View Full Version : Your favourite second choice Web Browser
aigle
March 18th, 2006, 01:04 AM
Many of us like to use multiple web browsers. It is now well known( at least according to my knowledge) that Web Brwser of first choice ranking is as follows
1- IE and
2- Firefox
I mean to say most used default browser is IE, then comes Firefox.
I constructed this pool just to know what is the most popular second line web browser? For me, it is IE( firefox is my default). I do use Opera also but not frquently( just felt it a bit faster to load and surf than IE and FF!!).
I did not incluse Mac browser.
donsan
March 18th, 2006, 03:13 AM
i use firefox as my first choice and opera for my second browser, not that i do not like ie it's just when you get used to using tabs it's hard to use a browser that does not have that feature. i tried the tool bar's that support tabs but i didn't really like the extra bulk.plus the fact it is nice to be able to change skins.
manOFpeace
March 18th, 2006, 03:32 AM
IE6 for me. I had Firefox and Avant in for a short while. I was glad to see the back of them and get back to IE6. 8)
aigle
March 18th, 2006, 04:06 AM
-{ Quote: " not that i do not like ie it's just when you get used to using tabs it's hard to use a browser that does not have that feature." }-
You are absolutely right. I hate no tabs in IE.
-{ Quote: "
i tried the tool bar's that support tabs but i didn't really like the extra bulk.plus the fact it is nice to be able to change skins." }-
I tried this with MSN search, not good,
1- U have to install MSN search, no option not to instal it.
2- Very bad interface, when u click for new tab, whole of IE trembles like there is earthquake on ur screen, installed twice and removed.
3- ih u hide MSN toolbar, tab function disappers too.
Has any body tried tabbed browsing of IE7 Beta?
Ga1tar
March 18th, 2006, 04:21 AM
1.......Opera
2.......IE6
3.......Firefox
Firefox was at one stage number 2, but lately there is something about it which drives me crazy which resulted in its demotion.
aigle
March 18th, 2006, 05:43 AM
-{ Quote: " lately there is something about it which drives me crazy which resulted in its demotion." }-
Some secret?
StevieO
March 18th, 2006, 06:20 AM
First = IE second = IE
Yes no kidding, very fast at loading and also rendering pages, and as safe as you want to make it, if you choose to !
StevieO
Eldar
March 18th, 2006, 08:01 AM
FireFox is my second choice. 8)
Opera my first. :thumb:
sweater
March 18th, 2006, 08:36 AM
I just use Firefox browser...;) and I don't have any second choice..:blink: Firefox satisfies me even if it eats up ram memory which I am waiting to be fixed by the developers. :ouch: :wacko:
Though, I also use IE but not much, only when firefox has some problems w some sites, or I can't download something on firefox..:P ;) ;D
Slovak
March 18th, 2006, 09:40 AM
Opera is my only browser of choice, and IE would be my second choice, but only for windows updates.
Osaban
March 18th, 2006, 11:48 AM
-{ Quote: "Opera is my only browser of choice, and IE would be my second choice, but only for windows updates." }-
Ditto.
snowbound
March 18th, 2006, 11:51 AM
-{ Quote: "FireFox is my second choice. 8)
Opera my first. :thumb:" }-
Same story here. :thumb:
snowbound
Alphalutra1
March 18th, 2006, 11:57 AM
K-Meleon is my first browser (my mouse can hardly keep up with the loading pages ;D ) and Opera is my second. They both share the same bookmark file(an excellent feature of K-meleon), so it depends on my mood if I use Opera. I use Maxthon for windows update.
Alphalutra1
aigle
March 18th, 2006, 06:32 PM
I insatlled IE 7 beta today. U can see it with many toolbars( google, sitehound and Siteadvisor). It looks nice, though user interface could be improved much.
WSFuser
March 19th, 2006, 12:16 AM
firefox is my first choice with opera my second. like people have previously commented on, once u use tabs, its hard not to.
