Rising Antivirus

[Albinoni]

Has anybody ever heard or tried this antivirus software. Suppose to be the No.1 AV from China and I would say its produced in China as well. Basically I've never heard of it but saw it advertised on Ebay.

http://www.rising-global.com/

[DDR789]

I am a chinese the rising is not good.in china,the best av is jiangmin

[Chubb]

I saw it in HK in an authorized re-seller shop. The staff said that it is the No1 antivirus software in China, but I have not seen any reviews of it so far.

[shek]

Rising is an average AV. Jiangmin is a little bit better. But I will not recommand them at all. IMHO, they are in the tier 3 among those AV vendors. The reason Rising is the NO1 in China is that it does a really good job in marketing.

[Perman]

Hi, some time ago, i d/l from a chinese web site and ran a trial. it froze up my pc upon reboot. it might not be one of your urgently needed apps ,IMO. However, i would try it again providing there is a favorable review on the horizon.

[tiagozt]

In Brazil Norton and AVG are number 1 and 2.
Both aren't good... ;)

[proll]

In China,the NO.1 AV is Jiangmin antivirus.
http://global.jiangmin.com/

Jiangmin has won the CheckMark Level1 and Level2 some days before.

[bellgamin]

{QUOTE-> In China,the NO.1 AV is Jiangmin antivirus.
http://global.jiangmin.com/

Jiangmin has won the CheckMark Level1 and Level2 some days before. <-QUOTE}Wow, a 25.4MB download. It's a fat little fellow, isn't it! The GUI pictured HERE (http://global.jiangmin.com/product.htm) is superbly simple. I am curious about feature #8. Is it for real? My current AV doesn't do that AFAIK.{QUOTE-> #8] Monitor System Registry modification. <-QUOTE}

[ink]

{QUOTE-> Wow, a 25.4MB download. It's a fat little fellow, isn't it! The GUI pictured HERE (http://global.jiangmin.com/product.htm) is superbly simple. I am curious about feature #8. Is it for real? My current AV doesn't do that AFAIK. <-QUOTE}

Yes, it can monitor the registry change 4 years ago? I can't remember.
And it can scan the disk before system boot just like avast. It also has an unknown virus scanner give some point on some suspicous programmes,then you have the choice to add them in the detection before the signature release like the mcafee 8.0i.This product have very good detection and have some relationships with kaspersky.
By the way, the registry monitor, individual component scan for file,web,mail,internet,system vulnerability, some network program build in and unkown scan is first seen in China and then in norton, mcafee,kaspersky.
The rising is also good, it has an file structure backup 6 years ago? And it also offer a free toolbar to protect ie hijack and online fraud.

[ink]

In China Rising is the no1 in the market and then jiangmin and duba.Kaspersky and norton mcafee is also used. Recently nod32 is sold here.But in my experience, the trojan is the big concern here, although nod32 is good at detect the wide spreading trojan huipigon, it not so good at others, kaspersky is good at fast response, but the trojan here is borne to avoid kaspersky, and local antivus is sometimes faster than kasperksy. People using norton here is just a pain, the detection in the samples we exchange every day is under 5% even after submition everyday.
Kasperksy is potencial to be the most successful foreign producer here, but the competition in china is fury, the price is about $20 for the major product and free update more than one year.

[Joliet Jake]

{QUOTE-> Wow, a 25.4MB download. It's a fat little fellow, isn't it! The GUI pictured HERE (http://global.jiangmin.com/product.htm) is superbly simple. I am curious about feature #8. Is it for real? My current AV doesn't do that AFAIK. <-QUOTE}

Feature # 15 could be misconstrued.;D

[ink]

{QUOTE-> Feature # 15 could be misconstrued.;D <-QUOTE}

It has four skins, duba has the most beautiful GUI design in China. Kaspersky 6 also will offer skins

[Firecat]

Huh? Rising AV has some relationships with Kaspersky? Can someone explain please? ???

[shek]

No. Jiangmin has some relationships with Kaspersky. But the details have never been disclosed.

[sokolova]

i have used it for a long time,but now i am using McAfee.

[IBK]

I am searching personal contact email addresses of responsible peoples of the companies Jiangmin and Rising. If anyone has them, please PM me. Thanks!

[proll]

Nowadays,Rising has won the CheckMark Level1 and Level2 too.
http://www.westcoastlabs.org/cm-av-list.asp?cat_id=2
http://www.westcoastlabs.org/cm-av-list.asp?cat_id=1

and further Rising has won the Trojan checkmark
http://www.westcoastlabs.org/cm-av-list.asp?cat_id=3

[RejZoR]

Well IBK has some doubts about these tests. Honestly from what i heard i can't blame him. It's all just a matter of $$$ and not that much of detection...

[IBK]

yeah, you only have to read carefully what that certification means and how it can be obtained. The tests itself are sure done very professional, no doubt.

