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Sonap
March 16th, 2006, 09:12 AM
Internet Explorer Or Firefox?

And Y?

sukarof
March 16th, 2006, 09:45 AM
Firefox.
Not so much for security anymore (cause I´ve just learned how to easily run IE as a restricted user when logged in as admin on XP)
I mainly use FF because all of the extensions that makes it faster and easier to browse the web. Simply put: I can configure the browser the way I want it.

bigc73542
March 16th, 2006, 09:49 AM
OPERA 9

Eldar
March 16th, 2006, 09:51 AM
-{ Quote: "OPERA 9" }-Same here. ;D

ErikAlbert
March 16th, 2006, 09:56 AM
Firefox of course and once my new computer is complete, I will try Opera too.
Practical, convenient and configurable.
The poll offers limited choices. There is more than one fish in the ocean, you know. :)

dog [away]
March 16th, 2006, 10:23 AM
I'd agree there are several more browsers available, but most are based on one or the other. Lynx is a nice text based browser, which I use semi-frequently. :) My main browser of choice is FF ... I love the flexibity.

Ga1tar
March 16th, 2006, 11:28 AM
Opera 9 :thumb:

Acadia
March 16th, 2006, 12:47 PM
Opera, no contest.

Acadia

sweater
March 16th, 2006, 12:48 PM
Firefox of course... ;D ...even if it eats up lots of ram memory. :'( :P

Best of all Lots of extensions and some other things not available to other brands out there. 8)

the Tester
March 16th, 2006, 02:53 PM
Opera!
If I had to choose between FF & IE, it's not even close.
FF.

dylanfan
March 16th, 2006, 04:08 PM
Opera, hands down.

Cheers

CJsDad
March 16th, 2006, 04:16 PM
Opera

Natas
March 16th, 2006, 05:07 PM
Opera,
hands down here also,but If I had to choose between IE7.0 and FF I would probably goto IE.But I use Opera on my machines and Opera Mini on all my portable and cell devices,and it out performs most if not all browser's.

RobZee
March 16th, 2006, 05:09 PM
Opera 9

se7engreen
March 16th, 2006, 05:31 PM
Opera, FF, the IE in that order. I do like Firefox's plugins a lot but for everyday use I find Opera to be faster and just a joy to use.

snowbound
March 16th, 2006, 05:32 PM
It's a wash. Opera it is. ;) ;D



snowbound

Slovak
March 16th, 2006, 06:11 PM
Opera

Antarctica
March 16th, 2006, 06:32 PM
FF at home and but I have to use IE for my work.:o

WSFuser
March 16th, 2006, 07:24 PM
firefox is my preferred choice with opera a far second. the functionality made possible by extensions is simply amazing and only makes firefox better.

rdsu
March 16th, 2006, 08:16 PM
Maxthon!

Also use Opera to check some websites...

securityx
March 17th, 2006, 12:12 AM
Usually, it's Firefox. However, I have been running with Opera lately and it's a damn good browser. It's been awhile since I had given Opera a test drive and they've come a long way. In many ways, it's far superior to anything else. I like the FF extensions, but only a few are must-have and Opera seems to be working those very functionalities into each release.

Osaban
March 17th, 2006, 08:29 AM
OPERA!

Get
March 17th, 2006, 08:59 AM
Firefox. I don't like Opera's look and the way it works and the fact Opera stubbornly refuses to have a default "Go"-button irritates me.. "Yeah!! That's a great idea!:thumb: Let's leave out that standard-button!:D!" ..Pfff :-\. IE? Yeah..right.

LIW
March 17th, 2006, 09:11 AM
Opera.

StevieO
March 18th, 2006, 06:22 AM
IE

Yes no kidding, very fast at loading and also rendering pages, and as safe as you want to make it, if you choose to !


StevieO

Pilli
March 18th, 2006, 06:38 AM
Opera here as my main browser, Avant which uses IE. for those sites that I trust and that need active x to work properly.
Linux FF in WMplayer for visiting any dodgy sites :)

Alphalutra1
March 18th, 2006, 11:58 AM
K-Meleon 8)

Alphalutra1

Dazza
March 20th, 2006, 12:48 PM
FF without a doubt..

Capp
March 20th, 2006, 12:49 PM
FireFox. Hands down.

