Ewido 4.0 beta now available

[Chubb]

Ewido 4.0 beta is now available

"Register now and try the beta today" on
http://www.ewido.net/en/

Direct link
http://beta.grisoft.cz/beta/

[gerardwil]

-{ Quote: "Ewido 4.0 beta is now available

"Register now and try the beta today" on
http://www.ewido.net/en/

Direct link
http://beta.grisoft.cz/beta/" }-

sreenshot

[Chubb]

WOW gerardwil!!! You are very fast in action!!! :P
Thanks for the screenshot, I am just filling in the form to download the beta!!!;D

[gerardwil]

And your lifetime license still working!

[.....]

What happened to the HIPS system that was supposed to be present? :-\ (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=111335)

[IBK]

-{ Quote: "
Direct link
http://beta.grisoft.cz/beta/" }-

"Database connection could not be estabilished." :(

[Chubb]

-{ Quote: ""Database connection could not be estabilished." :(" }-

I have already registered, and is now playing with the beta, hehe

I got the same error message when I log out of the beta site, maybe there is a server error.

[Chubb]

Update tab

[Chubb]

Scanner - Scan

[Chubb]

Scanner - Settings

[Chubb]

Shield

[Chubb]

Infections - Ignore List

[Chubb]

Analysis - Process

[gerardwil]

Gratuliere Peter, Vinzenz, Karl,

Keine FP's bis jetzt nach einem "full scan".

Congrats Peter, Vinzenz, Karl,

No FP's after full scan.


Gerard :thumb:

[Chubb]

Analysis - Connections

[Chubb]

Analysis - Autostart

[Chubb]

Analysis - Browser Plugins

[Chubb]

Analysis - LSP Viewer

[Chubb]

Tools - AntiSpy

[oddworld]

Wow, had to jump through a lot of hoops to download the beta.

How does everyone like it?

I'll try it later today.

[Chubb]

Tools - Shredder

[Chubb]

My configuration:

Windows XP SP2 with latest fixes
Kaspersky Antivirus 6.0.0.299 running in background
Outpost Firewall Pro 3.51.748.462 with anti-spyware plug-in turned on
Sunbelt CounterSpy 1.5.82 with active protection enabled

Running 4.0 beta resident shield in the background with no BSOD or crashes so far. The resident shield seems stable for the time being.

[Blackcat]

The Guard still seems to take up a lot of memory and at the present time I can only see how to disable the guard.exe. So it still loads up into memory even when inactive.

At least in v3.5 you had the option to uninstall the Guard.

[Chubb]

-{ Quote: "The Guard still seems to take up a lot of memory and at the present time I can only see how to disable the guard.exe. So it still loads up into memory even when inactive.

At least in v3.5 you had the option to uninstall the Guard." }-

Comparing with CounterSpy and KAV:

Memory usage:

Ewido
guard.exe 21,704K
Ewido.exe 12,784K

CounterSpy
SunThreatEngine.exe 59,336K
SunProtectionServer.exe 13,532K
SunServer.exe 9,624K

KAV 6.0.0.299
avp.exe 5,900K
avp.exe 2,664K

Although Ewido.exe used only 12,784K memory, it used and 20-56% of the CPU time, jumping between 20-56% all the time, while CounterSpy and KAV didn't have such big CPU consumption.

[Blackcat]

Chubb, I presume these are not Virtual Memory figures?

[Chubb]

-{ Quote: "Chubb, I presume these are not Virtual Memory figures?" }-

No, they are not VM figures, they are taken from the Mem Usage tab in Task Manager.

[se7engreen]

-{ Quote: ""Database connection could not be estabilished." :(" }-

Same thing here.

[se7engreen]

Also, here's what I'm getting for resource usage in a VM. I think these are pretty reasonable numbers so far.

[peter.ewido]

-{ Quote: "Also, here's what I'm getting for resource usage in a VM. I think these are pretty reasonable numbers so far." }-

That's how it should look like :)

[rdsu]

Excellent work, ewido Team!!! ;D

I love the GUI, the features organization, etc.
Very professional and easy to use ;)

Few questions:
1. What happen to the HIPS feature?
2. This version already have the full Heuristic feature?
3. What browsers are supported to detect tracking cookies?

The only thing bad that it still have are the usage resources, that should be improved a lot, at least when we use all the Guard features...

Keep the excellent work!
Regards

[honeybunny]

Was it at the actual Stand of 4.0 ok using it alone, or was it better, using it together with the 3.5 for the moment, the final 4.0 will be released ?

