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vlk
April 19th, 2006, 06:57 AM
http://www.cbronline.com/article_news.asp?guid=41CB9B28-E48E-4418-AB57-C36F98A5CC0A

IBK
April 19th, 2006, 07:06 AM
:o :)

Spyros
April 19th, 2006, 07:12 AM
Press Release:
http://www.ewido.net/en/press/20060419a/

Blackcat
April 19th, 2006, 07:31 AM
Since Grisoft want to integrate the EW scanner into their product, I wonder what the shelf-life of both the free and commercial versions of Ewido now is ?

Those users who purchased a "lifetime" license for EW will be particularly concerned :o ?

vlk
April 19th, 2006, 07:32 AM
Maybe it was "lifetime of the ewido product"... which is now over...;)

vinzenz.ewido
April 19th, 2006, 07:35 AM
Keep cool. For our customers nothing will change. ewido anti-malware will still exist. ;)

BR

SSK
April 19th, 2006, 07:37 AM
Am I correct in understanding the information as: only the scanning technology is licensed to Grisoft, the company is still independent and will keep on developing Ewido Anti-Malware?

Blackcat
April 19th, 2006, 07:39 AM
Those of us who renewed our licenses for several years are also concerned :o

-{ Quote: "Keep cool. For our customers nothing will change. ewido anti-malware will still exist." }-
Good news! So Ewido will still exist as a standalone product?

Spyros
April 19th, 2006, 07:40 AM
-{ Quote: "Am I correct in understanding the information as: only the scanning technology is licensed to Grisoft, the company is still independent and will keep on developing Ewido Anti-Malware?" }-
In addition to that, I can't combine/understand these two informations in my head:
-{ Quote: "Antivirus Specialist GRISOFT Acquires Anti-malware Expert Ewido Networks" }-
and
-{ Quote: "it decided the technology was good enough that it would buy even without a database, and will soon announce a license agreement with one of the major spyware vendors for its database" }-

??? ??? ???

EraserHW
April 19th, 2006, 07:50 AM
maybe they acquired only technology (advanced unpacker emulator - dynamic unpacking) and spyware defs will be acquired from another company

vinzenz.ewido
April 19th, 2006, 07:55 AM
-{ Quote: "Merger with Grisoft
ewido is now part of the Grisoft family. For our customers and partners nothing will change. The ewido team can now take advantage of the huge resources regarding threat research and support available from a world leading AV company." }-
This means the company ewido network was accquired by Grisoft, not only our technology.

So we're now part of Grisoft, but the product ewido anti-malware will still exist and the development will be continued.

EraserHW
April 19th, 2006, 07:57 AM
it will be called always ewido anti-malware? or grisoft anti-spyware?

and, another question: has some sense still have ewido as standalone software? I mean, if ewido technology and defs will be included in AVG, why have two same software?

SSK
April 19th, 2006, 07:58 AM
-{ Quote: "This means the company ewido network was accquired by Grisoft, not only our technology.

So we're now part of Grisoft, but the product ewido anti-malware will still exist and the development will be continued." }-
OK, thanks! :)

Spyros
April 19th, 2006, 08:00 AM
-{ Quote: "This means the company ewido network was accquired by Grisoft, not only our technology.

So we're now part of Grisoft, but the product ewido anti-malware will still exist and the development will be continued." }-

Yes, but will you still provide the database, or will it be bought from another company, as vlk's link says?

vinzenz.ewido
April 19th, 2006, 08:04 AM
-{ Quote: "Yes, but will you still provide the database, or will it be bought from another company, as vlk's link says?" }-

We still will have our database. ;)

I can't read in this post that another company will buy our database. Please guy s don't start any rumors. ::)

EraserHW
April 19th, 2006, 08:06 AM
well, so I believe it's clear:

Ewido is bought by AVG. Ewido will give its technology (advanced emulatore, dynamic unpacking) to AVG but not its database.

Right?