Carver
March 19th, 2006, 12:31 AM
1.Opera
2.firefox
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3.IE
The only thing I use IE for is Windows update.
dylanfan
March 19th, 2006, 01:52 AM
Opera as default
http://www.opera.com/
and Opera Tech Previews as second
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=128758
aigle
March 19th, 2006, 02:45 AM
-{ Quote: "1.Opera
2.firefox
.
.
3.IE
The only thing I use IE for is Windows update." }-
U mean you don,t go for auto updates.
bigbuck
March 19th, 2006, 02:51 AM
I use Opera and occasionally FF.
Wife uses FF.
IE for Windows Updates.
the Tester
March 19th, 2006, 03:16 AM
My 2nd browser is FF.Opera is my first choice.
IE for Windows Updates only.
aigle
March 19th, 2006, 05:16 AM
-{ Quote: "K-Meleon is my first browser (my mouse can hardly keep up with the loading pages ;D )
Alphalutra1" }-
What,s new in K-Meleon.
Hard Rocker
March 19th, 2006, 06:45 AM
1) Firefox :)
2) Opera ;)
HR 8)
Triple Helix
March 19th, 2006, 10:30 AM
1. Opera
2. IE
3.Firefox
Chris12923
March 19th, 2006, 10:37 AM
-{ Quote: "Opera is my only browser of choice, and IE would be my second choice, but only for windows updates." }-
Same here
Thanks,
Chris
YeOldeStonecat
March 19th, 2006, 10:38 AM
1) Opera
2) IE...for windows updates, OWA at the office, and some wholesaler websites that only work correctly in IE.
I use Opera for the speed.
bigc73542
March 20th, 2006, 09:28 AM
Second choice is Firefox first is Opera and a third would be Netscape
aigle
March 20th, 2006, 10:47 AM
Personally I think opera is fastest of all with nice UI, but I miss the nice themes and extensions of firefox on opera.
Gary7
March 20th, 2006, 11:24 AM
1. Firefox
2. Opera.
3. IE Only for Windows Update.
sweater
March 23rd, 2006, 02:45 AM
Actually, my main browser is Firefox coz it has many extensions to choose from. And now I am trying out the new K-Meleon...:D and found out this is fast and I am on dial-ups. Maybe, this could be becoming my second browser. :thumb:
SSK
March 23rd, 2006, 03:55 AM
Opera first for now.
IE7 looks really nice, so I'll keep my eye on it :)
Firefox is gone for now. Don't like the way it is behaving on my machine. :lurking:
the_sly_dog
March 23rd, 2006, 09:00 AM
firefox :lurking: :lurking: :lurking: :lurking:
Brian N
March 23rd, 2006, 02:47 PM
Firefox + extensions .. Priceless really.
You don't have that much control over Opera that you can actually make an extension just like that (yeah yeah I know the ad-filter thingy, never worked here).
c0ltran3
March 23rd, 2006, 03:10 PM
My favourite browser is Opera. Sometimes I use Maxthon.
bellgamin
March 23rd, 2006, 09:25 PM
-{ Quote: "What,s new in K-Meleon." }-Even MORE speed. zzzzzzzip!!!
#1- K-meleon
#2- OffX1
#3- FF
zapjb
March 24th, 2006, 12:32 AM
-{ Quote: "1.......Opera
2.......IE6
3.......Firefox
Firefox was at one stage number 2, but lately there is something about it which drives me crazy which resulted in its demotion." }-
I agree. FF 1.5 was a big disappointment. Don't even have FF installed. When 2.0 goes final, I'll try it again.
aigle
March 24th, 2006, 10:20 AM
-{ Quote: "I agree. FF 1.5 was a big disappointment. Don't even have FF installed. When 2.0 goes final, I'll try it again." }-
Wat dissappointment? BTW I am using it with no problems.
ugly
March 25th, 2006, 03:49 AM
OPERA is nr. 1 !
IE is just there as a second choise.
