Do you like Microsoft??

[SwordOfSecurity]

Ah yes, another interesting poll!! I know a lot of people dislike/like/partially-like Microsoft, because of its products/actions, but I'm curious to see how many people actually like Microsoft?

Do you like Microsoft?

Edit: Feel free to post any comments on your decisions. I personally chose "I think they're okay." since I think most of their products are fine.There hasn't really been anything that's caused me to greatly dislike Microsoft so far.

[Upasaka]

OK but.........I won't be buying into anymore of their products.

[Lamehand]

I don't like any big company, their to single minded, this one has only one goal; selling me their crappy software.
'Hate' is a to strong a word for this. they just made a couple of stupid choices, not in our interrest.

Lamehand

[ErikAlbert]

If I was younger, I would certainly go for another operating system, than MS Windows.
I started with DOS, Win95, win2000proSP4 and now winXPproSP2.
I can't do anything with an OS, but I need it to install other USEFULL softwares to DO something, like MS Office 200x Pro and many other softwares.
That's why I will keep on using Windows, because it isn't important enough for me at my age (almost 58 ).

The dream of Bill Gates was to create an USERFRIENDLY Operating System and applications for EVERYBODY in the world and he has been very successfull in realizing this dream.
When somebody is very successfull, other people get jealous and try to destroy that success. That's how people are and it has been proven over and over in history of mankind.

Nowadays, M$ is too large, too many employees, too many bosses and then you lose control over things and when that happens it leads to wrong decisions.
Another problem of M$ : too much money and that decreases your motivation to be the best gradually, because it doesn't matter anymore.
Why do we have to be creative, if we can buy the know-how of a smaller company and that's what M$ is doing on a regular base : buying or controlling companies. M$ is more a bank, than a software company.

MS Applications, that come with Windows are all MEDIOCRE compared with third party softwares and
that's why smarter users are replacing MS Applications one by one with much better softwares.
M$ doesn't care about that, because the users already PAID for MS Applications.
After all, you can't buy Windows without all these mediocre applications.

Another problem of M$ : they talk too much and make too many promises in advance.
They better keep their mouth shut, go back to humility and work harder.

Another problem of M$ : the bad guys and there is no better target than Windows and MS Application.
LINUX isn't safer than Windows. It is only safer because it isn't an interesting target for the bad guys.
Once the bad guys put their claws constantly in LINUX, it will become as vulnerable as WINDOWS.
LINUX-users will probably not admit it now, because it didn't happen yet.
If you really think that some OS's and softwares are untouchable, than you are a dreamer and you certainly underestimate the bad guys, because some of them are as smart or smarter than the good guys.
This is not a war of the strongest people, this is a war of the smartest people and internet is the battlefield of that war.

Bottom line : there is no safe OS, there is no safe software.
Just use an OS and softwares, that aren't an interesting target for the bad guys YET and you will be safer as long it lasts. Being the safest is a matter of dates. :)

[sweater]

Haven't tried yet other operating system. :dry: :blink:

Microsoft I think is really good, coz there are lots of software out there that are compatible with their operating system. Maybe, Apple and others are also good but still very few softwares in the net are compatible with their operating system that we have to rely on the bundled packaged they gave to the consumers. :wacko: :-\

As of now I have Windows XP/Sp2 Pro and it works well like magic, even if this is not as safe like the others have told but at least this is the latest that they can offer. We cannot blame Bill Gates if he becomes the richest man of the world today, coz his invention/innovations I think is one of the best that I have ever seen so far since I was born. 8) ;)

[bigc73542]

I do like microsoft for the Os's and software that they have created. If it wasn't for Microsoft home computing probably wouldn't exist in any form related to the way it is today. Business might be in a bit of a bind with out their software. I do believe that Microsoft is a bit heavy handed and they would love to be a monoply but I for one am glad they exist and do appreciate their software. And as for the people that don't like microsoft, just delete all Microsoft software off of your computer then you will be happier with the evil giants software gone.

[Lamehand]

ErikAlbert;
When you say that every software has it's flaws that can be exploited you're right.
When you say that Linux is as unsafe as windows than you're badly mistaking.
The whole structure from this OS is intrinsecally more safe than windows. For more detailed information i would advice you to go to ubuntuforums.org, where you can find a lot of information on this subject.
Being a target for malware is not defined by how many users a certain OS has but how you deal, as OS maker, with these flaws, and how fast your response is to correct a flaw.Furthermore what plays an important part is the question how easy is it to compromise or to get in the OS.MS has gone out of their way to acomplish this and call it 'userfriendliness' or a 'feature'.