If so, now I understand why Ewido will remain as standalone software

Spyros
April 19th, 2006, 08:07 AM
-{ Quote: "We still will have our database. ;)

I can't read in this post that another company will buy our database. Please guy s don't start any rumors. ::)" }-
I'm not starting anything. The article says:
-{ Quote: "
However, when it came across Erlangen, Germany-based Ewido, it decided the technology was good enough that it would buy even without a database, and will soon announce a license agreement with one of the major spyware vendors for its database.
" }-

RejZoR
April 19th, 2006, 08:14 AM
So under the line, they basically just licensed the engine...

EraserHW
April 19th, 2006, 08:19 AM
-{ Quote: "So under the line, they basically just licensed the engine..." }-

yeah :D

Howard Kaikow
April 19th, 2006, 08:24 AM
-{ Quote: "Since Grisoft want to integrate the EW scanner into their product, I wonder what the shelf-life of both the free and commercial versions of Ewido now is ?

Those users who purchased a "lifetime" license for EW will be particularly concerned :o ?" }-

That will depend on the wording of the license and the laws of the jurisdiction that governs the license.

bigc73542
April 19th, 2006, 08:29 AM
Keep calm guys nothing is going to change with your licenses

Chubb
April 19th, 2006, 09:19 AM
I can see from the screenshots of Ewido 4.0 that the new UI looks like Windows Defender UI. Am I wrong?

vinzenz.ewido
April 19th, 2006, 09:30 AM
Yes you are. It looks like ewido anti-malware 4.0 :p

BR

Infinity
April 19th, 2006, 09:41 AM
would it be possible to see some extra screenies?

iwod
April 19th, 2006, 09:48 AM
-{ Quote: "well, so I believe it's clear:

Ewido is bought by AVG. Ewido will give its technology (advanced emulatore, dynamic unpacking) to AVG but not its database.

Right?

If so, now I understand why Ewido will remain as standalone software" }-

Does that even make sense? You brought the whole company without the company's Db?
So who owns the Db now?

I was hoping AVG would do something great. After all Intel did invest some huge money into it. And with the help of Ewido they might have a chance for passing the retro test in Av-comparatives for the first time :D

And if ever Grisoft is thinking of redesigning Webpage , Logo, GUI of their next gen AV , or any graphical things please leave them to ewido team?
( Btw Good job Ewido teams! for the new design of webpage and logo )

Infinity
April 19th, 2006, 09:51 AM
we all knows those kind of stories of good software getting bought up by large companies .. I truely hope that this story has a better ending!

Don Pelotas
April 19th, 2006, 09:55 AM
-{ Quote: "This means the company ewido network was accquired by Grisoft, not only our technology.

So we're now part of Grisoft, but the product ewido anti-malware will still exist and the development will be continued." }-
Sure, i believe that you mean that, but for how long and how will the new owners feel about this in 6-12 months, i'm sure they will take a good look at how you do things and have their fingerprint on how things are done and that does not necessarily mean better for ewido costumers. :dry:

Detox
April 19th, 2006, 11:43 AM
I've moved this over to the Ewido forum since most discussion has been taking place here and other threads were popping up. Hopefully we can keep it all in one place this way ;)

redwolfe_98
April 19th, 2006, 01:23 PM
i will go with what it says at the ewido website, "for our customers, nothing will change"..

gre87y
April 19th, 2006, 01:54 PM
After going through the TDS4 fiasco I certainly hope you are correct redwolfe

QBgreen
April 19th, 2006, 02:42 PM
-{ Quote: "we all knows those kind of stories of good software getting bought up by large companies .. I truely hope that this story has a better ending!" }-

Amen! I had that very thing happen to me twice. McAfee (Network Associates at the time) bought and killed two of my favorite products from back in Win '95-'98 days. Helix Hurricane was a fantastic system utilities suite, and Dr. Solomon's AVTK, a powerful and loyally supported A/V. I would become quite irritated if this happened to ewido's fine program. >:(

chaos16
April 19th, 2006, 02:55 PM
does this mean AVG signatures would be implemented in Ewido ?

