bitdefender 10 beta

[the extremist]

look
http://news.bitdefender.com/NW229-en--BitDefender-Generation-10-Enters-Beta.html
and http://beta.bitdefender.com/login.php
bye

[IBK]

BitDefender Internet Security 10 Beta kit will be available on May 15, 2006.

[RejZoR]

Yup, registered this morning. Can't wait to try it out and see if they implimented stuff that i recommended to them.

[chia]

Yup, I'm psyched too. Be interesting to see if they've made changes to the update process.

[tobacco]

Could someone list what engines BitDefender uses in version 9 and also this version, beta 10.Also, any conflicts with other security software, e.g.- Spysweeper.Thanks!.

[JerryM]

Bit Defender is without a doubt one of the top AVs. I hope that they either get it good enough so that it takes care of trojans and such as good as KAV, and the same with spyware. If that is the case it will be a keeper. If not I hope it is more compatible with ATs and ASs than V9.

Those incompatibilities caused me to ditch it.

Jerry

[RejZoR]

Well judging by Jotti screens it does an excellent job. I hardly ever see it miss anything (same by throwing stuff i find at it). They've added rootkit detection and HTTP scanning in v10 too. Certanly very interesting. I wonder if they did anything about sluggish scanning reported by some ppl.

[NAMOR]

Anyone got any screen shots?;D

[David007]

actually i have never tested this software before, but i heard the resourcess was not so good in vers:9 and i think its weird that they did not mention something about Resourcess in this new vers:10?

[tobacco]

small block chevy?.

[Albinoni]

{QUOTE-> actually i have never tested this software before, but i heard the resourcess was not so good in vers:9 and i think its weird that they did not mention something about Resourcess in this new vers:10? <-QUOTE}

Prob not as bad as Nortons ;D I used BD 9 Pro on a PII PC and never had any hickups so I'm sure it will work well with your AMD and P4 beasts.

I loved BD and highly reccomend it but yet again I also use NOD32 and love that as well, probably one of the most lightest on resources.

[David007]

But maybe they worked to have less resourcess in this vers:10 ?
does anyone know something about it? or emailed them and asked about Resourcess?

[pykko]

registered now... They have no NOD32 listed on: "Which Internet Protection software are u using now? " :(

Hope the new BD 10 will be an important improvement. Nice to hear they have HTTP scanning.

[WSFuser]

HTTP scanning? thats good enough; ill test too.

[TAP]

I'll try it, but BitDefender is always so slow for my machine, both on-demand and on-access scanning, hope HTTP scanner will not make it even tooo slow for me. ::)

[David007]

someone correct me if i am wrong. the http-scan can not slow down your machine, it can only slow down while you surfing on Internet, Firefox or whatever you use!
And the big question is about resourcess if they did something about it. anyone that has more information?

[tiagozt]

I believe it can change of PC to PC...
F-Secure is impossible in my computer. Slow down AND brake sometimes.
BitDefender is very light.
NOD32 very light too.
Kaspersky slow down too but less than F-Secure for example...

I don't understand it sometimes...

[David007]

well maybe bitdefender is not slowing down the machine so much, but its not so light eather.
i hope they have fixed in this new beta a little lighter AV.
and what does this mean "improvements to the proactive detection module"
i thought that they are using hive and not proactive detection ?

[RejZoR]

I wonder what changes they'll make to engine and interface.
That damn BD9 restarting on every (hourly!) update was annoying like hell.

[David007]

i dont know if they changed about that,
because i emailed them about this. But anyone has any idéa what this mean:
what does this mean "improvements to the proactive detection module"
I thought they using hive?
and another thing i am curious at is resourcess?

[Eliot]

{QUOTE-> I wonder what changes they'll make to engine and interface.
That damn BD9 restarting on every (hourly!) update was annoying like hell. <-QUOTE}

That is exactly what prompted my choice not to purchase the AV @ version 9.

[Eldar]

{QUOTE-> But anyone has any idéa what this mean:
what does this mean "improvements to the proactive detection module"
I thought they using Hive? <-QUOTE}I think they mean improvement to the Hive, maybe to give it another name. {QUOTE-> and another thing i am curious at is resourcess? <-QUOTE}That's the same question a mod at the <snip> posted. ::)
I'm also curious about the resources and of course the improvements.
Will give it a testrun on release. 8)

edited to remove link - Detox

[chia]

Bah, they just changed the date for the beta kit to May 16 now. Guess we gotta wait another day for the fun to begin. :(

[arthaszen]

5 minutes guys, not a hole day :D ...we will upload it on the server and will go home to get some sleep ;) it have been a long day...

have fun :)

[arthaszen]

see you on the beta bug submission list ;)

[chia]

{QUOTE-> 5 minutes guys, not a hole day :D ...we will upload it on the server and will go home to get some sleep ;) it have been a long day...

have fun :) <-QUOTE}
arthaszen, you sound like you work for Softwin. I was able to find this on the server..."bitdefender_isecurity_v10_beta_preview". I assume this is the correct file??

[RejZoR]

Care to explain? ???