For your information, i've been running this linux distro for a couple of weeks now without the use of an AV or AT, nor HIPS of any kind, it's not needed.

regards
Lamehand

[ronjor]

Microsoft made a misstep in my opinion, when they integrated IE into Windows. Other than that, I've enjoyed using Windows for a long time. It gets me where I want to go.

[Peter2150]

-{ Quote: "Microsoft made a misstep in my opinion, when they integrated IE into Windows. Other than that, I've enjoyed using Windows for a long time. It gets me where I want to go." }-

Hi Ron

Worse than that are the number of other companies that integrate IE into their software, and use it to display windows. Grrr.

Pete

[dog]

I for one ... Hate M$ ... I hate M$ for the way they mistreat their consumers, making us the victims of their anti-piracy war. The way Vista is going with control thru DRM = Output Content Protection Management & High-Bandwidth Digital Copy Protection. The fact that M$ caters to both sides of the field selling advertising to business and providing limited controls for users to block them. I wonder why M$ has decided to have outbound firewall protection disabled in Vista ... would it be they're catering to businesses (DRM and Adware). :-\

While M$ may have been the main contributer to how we compute today ... are we better off? Did they lead in innovation or did they hinder it?

[Pieter_Arntz]

I think that MicroSoft does its best to please their customers, abide the laws of each and every country and improve their products.

It is, after all, in their own best interest to do so.
But I can also imagine that it takes some juggling to do all that.

[dog]

-{ Quote: "It is, after all, in their own best interest to do so." }-But the questions remains ... which customers do they really value ... certainly not you and me. ;) We are not a blimp on the radar, not a pawn in a chess match ... we remain insignificant. Big business is wonderful isn't it? :-\

[Cochise]

Is this a catch question??........;D ;D ;D

[EASTER.2010]

-{ Quote: "Is this a catch question??........;D ;D ;D" }-

Looks like it could be, but then check out all these polls, many of them look like catch questions also. 8)

The most positive thing i can honestly say that i like about Microsoft is that they formulated OS's where like has been mentioned already, really quality software is accessible to the public users via internet (which i think deserves even more credit then a soft OS maker btw). They M$ have helped in large part if not entirely as a whole to encourage new software developers and computer technicians to be spawned massively on a global basis which continues to this very day. I'll definitely give them that.

[WSFuser]

i dont rele like Microsoft, but they make two products which i depend on.

Windows. its gaming capability is unparallelled and being teh mostly used OS, i can find lots of useful and amazing software for it.

Office. simply a easy to use and powerful productivity suite. tho it costs $$$, more than Windows usually.

[Rasheed187]

I don´t hate them but with so much money on the bank they should be more innovative, we shouldn´t have to wait for years to get certain features in the OS or browser engine. I do like XP (the MacOS sucks) but it still can be improved a lot. I also think MS should cut prices, XP and Office are way too expensive. ::)

[gracie123]

I do :)... I like Windows XP and I am a proud Hotmail Plus user... as well as MSN Messenger and I can't wait for the "Windows Live" services ;D. Also enjoy using Office 2003 Professional.

[TNT]

"Not really"...

[Smokey]

I have mixed feeling about MS.

Kind of love/hate relationship, i guess.

But really like them: no.

-{ Quote: "
While M$ may have been the main contributer to how we compute today ... are we better off? Did they lead in innovation or did they hinder it?
" }-
I must vote for the second option: they hinder innovation::)

[EASTER.2010]

-{ Quote: "I don´t hate them but with so much money on the bank they should be more innovative, we shouldn´t have to wait for years to get certain features in the OS or browser engine. I do like XP (the MacOS sucks) but it still can be improved a lot. I also think MS should cut prices, XP and Office are way too expensive. ::)" }-

I like your reply, very On-Target IMHO.........................:thumb:

Thanks

[Ailric]

-{ Quote: "I do like microsoft for the Os's and software that they have created. If it wasn't for Microsoft home computing probably wouldn't exist in any form related to the way it is today. Business might be in a bit of a bind with out their software. I do believe that Microsoft is a bit heavy handed and they would love to be a monoply but I for one am glad they exist and do appreciate their software. And as for the people that don't like microsoft, just delete all Microsoft software off of your computer then you will be happier with the evil giants software gone." }-

DITTOS!:thumb:

[Osaban]

Yes, I do.