IBK
April 19th, 2006, 03:21 PM
-{ Quote: "does this mean AVG signatures would be implemented in Ewido ?" }-

no, probably like Ewido says: "for our customers, nothing will change", but AVG will implement the ewido technology in its products. :P

azumi21
April 19th, 2006, 03:47 PM
shocking.....

at least m$ or symantec didn't buy ewido.

Itsme
April 19th, 2006, 04:18 PM
ffff,
good thing I did not buy a license.... looks like Tinysoftware/CA story all over again...

this has killed my every initiative every buying another license from a promissing company.

I left AVG behind long time ago for Nod32, and now waited for Ewido 4 to come out to see if I would buy 10 licenses.... now I know my money will go elsewhere.

And please... don't tell me it is in the interest of your Clients.... I am not an idiot.

Ciao
Itsme

Chubb
April 19th, 2006, 04:45 PM
-{ Quote: "Amen! I had that very thing happen to me twice. McAfee (Network Associates at the time) bought and killed two of my favorite products from back in Win '95-'98 days. Helix Hurricane was a fantastic system utilities suite, and Dr. Solomon's AVTK, a powerful and loyally supported A/V. I would become quite irritated if this happened to ewido's fine program. >:(" }-

-{ Quote: "at least m$ or symantec didn't buy ewido." }-

I was very disappointed when McAfee bought Dr. Solomon's AVTK in late 1998. Dr' Solomon's AVTK was my favourite AV at that time along with AVP3.0 (KAV). In more or less the same time, Symantec bought IBM AntiVirus and Intel LanDesk AntiVirus to compete with McAfee, and Norman Data Defence bought ThunderByte.

McAfee completely destroyed Dr Solomon's!! McAfee simply plug the Dr Solomon's engine into VirusScan and thrown away Dr Solomon's. There was NO change in the VirusScan UI or settings. McAfee simply bought the engine and signature base ONLY and destroyed the whole company. I read some time ago that McAfee used the AVAST engine before it bought Dr. Solomon's.

So will AVG do the same? :'( :'(

Ewido has been working well and compatible with most AV and anti-spyware software, but I think 4.0 may not be compatible as in version 3.5, since the anti-spyware component in 4.0 may cause imcompatability with other AV or anti-spyware software, and using Ewido 4 may require giving up your other favorite software.

the Tester
April 19th, 2006, 04:49 PM
I'm a bit skeptical of this deal.
Don Pelota's post brings up a very good point.How this will play out over time for both the Ewido program and it's customers is anybody's guess.Things have a way of changing.

On the bright side....at least M$ didn't buy/bury/mutilate the program.:thumb:

TopperID
April 19th, 2006, 04:50 PM
I was very satisfied with Giant AS when I bought a licence, but by the time that licence expired I was relieved to be able to jump ship.

Who knows what Grisoft will do with ewido in the months to come? It is now their company to do with it as they wish. They can change the name, allow it to run down, refuse to continue as a separate product - anything!

Of course they must honour existing licences to customers, because those customers have a legally binding contract with them. But if they so choose, they could stop issuing new licenses and in a year or so it could be all over.

What happened to Giant could equally happen to ewido.

Notok
April 19th, 2006, 06:15 PM
Sounds like everyone wants ewido to be stopped. It was stated several times that nothing will change on ewido's side, and I don't see any reason to believe otherwise. It's quite common for a company to acquire another and keep it going as it's own project. Of course there will be some cross-over, but that is going to have more to do with know-how. I'm sure that they will exchange samples more readily when appropriate, but ewido is no AV, and AVG is no AT, and you can't just patch AVG with parts of another program. Most likely the ewido team will just teach them how they can implement things like real memory scanning, unpackers, etc., and be advisors on the tougher trojans. It just makes sense for them to be separate products because you then have income coming in from two different kinds of customers, and ewido will remain in the better place to research trojans and other malware.