[chia]

{QUOTE-> Care to explain? ??? <-QUOTE}

Not sure who are you referring to?

Anyway, the beta folder on the server where I found that file is no longer there :-\ . Guess it wasn't the correct one. Back to eagerly awaiting again.

[Ciubaka]

Can u tell us on which server? couse i busted my ftp's searching for it. i want at least the server, and i'll monitor myself
thanks

[chia]

{QUOTE-> Can u tell us on which server? couse i busted my ftp's searching for it. i want at least the server, and i'll monitor myself
thanks <-QUOTE}
Sorry, guess I should have included that. There was a beta folder in here but it has since been removed...http://download.bitdefender.com/windows/desktop/internet_security/

I haven't even looked on the ftp servers.


EDIT: Just checked ftp server and the file I talked about is there. Not sure if it's what they plan to release though. ftp://80.86.106.20/pub/windows/desktop/internet_security/beta/

[Ciubaka]

thanks, i downloaded it, they put it up again. good luck with the bugs :)

[chia]

Now I just got to wait for the bug reporting section on the site to become active ;). Also waiting for an update to come through to see if it is now truly "silent". Some of the GUI changes are nice.

[RejZoR]

Kinda dissapointed. I was expecting alot more. I hope they at least remade the updater. Otherwise it appears i'll stick with Standard edition. IS edition has way too many modules that i don't need (Parental,Antispam and partially firewall).
On-Demand scan speed isn't changed (same as BD9).
Weird thing is that i don't see Outbreak Detection under Virus Shield. BD9 had that bthingie but not BD10. Heh...

[chia]

Nothing has changed with the updater, the GUI still has to shut down and restart. That was a letdown. :ouch:

[RejZoR]

Haven't had chance to see the updater yet (in update interval state, not manual update), but does it restart just tray icon or does it also show taskbar "button" while restarting? Coz i could live with just tray icon, but also taskbar is annoying like hell. Makes me wonder what the hell have they actually improved? A bit different GUI skin and preset sliders for settings of each shield. And thats where innovations end.
I expected at least improved updater and "Ask" mode for On-Access detections, not just predefined. On-Demand mode has this option but not On-Access. Have no clue why not. I also don't know where are they hidding HTTP scanner. Haven't seen it at all. If this is truly THE BitDefender 10 Beta that we're suppose to test today (16th May), than i probably won't even bother. There's nothing new to test anyway.::)

EDIT:
Omg, HTTP scanner is a part of Parental Control. So BD10 Standard won't have it. Yey, it will be heavily crippled version this time around...

EDIT2:
Oh my god. Updater hasn't changed at all. If this is it, then i'm greatly dissapointed. Will wait till "official" release of BD10 beta test (it's 16th May and still nothing), but i'm already having bad taste in my mouth about this "whole new product".

[arthaszen]

Hmmm...i'm back, after a looong sleep.

Let's seee:
0. I speak not as an Bitdefender oficial, but like a user like you (ok, with a lot more inside -but public- info;)

1. Guys, chill!!!! It's just a beta, it's purpose it is not to amaze you and to furfill your wildest dreams, but to give you the oportunity to help us create a product that you will enjoy.

2. If we release now a new, unsificient tested update module, that would potentially affect our entire beta campaign. So we preferred to add the changes a little bit later , after the product will became more stable

3. Our main priority was tu assure you a safe testing, so our efforts wore directed towards the antivirus mechanism

[arthaszen]

dude, where did you see the http scanner in the parental module ? :))

[RejZoR]

It's a matter of simple testing with samples. Warning dialog states that Parental Control blocked "this" sample. It also shows local path, not URL, but it's certanly a HTTP scan. Otherwise it wouldn't check inside archives (Virus Shield doesn't do that by default).

[arthaszen]

what does this 'sample' is ?

an infected file?

a application that connects to the net and/or attempts to send a file

...for example?

[RejZoR]

Malware sample (malware file if you want)...

[Benvan45]

It's amazing how quickly a lot of 'experts' jump to their gun and start shooting at a product, released hours ago as a Beta.....
Like it was said by arthaszen, try to evaluate this for a while and post constructive complaints and don't get all jumpy!

Rome wasn't built in one day either.....remember?

[mikesu]

Everything is OK? :-[

[arthaszen]

malware you say....hmm i was expecting a more detailed answer from a Security - OP :))

sonny, when you say malware is like saying "sports" when i ask you if its fotbal or basketbal

viruses are malware, spyware ar malware , rootkits are malware , trojans are malware and a lot other examaples...one big happy family


so try to be more specific, give me more details and less bs ..to help me get your problem fixed

[arthaszen]

mikesu - NO, it is not OK...in this PREVIEW of Beta firewall is NOT enabled


But don't worry it will be ready tonight.

Thank you for your interest;)


P.S. You scared me with your drawings..i thought they were real

[RejZoR]

{QUOTE-> It's amazing how quickly a lot of 'experts' jump to their gun and start shooting at a product, released hours ago as a Beta.....
Like it was said by arthaszen, try to evaluate this for a while and post constructive complaints and don't get all jumpy!