[marcromero]

I do, the Windows platform is user friendly, easily navigated and well documented. Sure, it has it's quirks and sofware for it is pricey, but it works.

[ThunderZ]

My job requires me to be familiar with and use Windows and related software. If it were not for that I would be looking at alternatives. That is the only reason I will also have to get Vista when it is finally released. As far as those that say they use it because of all the compatible software..... If Linux (any flavor) held the market share that MS dose then it would be a different story.

[Acadia]

If it weren't for Microsoft, you probably would not be reading this! :-\

Acadia

[<DreamCatcher>]

Microsoft are what they are! Microsoft is installed by default, and for most it does a Reasonable job. Microsoft will always be the dominate OS, Linux is I’m afraid seen as something for the advanced/techie types! From my experience though this couldn't be further from the Truth.

[Toby75]

One problem I have with M$ is that they rush their products to the market without triple checking it's safety. It's a $$$ driven industry. Who cares about the safety of millions of users...right?

How many exploits have come about since the release of XP? Ask yourself

Other than that...yeah..they are the reason for us being online right now searching the vast internet the way we do.

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "How many exploits have come about since the release of XP?" }-
It required X Patches to fix them. That's why it's called Windows XP. :)
I also liked the pun for Windows Vista : Windows Hasta la Vista. :)
I love puns, much better than humor at somebody's expense.

[bktII]

I am very comfortable with my vote: Microsoft is OK.

They are a monopoly, and they do what monopolies do!

The problem is that the U.S. DOJ let them off the hook. It is indeed a different world today than when the Standard Oil Company was broken up into "the seven sisters" early in the last century. Oligopolies (or "oilgopolies"?) are not necessarily good, but they are better than a monopoly. Besides, right now they are sitting in the balcony; watching the show like the rest of us.

I believe that desktop Linux presently offers a good alternative to MS Windows. But, the climb is SOOOOO steep!

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=2

Unless anti-trust laws are enforced, I can see no substantial change. Depending on how you do your rounding (e.g., to the nearest percent), Linux doesn't exist!

bktII

[TNT]

-{ Quote: "Other than that...yeah..they are the reason for us being online right now searching the vast internet the way we do." }-What? The foundations of the Internet were born and developed on Unix. You can say that Microsoft made the computer accessible for non-technical users, certainly not that they contributed in a (technically) important way in making the Internet what it is.

[mercurie]

They are O. K. I would add my support to what two others have said here so far. :)

Unix was and still is a major player in the OS arena.

The biggest mistake MS made was IE no question. They don't need it. It is the source of one headache after another and is a drain on the company. Leave the browsers to thrird parties...well I guess they can keep Netscape :-\ ...maybe.

[thedon57]

Where would we be without it, still stuck in dos.
I love it have tried others but nothing beats microsoft.
Roll on vista, tested it and found it ok.
IE7 is a better browser.

[bktII]

Take a look at "OpenDocument Plug-In Ready For Microsoft Office" here:

http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=J1VWVA4ULTEBMQSNDBCSKHSCJUMEKJVN?articleID=187200891

[iceni60]

i don't really have an opinion on MS. i don't use any of their stuff because Linux is along way ahead atm. if MS manage to close the gap (lol) i might change back.

[TonyW]

I don't have any issues with Microsoft.

[beetlejuice69]

I don`t have any problems with MS. I don`t even think about them at all and I`ve never lost any sleep over them. ;)

[yahoo]

Microsoft is OK for me.

I did not appreciate Microsoft and Windows OS long time ago. However, my Linux experience changed my view. I installed various Linux distros on my newly bought laptop, what I got was nothing else but pains. I had to spend days and weeks just to find the proper drivers for my graphic card, wireless, touchpad, modem, and so on to make my computer just work functionally. Then, Linux ran into deadlock occasionally without obvious reason on my laptop. What a headache! I finally removed Linux on my laptop and use Windows XP as my only OS.