Tried Opera, didn't really like it.
IE doesn't have all the cool features I enjoy with FF.

IE is my backup for those sites that don't look right or load properly within firefox.

Mongol
March 20th, 2006, 02:53 PM
A night at the Opera 8.5 here...:thumb: :)

Trooper
March 20th, 2006, 03:13 PM
Firefox for the win.

I've tried Opera a few times and just don't like it.

IE I have no use for at all.

~*Nat*~
March 20th, 2006, 03:46 PM
Firefox ! I love the flexability ~ and I sure got addicted browsing with tabs.
Wouldn't want to miss it anymore for anything. ;D

I also like Opera...but you can't do much with it... just that it's nice fast..unfortunately the Cookie functions are for Geniuses. :( ;)

timcan
March 20th, 2006, 05:46 PM
Opera with Dr. Web hyperlink scanner.:)

ErikAlbert
March 20th, 2006, 06:32 PM
I'm not worried or impressed by all these Opera fans.
One day Opera will have more security holes, than Firefox and then all these Opera fans will go back to Firefox, the most flexible browser on earth.

Being the safest browser is a matter of dates. We firefox users are fully aware of this and that's why we still use Firefox.
We only TRY Opera, because Opera is "in" at the moment and we don't want to discourage Opera fans either. ;D

Toby75
March 20th, 2006, 07:20 PM
Opera ;D

Alphalutra1
March 20th, 2006, 09:14 PM
-{ Quote: "I'm not worried or impressed by all these Opera fans.
One day Opera will have more security holes, than Firefox and then all these Opera fans will go back to Firefox, the most flexible browser on earth.

Being the safest browser is a matter of dates. We firefox users are fully aware of this and that's why we still use Firefox.
We only TRY Opera, because Opera is "in" at the moment and we don't want to discourage Opera fans either. ;D" }-

They also get really touchy when I tell them that I use K-Meleon which is even faster than there almighty "Opera". Then you add Treewalk DNS, and your mouse can't keep up with the pages ;D

Alphalutra1

Mongol
March 20th, 2006, 09:42 PM
-{ Quote: "I'm not worried or impressed by all these Opera fans.
One day Opera will have more security holes, than Firefox and then all these Opera fans will go back to Firefox, the most flexible browser on earth.

Being the safest browser is a matter of dates. We firefox users are fully aware of this and that's why we still use Firefox.
We only TRY Opera, because Opera is "in" at the moment and we don't want to discourage Opera fans either. ;D" }-

Actually for me its the bloat of Firefox that drove me away. It uses more CPU then Opera and IE6 combined on my computer at times. Right now Opera is running at 18,000K as I type this...::) :D

ErikAlbert
March 20th, 2006, 09:49 PM
-{ Quote: "They also get really touchy when I tell them that I use K-Meleon which is even faster than there almighty "Opera". Then you add Treewalk DNS, and your mouse can't keep up with the pages ;D " }-
Thanks for pouring more gasoline on the fire. These Opera fans need a lesson. ;) ;D

YeOldeStonecat
March 21st, 2006, 06:54 AM
Opera for the majority, obviously IE on sites that require it

Got sick of stuff not working in FF, through alllll the revisions I've tried. Opera also blows the doors off of FF speedwise.

Alphalutra1
March 21st, 2006, 06:07 PM
-{ Quote: "Thanks for pouring more gasoline on the fire. These Opera fans need a lesson. ;) ;D" }-
Anybody got a match??? Oh you have a flamethrower, that will do

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Alphalutra1

YeOldeStonecat
March 21st, 2006, 08:20 PM
-{ Quote: "They also get really touchy when I tell them that I use K-Meleon which is even faster than there almighty "Opera". Then you add Treewalk DNS, and your mouse can't keep up with the pages ;D

Alphalutra1" }-

I'd like to see some verifiable benchmarks for this, I've tried it, don't believe so, plus it's based on the (ugh) Gecko engine. Same rendering issues I had in FF were in this.

Using your own DNS would logically affect performance of any browser across the board.

Toby75
March 21st, 2006, 08:26 PM
-{ Quote: "I'd like to see some verifiable benchmarks for this, I've tried it, don't believe so, plus it's based on the (ugh) Gecko engine. Same rendering issues I had in FF were in this.