Rome wasn't built in one day either.....remember? <-QUOTE}

I ain't an expert but i have lots of testing experience (especially in AV sector).
Shooting at it? Hell yeah!? All i can see is a badly working installer (i can't even test modules properly), new skin and a bit redesigned menus/presets. And thats it. I usually see a lot more in such "major" updates. Lots of stuff which were the most criticized (namely updater the most) are still exactly the same.
I sure hope this is just an early preview of BD10, rather than latest beta meant for actual testing. Still waiting for that notification mail to sum up the conclusion. Or will they again move the date for 1 day...::)

@arthaszen
Does it really matter? I could be throwing EICAR at it and wouldn't make a difference apart from being completely benign. It was a small set of ITW samples.

[arthaszen]

if it is as you say you should receive a Virus Alert (..file x was detected etc)

instead of a Parental Control alert

----
a lot of talk and no usefull info
----
post a print screen and it will be enough
----

dude, read my previous post about the update module, it will be exactly as we promised, but it coould not be integrated in a instable version of Beta because it could jepardise the update procedure if it would contain a bug ==> affecting the entire betai campaign

[RejZoR]

A lot of talk and no useful info? Ever tried reproducing it? It's not really a rocket science considering i don't even have access to BD10 specs and closed info.
It's just a simple trial and error stuff.

Good enough?
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8438/httpscn13da.th.png (http://img130.imageshack.us/my.php?image=httpscn13da.png)

I've used EICAR.zip on non secure link for stuff shown on picture (as you can see in URL bar)...

EDIT:
Also will BD10 Standard be released at same time or much later? I remember BD9 Standard being released loooooooooooooong after BD9 IS and BD9 Pro were released.

[mikesu]

{QUOTE-> Everything is OK? :-
Last edited by Bubba : Today at 06:44 AM. Reason: uploaded pic locally\removed offensive word[ <-QUOTE}

I apologize Bubba.
but this "words" were included in my BitDefender 10 Internet Security - BETA PREVIEW. I don't know why and I think that arthaszen doesn't know too... ;)

[arthaszen]

Perfect !! RejZor, i understand your confusion now.

You should have told me that you were trying to download an infected file.

This feature will be available also in the standard product, don't worry

...ok, next issue ?

[arthaszen]

mikesu, you have a corrupted kit...someone played a joke on you and modified your ini files

[RejZoR]

Well, from design standpoint i'm kinda used to "Disconnect" button for HTTP scanner, or at least notification that HTTP Virus Shield (you don't have the name yet :P ) blocked file on [URL]. BD10 appears to cache the files on HDD and scan them regualar way (most of other AVs with such feature do that on the fly in memory). I mean it shoud be clearly stated that it's a HTTP detection...

[arthaszen]

BD catch it on the fly and does NOT let it reach the memory :)

Coming from network adaptor (Internet for ex) files arrive first on your hard drive . Files DO NOT transit your memory before arriving there.
If some av products say that they catch it in memory, before arriving on the disc...that is the most foolish afirmation (and any experienced technician can tell you that :)))

You will ask:
1. what is the difference between webscan and the usual virus shield?

The answer is that web scan feature is usefull for those who are sure that their station (house+backyard) are clean and they only watch the incoming connections(their doors)

[RejZoR]

It's already past 18:00 CET time and still nothing. Romania is somewhere in the same timeline so it's weird for me. Are you guys even planing to release it today?
Otherwise i'll install back my regular BD9 Standard.

[arthaszen]

yeap, today for sure..but i don't now a precise hour

[RealResults]

arthaszen,

No offense but as a licensed user of BD9 Standard and with an interest in Beta 10 and this thread, I for one would like to know exactly who you are. You claim not to be a Bitdefender official but are responding to posts as “we” and “our” implying you are with Bitdefender. The following quote I find evasive, leads to confusion and perhaps misrepresentation, and lends you no credibility in my opinion.


{QUOTE->
0. I speak not as an Bitdefender oficial, but like a user like you (ok, with a lot more inside -but public- info;)

<-QUOTE}

[pykko]

well, I"m from Romania, RejZor! Time is 19.48 here. No beta yet. :( But your comments on this issue made me reconsider a little bit testing it. :( Hope the official beta will have morre features. From the screenshot there is no improvement to alert window when detecting a virus. I thought they'll make one window with action selection, an interactive one with Clean, Rename, Delete, Quarantine options. :(

[RejZoR]

I thought the same. Btw you're just +1 hour ahead ;)

[arthaszen]

{QUOTE-> well, I"m from Romania, RejZor! Time is 19.48 here. No beta yet. :( But your comments on this issue made me reconsider a little bit testing it. :( Hope the official beta will have morre features. From the screenshot there is no improvement to alert window when detecting a virus. I thought they'll make one window with action selection, an interactive one with Clean, Rename, Delete, Quarantine options. :( <-QUOTE}



you'll have the chance to post it as a feature request on the beta testing site ;) don't forget to do that

[pykko]

yeah.
Are you still cooking it? ;D

[Brian N]

Didn't they just release bd9 a few months ago?