[puff-m-d]

Hi Peter,

-{ Quote: "That's how it should look like :)" }-
My resource usage is a lot higher and I am see CPU spikes of about 20 % (ewido.exe). Very high VM usage for ewido.exe.

[berng]

The scanner setting term used is a little confusing.

For "Set default action for detected malware to":
Recommended Action.

Reading that it seems a default recommended action would execute, and then I wondered what it was (Quarantine, Delete ...).

But then I realized that it probably means to have the user recommend the action to be taken by the program.

The wording should be changed to remove confusion.

[tholas]

hello all I'm very disapointed this evening, I have registered for the beta twice and still no email or download available to me and I'm a licensed member of the ewido 3.5 family. I would appreciate a little help with this. Thanks

[gkweb]

Left column = mem usage
Right column = virtual mem usage

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jugesoftware/divers/ew1.jpg
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jugesoftware/divers/ew2.jpg

[Chubb]

-{ Quote: "The scanner setting term used is a little confusing.

For "Set default action for detected malware to":
Recommended Action.

Reading that it seems a default recommended action would execute, and then I wondered what it was (Quarantine, Delete ...).

But then I realized that it probably means to have the user recommend the action to be taken by the program.

The wording should be changed to remove confusion." }-

Yes, when you left-click on the orange "recommended action", you can see the options "Ignore Once", "Quarantine", "Delete", "Add to Ignore List" and "Recommended actions".

[greenhatch]

I think the much more open user panel and choices is a big improvement, well done to Ewido; of course the uninitiated (like me) shouldn't tamper with stuff they know little or nothing about. I may download the Beta separately after a few days, to see what bugs or troubles others may report. But I would retain the 3.5 version on my harddrive but disabled until 4.0 is finalised, which might be weeks ahead yet.

[Blackcat]

-{ Quote: "That's how it should look like :)" }-
Unfortunately, these very low figures are not seen on all systems! In fact from the posts so far, much higher usage seems the norm.

Let's hope this high memory usage can be improved before the full version is released and the option to uninstall the Guard is restored in v.4.

[greenhatch]

(wrong thread, oops)

[rdsu]

After using the guard for some time, I didn't see any improvement!
If I only have the Automatic updates enable, it use more resources that with all the features enabled. Very bad that this is same of the v3.5...

Why the ewido team didn't say nothing about the users questions?
Why the beta version if we can't see any feedback from the developers!?

[Joliet Jake]

-{ Quote: "hello all I'm very disapointed this evening, I have registered for the beta twice and still no email or download available to me and I'm a licensed member of the ewido 3.5 family. I would appreciate a little help with this. Thanks" }-


Same here.

[CJsDad]

se7engreen,

How is it that your virtual memory is that low when running Ewido?
My virtual memory is ALOT higher than that.
The other posts that I have read here are about high memory usage also.

[tholas]

What makes this even worse is its been over 24 hours and I've yet to get a response, even a reply in the news group. I guess GRISOST DON'T WANT ANYMORE OF MY MONEY.

[peter.ewido]

Are you using a Spam-Filter? If so, have you checked the Junk Mail folder? This is the cause most of the time...

[strangequark]

-{ Quote: "Are you using a Spam-Filter? If so, have you checked the Junk Mail folder? This is the cause most of the time..." }-

Peter if you check this link you'll see this is happening to a few people
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=129006

It's now 24 hours since registering and no response, and no it's not a spam filter problem or the like, I explained on the other post that I actually registered twice, the second time about an hour after the first, using my two legit email accounts and all my correct details, nothing happened, so several hours later I set up an online email account, filled in all the details at grisoft with incorrect details, false name address etc., and bingo recieved an email from grisoft immediately with download instructions. 24 hours later nothing has turned up on my proper email account, and if you check the other post you'll find others experiencing the same thing. Your starting to collect some p*ssed off clients.

[Joliet Jake]

Still haven't got my link and there's nothing in my junk mail folder.
This is not a very good start to the new company.

[Joliet Jake]

Total pants, tried to sign up with another email and got this message...

"An error occured while saving Your data. Please try to submit form later.

Note: GRISOFT will only use the information you provide for beta program purposes."

Do they want people to test this?

Why oh why not just post a bloody link for the beta?

[TheQuest]

Hi, Joliet Jake

-{ Quote: "Why oh why not just post a bloody link for the beta?" }-
I think they are doing some a Lot of Farming. [Harvesting]

Paid for lifttime, now they seem to need my Death Certifcate to see how long they have to keep me updated.