Infinity
March 25th, 2006, 02:17 PM
I used to use Maxthon for two years, even experienced da overtaking :) .., but at the end it still uses the same IE engine, with the same flaws/exploits, .. most of the times Maxthon took care off it faster then Microsoft ..
I do not use Maxthon anymore, I have FFX installed (you just gotta love those extensions :D) and Opera ... but there are a lot of times I'm just using plain ol' IE with Admuncher active in systray .. I have a faster response time with IE then with any other browser .. contradictorial? possibly .. I guess it's the WIFI connection at the moment :D I surely hope so ...
Smokey
March 25th, 2006, 06:21 PM
1. Maxthon
2. IE
ErikAlbert
March 26th, 2006, 04:38 PM
1. MSIE, as default browser for Windows Update, online-banking and to visit a few regular safe websites (Wilders is one of them).
2. Firefox with AdBlock, NoScript, no java, no cookies for surfing and searching on the net.
I don't need a third browser. I have already one too many. :)
aigle
March 26th, 2006, 06:40 PM
-{ Quote: "1. MSIE, as default browser for Windows Update, online-banking and to visit a few regular safe websites (Wilders is one of them).
2. Firefox with AdBlock, NoScript, no java, no cookies for surfing and searching on the net.
I don't need a third browser. I have already one too many. :)" }-
Give opera a try as well.
Mr2cents
March 27th, 2006, 10:17 PM
1. Firefox
2. K-Melon
3. Opera
What's IE? :)
aigle
March 28th, 2006, 01:46 AM
-{ Quote: "
What's IE? :)" }-
One of them!
Mele20
March 28th, 2006, 08:19 AM
I couldn't answer the poll because it lists IE and not IE6 vs IE7. I seldom used IE for the past four years and detest IE6. However, I love IE7beta2 (March edition). It's buggy but it is going to be a fine browser eventually and so I now consider it my second choice. I would never put IE6 as a second choice though. First choice is Fx but when IE7 goes Gold, it may become first choice.
Upasaka
March 28th, 2006, 08:24 AM
1) K Meleon 0.912
2) Firefox
3) IE6 for Microsoft Update only.
Moore
March 28th, 2006, 11:00 PM
Greenbrowser mainly -> http://www.morequick.com/indexen.htm , no install version available , has more features than you can shake a stick at , doesnt have alll the plugins that Maxthon has though..but based on the same code.. It's easlily the best tabbed browser I ever used , and sometimes I'll use Opera and IE for testing/hijack purposes.
rve123
March 29th, 2006, 01:54 PM
First is Firefox :)
Second is Internet Explorer, and that is only for update's.
I could also say that IE is my first, because update's are important and Windows Update isn't possible without IE... ;)
TOMxEU
March 30th, 2006, 05:25 AM
1. IE, 2. I voted Others, since I do not need any other browser. :)
TonyW
March 30th, 2006, 07:03 AM
Firefox is my main browser at the mo with IE being used sometimes.
TOMxEU
April 1st, 2006, 10:56 AM
You can try, how fast will your browser open this little test (http://s62.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0PCLSABI3PEZX3T48RHNZ0X1DB). IE7 B2 opens it, with clean cache, in 6-7 seconds. Last time, when I tested it, Opera was first, IE second and Firefox third.
aigle
April 1st, 2006, 06:04 PM
Pretty dissappointing as the site is censored by my proxy server. Can,t test, may be others can tel what are their results?
Carver
April 1st, 2006, 11:46 PM
How fast will your browser load a web page http://www.numion.com/Stopwatch/watch.gif Take this test http://www.numion.com/Stopwatch/
~*Nat*~
April 2nd, 2006, 09:42 PM
Firefox is my favorite. But unfortunately slow, slow, slow...and freezes on my pc too often. :(
So then I use my other fav. Opera ! :)
Nice, light and fast. I miss some of the extensions of FF though.