[RejZoR]

Sure it's done professionally, but testbed is limited, isn't it? At least compared to your megatestbed.

[ink]

{QUOTE-> I am searching personal contact email addresses of responsible peoples of the companies Jiangmin and Rising. If anyone has them, please PM me. Thanks! <-QUOTE}

Do you mean the CEO or the technical starffs? I think it is not difficult to find on their website, if you have some language problem, I can help.

[ronjor]

Several posts removed. Let's stay on the topic of other antivirus software and leave the politics home.
Your help is appreciated.

[IBK]

{QUOTE-> Do you mean the CEO or the technical starffs? I think it is not difficult to find on their website, if you have some language problem, I can help. <-QUOTE}

Hi, Thnaks, I found now all contact mail addresses, and will contact some various av vendors soon ;)

[aluckystar]

I don't like Rising AV.
It often skips virus files in the scan.I had seen some test, it is a product in the same level with Ahn Lab V3.
But once you buy it, it offers a update services forever,it's quite reasonable.

Jiangmin's test result is better.It do has some relationship with KAV.It is a product in the same level with F-secure in AV.But its firewall is poor.

Kingsoft once used trendmicro's PC-cillin98 engine once, then it bought Dr.Web's engine.Now, KIS2006 uses its own engine,called:The Blue Core.but it doesn't perform well.

And there is a new AV called Guanghua AV produced by Greatsoft Inc( http://www.viruschina.com/english/index.htm) in China is more and more popular.It's killing rate is even higher than KAV, but its GUI is poor.

[ellison64]

{QUOTE-> I don't like Rising AV.
It often skips virus files in the scan.I had seen some test, it is a product in the same level with Ahn Lab V3.
But once you buy it, it offers a update services forever,it's quite reasonable.

Jiangmin's test result is better.It do has some relationship with KAV.It is a product in the same level with F-secure in AV.But its firewall is poor.

Kingsoft once used trendmicro's PC-cillin98 engine once, then it bought Dr.Web's engine.Now, KIS2006 uses its own engine,called:The Blue Core.but it doesn't perform well.

And there is a new AV called Guanghua AV produced by Greatsoft Inc( http://www.viruschina.com/english/index.htm) in China is more and more popular.It's killing rate is even higher than KAV, but its GUI is poor. <-QUOTE}

Can you confirm rising offers update services forever?.The site says $29.95 for a one year single licence.
http://www.rising-global.com/Default.aspx
ellison

[IBK]

{QUOTE-> Jiangmin's test result is better.It is a product in the same level with F-secure in AV.
And there is a new AV called Guanghua AV produced by Greatsoft Inc( http://www.viruschina.com/english/index.htm) in China is more and more popular.It's killing rate is even higher than KAV, but its GUI is poor. <-QUOTE}
would be cool if some independent tests could confirm this...

[Inspector Clouseau]

Interesting is the following statement:

{QUOTE->
detect and clean more than 2500 virus hidden in the compressed executable file
<-QUOTE}

which is compeltely nonsense. How will you clean a trojan within a runtime compressed malware? After "cleaning" what's left? Only the runtime unpacker stub which does... uhm... actually nothing after ...uhm unpacking actually nothing because it got "cleaned" ? Now hey that's bullshit of its best!

And how do they come to detecting more than 2500 "hidden" Malware in the compressed executables? Assuming that they have more than 2500 Trojan/Backdoor/Worm Signatures this statement is the next bullshit.

Because: If they unpack at least UPX then this would be already 2500 packed Malware variants if you compress 2500 files just with UPX. Let alone ASPack, FSG etc.

[shek]

{QUOTE-> Can you confirm rising offers update services forever?.The site says $29.95 for a one year single licence.
http://www.rising-global.com/Default.aspx
ellison <-QUOTE}

As far as I remember, Rising did provide its customers, domestic market only, free version upgrade and definition updates from 1999 to 2004. I am not sure about year 05 and its current policy, but I seriously doubt it would provide the same offer to any users outside China. As you could see from its website, it's one year licence.

In terms of its detection rate, IMHO, rising is an average AV. Jiangmin and Kingsoft are in the same tier too. They are the top3 av in China. In recent years, they have slow down their real technical progress and put their energies in the marketing side. So far their strategies are successful, because most of Chinese consumers like other countries are average Joes, plus some kind of patriotic.

shek

[shek]

{QUOTE-> would be cool if some independent tests could confirm this... <-QUOTE}

I seriously doubt it. As far as I could see, in general Guanghua AV or other Chinese AVs never come close to KAV. But in some particular categories, such as QQHelper/QQShou/Hupigon---three most popular trojans(including variants) in China, they might be on a par with it.