Take Care,
TheQuest 8)

[Joliet Jake]

This seems so very corporate USA.
They now have my address, phone number etc and I have no beta version.
What I'm looking for now is a swift resolution to the problem and my link to the beta.

[Infinity]

-{ Quote: "This seems so very corporate USA.
They now have my address, phone number etc and I have no beta version.
What I'm looking for now is a swift resolution to the problem and my link to the beta." }-

I'm very very dissapointed atm + 24 hours after registering while they already have all my details anyway so no results .. nothing in my spamfilter and certainly nothing in my inbox (not even in my pm inbox :-\ ) .. I considered myself as being their biggest fan but the last 2 days this upgrade/betabusiness has managed to put my both feet on the ground .. I still have no beta and nothing received at all ...
:gack: no responses to my pm's, no responses to my posts ... and I get this as being a one of their first customers, numerous times of help and laughs, ...

sad .. very sad .. I have a lifetime licence but seriously considering on uninstalling it (well, I ain't gonna upgrade till Ewido upgrades automaticaly, that's for sure)

I don't have any fun in posting btw :-\ :'(

[peter.ewido]

Guys, first of all, pleeease calm down and stop over-reacting, thanks... :)

I mean, have you paid for beta-testing version 4.0? I highly doubt that! :) I know not all is working as expected but the public beta is something we offer voluntarily (and the way we want or need to...)

We are trying to fix everything asap but I think you can image how much feedback we got (at the beginning even the servers were down) so it needs some time to catch up with all requests and bugs.

Infinity: Sorry for not responding but you sent your PM today at 09:15 AM and posted your complaint message here only 4 minutes later at 09:19 AM... How fast do you expect me to answer?

[Infinity]

Hi, thanx for responding Peter and I know you do what you can and we can be glad to beta test your software cause it's free .. and just as a sidenote: I do not need need to have the last word on this subject but I pm'd you a lot and already discussed this hips but no one told me the hips would be excluded, I hoped it wasn't and that this new beta release would add a lot more protection then the 3.5 .. at the moment I think it would be better not to upgrade (registration, no extra security added imho, ...)
/edit: I won't go into details about pm's, that's not the direction I wanted to go but I can prove I've sent 5 pm's mentioning the hips last 3 months ...

5 posts ... bit dissapointed cause everything else could get answered apparently ..

OK Peter, forget I asked those questions .. I'll try to forget that HIPS ...
take care

[peter.ewido]

I'm receiving so many PMs on different boards that I have to set priorities and sometimes miss something, sorry :(

To all users with registration/login problems:
Could you please send me a PM with your e-mail-address? I will then reset your password and send it to you, thanks and sorry for the inconvenienec!

[rdsu]

Hi Peter,

I made just a 3 simple questions, and sent you an email...
Until now I still haven't a simple reply...
Only takes 1 minute to reply...

The first question was already answered here: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=735605&postcount=5

Regards

[honeybunny]

At the Moment there are Updateproblems with your Servers. It shows after trying: Decompression error ???

[peter.ewido]

-{ Quote: "
2. This version already have the full Heuristic feature?
" }-

Let's say, the rules are not perfect but you can always improve things :)

-{ Quote: "
3. What browsers are supported to detect tracking cookies?
" }-

IE and Firefox

[Infinity]

Will the variable/adjustable heuristics settings (low, medium, paranoid - ) be included in this build Peter?

p.s. thanx for the responses and sorry for any inconvenience I have given you!!!

p.m. sent.

[honeybunny]

A question about manual scanning or the Scanner Settings.

After an manual scan it shows at the Main Suite Side: " Detected Malware so far ( for example ) 14 ".

But at the Scanner Side until or after scanning it shows Scan complet nothing found.

Where's my problem ? In 3.5 i could see every detected Malware until an after scanning.

[peter.ewido]

Do you have the guard set to automatically delete tracking cookies?

[honeybunny]

Yep.

Well i see, you mean, during scanning it shows for example the cookies and deleted at once ? So i could see how many things were generally found, but the parts of cookies better said themself were deleted at once ?

[peter.ewido]

If this setting is on, cookies will be deleted without any information whenever they are detected :)

[honeybunny]

-{ Quote: "If this setting is on, cookies will be deleted without any information whenever they are detected :)" }-

Without any information ? Ok, i see. But what then means " detected Malware so far " for example 14, when i do not know which kind of things were found ?