Using your own DNS would logically affect performance of any browser across the board." }-

Well said

Alphalutra1
March 21st, 2006, 08:36 PM
-{ Quote: "I'd like to see some verifiable benchmarks for this, I've tried it, don't believe so, plus it's based on the (ugh) Gecko engine. Same rendering issues I had in FF were in this.

Using your own DNS would logically affect performance of any browser across the board." }-


Let me rephrase what I said for all the Opera lovers whom I have undully offended. K-Meleon, for me renders pages quicker and loads them faster than opera does on my computer. It does the same on many of my friends computers in town.

I know that having my own DNS would help all of my browsers, and I have used it with Opera and K-Meleon, so it is not a factor in my "sense" of speed. I also have some tweaks enabled in K-Meleon in a customizable macro located at K-meleon's home page to make it load faster as well.

I wonder why the "(ugh) Gecko engine is so (ugh)? Is this a verifiable comment? ;D Likewise, it is all a matter of opinions. I prefer K-Meleon and it works faster on MY machine. I don't mind the Gecko engine, and everything loads just as fast. I also like how K-Meleon uses less RAM than other alternate browsers(firefox in particular). K-Meleon is also very customizable without the added bloat of extensions.

In the end, it is a matter of a person's pc, and there preferences. That is all.

Alphalutra1

TouchuvGrey
March 21st, 2006, 08:47 PM
The Fox Rules. Reasons, better security, extensions, themes, and plug ins. I have and use Opera occasionally.


Mike;D

Alphalutra1
March 21st, 2006, 09:14 PM
Just thought of another reason supporting k-meleon. This is an Opera lover trick against firefox and ie users.

Do the math:
K-Meleon (http://secunia.com/product/3684/)
Opera (http://secunia.com/product/4932/)

If my rememberance of elementary school serves me correctly, the difference is twelve, with k-meleon only having one.

Thought this might be interesting information for those tracking security vulnerabilities and the number each product has had in the past.

Alphalutra1

ErikAlbert
March 21st, 2006, 09:20 PM
-{ Quote: "In the end, it is a matter of a person's pc, and there preferences. That is all." }-
You got that right. Discussions like this are only good for a social chat and can last forever.
I like Firefox, you like K-Meleon, others like Opera. Who cares anyway ?
It would be boring if everybody used the same browser.

Alphalutra1
March 21st, 2006, 09:30 PM
-{ Quote: "You got that right. Discussions like this are only good for a social chat and can last forever.
I like Firefox, you like K-Meleon, others like Opera. Who cares anyway ?
It would be boring if everybody used the same browser." }-
Precisecly, I would hate it if everyone used the same browser, because then advancements in browser technology would stagnate since no competition and new ideas are made by other browsers. Just with security software, I am prone to change rather quickly my browsers. So who knows, I may be using Opera v9 in the next couple of months ;D . Then I would have to formulate a new argument to defend opera vs. other browsers. At least I know what to do in my free time :wacko: ;D

Alphalutra1

Mongol
March 21st, 2006, 10:23 PM
-{ Quote: "Just thought of another reason supporting k-meleon. This is an Opera lover trick against firefox and ie users.

Do the math:
K-Meleon (http://secunia.com/product/3684/)
Opera (http://secunia.com/product/4932/)

If my rememberance of elementary school serves me correctly, the difference is twelve, with k-meleon only having one.

Thought this might be interesting information for those tracking security vulnerabilities and the number each product has had in the past.

Alphalutra1" }-

Math can be fun. I noted that Firefox has 27 advisories with 2 of them currently unpatched...:o :D

mercurie
March 21st, 2006, 10:52 PM
The BIRD loves the FOX!!:thumb:

EASTER.2010
March 21st, 2006, 11:19 PM
Only the Quickest, Safest, and Bug-Free Best internet browser ever known to man on this earth.

O P E R A !!

Meltdown
March 22nd, 2006, 02:34 AM
-{ Quote: "Do the math:
K-Meleon (http://secunia.com/product/3684/)
Opera (http://secunia.com/product/4932/)" }-I'd treat Secunia's figures with caution; they're more to do with K-Meleon's relatively low profile, with less effort invested into discovering its weaknesses.

As both use the Gecko engine, most Firefox vulnerabilities have also applied to K-Meleon - this one (http://secunia.com/advisories/17934/) for instance - although K-Meleon is free of bugs related to Firefox's XUL interface.