I look forward to seeing version 4. Any chance we can see a full size screenshot?

chaos16
April 19th, 2006, 06:16 PM
i find it stupid that Ewido will give its technology and signatures to Grisoft. and that Grisoft would not give there sugnatures and technology for the ewido anti-trojan.

i know that the ewido 4.0 will be great but with the signatures that avg has it would have way better detection.

WSFuser
April 19th, 2006, 06:34 PM
the topic title startled me for a bit but if vinzenz.ewido says that ewido anti-malware will still exist, then ill just wait for v4.0.

also if ewido anti-malware will still exist, then what exactly (in plain english) is happening between ewido and grisoft?

strangequark
April 19th, 2006, 07:51 PM
no no! not TDS again please, this is what we got there, assurance after assurance that all was well nothing going on, I hope thats not a feeling of a rug being pulled out from underneath my feet. We want to trust, believe, have faith and all the rest of it, but! previous experiences have turned us a tad cynical.

TheQuest
April 19th, 2006, 08:32 PM
Hi, Chubb

-{ Quote: "Ewido has been working well and compatible with most AV and anti-spyware software, but I think 4.0 may not be compatible as in version 3.5, since the anti-spyware component in 4.0 may cause imcompatability with other AV or anti-spyware software, and using Ewido 4 may require giving up your other favorite software." }-
What makes you come think it will become incompatible all of a sudden? do you have any reasons? or is it just a bit of lurking.

Take Care,
TheQuest 8)

dadkins
April 20th, 2006, 12:39 AM
Ok, where do the users of the Free scanner go to get updates now?

greenhatch
April 20th, 2006, 03:02 AM
As long as Ewido continues to be as widely compatible with other programs as it is now, I will carry on with it. I think the fear is that being taken over, almost always leads to big changes in products, in spite of press releases indicating otherwise. Let's hope Ewido version 4 is the improvement we've been led to expect.

dvk01
April 20th, 2006, 06:46 AM
The 2 products Ewido anti malware ( anti trojan & anti spyware) and AVG antivirus are 2 very different products and it would be extremely difficult to integrate them into one product from a technical point of view

AVG is still a small company that is growing and it makes quite good sense for 2 small companies to integrate & share development & marketing costs

The big problem with ewido was/is it's lack of penetration to the mainstream public market

Now AVG who have a brilliant publicity department will be able to use their expertise in that field to improve Ewido's penetration and Ewido's technical expertise will be able to help improve AVG which isn't by any means the most effective AV on the market

Don't all panic and theorise about problems that don't exist and probaly and hopefully won't

ErikAlbert
April 20th, 2006, 08:02 AM
Grisoft's security suite has only two parts : firewall + AV ... Ewido could be the third part. :)

Chubb
April 20th, 2006, 08:27 AM
-{ Quote: "Hi, Chubb

What makes you come think it will become incompatible all of a sudden? do you have any reasons? or is it just a bit of lurking.

Take Care,
TheQuest 8)" }-

Hi, TheQuest

Hm...I really hope that the anti-spyware module in Ewido 4.0 will still be compatible with other antivirus and anti-spyware software. When Outpost release 3.0, the anti-spyware plug-in was compatbible with CounterSpy 1.5.82. When Outpost release 3.5, it says the anit-spyware plug-in has tigher integration with the firewall and this caused incompatability with CounterSpy and gave a BSOD. Originally looking to having 2 layers of defence in spyware (Outpost and CounterSpy), I was finally required to disable the anti-spyware plug-in in Outpost to avoid the BSOD.

