View Full Version : Foxit Reader really does all the functions of Adobe?
sweater
April 1st, 2006, 05:09 AM
I was wondering if Foxit Reader can really does all of the Adobe reader functions and if it's really compatible to all Adobe files. ::)
Adobe reader 7 really slows down and freezes up my pc when I am reading pdf when surfing the net. Is there anything should I do first before I uninstall Adobe Reader 7 and install Foxit Reader? ???
How about those save file in Adobe Reader in my hard drive...will it be okay and will it function the same with Foxit Reader? ::) :dry: ???
In your personal experience, what's the pros and cons of using Foxit Reader? Is this compatible w Firefox? :dry:
rdsu
April 1st, 2006, 06:11 AM
Foxit Reader still doesn't rending pdf's so well like Adobe Reader, so I use AR with the Adobe Reader Speed-Up (http://www.tnk-bootblock.co.uk/prods/misc/index.php)... ;)
sweater
April 1st, 2006, 06:34 AM
Oh my...:o thanks for the quick reply, coz I'm already planning to uninstall my Adobe Reader 7 program and to replace it with Foxit Reader. And with your comment to it, then, I will not install it as of now and I'll just downlod the speeder you mentioned. ;)
But the file was so small, is this different to the one I saw in this picture attach with bigger size? ??? Did they function the same or it differs much? ???
rdsu
April 1st, 2006, 06:38 AM
-{ Quote: "Oh my...:o thanks for the quick reply, coz I'm already planning to uninstall my Adobe Reader 7 program and to replace it with Foxit Reader. And with your comment to it, then, I will not install it as of now and I'll just downlod the speeder you mentioned. ;)" }-
Remember that this is only my opinion... ;)
You can install FR and see if it's ok to you...
sweater
April 1st, 2006, 06:41 AM
Vampiric Crow...Please see my edited questions above w picture...thanks.;)
snowbound
April 1st, 2006, 06:43 AM
Foxit is perfect for me as i barely use PDF and i love it's small size. I have never had a problem with it rendering so far. ;) ;D
snowbound
rdsu
April 1st, 2006, 06:45 AM
-{ Quote: "Please see my edited questions above w picture...thanks.;)" }-
With the one that I suggest, you have more options...
But you can try them and see what you like more... ;)
sweater
April 1st, 2006, 06:50 AM
Oks...and again thanks. 8) ;)
aigle
April 1st, 2006, 07:32 AM
I have recently installed foxit and only thing i do is to read online PDF documents etc. I have acrobat also. I felt that foxit is faster but Acrobat,s words are more clear and good looking than foxit. Rest I don,t know.
aigle
April 1st, 2006, 07:36 AM
Just I remeber now why I installed foxit. I felt many times I opened some PDF document online and when without closing it I tried to shut down my PC, I received the message " Adobe Acrobat is not responding" and I have to press End Now option. I was thinking to uninstall and reinstall Acrobat to see if it solves the issue when I read about foxit on PC word, so I installed it, and it is now default one, with Acrobat still there.
Jaws
April 1st, 2006, 09:52 AM
Don't forget older versions of Adobe are still available. Version 5.0.5 is a third of the download size, probably runs faster, with less bloat.
But I'm in the Foxit camp not needing to use a PDF reader often.
-{ Quote: "How about those save file in Adobe Reader in my hard drive...will it be okay and will it function the same with Foxit Reader?" }-
Foxit Reader doesn't even install on your system, just associate Foxit to your PDF files.