Yes, there are problems with Windows. But I never have had to worry about finding proper drivers for new hardwares. With proper safety configurations, my computer has not been infected by virus/malware for several years now. And Windows XP is stable enough that I seldom encounter a BSOD.

Good or Bad, I will still live with Windows. Linux is good for servers and relatively old hardwares. It is still far away from being popular on desktops for most users.

[YeOldeStonecat]

-{ Quote: "I do like microsoft for the Os's and software that they have created. If it wasn't for Microsoft home computing probably wouldn't exist in any form related to the way it is today. Business might be in a bit of a bind with out their software. I do believe that Microsoft is a bit heavy handed and they would love to be a monoply but I for one am glad they exist and do appreciate their software. And as for the people that don't like microsoft, just delete all Microsoft software off of your computer then you will be happier with the evil giants software gone." }-


:thumb: Exactly! And if it wasn't Microsoft.....it would be some other company...and people would jump on the trendy "bash them" bandwagon against that company. If it wasn't Microsoft, it would be some other company.

[Toby75]

-{ Quote: "What? The foundations of the Internet were born and developed on Unix. You can say that Microsoft made the computer accessible for non-technical users, certainly not that they contributed in a (technically) important way in making the Internet what it is." }-

just saying the number of people that use it cause of its ease of use, that's all

[manOFpeace]

"I think they're OK". So far nothing on the market to beat them. 8)

[HJam72]

I think they did an excellent job of creating software that anyone can use. Then, they had major problems with the old BSOD, so they pretty much fixed that with XP, at the expense of using more system resources when they could have just thrown in a good registry cleaner and stuck with '98 SE. They are still having security issues, which has been a problem for them since the major arrival of the internet. I think Vista will solve a lot of that (but certainly not all of it) and that they are generally headed in a smart direction there.

BUT, here's the beef:

I won't be buying VISTA because I feel that I can secure XP well enough, just like most of you, but unlike most of it's users, and I could't care less about the new visual crud that will only slow things down and that Linux would give me for free anyway.

The biggest thing I don't like about MS is the business practices, which have no real effect on me, but that, frankly, DISGUST me. They are a monopoly and a bully, which constantly seeks to destroy not only its competetition, but also any thing that it thinks it might want to compete with (or own) in the future.

Here's a little note to MS: Stop giving users default administrative priveledges, for crying out loud. Use the password method that Linux uses, PLEASE, because I just can't get used to switching back and forth between accounts.

[TOMxEU]

I like Microsoft, because I see, what they are trying to do, easy-to-use future for all.
I hate EU, which is just a bunch of *******, who are interested only in money sources.

I "like" people, who allways cry about something, that is not working, just because they do not know, how to set it up and then they say, that MS software is a piece of junk, like IE, WMP or WinXP. If they do not know to use it, they should look for other software, like Opera, VideoLAN or Linux. MS put this software to Windows, so a newbie does not have to get headache finding out, how to get video working or etc. And once this newbie releazes, that there are alternatives, he can use them at will. MS is not perfect, no one is, but they are doing their best and I admire their work, especially with all people around, who only put problems in their way.

[eyes-open]

Well, I guess I have to appreciate the way they maintained cohesion in the early days, keeping most of us onboard. What I'm less certain about is where they/we are going now - what, if any, journey are we supposed to be on now ?

Is the intention to continue to build on the Windows legacy for ever more - or do they have something truly revolutionary in mind ?

If the aim is simply to continue to build on what's already there, just adding layers, to create ever tighter integration with emerging technologies and increase universal dependence on Microsoft products - then I guess that may well become an issue. Particularly if they use their power to buy out or just block fair competition.

On the other hand, if alternative systems develop to the point where they become more universally acceptable. If others can begin to gain market share in the field of multi-media integration - then Microsoft will possibly have to re-assess its present monopolistic power base and move into a more socially sensitive one. In which case I no doubt will look a little more kindly on them. They just need to understand that what they do now, while they have the upper hand, will carry some weight on my decisions in the future.

So do I like Microsoft - not sure, come back and ask me when they've finished. :)

[Lamehand]

-{ Quote: "I like Microsoft, because I see, what they are trying to do, easy-to-use future for all.
I hate EU, which is just a bunch of *******, who are interested only in money sources." }-

That EU you so hate are the only ones standing between you and that monopolistic orientated company you so like and that 'easy-to-use future for all' means easy for them, not you or all of us.