FWIW K-Meleon is my main browser too. :)

MikeNash
March 22nd, 2006, 03:00 AM
Firefox - tabbed browsing (mouse-wheel click opens a link in new tab).

Tried opera - just didn't like the GUI.

Use IE for some intranet and banking applications.

Devil's Advocate
March 22nd, 2006, 08:43 AM
-{ Quote: "I'd treat Secunia's figures with caution; they're more to do with K-Meleon's relatively low profile, with less effort invested into discovering its weaknesses.
" }-

Probably true of Opera too. :)

manOFpeace
March 22nd, 2006, 07:59 PM
IE is my favorite, I tried FF and was glad to see the back of it. It was a nuisance when it had to use IE, then it became very disordered.
Just downloaded IE7 beta and it seems to be a good job. :o

TOMxEU
March 30th, 2006, 05:32 AM
I am IE fan, I used it for years. IE is the most configurable browser (talking about security settings) without additional extensions, so it can be set up to be really secure, but it still can not block referrers and it has problem blocking cookies effectively (even when set to High).

bathisland
March 30th, 2006, 05:57 AM
Opera........

Should be a given!!!!!!!!

TonyW
March 30th, 2006, 07:00 AM
I use both, but Firefox mostly mainly because of the tabbed browsing. If IE7 works well with its new tab functions, I may go back to using that exclusively.

marcromero
April 20th, 2006, 06:16 PM
I like IE and have never experienced the problems other people seem to experience using it, it works for me.

herbalist
April 22nd, 2006, 05:31 PM
Staying with the Mozilla suite since I use all of it. Runs circles around IE6. Don't like Firefox nearly as much. Haven't tried Opera.
Rick

Upasaka
April 23rd, 2006, 01:36 AM
I have changed my choice of browsers recently.

Firefox is no longer on my machines.......the more updates the worse performance has become.The latest version meant EVERY single extension I used was made unusable.If they are going to release an update it should be compatible with the extensions,which are always quoted as being the advantage of firefox.

Having tried IE7 Beta 2, I have to say I love it .This really is a good browser ,
very nice to use.

My other browser of choice is the latest version of Opera....(8.54) ,I had tried Opera before and not liked it at all but the new version is superb ,this is now definitely a keeper!

Robyn
April 23rd, 2006, 05:38 AM
Opera - still on version 8.54 but looking forward to v9 and only just discovering the inner depths of Opera which I didn't realise I could configure. I took a while to like Opera and always considered FF to be the best alternative when I noted how many people ran FF.
I have followed a lot of topics on the browser and still have to be convinced it is worth a trial run even more so now so many @Wilders have changed from FF now.

Hope IE7 is better than 6 as I will use this in preference to Avant (only used for tabs on sites which need IE)
Would consider FF if I can be convinced with a new version handling tabs efficiently and without the memory 'features' evident in this version.
If Opera 9 is as good as reports suggest then I wouldn't have the dilemma ;) only reservation is the BitTorrent intregration :(

Mrkvonic
April 23rd, 2006, 08:42 AM
-{ Quote: "Actually for me its the bloat of Firefox that drove me away. It uses more CPU then Opera and IE6 combined on my computer at times. Right now Opera is running at 18,000K as I type this...::) :D" }-

Hello,
18,000K or 180,000K what's the difference when you have 2,000,000K?
Mrk

P.S. FF with 10 extensions and 15-20 tabs open takes ~ 55K.

Rilla927
June 9th, 2006, 01:27 AM
Opera of course! I use FF as an alternative if needed. IE is used once a month for updates, a site that requires IE and won't work in Opera of FF.

Example: On line scanners. I haven't found one yet that will work in Opera or FF. But I haven't tried a lot of them neither.

aigle
June 9th, 2006, 01:58 AM
Opera, opera , opera,
then firefox!!

Carver
June 9th, 2006, 01:59 AM
Opera 8.54 is default, Firefox as a back up (which I never use).

Brian N
June 9th, 2006, 04:06 AM
I only use Firefox because of Adblock.
Opera is only for testing.
IE for windows update & mail.