Perman
April 20th, 2006, 09:12 AM
Hi, folks, what has transpired between ewido and grisoft is nothing but normal. Company merger, business aquisition are common in business world; cyper space is no exception. What we as comsumers should look for are: what is the motive for this action; what is lingering after shock and residual effect. Normally when something this magnitude happened there are some tracks we can trace back; was it not long ago ewico heavily promoting licences sales, such as volume discount, lifetime etc; first time in their company history; this is the black cloud on the horizon; druming up their client bases==setting up public forum=aquiring massive positive comments from users; have you been one of these players.?:: IMO, the following may evolve: grisoft will integrate ewido`AT into their security suite; they have firewall and AV now, with the addition of ewido AT and perhaps another AS, then Grisoft will certainly become the first software company owning such a complete suite. Grisoft has in the last attempted to cease providing free AVG; changing heart after public pressure, by the same token, this time around they might as well say goodbye to free AVG and free Ewido. As to existing ewido clients, Grisoft are obilgated to provide support untill it dies out in normal course. One good question remains is that "should grisoft refuse to honor ewido's contract with clients, what can we as clients do, grisoft is an off-shore(outside America) company, sue them? Big if! Good luck to all (including myself)>:(

WSFuser
April 20th, 2006, 10:28 AM
-{ Quote: "The 2 products Ewido anti malware ( anti trojan & anti spyware) and AVG antivirus are 2 very different products and it would be extremely difficult to integrate them into one product from a technical point of view

AVG is still a small company that is growing and it makes quite good sense for 2 small companies to integrate & share development & marketing costs

The big problem with ewido was/is it's lack of penetration to the mainstream public market

Now AVG who have a brilliant publicity department will be able to use their expertise in that field to improve Ewido's penetration and Ewido's technical expertise will be able to help improve AVG which isn't by any means the most effective AV on the market

Don't all panic and theorise about problems that don't exist and probaly and hopefully won't" }-
so its a win-win situation for both products?

denis
April 20th, 2006, 11:16 AM
With the unlimited license you will get the plus license for lifetime including all software updates and upgrades, premium support, realtime protection, kernel layer protection, automatic updates, etc.

Lifetime means that as long as you, the company or the product exists.

;D

Itsme
April 20th, 2006, 03:06 PM
-{ Quote: "
Lifetime means that as long as you, the company or the product exists.
;D" }-

Are you sure it's not.... as long as you AND the company AND the product exisit. If just one of it changes... then goodbye license...

Ciao
Itsme

The Hammer
April 20th, 2006, 03:29 PM
You should never buy a lifetime licence for anyone's software. Year to year is more expensive, but it's the prudent way to go.

JonPaulOnLine
April 20th, 2006, 05:46 PM
Remember in December 2005

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=112204

JonPaulOnLine
April 20th, 2006, 06:45 PM
-{ Quote: "Keep calm guys nothing is going to change with your licenses" }-


-{ Quote: "Keep cool. For our customers nothing will change. ewido anti-malware will still exist. ;)

BR" }-


Thank You for your information since I
purchased 3 three unlimited Lifetime licenses in February 2006

mercurie
April 20th, 2006, 08:52 PM
-{ Quote: "You should never buy a lifetime licence for anyone's software. Year to year is more expensive, but it's the prudent way to go." }-Depends on how much you paid for the Lifetime license. ;)

mercurie
April 20th, 2006, 08:55 PM
-{ Quote: "The 2 products Ewido anti malware ( anti trojan & anti spyware) and AVG antivirus are 2 very different products and it would be extremely difficult to integrate them into one product from a technical point of view

AVG is still a small company that is growing and it makes quite good sense for 2 small companies to integrate & share development & marketing costs

The big problem with ewido was/is it's lack of penetration to the mainstream public market

Now AVG who have a brilliant publicity department will be able to use their expertise in that field to improve Ewido's penetration and Ewido's technical expertise will be able to help improve AVG which isn't by any means the most effective AV on the market

Don't all panic and theorise about problems that don't exist and probaly and hopefully won't" }-This is a good Business decision. Exactly right. ;)

Don Pelotas
April 22nd, 2006, 04:33 AM
-{ Quote: "This is a good Business decision. Exactly right. ;)" }-
Yes, a good business decision, i hope it will also be good for their existing costumers who perhaps (like me) couldn't care less about AVG, but care about how Ewido will develop, now that others decide what happens at Ewido Networks and not those who actually fostered the program. :)

greenhatch
April 22nd, 2006, 07:03 AM
Exactly!