Lamehand

[TOMxEU]

I do not need easy-to-use, but mot people does, it does suites so popular, although they offer lower security. MS is trying to create Windows instal & forget, that is a dream of every newbie.

EU claims, that integrated WMP is bad. It can be said about every software, like Linux, which integrated OpenOffice, but no need to talk about it, there have been many posts about this.

[bigc73542]

-{ Quote: "If it weren't for Microsoft, you probably would not be reading this! :-\

Acadia" }-

:thumb: :thumb: ;)

[Brian N]

I think they are ok, I'm not the biggest fan around though ;)

[wilbertnl]

Some people love to hate Microsoft, but continue using their products. ???

[incursari]

I dont say i like Microsoft, but i using both Windows XP and Linux.

[iceni60]

-{ Quote: "
I hate EU, which is just a bunch of *******, who are interested only in money sources.
" }-
i hate the EU too, more then anything else. it's been 11 years in a row now that the European Court of Auditors haven't been able to account for its spending. that means if you ask what the EU has done with all the money it gets they just shrug their shoulders and say "i don't know". it's absolutely corrupt to the core, never mind that it's undemocratic.

[nadirah]

NVM its just the beginning, many more years down the road you'll see their technology at a stage where it should be many times better than what it is at present, but its very hard to say for sure.
And MAYBE there will be less security problems hopefully... I think what comes AFTER vista may be the one that is near-perfect( 90%)...

[ASpace]

I like Microsoft ! I am their fan and most of the products on my computer are their -> only IE6, OE6 , MS Word , MS Works , only WMP10 . . . . . .

They have always provided me with excellent support and they do love their real clients (with genuie products) and they do a lot !!! :-*

I also agree with one of the opinions that Microsoft is now a giant company, really big ,and it is sometimes difficult to control such a company . Also it is difficult to have a <live> conversation with them because you really don't know who is who there with the big players but there are no perfect things on that planet :)

[furballi]

Quality software, most of the time. 8.5/10. Unfortunately, I don't think Vista will be very popular. Expect to see a replacement for Vista in 2010.

[ASpace]

-{ Quote: " , I don't think Vista will be very popular. ." }-

Me , too

[The Phantom]

Did like them until their April update MS06_015 wrecked my HP laptop. Hours on the phone to barely English speaking help who knew nothing about the problem MS had created. Finally they emailed a supposed reg fix that made things worse. Further phone calls ended in "Well you will have to speak to tech support, US $50" . Needless to say I did not pay. One reformat later I have turned off auto updates and blackballed that patch, deactivated WGA and wait till a test forum has tested their bleedin patches before I install any again.

To my personal knowledge two other friends putas were also affected and my lady's entire school puta system had to be fixed.

Apart from that they are OK;D

[Dina]

I dont like it but I use it. I dont have a choice, Im too deeply integrated to windows and dont have the time to learn something else.

[progress]

I think they're okay. :)

[Az7]

Yea, I do like Microsoft and their excellent products, excellent customer support. Their products are better than any others on the market. They have attained one of the highest level of professionalism. 8)

[Creer]

-{ Quote: "I think they're okay. :)" }-
+1 :thumb:

[Wai_Wai]

-{ Quote: "Microsoft made a misstep in my opinion, when they integrated IE into Windows. Other than that, I've enjoyed using Windows for a long time. It gets me where I want to go." }-

Very bad mistakes which causes a lot of security problems. :'( :-\ :-X >:( :(

[tipstir]

Kind of hard to say? I say just keep on making error in judgments Microsoft and I'll be in business forever!

[Gullible Jones]

I don't like their business tactics at all, but I have a certain respect for their software; Windows NT is very well designed, even if the default security settings (pre-Vista) leave quite a lot wanting.

[Beavenburt]

I do find it ironic that the majority in these forums appear to like MS even though they feel the need to load their PCs with anti this and that, HIPS etc to stop the OS (produced by MS) from getting infected. Strange indeed.
Personally I don't like MS. I don't like any company that has a monopoly over every other. I also find their OS's too restrictive.

[Meriadoc]

Trouble with Windows NT is what's been left behind over time. So many people, programmers, have worked on the code, Windows architecture and internals that things get left unrevised and in evidently Windows slows down. Windows has some strange idiosyncrasies in places eg checking and rechecking, and then again rechecking something that it seems crazy sometimes.