Arup
April 2nd, 2006, 11:25 PM
Opera for primary,Maxthon for secondary here.
aigle
April 3rd, 2006, 02:45 AM
-{ Quote: "How fast will your browser load a web page http://www.numion.com/Stopwatch/watch.gif Take this test http://www.numion.com/Stopwatch/" }-
I tried it. Don,t think that it can be very much objective, gave mixed results but opera is fastest. FF and IE equal or FF faster, but of course FF is safer.
Currently I am trying to use Opera mainly, the best thing in it is that you don,t need to install a lot of extensions to work. Opear has many built in functions by default but yet takes less resources, has a very neat and clean look by default and is fatest. I am realy impressed.
FF extensions sometimes are buggy and become annoying. But still I am more used to with it.
Security Freak
April 3rd, 2006, 10:43 PM
-{ Quote: "
What's IE? :)" }-
the one you use sometimes for updating your machine,or maybe you never run an update and you download them in third party pages.
mercurie
April 3rd, 2006, 11:24 PM
I.E. backup and specificlly designated tasks only.
Firefox is browser of first choice.
CJsDad
April 8th, 2006, 09:34 AM
I use Opera as my first and onnly choice, unless someone knows of another browser that is worth checking out I wont be looking into a second browser of choice.
FWIW I downloaded FireFox a couple of nights ago and after playing around with the browser I immediately removed FF.
The last time I was a regular user of this web browser was about 3-4 years ago.
What has happend to FF?
aigle
April 8th, 2006, 11:11 AM
-{ Quote: "I use Opera as my first and onnly choice, unless someone knows of another browser that is worth checking out I wont be looking into a second browser of choice.
FWIW I downloaded FireFox a couple of nights ago and after playing around with the browser I immediately removed FF.
The last time I was a regular user of this web browser was about 3-4 years ago.
What has happend to FF?" }-
What was bad in it especially.
crookit
April 8th, 2006, 01:24 PM
1) Firefox
2) Opera
CJsDad
April 8th, 2006, 01:25 PM
-{ Quote: "What was bad in it especially." }-
First thing was how slow it was, it wasnt like that when I was a regular FF user and I was on a much older computer at the time, I just got this computer I'm now using about a month ago.
The same exact websites that I go to using Opera were loading much slower using FF.
Then I checked out the extensions, the plug ins and the themes and I was amazed at the amount of extras that FF had put into their program compared to about 3-4 years ago.
Is there really a reason for all of it?
Seems to make the browser more "buggy".
I saw the extension "No Script" and that other one I can't recall the name of it but it is supposed to make FF faster.
I don't even use everything thats available on Opera so I know for a fact I'm not going to use those extensions on FF
When it all comes down to it, I like to surf the web lightly, and I don't need a program or web browser with a dozen or more extensions to that.
Meltdown
April 8th, 2006, 01:59 PM
From what you say about Firefox, K-Meleon (http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/) might you suit as a second browser. Like Firefox, it uses the Gecko engine, but is much lighter. I run it as my main browser, with Windows XP, but it also runs well on older computers - I installed on a friend's Win98, Pentium II 350 MHz system, and it was just as speedy as on my PC. It's highly configurable, but many options - for instance, moving buttons on the toolbars - can only been implemented by editing text files, so there's a slight learning curve. IMO the time invested into tweaking it pays off.
* edit - Hell, I sound like a shill. ;D
aigle
April 8th, 2006, 04:49 PM
-{ Quote: "First thing was how slow it was, it wasnt like that when I was a regular FF user and I was on a much older computer at the time, I just got this computer I'm now using about a month ago." }-
I agree opera is faster but not too much difference noted by me( I use dial up).
-{ Quote: "
Then I checked out the extensions.......and I don't need a program or web browser with a dozen or more extensions to that." }-
To get many functions/ options which come in Opera by default, u need many extensions in FF( again a plus point for Opera). The extensions can be buggy but not all, u have to mtey. I use 10 or more without any problems.
And regarding, the use of other functions/ extensions from browser, it,s just a matter of personal liking, to me it,s a plus point, rather than a disadvantage.