[ellison64]

{QUOTE-> As far as I remember, Rising did provide its customers, domestic market only, free version upgrade and definition updates from 1999 to 2004. I am not sure about year 05 and its current policy, but I seriously doubt it would provide the same offer to any users outside China. As you could see from its website, it's one year licence.

In terms of its detection rate, IMHO, rising is an average AV. Jiangmin and Kingsoft are in the same tier too. They are the top3 av in China. In recent years, they have slow down their real technical progress and put their energies in the marketing side. So far their strategies are successful, because most of Chinese consumers like other countries are average Joes, plus some kind of patriotic.

shek <-QUOTE}

Thanks for confirmation.I always like to try various software and indeed have a licence for rising from a year or two ago.It wasnt that bad but after an upgrade it was way to heavy for my 98 system.I agree about the detections but personally theres a lot of other things that i like to have in an av liek stability and ease of use.I stll have a softspot for the avg+plus firewall edition which works flawlessly on my system.If they were to add the ewido ad/spyware signatures i wouldnt hesitate.
thanks again
ellison

[aluckystar]

I can confirm that. One of my friends started using Rising AV since 1998 and he can update until now. And the Edition of the software also updated, he has used rising 98,2000,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006 !!!

COOL !!!

[shek]

As I already said, most of the wilders member will not benefit from it. Rising's offer is for domestic(Chinse) consumer only. It is subject to change and I don't think it will continue in the future.

[aluckystar]

http://bbs.hzva.org/attachments/ext_jpg/compare_4ewQys0kP8sy.jpg

This is a compare in the year 2003 , tested by www.virus.gr . After that, Rising AV didn't take part in any international test.

[aluckystar]

{QUOTE-> would be cool if some independent tests could confirm this... <-QUOTE}

Acturally, the Ionwing Lab in China (http://www.ionwing.com) did the test 2 month ago, and Guanghua AV had a higher detection percentage than Kaspersky Anti Virus 5.0 did.And it also performs good on cleanning viruses. But its GUI is poor.

[IBK]

after some internal information i got this morning, i think those 2 products (Guang Hua and Jiangmin) will not be tested by me, no matter how they score.

[shek]

IBK---

I just recognized that Kingsoft changed their contact email address for potential foreign user, which is overseasbiz@kingsoft.com.

[DNA_111]

I have to say Rising AV is not good,but when you buy one, yon can update for 4~5 years long(at least in china we can). But i now use KV(jiangmin).I think jiangmin is better.

[IBK]

{QUOTE-> I have to say Rising AV is not good,but when you buy one, yon can update for 4~5 years long(at least in china we can). But i now use KV(jiangmin).I think jiangmin is better. <-QUOTE}

Rising is better, but not good at detecting old dos viruses. well, it depends in which categories...

[aluckystar]

{QUOTE-> Rising is better, but not good at detecting old dos viruses. well, it depends in which categories... <-QUOTE}

Is it because of Rising's using its own engine make it better?

From the aspect of detection percentage, I think Jiangmin is better than

Rising.

In my opinion, Rising now spend too much on Macketing but not Technology.

But I still wonder the result of the test.

[JosephWang]

hi, buddies, I am from Rising Antivirus and my name is Joseph.

If you have any question about Rising Antivirus, pls do not hesitate to ask me, my email is: benrui@gmail.com.

Rising Antivirus has just attend and passed the WestCoast Test on Level I, Level II and Trojan.

According to IDC's Report, Rising is the No. 1 Content Security Provider in China 2005 and has the biggest market share about 29.0%.

The No. 2 is Symantec, about 15% market share.
No. 3 is Trend Macro, about 12% market share.
------
My work in Rising is: in charge of the Text Resource about all Rising products, including antivirus, personal firewall and mobile security. It will be very appreciate if you would try our product and find any errors or have any suggestions.

Symantec earned about 207 Billion RMB last year, but Rising is less than 5 Billion. Rising has a long way to become a world famous av product. Any suggestion will be appreciate.

[IBK]

{QUOTE->
From the aspect of detection percentage, I think Jiangmin is better than Rising. <-QUOTE}

No, Rising is in general much better than Jiangmin in detection rate. (exception: mainly the dos category). Jiangmin did not reply to the invitation so far :/, so it will not be included in the test.

[JosephWang]

See chart from IDC report

2005 Security Content Management Software Market Share

[Blackspear]

Hi Joseph, welcome to Wilders.

So are we going to see Rising tested at www.av-comparatives.org ?

Cheers ;D

[bellgamin]

@Mr JosephWang...

I am happy to see a representative of Rising here at Wilders. I hope you will post often. I also hope that you will encourage some of your technical people to drop in from time to time. Please relax and feel at home. There are many folks here who do not have English as their primary language.