-{ Quote: "Yes, a good business decision, i hope it will also be good for their existing costumers who perhaps (like me) couldn't care less about AVG, but care about how Ewido will develop, now that others decide what happens at Ewido Networks and not those who actually fostered the program. :)" }-

Qark
April 22nd, 2006, 08:05 AM
Hi everyone. I apologize my bad english (i'm from finland)

I have heard some rumors by Ewido 4.0. Would Ewido 4.0 be freeware? Or can I only download trial version of Ewido 4.0? I hope that Ewido would be free software like nowdays it is.

So is that correct if I want Ewido I must buy it?

vlk
April 22nd, 2006, 10:04 AM
-{ Quote: "The 2 products Ewido anti malware ( anti trojan & anti spyware) and AVG antivirus are 2 very different products and it would be extremely difficult to integrate them into one product from a technical point of view

AVG is still a small company that is growing and it makes quite good sense for 2 small companies to integrate & share development & marketing costs

The big problem with ewido was/is it's lack of penetration to the mainstream public market " }-

I can't agree less. First, Grisoft is really not a small company anymore (well, depends on your point of view, but the revenue is about $30-40M/yr, and the number of employees goes somewhere to 200). Compared to that, ewido is/was *tiny*.

Guys, this is NOT a merger, this is an absolutely classic acquisition. Simply, ewido will become part of AVG, its creators will become part of the Grisoft team etc... I don't know what's so strange about that - it has happened to many companies in the past (even huge companies), and there's nothing wrong with it (per se). Welcome to the globalization age.

Personally, I don't think it was a wise move from Grisoft, but only time will tell. At least, they have now "employed" a couple of competent system engineers which is not always an easy task...


Cheers
Vlk

aigle
April 22nd, 2006, 10:42 AM
BTW, I don,t like this globalization age business. There is no place for small business. Big fish eating the small one. So bad....

vlk
April 22nd, 2006, 11:28 AM
Again, depends on the point of view. Personally, I don't know ANY small software company that actually does not AIM to being acquired by someone else. I mean, isn't it nice, you start a company, run it for 2 years and then lucratively sell it?

TNT
April 22nd, 2006, 11:35 AM
-{ Quote: "Again, depends on the point of view. Personally, I don't know ANY small software company that actually does not AIM to being acquired by someone else. I mean, isn't it nice, you start a company, run it for 2 years and then lucratively sell it?" }-Ugh... I hope for some companies profit is not everything.

vlk
April 22nd, 2006, 11:38 AM
-{ Quote: "Ugh... I hope for some companies profit is not everything." }-

It's not only about the money. It's also about the appreciation (someone BIG feels your technology is good enough to be worth bying) etc...

Sorry, I might be biased, but the "startup software company" thing is IMHO exactly about this...

aigle
April 22nd, 2006, 02:49 PM
-{ Quote: "Again, depends on the point of view. Personally, I don't know ANY small software company that actually does not AIM to being acquired by someone else. I mean, isn't it nice, you start a company, run it for 2 years and then lucratively sell it?" }-
U are right but some times it may be the only option. not the best, esp out of software business.

Perman
April 22nd, 2006, 04:22 PM
-{ Quote: "It's not only about the money. It's also about the appreciation (someone BIG feels your technology is good enough to be worth bying) etc...

Hi, folks: this acqusition(not merger!) has clearly broke some viewers' heart. (including mine). Do you remember the old saying: if you can not compete against it, just own it! AVG is a large(HA,Ha) company and they perhaps tried so (!!) hard to invent(?) a AT and bitterly failed; their CEO lost his confidence on their TEO, and issues an executive order to buy some AT company. Meanwhile, Ewido was doing fire sale(license sale) and heavy PR work (setting up public forum) to druming up its sale value. Bingo, at someswhere in Germany, these two companies finally see into each other's eyes and say "time is right, let 's do it". Folks, from this event, we as consumers should ALWAYS rememer that it is always a buyer aware market!
The"Giant antispyware" case has hurt so many users, the after shock until today still is lingering, just like bad taste in month, just *puppy* would not go away! Next time, if there is some junior company doing heavy PR work, I would be extraordinally CAUTIOUS.