With IE my surfing was never so easy and interesting until I used FF and Opera.
CJsDad
April 8th, 2006, 06:28 PM
I agree it is a personal liking.
So many people still prefer FF as their browser of choice and will see it no other way, which to me is not a problem at all.
When I tell people I use Opera I get responses like "Opera?" like they've never heard of it.
aigle
April 8th, 2006, 07:10 PM
-{ Quote: "I agree it is a personal liking.
So many people still prefer FF as their browser of choice and will see it no other way, which to me is not a problem at all.
When I tell people I use Opera I get responses like "Opera?" like they've never heard of it." }-
Opera is really fantastic. To be true, it,s the best browser there. It has so many functions by default that u need dozens of extensions in FF to do all that. And I like its clean and neet look the most, really smart.
I guess if Opera was free from beginning, it might be more popular than firefox.
Robyn
April 9th, 2006, 07:04 AM
I always wanted to try Firefox but have never installed it - would be more encouraged to try if the reports on a slow browser + the memory leak 'feature' were not prevelant. I have it downloaded each time and then read posts about the slow factor :(
I always focus on posts related to FF and would seriously consider a test run if only the browser wasn't reported a sloooow.
I had Opera (not out of choice but as a test) before it became a free browser - I did not like those ads even though I did not give the browser a chance as it didn't help with the issue I had at that time.
When Opera had the license giveaway + the encouragement given by Eldar I decided to try Opera again. I must admit the first while was love/hate but now I really do like the browser and can't wait for Opera 9 to be out of beta :) cookie handling was tedious.
I agree more would be using Opera if it had been free sooner and think Firefox is highly rated due to the fact users can add extensions - have never had this so I don't miss it in Opera (although an easy to use ad. filter would be nice) my current firewall filters ads. but I may be installing a new firewall without this.
If I ever did install FF I don't think I would have endless extensions as this is when I feel FF encouters conflicts/crashes.
I only use IE for essential things otherwise I am mainly using Opera.
I wonder if the search for alternatives will be curtailed when IE7 is out of beta (doubt it will give much more apart from the fact it will be tabbed - at last)
At least I can use tabs for the essential IE use then and not need Avant (old version).
aigle
April 9th, 2006, 08:50 AM
-{ Quote: "I always wanted to try Firefox but have never installed it - would be more encouraged to try if the reports on a slow browser + the memory leak 'feature' were not prevelant. I have it downloaded each time and then read posts about the slow factor :(
I always focus on posts related to FF and would seriously consider a test run if only the browser wasn't reported a sloooow." }-
U can,t know unless u try it. If u don,t like there is always uninstall option.
-{ Quote: "
I wonder if the search for alternatives will be curtailed when IE7 is out of beta (doubt it will give much more apart from the fact it will be tabbed - at last)
At least I can use tabs for the essential IE use then and not need Avant (old version)." }-
For me its, nothing but IE 6 plus tabs. Very poor work compared to Opera and FF!
CJsDad
April 9th, 2006, 09:49 AM
I'm trying K-Meleon now, it definitley has to be configured to your liking.
It's fast, faster than FF but now I'm trying to figure out how to use this web browser on more than one user account.
Any K-Meleon users know how to use this browser under more than one user account?
I went into the program files and loaded the program for my wife but what happens is I end up getting all of my settings installed instead of the default settings for K-Meleon.
Is this program even capable of having more than one user on the same PC?
CJsDad
April 9th, 2006, 10:14 AM
Never mind I found the answer to the question that I was looking for
aigle
April 9th, 2006, 12:51 PM
I tried it for only few hours or less and uninstalled. First I did not realize so significan spped difference. Secondly UI not so nice. And finally difficult to configure. Opera and FF are enough with IE sometimes.
Meltdown
April 9th, 2006, 01:32 PM
-{ Quote: "First I did not realize so significan spped difference." }-Agreed. Despite K-Meleon's reputation as a speed demon, I find rendering speeds in KM, Opera and Firefox all about the same. Where it does have the edge over Firefox is in launch time, especially on older PCs.