[SDS909]

Joe, I wrote a published review on Rising in 2004 that I believe caused a China slashdot (or something), because the site that posted the review got something like 14 million hits a day for a peroid. I have no doubt that Rising holds a significant marketshare in China based on what happened with all of that. (do you remember the review?) I wish for the life of me I could find the email addy of my contact at your company though, my license expired. :thumbd:

Fun fun product by the way, an interface to die for. Good luck on the Comparatives, although I believe Rising is strongest on regional threats in the asian marketplace. But I could be wrong on that of course.

[JosephWang]

{QUOTE-> Hi Joseph, welcome to Wilders.

So are we going to see Rising tested at www.av-comparatives.org ?

Cheers ;D <-QUOTE}

Yes, our branch in Australia has contact with Mr. Andreas Clementi, Rising Antivirus will attend the fowllowing test. Any result will be very helpful for our product.

[JosephWang]

{QUOTE-> @Mr JosephWang...

I am happy to see a representative of Rising here at Wilders. ... <-QUOTE}

Hi, bellgamin, I am glad to hear that and I will told my colleague Wilders. I thought some of them will come here.

[JosephWang]

{QUOTE-> do you remember the review? <-QUOTE}
Sorry, can not remember. But i am very interested with that, would u pls send me your review?

>> Good luck on the Comparatives.
thx, any result would be acceptable. even bad result will help us improving our product.

[iloveyou]

{QUOTE-> In China,the NO.1 AV is Jiangmin antivirus.
http://global.jiangmin.com/

Jiangmin has won the CheckMark Level1 and Level2 some days before. <-QUOTE}

are you kiding ? Jiangmin global website too simple , which does not have any China No.1 features ,but Rising global webstie better http://www.rising-global.com.

[zhcx]

{QUOTE-> I am a chinese the rising is not good.in china,the best av is jiangmin <-QUOTE}
I am come from china too,but i think rising is better than jiangmin:thumb:

[JosephWang]

{QUOTE-> I can confirm that. One of my friends started using Rising AV since 1998 and he can update until now. And the Edition of the software also updated, he has used rising 98,2000,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006 !!!

COOL !!! <-QUOTE}

If what you have said is true, would you pls provide us your friend's contacting information? I thought our lawyer would be very glad to contact your friend.

[aluckystar]

{QUOTE-> If what you have said is true, would you pls provide us your friend's contacting information? I thought our lawyer would be very glad to contact your friend. <-QUOTE}

At first, as a Chinese, I don't want to say too much about it, since you said that, I will say something more.

My friend started to use Rising in the year 1998. Rising AV 98 promised it can get a life-long update. But Rising did not fulfill its promise. That's why I don't trust Rising AV. In my opinion, A COMPANY WITHOUT GOOD FAITH IS NOT TRUSTWORTHY.

Then, my friend had to buy a new edition.

Rising spend too much on marketing. It even has the top score in the last 3 years in the test compete with KAV,NAV,Mcafee,Panda,TrendMicro and Rising print this result on the package of its product.The professionals can discover that this test is not reasonable.

[iloveyou]

{QUOTE-> At first, as a Chinese, I don't want to say too much about it, since you said that, I will say something more.

My friend started to use Rising in the year 1998. Rising AV 98 promised it can get a life-long update. But Rising did not fulfill its promise. That's why I don't trust Rising AV. In my opinion, A COMPANY WITHOUT GOOD FAITH IS NOT TRUSTWORTHY.

Then, my friend had to buy a new edition.

Rising spend too much on marketing. It even has the top score in the last 3 years in the test compete with KAV,NAV,Mcafee,Panda,TrendMicro and Rising print this result on the package of its product.The professionals can discover that this test is not reasonable. <-QUOTE}

At first, as a Chinese, I don't want to say too much about it, since you said that, I will say something more.
Are you really Chinese?? :wacko: .

My friend started to use Rising in the year 1998. Rising AV 98 promised it can get a life-long update. But Rising did not fulfill its promise. That's why I don't trust Rising AV. In my opinion, A COMPANY WITHOUT GOOD FAITH IS NOT TRUSTWORTHY.

until now more than 20,000,000 users is trusting Rising all over the world. even your friend is using Rising from 1998 to 2006.why you said that ?

Then, my friend had to buy a new edition.

Quote:
Originally Posted by aluckystar
I can confirm that. One of my friends started using Rising AV since 1998 and he can update until now. And the Edition of the software also updated, he has used rising 98,2000,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006 !!!

COOL !!!

you have said your freind is using Rising from 1998 to 2006, why you said he bought new edition again ? Mybe you have so many friends trusting Rising , this friend is other friend of you ;D

Rising spend too much on marketing. It even has the top score in the last 3 years in the test compete with KAV,NAV,Mcafee,Panda,TrendMicro and Rising print this result on the package of its product.The professionals can discover that this test is not reasonable
All the testing results from official department , e.g. IDC, Westcoast,PC Magazine..... , even you dont trust these organization ????
the other hand we should talk about technical problem not marketing .