EASTER.2010
April 22nd, 2006, 04:45 PM
I've always had the highest of confidence with Grisoft's AVG anti-virus protections that have served my investments very well in the past so i take a neutral stand on the acquisition and hope all the best for EWIDO for the future.

By the way, i don't mind blowing my own horn when i say i no longer use any installed AV and if i feel an occasional scan is in order i go to online sweeps thanks to the introduction of new HIPS prevention protections.

On the other hand, even though i do keep EWIDO installed it is not resident nor needed with the Fort Knox, Star Wars type defense shield employed on my local units. Of course it always helps to have benefitted enough from actual experience over these years in my local research to carry this much confidence with the volume of intruders running rampant on the internet these days.

TopperID
April 22nd, 2006, 05:14 PM
-{ Quote: "I've always had the highest of confidence with Grisoft's AVG anti-virus protections" }-
Now here's someone with a sense of humour! ;D
-{ Quote: "By the way........ i no longer use any installed AV" }-
Well that explains why you regard AVG so highly - you're someone who doesn't even need an AV at all! :P
-{ Quote: "On the other hand, even though i do keep EWIDO installed it is not resident nor needed " }-
Just because you don't need it doesn't mean others can't benefit - let us us hope it continues to exist, and develop, in the future. ::)

EASTER.2010
April 22nd, 2006, 07:57 PM
I find a couple of those replies somewhat odd but then everyone is entitled to their own opinions and most of those relate directly to their experience with those that worked best for them.

To repeat, AVG is done admirable enough on my units in the past and is recommended along with the many others although i understand KAV sits perhaps as a popular front runner in this industry. Norton's still remains common on many units i seen and read about also but of course there are plenty of models to be found adequate enough.

On EWIDO, make no mistake, it is very formidable and continues to offer perhaps the best detection and removals capabilties of the lot IMO. Also being a specialist myself i would never recommend NOT deploying any of the above at all times generally. Perhaps i should have made that distinction early on behalf of opinions such as yours that might be mistaken as they are not needed at all or something on that order, which DEFINITELY is not hinted at or intended by my statements.

mercurie
April 22nd, 2006, 11:11 PM
All,
In my earlier posts I certainly was speaking from a corporate view point. Think about it, Grisoft needed a fine product like Ewido to compete with the other suites out there, it was the next logical step for them. First a firewall and then an anti-malware to add to the suite. They may have need of more "talent" in the spyware area too.

For Ewido it allows them to leap frog into the more known bigger boys majors. Not a product struggling to get visability. we are a small group here compared to the masses looking for security software. We are really into it most just want simple to use protection.

I AM NOT SPEAKING ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE PRODUCTS. WE CAN DEBATE THAT HERE ALL YEAR AT WILDERS AND INDEED WE DO.

I have never used Ewido but I have used AVG and never had an infection. Unlike some I feel comfortable with AVG, but understand it is not the "best" AV out there, I understand this, but I am now far more likely to give the whole suite a try knowing AVG and hearing all the good things about Ewido. This is how companies are built in any business if you can not or do not want to build it merge or buy it.

As to how it all works out I can not say, no one can, but if I were a customer of Ewido, yes I would not be happy if I did not like AVG.

To this day I wish Checkpoint had never bought ZoneAlarm.