Also lower memory use than Firefox, comparable with Opera on my system.
But all three are good browsers, IMO.
aigle
April 9th, 2006, 02:56 PM
Firefox has the longets delay to lauch, the only thing i hate in it.
stalker
April 9th, 2006, 07:53 PM
Well, I use Firefox as my main browser of choice, while I also use IE. I use IE mostly for those sites that I visit only once, since I placed it's "Temporary Internet Files" directory (and "Cookies" and "History" too) to my RAM drive. So it's completely gone on each reboot/shutdown; btw. if anyone is maybe interested, please read the "THE RAM DRIVE/DISK PRINCIPLE" entry on my home-site's principles.html (http://users.volja.net/tayiper/principles.html) page. But IE is certainly not a "favourite", that's why I voted for the Others( please write) option ...
Finally, it's also true that I occasionally even use Off By One (http://www.OffByOne.com), the most secure web browser ever. For descriptions and download link of Off By One and other security related programs, see my profile at CastleCops: userinfo-satyr.html (http://castlecops.com/userinfo-satyr.html) and look below under "Last 10 Downloads Submitted by satyr:"
best regards, stalker
CJsDad
April 10th, 2006, 11:54 AM
-{ Quote: "Well, I use Firefox as my main browser of choice, while I also use IE. I use IE mostly for those sites that I visit only once, since I placed it's "Temporary Internet Files" directory (and "Cookies" and "History" too) to my RAM drive. So it's completely gone on each reboot/shutdown; btw. if anyone is maybe interested, please read the "THE RAM DRIVE/DISK PRINCIPLE" entry on my home-site's principles.html (http://users.volja.net/tayiper/principles.html) page. But IE is certainly not a "favourite", that's why I voted for the Others( please write) option ...
Finally, it's also true that I occasionally even use Off By One (http://www.OffByOne.com), the most secure web browser ever. For descriptions and download link of Off By One and other security related programs, see my profile at CastleCops: userinfo-satyr.html (http://castlecops.com/userinfo-satyr.html) and look below under "Last 10 Downloads Submitted by satyr:"
best regards, stalker" }-
I tried OffByOne.
Good thing is it doesn't use alot of resources, thats a definite plus and its faster than FF without a doubt.
Its not "the fastest" because it seems to be on the same speed with Opera and K-Meleon, not much of a difference.
It doesnt promote java script at all so if some pages require it and your using this web browser, forget it, no adjustments for it either.
There are also some settings that you can configure, No Script, No Frames, load images, animated images, etc., just one click for each and you can enable or disable these settings.
However, the GUI needs work, not that its a bother for me, but when I went to try the program I thought I had clicked on Adobe Acrobat Reader by mistake, it definitely resembles Adobe.
There is other work that needs to be done with this program but with some configuration of the web browser most people can work with it.
This browser doesnt come with all the bells and whistles of other browsers, thats for sure.
Alphalutra1
April 10th, 2006, 05:18 PM
Yeah 0b1 has some disadvantages, but it is great for use on an usb drive since it keeps everything in the RAM, and only saves persistent cookies to the harddrive once the browser is closed. This means less writes and a longer lasting usb drive. In addition, it is only 1.4 MB, which is very small for a browser. That's why I use it for my usb, but nothing else. That duty is for Opera right now.
Alphalutra1
aigle
April 10th, 2006, 07:13 PM
On USB u mean, U-3 flash drives?
stalker
April 10th, 2006, 08:26 PM
-{ Quote: "I tried OffByOne.
Good thing is it doesn't use alot of resources, thats a definite plus and its faster than FF without a doubt.
Its not "the fastest" because it seems to be on the same speed with Opera and K-Meleon, not much of a difference.
It doesnt promote java script at all so if some pages require it and your using this web browser, forget it, no adjustments for it either.
There are also some settings that you can configure, No Script, No Frames, load images, animated images, etc., just one click for each and you can enable or disable these settings.