ErikAlbert
June 9th, 2006, 04:48 AM
Firefox seems to be winner in this poll. My choice too. 8)
Unfortunately, it's not "IE or Firefox", but "IE and Firefox". I still need IE and that's a pity.

aigle
June 9th, 2006, 11:50 AM
-{ Quote: "Tried opera - just didn't like the GUI.
" }-

Hi Nash, to me , opera has the best GUI among all browsers and u can skin it easily.
The whell click works as well and it has so many built in functions that u can,t get even with a pile od extensions in FF.

sosaiso
June 9th, 2006, 12:54 PM
Maxthon!

I find it much easier to render webpages. Yes, IE's got a few vulnerabilities [sarcasm], but when one disables scripts, activex, pictures, it gets much better! ;D

sukarof
June 9th, 2006, 01:22 PM
-{ Quote: "They also get really touchy when I tell them that I use K-Meleon which is even faster than there almighty "Opera". Then you add Treewalk DNS, and your mouse can't keep up with the pages ;D

Alphalutra1" }-

I have just installed K-meleon. And it is faster than Firefox (with all my 30+ extensions) almoust as fast as IE, but how do I install all my extensions that I use in Firefox to K-meleon?

Alphalutra1
June 9th, 2006, 01:52 PM
-{ Quote: "I have just installed K-meleon. And it is faster than Firefox (with all my 30+ extensions) almoust as fast as IE, but how do I install all my extensions that I use in Firefox to K-meleon?" }-
You can't.

K-Meleon does not use firefox extensions. Instead, it uses macros to install extensions. There are not that many available, but if you look on the k-meleon website, they have builds of k-meleon which have some of the key extensions like noscript, adblock with the updaters, etc. built into the product.

Cheers,

Alphalutra1

sukarof
June 9th, 2006, 04:28 PM
Thanks alphalutra1 I will test it. To bad it doesnt do what FF does, but I guess that is why K-meleon is faster :) I guess there is a price to pay if one wants to configure tha browser the way one wants.

Alphalutra1
June 9th, 2006, 08:24 PM
-{ Quote: "Opera of course! I use FF as an alternative if needed. IE is used once a month for updates, a site that requires IE and won't work in Opera of FF.

Example: On line scanners. I haven't found one yet that will work in Opera or FF. But I haven't tried a lot of them neither." }-
Here (http://uk.trendmicro-europe.com/consumer/housecall/housecall_launch.php) ya go ;)

Alphalutra1

Brandon
June 11th, 2006, 12:22 AM
Firefox :)

Find it a safer browser then IE personally and it has some cool extentions to add ;)

Biscuit
June 25th, 2006, 09:16 AM
-{ Quote: "Firefox seems to be winner in this poll. My choice too. 8)
Unfortunately, it's not "IE or Firefox", but "IE and Firefox". I still need IE and that's a pity." }-

Have you tried the IETab extension?

ErikAlbert
June 25th, 2006, 02:26 PM
-{ Quote: "Have you tried the IETab extension?" }-
Yes. Can I use it for "Windows Update" ?

WSFuser
June 25th, 2006, 02:54 PM
-{ Quote: "Yes. Can I use it for "Windows Update" ?" }-
yes; if a site works in IE it will work in IEtab.

Robyn
June 26th, 2006, 12:56 PM
Just installed Firefox after a long time wondering about the browser.
So far I am impressed very light to load as I haven't added any extensions (trying to keep it light for my laptop) tabs are a bit different to work out compared to Opera but hopefully I will have the finer configs. made soon. I definitely prefer FF to IE & like the fact I have the choice of what I want to add & keep it light if I want to. At long last I have got there with Firefox.

I like tabs but FF tabs are different - definitely need to sort these out.

ASpace
June 26th, 2006, 01:27 PM
Internet Explorer

MS fan ;D

Fast , reliable and as StevieO said , you can make it as secure as you like it

HelpFromFrance
June 29th, 2006, 02:18 PM
I have had a great time with Firefox and the one thing I really like is the way that I can personalize it to my likes. It seems faster to me, but what are a few millaseconds (sp)?

Not everyone likes the same flavor of ice cream, that is why Baskin-Robins made it so big. To each person the browser that he or she likes best.

HelpFromFrance

tuatara
June 29th, 2006, 04:44 PM
first of all, i don't like the way people are telling everybody that IE is unsafe.

If everybody would leave IE and choose any other browser,
half of the people who live from MS security problems,
would soon be out of business.