[pykko]

it was 9.5 2 months ago as far as I know.... BD9 is from August 2005 as far as I know. :)

[Brian N]

Ah ok. Expect BD19 in 2 years then ;)

[pykko]

yeah...lol, many versions with no important updates. :(
I like NOD32 for this...less versions, but important improvements and many new features. BD engaged in this running of releasing every year a new version just to say they are doing something, but it's not the essential thing for them. :)

[RejZoR]

Ok, who are they kidding!? DO they want us to beta test their stuff or not. Obviously they don't. It's end of May 16th and still nothing (it's almost 23:00 in romania). Haven't seen such a mess in my whole beta testing "carrer".

[mrhero]

{QUOTE-> Haven't seen such a mess in my whole beta testing "carrer". <-QUOTE}
Haha, you are professional beta tester. This T-shirt is for you : http://www.offlinetshirts.com/cgi-bin/ol/comp/compgeek.cgi/compgeek/atshirtnexus.12133176
;D

[pykko]

well, 22.56 actually RejZoR. ;D Perhaps they went to sleep already. :P

[RejZoR]

I'd prefer T-shirt with text "Will beta test for food" ;D

[controler]

They still have 8 hours and 5 min to post it by USA time ;)

[X-Spider]

are you 100% sure its from 16 May and not the old one?
because i think its from 15 may?

[RejZoR]

Judging by the CRC32 it's the same old installer...

[X-Spider]

wow i just installed it but it using so much memory-resourcess MB more then 35 :'( , and the Icon-GUI still restarts every update>:( .
Someone should emailed them about these 2 Issue about respurcess-memory and the restarts Icon-GUI to fix them!

[controler]

Doesn't look like the May 16th Beta posting date is going to be met?

[RejZoR]

This is ridiculous and i'm not gonna even test it now. I'm always professional about testing, but if they aren't then fine. I don't care either.::)

[pykko]

well, I think I'll do the same RejZoR. They are fooling us. :(

[X-Spider]

give them time they are trying to do their best to improve and release the products!
This is what they say: "It has been Technical delay, and we are doing our best but a new date will be available when the beta will be released"
and it wont help if we complain here, if you have a question email them instead.

[RejZoR]

Latest News

2006-05-04
BitDefender Internet Security 10 Beta kit will be available on May 16, 2006. You will be notified via e-mail in regards to the download location of the kit.

This is what it says on ther beta webpage (we know which date is today). I mailed them and got no answer yet. I don't get it, why they've placed a date if they aren't ready::)

[Sputnik]

You people complain too much, it's a beta release not your life saving medical operation... :ouch:

[RejZoR]

No, but it shows their level of professionalism. ::)
And some of us take beta testing serious more than anything else. And since i'm applied with nearly life time license for BitDefender, that certanly bugs me.
After all i'll be using the product which i tested. Thats why i'm acting like it's about my life saving medical operation...

[Sputnik]

{QUOTE-> No, but it shows their level of professionalism. ::) <-QUOTE}
Nonsense in my opinion. Maybe they found some late "show stoppers" and wanted to fix them first. In my opinion the first KAV 6 alpha's and beta's were horrible quality, but did people complain about their level of professionalism then? No because it had a Kaspersky label on it... :dry:

[Benvan45]

{QUOTE-> No, but it shows their level of professionalism. ::)
And some of us take beta testing serious more than anything else. And since i'm applied with nearly life time license for BitDefender, that certanly bugs me.
After all i'll be using the product which i tested. Thats why i'm acting like it's about my life saving medical operation... <-QUOTE}

It's about time you change your so called 'life saving medical operation' and switch to a product that does better all along, instead of nagging yourself all the time!

[RejZoR]

Then they should notify registrered beta users about their problems, not still showing it as "will be available on 16th May" ::)
Thats the whole nonsense here...

[Sputnik]

I don't really understand all the "fuss" people are making. BitDefender is a quality product, no doubt about that. But now they are delayed releasing their beta version and people directly doubt professionalism.

Can somebody name a company who never makes a mistake, never delayed something? I don't mean to offence people, but this looks all very weird in my eyes.

[Benvan45]

{QUOTE-> I don't really understand all the "fuss" people are making. BitDefender is a quality product, no doubt about that. But now they are delayed releasing their beta version and people directly doubt professionalism.

Can somebody name a company who never makes a mistake, never delayed something? I don't mean to offence people, but this looks all very weird in my eyes. <-QUOTE}

I second that completely....... it's amazing how people always nag about things like that.

[RejZoR]

You don't get it do you? They gave a date, they move the date for 1 day. They still haven't deliver it 1 day after the 1 day extension. They could at least say sorry we have problems, won't be released till <enter_any_date_you_want> (with few days reserve).
Why the hell they even bothered to give a date half a month in advance?
Maybe you don't care but i do.::)

[Benvan45]

It's not, that I don't care, but what's the use getting all excited? It'll be there when it's ready. Same with F-Prot and Nod, waiting.....waiting........waiting, but I'll get it when it's there. I know that people mail those companies every day, asking why the new version isn't ready yet and get all nasty etc.
Same about the weather. I know there's a group of people always phoning the weatherman, why on earth he's lying about the forecast. You'll be amazed.