HTH
sweater
April 1st, 2006, 10:18 AM
Actually, one thing that made me hesitates to uninstalls Adobe Reader 7 was that I also have Adobe Photo Shop and Adobe Image Ready. I was worried that if I removed Adobe Reader that it might be possibly affected coz their directory folder is just in one place. :-[
Adobe Reader looks nice and the image is clear, I am just hoping to have some software or the software program I downloaded can help make their performance improved with less ram and cpu consumations. :dry:
aigle
April 1st, 2006, 10:36 AM
So sweater did you find any difference after installing the spped up software and which one you installed.
sweater
April 1st, 2006, 11:02 AM
I am still surfing, and have just downloaded it an hour or more ago, pls don't be too fast, haven't installed yet anything to speed-up my Adobe Reader. Maybe, I'll just tell ya here after several days of testing. ;D ;)
Paranoid2000
April 1st, 2006, 11:31 AM
I'd cast a vote for Foxit also - I used Acrobat 5.05 and found Foxit 4-5 times faster at scrolling graphics-heavy pages and I've never noticed any rendering issues. Adobe should be hanging their heads in shame at being out-performed in this way.
The only irritation with Foxit is the advertising in the top-right of the window (yes, its small and can be disabled via View/Advertisement until you restart Foxit) but I did find a way to disable it permanently via their Registry settings: Use RegEdit (or another Registry editor) to navigate to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Foxit Software\Foxit Reader\MainFrame; Set the ShowEditorAd_908, ShowPOAd_908, ShowReaderAd_908, ShowSDKAd_908 and ShowTypeWriteAd_908 keys to 0; Set AdvertiseIndex to 9.Since these are "per-user" settings, they will need to be done for each user you use. However it does appear to work in my case.
sweater
April 1st, 2006, 11:52 AM
One question...can we use two pdf reader in our pc? Adobe Reader and Foxit Reader in one pc? ???
rdsu
April 1st, 2006, 11:53 AM
-{ Quote: "One question...can we use two pdf reader in our pc? Adobe Reader and Foxit Reader in one pc? ???" }-
Yes...
sweater
April 1st, 2006, 11:58 AM
Really? ???
It will not conflict one way or the other...:dry: ::) are you sure? ???
Coz...I was thinking this was just like having two anti-virus both have running their real-time resident monitors...::) :blink:
rdsu
April 1st, 2006, 12:01 PM
You will not have any problem, because only one can be the default viewer of PDF's, so you just have to decide which will be... ;)
Robyn
April 1st, 2006, 12:02 PM
I have Foxit as I only need to read pdf files. Adobe was so slow at opening I removed it completely.
I note there is an update to Foxit do I just run this and it will update the version I have?
The one I have is working for me but wondered about the way to update if I need to.
Paranoid2000
April 1st, 2006, 12:36 PM
-{ Quote: "It will not conflict one way or the other...:dry: ::) are you sure? ???
Coz...I was thinking this was just like having two anti-virus both have running their real-time resident monitors...::) :blink:" }-Anti-virus resident monitors and firewalls are a special case. Generally, having multiple programs to do a particular job poses no problem (e.g. multiple web browsers, word processors, image viewers), the only issue is that only one can be set up as a default for when you double-click on a file within Windows Explorer.
One (and only) downside of Foxit is that it cannot be used "within" a browser to view a PDF - you have to download the file first then view it. I consider that a small price for getting shot of Adobe's bloatware though - and 5.05 is bloated even if of supermodel proportions compared to their later versions.
WSFuser
April 1st, 2006, 04:06 PM
-{ Quote: "I note there is an update to Foxit do I just run this and it will update the version I have?
The one I have is working for me but wondered about the way to update if I need to." }-
well foxit comes in two versions, a zipped executable and a setup file.
if u previously used the setup, u can just install it over.
if u previously used the executable just download it again and overwrite the executable.
aigle
April 1st, 2006, 07:12 PM
-{ Quote: "One (and only) downside of Foxit is that it cannot be used "within" a browser to view a PDF - you have to download the file first then view it. I consider that a small price for getting shot of Adobe's bloatware though - and 5.05 is bloated even if of supermodel proportions compared to their later versions." }-
Really!!! I just came to know it first time, and also checked it, you are right. so I can,t uninstall Acrobat. It,s a big drawback for me and I am really disappointed as I mentioned above my main problenm with Acrobat was while I use it online, otherwise I have nothing much to do with PDF documents.