So use IE, eh... but on your on risk.

;D

And.. use an old unpatched version of IE with Active-x , java etc. enabled,
use outlook for mail and try to download as many gigabytes via P2P software as possible.
And have you pc checked or reinstalled by a pc security specialist once a week.

;D;D;D

TonyW
June 29th, 2006, 06:47 PM
Both. :P I use Firefox mainly because of the tabs.

ASpace
June 30th, 2006, 07:22 AM
-{ Quote: "first of all, i don't like the way people are telling everybody that IE is unsafe.

If everybody would leave IE and choose any other browser,
half of the people who live from MS security problems,
would soon be out of business.

So use IE, eh... but on your on risk.

;D

And.. use an old unpatched version of IE with Active-x , java etc. enabled,
use outlook for mail and try to download as many gigabytes via P2P software as possible.
And have you pc checked or reinstalled by a pc security specialist once a week.

;D;D;D" }-


Hope there are no newbies here:lurking:

Firecat
June 30th, 2006, 09:38 AM
I use the Mozilla SeaMonkey suite and really love it. I wanted an alternative to Firefox, and didn't like the others. SeaMonkey is faster than Firefox for me, plus I'm a sucker for suites ;D

furballi
June 30th, 2006, 11:10 AM
It's very difficult to beat a properly configured FF browser. FF is also faster than IE and Opera, especially with multi-page load time. The Fox uses more memory and CPU clock time, which may explain why some PC users cannot realize the full potential of FF.

Firecat
June 30th, 2006, 12:18 PM
-{ Quote: "It's very difficult to beat a properly configured FF browser. FF is also faster than IE and Opera, especially with multi-page load time. The Fox uses more memory and CPU clock time, which may explain why some PC users cannot realize the full potential of FF." }-
Err...I've got a 3GHz CPU and 1GB of DDR400 RAM on my computer, and even then I found SeaMonkey to be faster than Firefox.

But Firefox is better (and faster) than IE anyday. Opera was nice, but it didn't suit me. :)

KenSix
June 30th, 2006, 12:28 PM
ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND? IE is Desktop HARAKIRI...

WSFuser
June 30th, 2006, 01:42 PM
-{ Quote: "ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND? IE is Desktop HARAKIRI..." }-
HAHAHAHA http://forum.gamestar.de/gspinboard/images/smilies/atomrofl.gif http://forum.gamestar.de/gspinboard/images/smilies/atomrofl.gif http://forum.gamestar.de/gspinboard/images/smilies/atomrofl.gif

KI-ChrisE
July 1st, 2006, 06:14 PM
I'm a bit of an MS fan myself so always IE.

I did consider switching till I got my hands on IE7. Now I'm gripped again.

bigc73542
July 1st, 2006, 10:42 PM
Since the release of IE beta 3 I will say I prefer IE over Firefox. I am not a firefox fan anyway but the new IE does work well. But my default browser is Opera.

dylanfan
July 2nd, 2006, 02:15 AM
Opera hands down.
I already thought it was by far the best browser, now that version 9 is out, it's even better if possible.
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

dah145
July 9th, 2006, 01:28 AM
And so at last the beast fell and the unbelievers rejoiced.
But all was not lost, for from the ash rose a great bird.
The bird gazed down upon the unbelievers and cast fire
and thunder upon them. For the beast had been
reborn with its strength renewed, and the
followers of Mammon cowered in horror :o .



from The Book of Mozilla, 7:15

Firefox:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

aigle
July 9th, 2006, 03:54 AM
I will just say, sure these things over here are not Holy to be presented like this. It,s my opinion/ feeling.

wilbertnl
July 9th, 2006, 11:51 AM
Internet Explorer 6 here.
With tabbed browsing enabling add-on.

Opera 9 is fast, small but almost compatible.
Firefox is great, but startup is slow.
And at the end there are a few sites that only work with IE.

wilbertnl
July 9th, 2006, 12:14 PM
-{ Quote: "I use both, but Firefox mostly mainly because of the tabbed browsing. If IE7 works well with its new tab functions, I may go back to using that exclusively." }-
Tabbed browsing in IE6:

http://www.geocities.com/wilbertnl/images/tabbed.png

Also the MSN search toolbar and the Live toolbar offer tab functionality.

http://www.geocities.com/wilbertnl/images/tabbed-2.png

furballi
July 9th, 2006, 09:39 PM
I have two MAJOR issues with Opera:

- Let's say I have ten open tabs. If I click on tab #5 and close this tab, then Opera automatically switches to tab #1. Firefox would open tab #6. I often use Tab #1 as my home page and I do not want to go to my home page each time I close an Opera windows.