" Patience is a virtue, have it if you can. It's seldom in a woman and never in a man."

[RejZoR]

I got F-Prot 4 to test when i was promised so (don't ask anything, it's internal closed test)... ::)

[Benvan45]

That's great....and will it be a 'nice' one?

[X-Spider]

Rejzor wait for their mail, they have alot of work to do right now!
Maybe they found some bugs to remove or something, they emailed me back and told that it has been some Technical Delay they will fix it, and it will be a new date for the beta!

[bigc73542]

Trust me guys there is life beyond antivirus programs. :-\

[controler]

The antimaleware world will never be ahead of the maleware.

Even if a great mind created a program with human insite, I am affraid it would have to include hardware as well. The program would have to creat an image of the nasty for the cloned attached brain with two eyeballs to view.

Oh sorry, I am off on just another G Wells moment;D

One thing I am not sure of is that I wonder if along along the BIT10 team was going to contact testers via mail and did not expect they would keep clicking refresh on the beta site?

controler

[RejZoR]

If there is date for testing i'm there. If there is a deadline for bugs submission i always submit them before the deadline. Yes, i'm very precise. Maybe other should be too...

[Inspector Clouseau]

{QUOTE-> That's great....and will it be a 'nice' one? <-QUOTE}

Yes. ::)

[RejZoR]

Lol. Of course it will be, otherwise they wouldn't even bother releasing it in a near future ;Isn't it like this for all products in the world? :P

[Durad]

DreamTeam is working on the new F-prot 4 :)

[RejZoR]

Geez, finally. Let me announce that Softwin (finally) released BitDefender IS 10 BETA1. Just head to www.bitdefender.com, login as beta tester and you'll get a download link. Amen.

[Inspector Clouseau]

{QUOTE-> Geez, finally. <-QUOTE}
;D ;D ;D These times must be something similar to Christmas, New Year and Easter for our RejZoR boy - Bitdefender Beta, Kaspersky also updated, F-Prot Beta gosh! ;D ;D ;D Action :o ;D :D

[Sputnik]

@RejZoR
Yep, just received the e-mail.

@Inspector Clouseau
But I have Trend Micro's, brand new heuristic patterns and engine ;D

[RejZoR]

Yeah Inspector, i'm pretty busy in these days hehe :) ;D

[X-Spider]

wow it using more resources then the old version9 , the beta is using more then 50 mb memory???
please all email them about this, if we all complain maybe they will change this
to use much less memory???

Forgott to say one thing i really liked and they made it good only 1 thing is that the Icon-GUI does not restarts everytime when Bitdefender updates/upgrades:) yes that was the only thing i was happy about, but nothing else:o

[Sputnik]

Don't worry, the memory usage will drop. The product still contains lots of "incomplete" code. Like the GUI for example, only when the memory usage remains high in a far later statium we need to worry, right now we don't :)

[RejZoR]

That however doesn't mean we shouldn't notify them. Otherwise they'll think we don't care about that...
In beta testing there is no assuming. If you see something unusual, you report that.

[Sputnik]

Sure, but I only explained why... :)

[X-Spider]

{QUOTE-> That however doesn't mean we shouldn't notify them. Otherwise they'll think we don't care about that... <-QUOTE}

Thanks, thats exctually what i tried to tell all the time.
because customers complained about having antispyware on standard and pro version and they made it, and if many customers also complain about resourcess they will maybe do something about it:o
so all pls email them.
By the way Rejzor did you see about the Icon-GUI it does not restart every update/upgrade? , happy about that!;D

[Ciubaka]

Has anyone tried to submit files in the "Submit Bugs: section of beta.bitdefender? it does not work, it says invalid file type, regardless of the file type i use

[Sputnik]

My first impression with this beta is quite positive. It's certainly still very rough on the edges, but since it's the first beta that doesn't mean anything yet. I really like the small changes in the GUI.

I don't have too much experience with their "Internet Security" since I used the "Standard" instead. But I think version 10 really has potential, and it's a good move BitDefender is offering public beta testing now too.

Let's test everybody and report bugs and wishes. In my eyes BitDefender (Standard) is and remains the best price/performance product on the market.

[X-Spider]

i am not sure but i think that the Icon-GUI does not restart every update or am i wrong about it?
and yeah we all should email them about resourcess, its killing my PC:(

And no the Icon-GUI still restart´s, it is there but while it updates/upgrades i tried to download Eicar-test file and it did not blocked, so it means that the Icon is restarting again every update ohh :(

[RejZoR]

Yup, updater is not restarting tray icon anymore. This restarting was so annoying and also caused major slowdowns while playing CounterStrike:Source because whole GUI had to reload. Now i was playing with BD10 and it updated in between. Didn't even know it did update.;D

[X-Spider]

{QUOTE-> Yup, updater is not restarting tray icon anymore. This restarting was so annoying and also caused major slowdowns while playing CounterStrike:Source because whole GUI had to reload. Now i was playing with BD10 and it updated in between. Didn't even know it did update.;D <-QUOTE}

But what about resourcess:( it using so much:'(
50 to 60 mb memory it using with all these process CPU, and has 8 of them, its spam in CPU they should use only 2 or 3 and highest using 15 MB memory or even less ?, has anyone complained and get a email back about this maybe???

