM
-{ Quote: "Thanks dog for the links to SSL, I'll try to figure that out. My parents might be doing some online banking from time to time, so I want to make sure those things work." }-I wouldn't use Dillo for that considering it's in alpha state ... banking sites usually require javascript too which isn't supported.

Opera may be viable - I don't see a listing for the minimum system requirements other than this -> http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=206

iceni60
July 6th, 2006, 02:29 PM
-{ Quote: "I found on their site:


So that's out, but thanks for the suggestion. I didn't know there was a very light ubuntu version.
" }-
that's what i ment about not being sure of the specs. lol, i didn't really look very closely at the specs before i posted :o

i just asked some Linux users and they said -
-{ Quote: "well then, you should think about DSL/Puppy, slackware etc" }- :D

Alphalutra1
July 6th, 2006, 02:39 PM
In addition to what has been said, I will add

Vector Linux (http://www.vectorlinux.com/)

It is a distro based off of slackware, but runs much faster.

Gentoo is also pretty fast since it has all of those compilation enhancements (it will take an insanely long time to install on your pc though since the entire os is compiled from source during install :o ).

If you don't like any of those, you can try ubuntu, then install fluxbox for the desktop (much faster than Xfce). Remove all of the uneccesary apps that you won't use, disable startup processes, etc.

Good luck!

Alphalutra1

Nick Rhodes
July 6th, 2006, 04:00 PM
-{ Quote: "Hello,

I would vote for Slackware (http://www.slackware.com/) that I was able to install smoothly on machines where Mandrake could not even install (not enough memory). Besides Slackware, may be try the Fedora Core (http://fedora.redhat.com/) distrib.

Regards,
gkweb." }-

Another vote for Slacky. I used it on a Pentuim 100 a few years ago.

My friend put linux on my Amiga 1200 - I will have to ask him what distro :D

sosaiso
July 6th, 2006, 11:26 PM
I've decided on Slackware. I read Puppy and DSL, both would work great from the live distros, but I am too unsure how to get it to install to the HDD.

I'll look into how to get that distro to install to harddrive and let you know how I go. It seemed to be the easiest process of the small distros.

Thank you all again for the great suggestions.

iceni60
July 7th, 2006, 01:54 AM
-{ Quote: "I've decided on Slackware. I read Puppy and DSL, both would work great from the live distros, but I am too unsure how to get it to install to the HDD.

I'll look into how to get that distro to install to harddrive and let you know how I go. It seemed to be the easiest process of the small distros.

Thank you all again for the great suggestions." }-
the makers of DSL recommend you don't install it to the HDD, i can't remember why though. there's also DSL-N which came out a month or so ago. it's 1/3 bigger.

i think Slackware is abit complicated for a first distro, maybe once it's setup it will be fine, but some of the programs will have to be installed from source which will involve finding all the dependencies.

there are afew places where you can get pre-compiled binaries though and there are the package managers too - slapt-get (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slapt-get)
-{ Quote: "slapt-get does not provide dependency resolution for packages included within the Slackware distribution. It does, however, provide a framework for dependency resolution..." }-
http://software.jaos.org/#slapt-get

there is SWareT too which i think might deal with package dependencies
http://swaret.sourceforge.net/index.php

i've never used Slackware though, but when i install my new HDD i really want to install it, but mainly because i've heard you really have to know what you are doing to use it and i want to learn more about Linux, Ubuntu is too easy!

dog
July 9th, 2006, 12:01 PM
-{ Quote: "I've decided on Slackware. " }-You won't go wrong with that ... it's a good distro.

Best Wishes and looking forward to hearing an update. :)

Steve

sosaiso
July 9th, 2006, 11:03 PM
Thanks for all the help guys.

I'll def keep you updated on how I go.

The problem is how to lug around this machine across town without getting hit by a car, dropping the computer, etc. *puppy*

sosaiso
July 17th, 2006, 03:31 PM
Slackware installed, and everything is up and running. Kinda. But it does the job fine. Thanks all.