- It's not possible to configure Opera to display the URL and tool bar on ONE line.

dah145
July 9th, 2006, 10:42 PM
-{ Quote: "I will just say, sure these things over here are not Holy to be presented like this. It,s my opinion/ feeling." }-

Sorry,
It is just an easter egg from firefox, just type about:mozilla and you would get that. 8)

aigle
July 10th, 2006, 01:48 AM
-{ Quote: "Sorry,
It is just an easter egg from firefox, just type about:mozilla and you would get that. 8)" }-

No problem here, I just gave my opinion. I know people do think differently.

dah145
July 10th, 2006, 02:26 AM
-{ Quote: "No problem here, I just gave my opinion. I know people do think differently." }-

Never a problem 8) 8) 8)

Hyper
August 19th, 2006, 01:24 PM
Firefox, mainly for the rendering engine, extensions and profile manager.

Internet Explorer for testing and 'backup ' for IE-only sites.

stapp
August 23rd, 2006, 07:29 AM
IE --- yes, I know, but I like it!

SNOWHITE
August 23rd, 2006, 10:25 AM
First of all Firefox,and Opera, Avant is faster and for me its better then IE.;D

SNOWHITE
August 23rd, 2006, 10:31 AM
-{ Quote: "first of all, i don't like the way people are telling everybody that IE is unsafe.

If everybody would leave IE and choose any other browser,
half of the people who live from MS security problems,
would soon be out of business.

So use IE, eh... but on your on risk.

;D

And.. use an old unpatched version of IE with Active-x , java etc. enabled,
use outlook for mail and try to download as many gigabytes via P2P software as possible.
And have you pc checked or reinstalled by a pc security specialist once a week.

;D;D;D" }-
e he he...I like your way of thinking:o ;D

JuniorSZ
August 24th, 2006, 11:59 PM
I was a long time firefox user .... but am leaning towards Opera these days.
IE once a month for windows updates ;)

WizardMaster
October 13th, 2006, 02:00 AM
I replaced to new Internet Explorer 7 on my laptop for trail test on NOD32 v2.5. I will find out it's better or not ?

The Gorilla
October 15th, 2006, 12:30 PM
Although I voted for FF - I am currently trying out Opera 9 and I am fairly impressed.

operafox
October 16th, 2006, 02:13 AM
-{ Quote: "I was a long time firefox user .... but am leaning towards Opera these days." }-Never too late ;) Opera user here :)
-{ Quote: "IE once a month for windows updates ;)" }-
Never IE, even for updates. I rather go to
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/current.aspx
and manually select the updates I need and want.
Saves me lots of unnecessary patches, and lots of unnecessary dangerous Office patches as shown recently. Running openoffice instead. http://www.openoffice.org/index.html
One of my teachers recently was updating his XP laptop using Windows Update during class. After download completion, he proceeded to reboot. The laptop never started again. It required a complete reformat and reinstall. I guess one should image one's system before automatically or blindly Windows Updating... But it seems a pity to me.
Cheers

Mrkvonic
October 16th, 2006, 06:31 AM
Hello,
Offtopic, I very much dislike IE, but I think problems with Windows Update usually begin when you start poking into things you shouldn't. Or when people run cracked versions.
Mrk

ComputerDebugger
October 16th, 2006, 06:49 AM
I have been using IE7 for a while now and so far I like it....

bez
October 16th, 2006, 09:23 AM
Firefox is the best - mainly because you can add extensions like
customizegoogle (http://www.customizegoogle.com) which allows you to stop all google adsense adverts from appearing, also it adds a lot of functionality to google searches. Adblock plus is also a good extension. On average using these two extensions browsing is about %50 faster and searching is about %500 more accurate

Internet explorer 7 is bloatware and slows not only browsing the web - but opening directories on a drive is slow
it takes so long to figure out IE's options that after 1/2 an hour you lose the will to live. Theyve dumbed it down so much and hidden the proper functionality beneath a thick layer of BS