Even though I do not completely agree with Hammer he makes a good point. Be careful about buying lifetime licenses if your product gets bought or merge with another you may not like it and if you forked out more then a couple of years for the lifetime license...Booo...Hiss...

gre87y
April 23rd, 2006, 12:12 AM
"To this day I wish Checkpoint had never bought ZoneAlarm."
I couldn't agree more

ellison64
April 23rd, 2006, 06:36 AM
-{ Quote: "Now here's someone with a sense of humour! ;D

Well that explains why you regard AVG so highly - you're someone who doesn't even need an AV at all! :P

Just because you don't need it doesn't mean others can't benefit - let us us hope it continues to exist, and develop, in the future. ::)" }-

I cant understand ,the slagging off of avg.While it may not be up there with the kasperskys of this world ,it is nevertheless one of the least hassle and most stable avs.Its also free.I used 6 for 2 years with no problems whatsoever.True..if you gonna browse the warez and porn sites then dont use AVG or use it in conjunction with other security.I would imagine that anyone who takes reasonable care in thier browsing habits would feel reasonably safe with AVG.I know i would have no problem using it whatsoever.The fact that grisoft has aquired ewido ,has got to be good news for AVG users who will benefit from the extra protection.Whether it will benefit ewido users though is another matter and only time will tell.
ellison

btman
April 23rd, 2006, 06:41 AM
just like norton getting sygate... sygate is no longer free... i got my sygate the day before it got a pricetag though :D ... i dont like avg personally... i like the features of avast as it can run on my computer nicely. Avg is an ok product but when i had it i never saw it update... and when i scanned with other engines it would find stuff on my computer... and avg leaked some stuff... avast it finds everything that i have encountered... and i run a kaspersky scan every once in a while also and it finds nothing... but im not being biased here if ewido combined with avast i would still be just as upset. they could get extra profit just from just advertising their product and comparing it. Look at a squared and their chart showing products that they compared, they didnt compare ewido but it is well recognized on their forums. The point? Marketing. They put all things they know they can top. But a squared is not the best, their signatures have more f/p (Incredimail was put on causing hell one day) and i find 3 things with a squared (On a good day). With ewido i find plenty more. I would love Ewido makers to make profit, lots of it they deserve it.... But one thing would make me happier.. :D If grisoft would change their ugly symbol on their product just like Ewido did... though i didnt mind the big E.....I could have a big A (avast) and a big E in my bottom right corner... :P Instead i will have to live with something else (no matter). I might consider buying avg if they and Ewido hit it big....

aigle
April 23rd, 2006, 10:14 AM
BTW, I think from business point of view Ewido has the right to sell itself for a good price. Don,t forget that Ewido is not popular in average users( so less revenue)-- I myself never used it before coming to Wilders---, on the other hand Grisoft has access to average users and can make good use of it for its own revenue. So it,s a deal that is good for both Ewido and Grisoft.
Now only thing left are the old customers of Ewido( mainly the life time customers I will say), that we have to wait only and see.

sweater
April 26th, 2006, 09:08 PM
There's a saying that two heads are better than one, and I think Grisoft acquiring Ewido then I guess the exchange of ideas and technologies between this two popular company will be a good one. And I hope that in the next version of any of their product/s can then incorporate some of the other things that can improve the performances of the other and vice versa. Grisoft AVG antivirus is one of the lightest in system resources that I have ever used and tested, and Ewido has advanced malware detection engine against malwares. I hope that they can then supplement one another to correct the "defects" or flaws that can be presently exists in their programs. Improving the two to become one of the best available to us to protect our system. Better detection capabilities with minimal system resources consumptions. 8)

The Hammer
April 26th, 2006, 09:29 PM
-{ Quote: "

Even though I do not completely agree with Hammer he makes a good point. Be careful about buying lifetime licenses if your product gets bought or merge with another you may not like it and if you forked out more then a couple of years for the lifetime license...Booo...Hiss..." }-Another point I wanted to make is that after buying a lifetime licence for someones software, future versions of the software (insert product name here) may take a development path which you regard as detrimental in some way. Even if the software company is not aquired or merged with another.

aigle
April 27th, 2006, 07:13 AM
-{ Quote: "Another point I wanted to make is that after buying a lifetime licence for someones software, future versions of the software (insert product name here) may take a development path which you regard as detrimental in some way. Even if the software company is not aquired or merged with another." }-
But sometimes its, so cheep that either way u are not a looser.