Do I like MS?..with age I've mellowed.;D

[funkydude]

I wasn't a fan of MS, but this year has changed my mind, first win7, now MSE, and soon the new MS office with a free version, it's really looking good since good ol' Bill gave up he's commanding rights :P

[HJO]

I'm not sure... :-\

[Eice]

-{ Quote: "I do find it ironic that the majority in these forums appear to like MS even though they feel the need to load their PCs with anti this and that, HIPS etc to stop the OS (produced by MS) from getting infected. Strange indeed." }-
Nothing ironic about that, seeing how it isn't Microsoft's fault. If Linux commanded any real market share, it'd be the exact same scenario as well.

[Page42]

Microsoft is fine by me. Windows is one of the coolest things I've seen in my lifetime.

[Gullible Jones]

-{ Quote: "Nothing ironic about that, seeing how it isn't Microsoft's fault. If Linux commanded any real market share, it'd be the exact same scenario as well." }-

Depends on the distro I think. Debian (no MAC) and Ubuntu (stupid sudo setup with five-minute nopasswd timeout) for instance would probably be a lot more subject to such issues than the likes of OpenSuSE (no stupid sudo setup) or Fedora (SELinux by default).

[Eice]

-{ Quote: "Depends on the distro I think. Debian (no MAC) and Ubuntu (stupid sudo setup with five-minute nopasswd timeout) for instance would probably be a lot more subject to such issues than the likes of OpenSuSE (no stupid sudo setup) or Fedora (SELinux by default)." }-
No offense, but the Linux guys miss the point once more.

It's not the technology; if it were, Windows is just as impregnable. It's the people using that technology.

[Judge Dee]

After installing Ubuntu 9.04 to dual boot with Vista about a month ago, I've become a Linux addict. This time around partitioning was a breeze, installing needed codecs was a breeze. I haven't booted Windows once.
Yet, I will always like Windows. I think that they do a decent job supplying millions(?) of people worldwide with an OS.
I also kind of miss playing with security programs. :)

[The Hammer]

-{ Quote: "I do find it ironic that the majority in these forums appear to like MS even though they feel the need to load their PCs with anti this and that, HIPS etc to stop the OS (produced by MS) from getting infected. Strange indeed.
Personally I don't like MS. I don't like any company that has a monopoly over every other. I also find their OS's too restrictive." }-
Not so strange. Any OS in such widespread use would likely require a this and that to avoid infection.

[the Tester]

I think MS is ok.
MS annoys me sometimes but I can't honestly say that I dislike a company when I'm using one of their operating systems.

I don't use some MS programs because I found better alternatives; gmail instead of Hotmail is one example.

With the feedback on MSE and my experience of late with IE8 it appears that MS may be making progress on improvements to some programs.

[catnotspam]

awosom software
cool as why not

[catnotspam]

i love the windows and MS OFFICE
how will i work with out windows

[Nick Rhodes]

-{ Quote: "Not so strange. Any OS in such widespread use would likely require a this and that to avoid infection." }-

Not required.
There is the alternate option of fixing the OS.


MS bring out a some great things (Direct X, .net, Visual Studio, SQL Server), a lot of average (maybe bloated but works OK eg MS Office) and a few disasters (Windows ME).

Overall I like MS products.

[mysterious_lolita]

i like Microsoft. I am using on my PC XP Series Pro and on my laptop Vista, i actually want to say that I don't like how Vista works, it uses a lot of resources and when my laptop starts, it stays several minutes to log all the settings. The Vista interface is nice with transparent windows, but i think that i'm used more with XP probably. Anyway, Microsoft is really ok because it has a user friendly interface and everyone can deal with it. Nevertheless, I worked a while ago at a company who used Linux and it was ok also that one...i heard that Linux is more protected from viruses , is that true?

[Securon]

Microsoft is one magnificent marketing machine! But like many large companies the message losses it's true intent,from time to time,campaign to campaign,product to product. It's the O.S. with the largest market share and corresponding clout. Sometimes it losses it's Vision and Intent,example Vista! Now having used Vista for over a year I can state with complete conviction that it's Superior in every aspect to X.P. Pro. So Windows 7 is Vista done with Vision and Clarity. Time will Tell, or the teacher will be brought a NEW APPLE! Sincerely...Securon