[mrhero]

{QUOTE-> Has anyone tried to submit files in the "Submit Bugs: section of beta.bitdefender? it does not work, it says invalid file type, regardless of the file type i use <-QUOTE}
Same here. I can't send a Screenshot.

[arthaszen]

1. problem solved with file submission, try again in 30 min

2. restarting problem during update is partially solved, i belive you saw the improvements, in later releases will be much mooore:)

3.sputnik gave a reasonable explication for performance issues; there is a lot of new technology introduced in it and it will take a while until we will optimize it; but we need your help to do that...a beta campaign it is not a promotion campaign, but a solution to obtain it

[RejZoR]

{QUOTE-> But what about resourcess:( it using so much:'(
50 to 60 mb memory it using with all these process CPU, and has 8 of them, its spam in CPU they should use only 2 or 3 and highest using 15 MB memory or even less ?, has anyone complained and get a email back about this maybe??? <-QUOTE}

I sent the report of unusually high memory usage, though i have 1,5 GB of RAM so whole BitDefender altogether is just a poop in the ocean. Though users with just 512MB of RAM might not agree on this one...

[pykko]

my first impression: I've downloaded the installer and now I'm enjoying the installation process. ::) 25 minutes till now and BD is not willing to finish to fast. If that's the installation process then I don't even want to test the product itself. :(

EDIT: U don't even have the option to skip the update process during install. Awfull. :(

EDIT 2: Now I finally finished installing it..... seems really good regarding all the bad things I've heard about it. My internet connection is fine also. ;D

[RejZoR]

You can deselect Updating during install time.
Also components seem to be weird. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't so i don't even know whether it's because of my PC or is BD10 buggy like this. Heh.

[pykko]

don't worry RejZoR. The same here..... the antivirus shield isn't working properly, I check something in settings and BD performs as if it wasn't checked. :(

[RejZoR]

My updater is constantly getting stuck on 100% like this:

178653

I've already reported this so no need for you to do the same. I'm just curious if anyone else is experiencing then same. See the the time when update was made and when i made a screenshot. It's 5 minutes delay in which it should jump back to 0% and show update status summary.
Kinda annoying, though updater seems to do it's job anyway.

[Rzeba]

Yeah but if you have on Silent Update then you shouldnt worry about that, it also happends to me!
But i've noticed on C:\vsserv.log the filesize is 140mb space and i deleted it and it starts from 1kB to get higher and higher again.
i could not delete it but first i Disabled the Real Time Protection.
I have already subimit this Bug about vsserv.log to them,
has anyone subimit them the vsserv and bdss is using 50 resources, and the rest together using 15 mb ?

[Chubb]

It seems that BD 10 will use the old UI rather than a new UI...:(

THe old UI cannot be enlarged.

[RejZoR]

vsserv.log is not really a bug if you ask me. I won't go opening it since it's overkill but as far as i can tell it's log file about whats going on under the hood.
Pretty much just a debug feature.

[pykko]

I've updated once and no problem here....

[Chubb]

{QUOTE-> My updater is constantly getting stuck on 100% like this:

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/9769/bdupdaterbug12vg.png

I've already reported this so no need for you to do the same. I'm just curious if anyone else is experiencing then same. See the the time when update was made and when i made a screenshot. It's 5 minutes delay in which it should jump back to 0% and show update status summary.
Kinda annoying, though updater seems to do it's job anyway. <-QUOTE}

I don't have BD10 beta installed, but I found that something is interfering with the BD update. I am using BD9 Standard on-demand and have disabled both the resident shield and the automatic update. I have NOD32 running in the background. BD9 on-demand is a backup. When BD is doing an update with NOD32 running, I will get an error something like MD5 error and the updated was stopped mid-way. Turning off NOD32 will get the BD update as smooth as silk. It seems that if something is monitoring in the background, the BD update will not be successful.

[Benvan45]

{QUOTE-> I don't have BD10 beta installed, but I found that something is interfering with the BD update. I am using BD9 Standard on-demand and have disabled both the resident shield and the automatic update. I have NOD32 running in the background. BD9 on-demand is a backup. When BD is doing an update with NOD32 running, I will get an error something like MD5 error and the updated was stopped mid-way. Turning off NOD32 will get the BD update as smooth as silk. It seems that if something is monitoring in the background, the BD update will not be successful. <-QUOTE}

You shouldn't have the two scanners active together, you're asking for trouble. That's why they conflict. It has been said so often!

[Chubb]

{QUOTE-> You shouldn't have the two scanners active together, you're asking for trouble. That's why they conflict. It has been said so often! <-QUOTE}

I NEVER said that I am having two scanners active together. BD9 Standard is on demand only. I have DISABLED the resident shield, the automatic update and all other resident components. I update BD9 manually. The only one scanner that is active in the background is NOD32.

I have been using Sophos (On-demand) and NOD32 (Active) and got no problems.