I will try speed up patch told by Vampiric. Is there any other way around?
aigle
April 1st, 2006, 07:17 PM
-{ Quote: "I have Foxit as I only need to read pdf files. Adobe was so slow at opening I removed it completely.
I note there is an update to Foxit do I just run this and it will update the version I have?
The one I have is working for me but wondered about the way to update if I need to." }-
It was trying to updating many times on my notebook and was not able to do so. Also pretty big updates( it,s not an AV, why so big updates). So I disabled it,s autolaoding on start up and stopped all updates, Why to update BTW?
aigle
April 1st, 2006, 07:21 PM
-{ Quote: "The only irritation with Foxit is the advertising in the top-right of the window (yes, its small and can be disabled via View/Advertisement until you restart Foxit) ." }-
Not only foxit but Acrobat is also showing this type of Ads on my system!! Am I right?
BTW, I did not felt it annoying, it,s very smal, good looking, and placed well, far from main window, without any distraction for me.
aigle
April 1st, 2006, 07:23 PM
-{ Quote: "I am still surfing, and have just downloaded it an hour or more ago, pls don't be too fast, haven't installed yet anything to speed-up my Adobe Reader. Maybe, I'll just tell ya here after several days of testing. ;D ;)" }-
Ok, we will wait for the results, in the mean time I will try to do it as well.
StevieO
April 1st, 2006, 07:34 PM
Paranoid2000
Thanks for the Reg trick tip ! Havn't tried it yet though, but i trust ya.
. . .
I do like Foxit as it really is faster to load and a much lighter App. But it always seems to set itself as the default pdf viewer without permission ?
Also i have found that some of the graphics/type is not always as good as it could/should be ? And sometimes it sticks for seconds when scrolling down large pdf's ?
But all in all a nice little alternative to Mr. Bloatware.
StevieO
Paranoid2000
April 1st, 2006, 08:14 PM
-{ Quote: "Really!!! I just came to know it first time, and also checked it, you are right. so I can,t uninstall Acrobat. It,s a big drawback for me and I am really disappointed as I mentioned above my main problenm with Acrobat was while I use it online, otherwise I have nothing much to do with PDF documents." }-Really? I use Foxit for online PDFs also and don't find it a big issue - just click on the document, let my browser/download manager download it and then open it in Foxit. Adobe's speed (lack of) is a far greater irritation to me, but then that is a balance each user has to decide.
As for advertising, this is certainly a personal thing but I find any advertising objectionable. If Adobe is doing the same thing, then that just makes me happier that I've not touched the latest versions of their products.
SteveiO,
Changing the Help/Set to Default PDF Reader setting in Foxit should resolve your issue.
Rmus
April 1st, 2006, 08:43 PM
-{ Quote: "I will try speed up patch told by Vampiric. Is there any other way around?" }-The slow speed is due to the loading of plugins. This fix works for Acrobat 6.0. Check the files to see if they are the same in 7.0 before doing it.
Essentially, you set things up to load just necessary ones: Print, Search is all I use.
Acrobat loads now in 3-4 seconds. I've never found it a bother to use.
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Navigate to The Acrobat 6.0 folder in Explorer,
locate the plug_ins subfolder and rename this folder to plug_ins_disabled.
Create a new plug_ins folder.
Move the files EWH32.api, printme.api and search.api from plug_ins_disabled to plug_ins.
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aigle
April 1st, 2006, 11:26 PM
Just found this information.
http://www.snapfiles.com/opinions/Adobe_Reader_Speed-Up/Adobe_Reader_Speed-Up.html
aigle
April 2nd, 2006, 12:07 PM
Ok, I could bot wait and tried both acrobatic "patches" one by one. I visited just a few online PDF documents and did not notice any significant gain by any one of them in spite of setting them for maximum tweaks. Also Adobe Reader Speed Up is buggy as you can,t reverse the changes made by it, it gives error message and asks to reverse the changes manually. That,s bad.