However, the GUI needs work, not that its a bother for me, but when I went to try the program I thought I had clicked on Adobe Acrobat Reader by mistake, it definitely resembles Adobe.
There is other work that needs to be done with this program but with some configuration of the web browser most people can work with it.
This browser doesnt come with all the bells and whistles of other browsers, thats for sure." }-
Yeah, Off By One is just great for those certain sites and it's quite fast too (especially on "realoading" and "refreshing"); but I use it really just for "those certain sites" (dangerous/suspicious ones etc.), i.e. normally I like that docs/graphics are cached by a web-browser, after all, I am on 56K dial-up and the actual line transmission speed is of course much lower than the modem's full potential, i.e. I usually established a connection at 28.8 Kbps (as I was told by ISP support people, because of the types of phone cables/lines here in Slovenija), while only sometimes I connect at 31.2 Kbps; and most of the times only when connecting with one particular account of the three free ISPs I've registered. But it doesn't make much difference anyways.
Additionally alse check out the OffByOne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OffByOne) page/article on Wikipedia that I 've created or participated in editing (my nick is "Wayfarer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wayfarer) "), but you can also check the DNSKong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNSKong) one about the DNSKong program (this one I 've created myself); a caching/filtering local DNS server software, a really good program that I use for a year now or so. For further details on Off By One web-browser, optionally see the Off By One Web Browser (http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/99609816/m/872004842731) thread that I opened on ArsTechnica and the The most secure browser - Off By One web browser ... (http://castlecops.com/p546692-The_most_secure_browser_Off_By_One_web_browser.html) one that I opened on the CastleCops forums (my nick is "satyr (http://castlecops.com/userinfo-satyr.html)"), and while you're at it, see also the DNSKong - a personal caching/filtering psuedo-DNS server (http://castlecops.com/postp529007.html) thread that is about the DNSKong program mentioned above.
cheers all, stalker
Alphalutra1
April 10th, 2006, 09:02 PM
-{ Quote: "On USB u mean, U-3 flash drives?" }-
I wish, my USB Lexar Standard drive with only 128 MB. I don't have a U-3, though if you want you can buy me one ;D (preferably a 1GB, usb 2.0)
OB1 also works off a cd since it doesn't have to write to a media, only to the RAM.
Alphalutra1
aigle
April 10th, 2006, 10:43 PM
-{ Quote: " if you want you can buy me one ;D (preferably a 1GB, usb 2.0)
Alphalutra1" }-
Sure! I can but ....... only problem is money, otherwise I would have bought also.
aigle
April 10th, 2006, 10:54 PM
-{ Quote: "Yeah, Off By One is just great for those certain sites and it's quite fast too (especially on "realoading" and "refreshing"); but I use it really just for "those certain sites" (dangerous/suspicious ones etc.), i.e. normally I like that docs/graphics are cached by a web-browser, after all, I am on 56K dial-up and the actual line transmission speed is of course much lower than the modem's full potential, i.e. I usually established a connection at 28.8 Kbps (as I was told by ISP support people, because of the types of phone cables/lines here in Slovenija), while only sometimes I connect at 31.2 Kbps; and most of the times only when connecting with one particular account of the three free ISPs I've registered. But it doesn't make much difference anyways.
" }-
So there is no address bar, each time u have to open the address box?
And no tabs?
aigle
April 10th, 2006, 10:58 PM
Ok, I found the tabs, but what about address bar?
But doesn,t seem to be faster than Opera. I am using it right now. A strange look of wilders on it!
Alphalutra1
April 11th, 2006, 07:12 AM
Just hit Ctrl and W at the same time and it will appear in a box. I like it that way anyways, saves room. For a new tab, just press Crtl and T at the same time.
Alphalutra1
CJsDad
April 11th, 2006, 10:14 AM
For the Firefox users here, have you heard of this web browser called Flock?
Its based on FireFox, still in beta, the latest release just came out on March 14th, runs on the same engine as FF.