[Benvan45]

Ok, sorry....

[controler]

Screwed up my system so bad I had to reformat.

[Rasheed187]

First impression was a bad one, it freezed my system on startup, so I had to use system restore, of course I installed it on a virtual machine, so no big deal. ;)

[pykko]

for me it started very well, even faster than I expected. And my system is OK now. But I've used it only one day...then back on my sweet NOD. ;D ;D

[WSFuser]

i finally got around to testing the beta. i wish it wouldnt install all the modules, but i just disabled them afterwards.

like ppl noted, the gui isnt changed much if any.

in the few minutes since i installed it, no problems have risen. hopefully itll stay like that.

[RejZoR]

BETA 2 available for download :)

[19monty64]

with bd10 out, anyone know what to become of bd8?

[mrhero]

{QUOTE-> with bd10 out, anyone know what to become of bd8? <-QUOTE}
I think BD9 will be free at that time.

[19monty64]

great but I hear a lot of negative about 9, and I just found 8...AVG, Avast & AntiVir drove me that direction....I can't buy if trial/freeware version cause problems!

[mrhero]

Don't use Bitdefender free as your main AV, because free BD doesn't have active monitor. Use Antivir or Avast as main AV and BD free for on demand scans.

[19monty64]

Is AntiVir7 a beta, because I've had no luck @ all with anything beta! If so is 6 still available?

[RejZoR]

Ne, AntiVir 7 is already final.

[19monty64]

Thanx for the help and sorry for getting off topic, I think I'll go for BD9 until 10 is un-beta'd, ciao4now&thanxagain!

[ronbo613]

{QUOTE-> great but I hear a lot of negative about 9 <-QUOTE}Been using BD9 for some time now, no problems I can see. I uninstalled Spybot and a couple other spyware progs because since installing BitDefender, along with Zone Alarm and Adaware, my computer has been well protected, BD9 catching a number of viruses and trojans.
I would probably upgrade to BD10 when the beta period is over if they make a good deal on an upgrade.

[19monty64]

I've already un-installed some of the a/s-apps except AdAware & SpywareBegone(new version/MUCH improved)...any idea how long on BD10? Have no luck with AVG, Avast, AntiVir, McAfee, Norton, Panda....not beefing about their products, it's a compatability issue with my pc since re-formatting that has prevented me from even changing my firewall from one you get with SP2.....ZoneAlarm and AgnitumOutpost slowed me to a crawl. ....ciao4now&thanxagain!!!

[JerryM]

{QUOTE-> Been using BD9 for some time now, no problems I can see. I uninstalled Spybot and a couple other spyware progs because since installing BitDefender, along with Zone Alarm and Adaware, my computer has been well protected, BD9 catching a number of viruses and trojans.
I would probably upgrade to BD10 when the beta period is over if they make a good deal on an upgrade. <-QUOTE}

Hi Ron,
What security applications, in addition to BD 9, do you have on your computer? I am wondering if you have an anti-trojan, such as Ewido.
Some have reported that BD 9 is not compatible with Spyware Blaster, and Spyware Guard.

Thanks in advance.

Jerry

[19monty64]

I had to un-install Spywareguard/blaster because of BD9, which is why I installed SpywareBegone, and at present XP/SP2 only other protection. System resources a big issue for my old-256M...couldn't even keep AdAware!!!

[JerryM]

{QUOTE-> I had to un-install Spywareguard/blaster because of BD9, which is why I installed SpywareBegone, and at present XP/SP2 only other protection. System resources a big issue for my old-256M...couldn't even keep AdAware!!! <-QUOTE}

Thanks for the reply. I keep hoping that the BD folks will "fix" the compatibility issues with BD9.

Jerry

[19monty64]

...hopefully BD fixes it soon so I can re-install SWblaster/guard, instead of having to limit my surfing & dLo'ding...I use firefox exclusively(noIE)

[WSFuser]

why would u have to limit ur downloading and surfing? ???

[19monty64]

no on-guard protection yet(bd8 ), but at least I managed to re-install SpywareBlaster without conflict...spywareguard and defender still cancel each other out though, after re-boot? They were both on start-up list but only sg has "on-guard" protection...

[JerryM]

{QUOTE-> ...hopefully BD fixes it soon so I can re-install SWblaster/guard, instead of having to limit my surfing & dLo'ding...I use firefox exclusively(noIE) <-QUOTE}

While I wish they would fix it, I have zero confidence that they will. They are working on BD 10, and maybe it will be improved, but so far BD has shown not interest in improving the compatibility issues as far as I have seen.

It is really a good AV, and I would like to install and use it for at least the remaining time of my license, but do not think BD will change anything in BD 9 at least. Guess we will have to wait and see what happens in BD 10. I suspect it will be several months before it is out of beta.

Jerry

[19monty64]

I have found that SpywareBlaster, SpywareBegone and SpybotS&D all work fine with it and none of these use any sys.resources:) so I will definitely be going with BD9, anyone know length of trial and cost per license?