[vinzenz.ewido]

-{ Quote: "Without any information ? Ok, i see. But what means detected Malware so far for example 14 when i do not know which kind of things were found ?" }-

Only cookies will be silently removed. If there will be other threats detected you will be notified about that ;)

BR

[rdsu]

-{ Quote: "IE and Firefox" }-
Any plans to add support for Opera?

[honeybunny]

-{ Quote: "Only cookies will be silently removed. If there will be other threats detected you will be notified about that ;)

BR" }-

Yep, thats the point. It shows me for example detected 14 on the main side of the suite, but on the scanning side it shows found nothing.

[vinzenz.ewido]

-{ Quote: "Yep, thats the point. It shows me for example detected 14 on the main side of the suite, but on the scanning side it shows found nothing." }-

I was talking about the guard, not about the scanner, if there will be any other cookies they will be shown in the scan as well.

But if there are no tracking cookies what should ewido show you in the scanner?
:blink:

BR

[greenhatch]

Sorry to be pedantic Vinzenz, but you do mean only tracking cookies will be silently removed ( I hope not all cookies), right?


-{ Quote: "Only cookies will be silently removed. If there will be other threats detected you will be notified about that ;)

BR" }-

[rdsu]

-{ Quote: "Any plans to add support for Opera?" }-
Yes or no?

[Alphalutra1]

This is positive criticism so please take it with no offense.

First, Ewido 4.0 is a beta, not a trial. Thus, I fail to comprehend why you are offering it as a thirty day trial to all non-registered users. You are just limiting how much testing is going to take place, and maybe lose customers who wanted to test the beta for you and see how well it reacted on their pc.

Second, even when Ewido is told NOT to start up, guard.exe still runs and takes 1,000 KB RAM and 30,000 KB VM, which is very large, and completely uneccessary since it does NOTHING when Ewido is not running.

Third, I do not see many if any memory optimizations. It takes over 70,000KB VM on my pc and nea 30,000 KB RAM, which is more than my av, firewall, and webfilter combined! Also, CPU is horrible when apps open, or even when the start menu is opened.

Fourth, offer cookie support for Opera. It is becoming more and more a popular browser.

Fifth, include a help file. It would greatly benefit new users, and the websites few FAQ's don't help that much.

I will post back with some more comments if I find anything else to improve the project.

Cheers,

Alphalutra1

[Antarctica]

-{ Quote: "This is positive criticism so please take it with no offense.
Second, even when Ewido is told NOT to start up, guard.exe still runs and takes 1,000 KB RAM and 30,000 KB VM, which is very large, and completely uneccessary since it does NOTHING when Ewido is not running.

Third, I do not see many if any memory optimizations. It takes over 70,000KB VM on my pc and nea 30,000 KB RAM, which is more than my av, firewall, and webfilter combined! Also, CPU is horrible when apps open, or even when the start menu is opened.

Alphalutra1" }-


Thanks Alphalutra for pointing this out. I was going to trial Version 4.0, but I think I will wait a little bit...

I deactivate real time monitoring on version 3.5 because it is using too much RAM, so I will not install this version if it is even worse.???

[vinzenz.ewido]

First of all I need to say, I don't know everything. e.g. what will be added in future.

-{ Quote: "This is positive criticism so please take it with no offense.

First, Ewido 4.0 is a beta, not a trial. Thus, I fail to comprehend why you are offering it as a thirty day trial to all non-registered users. You are just limiting how much testing is going to take place, and maybe lose customers who wanted to test the beta for you and see how well it reacted on their pc.
" }-
Please take a look what I said here:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?goto=lastpost&t=117636

-{ Quote: "Second, even when Ewido is told NOT to start up, guard.exe still runs and takes 1,000 KB RAM and 30,000 KB VM, which is very large, and completely uneccessary since it does NOTHING when Ewido is not running." }-

I'm wondering why you think that it is doing nothing. If you have a plus or trial version and enabled realtime protection the guard is still monitoring and will notify you about the infections.

-{ Quote: "Third, I do not see many if any memory optimizations. It takes over 70,000KB VM on my pc and nea 30,000 KB RAM, which is more than my av, firewall, and webfilter combined! Also, CPU is horrible when apps open, or even when the start menu is opened." }-
Hmm That's really strange.

But while scanning that's normal if it uses more RAM
You should have a look how much it is using while it is minimized to tray and idles. What will be the most time the application is running.