Some people that used to work for Mozilla are now part of the Flock staff.
Even has some of the extensions that FF has, AdBlock, NoScript.
Bad thing is the current version of this browser is larger than the FF current version :o but they even admit they have alot to work on and have a page of release notes for you to check out to see what they are doing, what they plan on doing and all the bug fixes.
There is a web page that shows all 25 people involved in working on this browser and they said that they are open to suggestions and anything else you may find that will help make Flock a better browser.
Now this all seems good but when all is said and done it is still a beta version and since it was just released a couple of weeks ago who knows how long until a final release.
Jakrinda
April 13th, 2006, 09:20 AM
1. Firefox
2. IE
Lamehand
April 13th, 2006, 10:30 AM
1. Firefox
2. Firefox
No need for something else at the moment, it does the job.
marcromero
April 20th, 2006, 06:12 PM
IE, first and second choice.
stalker
April 27th, 2006, 11:35 AM
-{ Quote: "For the Firefox users here, have you heard of this web browser called Flock?" }-
Yeah, in fact I have heard of the Flock web-browser, however, I thought that it's not only a web-browser, but beside that it's some kind of "community" (or "on-line bookmarking" service)
I didn't try it out though, because IIRC it was still in the "alpha" stage of developement back then when I visited the site.
stalker
Rasheed187
May 3rd, 2006, 09:39 AM
My first browser is Maxthon (IE based) I use it about 97% of the time. Sometimes certain pages do not display well in IE so I then fire up FF or sometimes Opera.
But to answer the question, FF is my second choice because of the extensions. Too bad that it starts up very slowly. Opera also has got a couple of nice features but it´s really not good enough. Plus I got a strange problem, especially after zooming, fonts get blurry in Opera. :blink:
stalker
May 4th, 2006, 05:57 PM
-{ Quote: "But to answer the question, FF is my second choice because of the extensions. Too bad that it starts up very slowly." }-
You may want to try out the Firefox Preloader (https://sourceforge.net/projects/ffpreloader) program to speed-up the Firefox execution (basically, it pre-loads some parts of the browser into RAM); I surely use it for quite some time now.
hope this helps, stalker
aigle
May 4th, 2006, 09:07 PM
Hi, just gave it a try but infact did not get any gain at all. I measured the time taken by firefox to load by stopwatch. On my system, XP Home SP2
Time taken normally 03.50 second( average)
After Preloader 03.50 second ( same as above)
Counted multiple times.
Note: After boot up, first launch of firefox( and any file) takes a bit longer and subsequent launches are quicker until I reboot. These times are not for first launch of firefox after a boot up of sytem( that takes even longer).
Rasheed187
May 5th, 2006, 04:22 PM
@ Stalker
Thanks for the tip but IMO a browser should not have to need such a tool, look at other browsers like Opera and DR Orca which is Gecko based, they both start up very fast, so there is no excuse, this needs to be improved. ::)
CJsDad
May 5th, 2006, 05:52 PM
With all of those extensions and themes no wonder FF needed to add another extension to their browser to make it faster.
How many extensions/themes can a person add before it effects the performance of their browser.
aigle
May 6th, 2006, 02:21 AM
i have about 22 exts and 5 themes approx. All ok.
CJsDad
May 6th, 2006, 06:44 AM
Well I downloaded FF for my wife, she has always liked this browser.
The only extension being used is No Script.
I already have Ad Muncher so I'm not going to worry about using Ad Block Plus.
However, in my opinion, with so many extensions comes so many updates and at some point how can people just keep up with all of it.
I'm still trying to figure out what the pupose is with all the extensions and themes.
Is it a sense of security?
Just for fun?
Oh well to each his/her own.
Rasheed187
May 6th, 2006, 03:14 PM
@ CJsDad
I´m not sure if extensions are the cause of FF´s slow startup, but I will test it. And if you don´t see the point of extensions and plugins you´re just not a power user. ;)
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