[pykko]

I know it's 29$. In Romania it's much cheaper because they are from Romania. ;D

[19monty64]

after the update I got this morning, I am glad I held off on buying license... my BD8 got a BD9 update I guess and caused pop-up errors so bad I had to force shut-down & un-install... went to softwin to re-download & ended up with same disaster... definitely won't buy now!!!!!

[Antarctica]

Any conflicts between Bit Defender and BoClean?

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> I know it's 29$. In Romania it's much cheaper because they are from Romania. ;D <-QUOTE}
In India BD Professional costs around $36 if you buy from your local reseller :P

[Blackcat]

{QUOTE-> Any conflicts between Bit Defender and BoClean? <-QUOTE}
Not on my system ;)

[Antarctica]

{QUOTE-> Not on my system ;) <-QUOTE}


Thanks Blackcat. I intended to trial BitDefender on my wife's PC.:)

[pykko]

of course...u're going easy eith your PC....your wife's may crush, no problem. ;D Just joking. :P

[Antarctica]

{QUOTE-> of course...u're going easy eith your PC....your wife's may crush, no problem. ;D Just joking. :P <-QUOTE}

That's for sure, my wife is good for crushing things, recently she just crushed
her car.:P :blink:

[RejZoR]

BETA 3 available for download!

[pykko]

downloading it right now...but with my extraordinary connection perhaps tomorrow I'll be able to test it. ;D

[NAMOR]

Notes on Beta 3


Improvements:
- Category based analysis has been added in the Parental Control module (based on heuristic filters, the category based analysis automatically classifying web pages based on content and other cues)
- When the user logs on a network for the first time since BitDefender has been installed, the BitDefender Firewall detects it and launches the BitDefender Firewall Wizard. It allows the user to properly configure the BitDefender Firewall for that specific network. Each time the user logs on a known network, the predefined profile is automatically applied.
- The number of BitDefender processes has been reduced from 8 to 6.

Bug fixes:
- Contextual scan does not work.
- The Default List from the Parental Control module does not work.
- Moving or copying files to the quarantine folder does not work
- When more than 4 scanning tasks run in the same time, BitDefender On-demand Scanner crashes.
- The Web Control module failed to apply rules for URLs including http://.
- www.ebay.de failed to be displayed when HTTP Scanner was enabled.
- After an update process was performed, the update progress bar remained at 100% of the total status.
- Rarely, the antispyware module was disabled due to inconsistent behavior of the product.

Known issues:
- Stealth mode is currently not available.
- Rarely, ICS (internet Connection Sharing) might not work properly due to the BitDefender Firewall module (We recommend to disable and re-enable the firewall)
- The Block Traffic from the General tab button does not work
- The Firewall actions from sys tray do not work
- Load/Save Settings from General>Settings do not work
- The Anti-rootkit module is not available yet.
- If “category-based analysis” is disabled, the “Use the list of blocked sites provided by BitDefender” option from Web control does not work

[VikingStorm]

Beta 4 is out:

{QUOTE-> Improvements:
- Keyword filer: BitDefender users can now explicitly block all web pages and incoming e-mail messages which contain specific words or phrases.

Bug fixes:
- Rarely, ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) might not work properly due to the BitDefender Firewall module
- Rarely, due to the Firewall module the BitDefender process \"vsserv.exe\" used 99% of the system\'s CPU
- Rarely, the uninstall process of BitDefender failed due to a system freeze.
- When Parental Control was enabled, the Windows Update process failed.
- \"Use the list of blocked sites provided by BitDefender\" checkbox did not work (when switching to a different product section, the option was not saved)

Known issues:
- Stealth mode is currently not available.
- The Block Traffic from the General tab button does not work
- The Firewall actions from sys tray do not work
- Load/Save Settings from General>Settings do not work
- The Anti-rootkit module is not available yet.
- If \"category-based analysis\" is disabled, the \"Use the list of blocked sites provided by BitDefender\" option from Web control does not work
- Sometimes the BitDefender process \"bdss.exe\" uses 99% of the system\'s CPU. <-QUOTE}

[talles121]

has anyone of you report some Suggestion or Bug to improve the Product Bitdefender beta thru their beta-report ?

I reported some Suggestion to them:D

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> has anyone of you report some Suggestion or Bug to improve the Product Bitdefender beta thru their beta-report ?

I reported some Suggestion to them:D <-QUOTE}
Err....People test betas to report bugs and provide suggestions for improvement. :D

[pykko]

well, I'm a little bit dissapointed by their beta testing... from beta 1 to beta 4 they added the HTTP scanner and improved some little things.
The anti-rootkit module is not available yet, the stealth mode neither and Sometimes the BitDefender process \"bdss.exe\" uses 99% of the system\'s CPU. (For me it happened severela times and it's not quite funny. :( )

Perhaps in beta 15 they'll finally add/improve some more.
I"m not telling you that beta1 was more like an alpha version, definetly not a beta.

[lodore]

Hi

I am very interested in bitdefender 10 I looked at some of the screenshots and they looked great. i have always liked the self repair and think all av's should have it. can some one show me a screenshot of there task manager showing all the BD processes? on bd 10 beta

btw do bitdefenders firewall alerts still come with like 10 options and are very confusing?