-{ Quote: "Fourth, offer cookie support for Opera. It is becoming more and more a popular browser." }-
We'll see what will come but first of all we need to fix all the bugs are already in the 4.0 beta. After fixing them we will starting improving things and adding new features, but I can't tell you if it will come or not.

-{ Quote: "Fifth, include a help file. It would greatly benefit new users, and the websites few FAQ's don't help that much." }-
That is not only the interface to the FAQ but the way how to get to the support but I agree what you're saying about a help file. However *I* can't promise anything about this issue.



One further question, do you know where Virtual Memory is stored at?


BR

[vinzenz.ewido]

-{ Quote: "Yes or no?" }-
First the bugs than we will take a look what we can do in future.

BR

[Alphalutra1]

-{ Quote: "First of all I need to say, I don't know everything. e.g. what will be added in future." }-
Things can only get better, so a good product can only get better ;)


-{ Quote: "
I'm wondering why you think that it is doing nothing. If you have a plus or trial version and enabled realtime protection the guard is still monitoring and will notify you about the infections." }-

I wasn't clear, I disabled the shield and startup due to the high resource usage and to see whether it was ewido's problem or not, and it was

-{ Quote: "
Hmm That's really strange. " }-
Yeah, I thought it was a bit high...
-{ Quote: "
But while scanning that's normal if it uses more RAM
You should have a look how much it is using while it is minimized to tray and idles. What will be the most time the application is running.
" }-
It wasn't scanning unfortunately :-\







-{ Quote: "
One further question, do you know where Virtual Memory is stored at?
" }-

Yep, C:\pagefile.sys, its roughly 1.5 GB, and my RAM is 1 GB

Good luck with the program, I will keep you posted and how it is with my pc.

Cheers,

Alphalutra1

[peter.ewido]

The help file will available in the final version. ;)

[chaos]

-{ Quote: "Guys, first of all, pleeease calm down and stop over-reacting, thanks... :)

I mean, have you paid for beta-testing version 4.0? I highly doubt that! :) I know not all is working as expected but the public beta is something we offer voluntarily (and the way we want or need to...)

We are trying to fix everything asap but I think you can image how much feedback we got (at the beginning even the servers were down) so it needs some time to catch up with all requests and bugs.

Infinity: Sorry for not responding but you sent your PM today at 09:15 AM and posted your complaint message here only 4 minutes later at 09:19 AM... How fast do you expect me to answer?" }-
Well some of us have uninstalled 3.5 and have activated 4.0 beta with the licenses we have bought for 3.5.So yes we have paid.
On the other hand I agree that all these questions can cause a buffer overflow...;D :)

[berng]

-{ Quote: "Well some of us have uninstalled 3.5 and have activated 4.0 beta with the licenses we have bought for 3.5.So yes we have paid.
On the other hand I agree that all these questions can cause a buffer overflow...;D :)" }-

Why would anyone replace a mature security program with a beta? That's like buying new car seatbelts and you're willing to try out the new beta version still being developed.

I can only see this if the program was installed as a hobby, a toy to play with.

[chaos]

-{ Quote: "Why would anyone replace a mature security program with a beta? That's like buying new car seatbelts and you're willing to try out the new beta version still being developed.

I can only see this if the program was installed as a hobby, a toy to play with." }-
exactly.I did it for fun.
I have many security products running and this replacement wont jeopardize my security .
We shouldnt also forget that its working despite the bugs!

[arithona]

-{ Quote: "Wow, had to jump through a lot of hoops to download the beta.

How does everyone like it?

I'll try it later today." }-

It is of good availabilities,I like it.

[honeybunny]

@ewido-guys,

any Timeframe/ Timeline changing to the next Build 4.0.0.152 or 4.0.0.153 ::)

[dlorde]

I filled in the form and submitted it, and it rejected my Spamex email address as 'invalid'. When I filled in my direct email address and submitted it, the form just returned, empty of data...

Is the beta program closed?

[lamErd]

Ok well I have used IE and FireFox. I registered with grisoft.com beta. I go to the members login link when I go to http://www.grisoft.com/beta/. Login, and there is no Ewido 4.0 Beta download. I have a liscence as well. Whats wrong

[gerardwil]

-{ Quote: "Ok well I have used IE and FireFox. I registered with grisoft.com beta. I go to the members login link when I go to http://www.grisoft.com/beta/. Login, and there is no Ewido 4.0 Beta download. I have a liscence as well. Whats wrong" }-

Still there: hxxp://beta.grisoft.cz/beta/tester/pack.php?pack_id=34&ref=news