In the meanwhile I think I have found the answer for me. I installed PDF download extension for firefox. When you click for an online PDF doc, It gives you options Open, Download, View as HTML or Cancel. It,s nice and I can use it with foxit reader now. However option Open doesn,t work for me( a bug in extension I think), it just acts as Download.
rdsu
April 2nd, 2006, 12:28 PM
-{ Quote: "Ok, I could bot wait and tried both acrobatic "patches" one by one. I visited just a few online PDF documents and did not notice any significant gain by any one of them in spite of setting them for maximum tweaks. Also Adobe Reader Speed Up is buggy as you can,t reverse the changes made by it, it gives error message and asks to reverse the changes manually. That,s bad." }-
You should see improvements on Adobe startup time...
aigle
April 2nd, 2006, 01:20 PM
may be it will vary with others but I was not impressed at all. Reverted all the changes.
rdsu
April 2nd, 2006, 01:41 PM
-{ Quote: "may be it will vary with others but I was not impressed at all. Reverted all the changes." }-
If you apply the patch correctly, you will see the difference...
aigle
April 2nd, 2006, 02:21 PM
What do you mean by correctly. It,s not a big deal. I don,t know if there is some hidden issue.
aigle
April 5th, 2006, 07:24 PM
Just for update, I found Foxit can open online PDF while using IE but not with FF or Opera.
ErikAlbert
April 5th, 2006, 08:33 PM
Unfortunately, I have to stick with Adobe Reader. My bank statements are printed with AR.
Sometimes software requires self-sacrifices.
aigle
April 5th, 2006, 08:49 PM
foxit can,t read them?
ErikAlbert
April 5th, 2006, 08:59 PM
-{ Quote: "foxit can,t read them?" }-
I'm talking about online-banking and my bank prints these statements IN Adobe Reader. After that I can save it on my harddisk as a .pdf file.
After that I probably can read it with AR or Foxit, but that doesn't make any difference.
aigle
April 5th, 2006, 10:01 PM
Ah, I just forget about ONLINE issue.
ErikAlbert
April 5th, 2006, 10:08 PM
-{ Quote: "Ah, I just forget about ONLINE issue." }-
If I don't ask to print my statements on-line, they print them on paper and send them to me by postal mail and I have to pay for the stamp. So it's cheaper to print them on-line ;D
aigle
April 5th, 2006, 11:47 PM
So Adobe is the only option for u. That,s correct.
rdsu
April 6th, 2006, 03:27 AM
Foxit still have problems to load some images in PDF's...
aigle
April 6th, 2006, 10:31 AM
I am still having same problem with Acrobat. Eachtime I open some PDF document online and after shutting down my browser, when I shut down windows, I get the message that Adobe Acrobat Reader is not responding, and I have to shut it down manually. It,s really annoying. I uninstalled and reinstalled it but problem is still persisting.
ErikAlbert
April 6th, 2006, 10:37 AM
-{ Quote: "I am still having same problem with Acrobat. Eachtime I open some PDF document online and after shutting down my browser, when I shut down windows, I get the message that Adobe Acrobat Reader is not responding, and I have to shut it down manually. It,s really annoying. I uninstalled and reinstalled it but problem is still persisting." }-
I have the same problem. When I shutdown my computer and I have used Adobe Reader, I always have to close AR manually otherwise my shutdown keeps hanging.
Couldn't find the reason until now, but it's not my priority #1 either ;D
That's one of the reasons why I'm so interested in snapshot softwares. My assumption is that these clean snapshots will remove any annoying thing on my computer, whatever the cause (malware or not) may be and my new powerfull computer will be ready for this.
rdsu
April 6th, 2006, 12:07 PM
-{ Quote: "I am still having same problem with Acrobat. Eachtime I open some PDF document online and after shutting down my browser, when I shut down windows, I get the message that Adobe Acrobat Reader is not responding, and I have to shut it down manually. It,s really annoying. I uninstalled and reinstalled it but problem is still persisting." }-
I don't have that problem...
aigle
April 6th, 2006, 05:06 PM
U are liucky enough.
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