ErikAlbert
October 16th, 2006, 11:31 AM
I see that Firefox is the winner in this thread, which is normal because Firefox is simply the best in many ways. IE looks like a Swiss chease with many holes.
The funny thing about IE is its version number. It's much higher than Firefox's version number and IE is still not as good as Firefox. How is THAT possible ? ::)
Possible answer might be : Firefox is created by people with brains, IE is created by people with money.

nadirah
October 16th, 2006, 01:38 PM
-{ Quote: "I see that Firefox is the winner in this thread, which is normal because Firefox is simply the best in many ways. IE looks like a Swiss chease with many holes.
The funny thing about IE is its version number. It's much higher than Firefox's version number and IE is still not as good as Firefox. How is THAT possible ? ::)
Possible answer might be : Firefox is created by people with brains, IE is created by people with money." }-

YES, Well said. ;D;D
7.0.5700.6 - 2.0= 5.057006
IE was created with quantity over quality.

TOMxEU
October 16th, 2006, 01:40 PM
-{ Quote: "it takes so long to figure out IE's options that after 1/2 an hour you lose the will to live. Theyve dumbed it down so much and hidden the proper functionality beneath a thick layer of BS" }-
So more options & security settings = bad browser, interesting, then Firefox is the best. ;)

GS2
October 16th, 2006, 07:31 PM
Another Firefox vote, however I have been messing about with SeaMonkey recently.

bez
October 16th, 2006, 09:42 PM
-{ Quote: "So more options & security settings = bad browser, interesting, then Firefox is the best" }- Absolutely firefox is the best. There may be more options in IE 7 but they way they are arranged and the actual lack of intuitive design makes IE7 the biggest load of steaming BS I've seen in a longwhile
infact only Torpark is worse (well I mean the software - not the browser for Torpark which is of course firefox)

buzzqw
October 17th, 2006, 07:41 AM
opera 9, and always latest beta ( http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/ )

BHH

GS2
October 17th, 2006, 07:59 AM
Just downloaded Firefox 2.0 RC3 - very impressed:

http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/2.0/releasenotes/

Home21200
October 17th, 2006, 08:24 AM
Firefox ( Faster ) Never used Opera really :S Must try :)

aussiebear
October 17th, 2006, 05:35 PM
Voted Firefox.

For three reasons...


(1) Open-source

Response time to security issues is MUCH faster compared to what Microsoft can muster. (****, I bet even the Opera developers can do a better job).

Interesting to note that Microsoft addressed a DRM issue quicker than they handled a security issue in their products!
See here: http://www.wired.com/news/columns/0,71738-0.html

I guess its priorities...Microsoft is about making money. Content Providers pay big bucks for DRM! Open-source isn't. (Its about the software and the people...The community).

Another advantage is that, unlike IE and Microsoft, if Mozilla starts slacking off and leaves Firefox for dead, there is no one stopping you "forking" this project and continue Firefox's legacy. (But for legal reasons, you must adopt a new name and logo for your version of Firefox)....Just remember IE6 and how it was left stagnated for a few years! This isn't gonna happen with an open-source solution.

If you have skills, I suppose you could dig into Firefox's code and find out why the flying f**k it starts off loading slow and consumes a fair bit of RAM. Maybe develop your own custom version? Don't forget to share it with the world! ;)


(2) Runs on Linux, Windows and OpenBSD.

I use all three. Its nice to unify your browsing experience no matter what OS you use. (There are slight differences in the arrangement of some entries in the menus, but that's it...Nothing major).

Obviously, IE is a Windows-Only thing, because Microsoft wants you to use nothing but Windows. ::) (Well, Windows is their biggest money maker...But what do you expect when you bundle that OS to nearly every PC on the planet?)

One thing to note...If I use a trimmed down (read FAST and highly response) Linux distro with Firefox, it does pretty well. If I use it with Windows or those typical desktop distro, like Ubuntu or OpenSUSE, its bloated. (It must be something being called that slows it down)


(3) Extensions.

This is the best idea to come out of a browser. Only add new capabilities that you want and need. Who would've thought? ::) Adblock and NoScript is all I really need. (Yes, you can share your AdBlock list from Linux to Windows to BSD...It doesn't matter!) :D


As you can see, I'm NOT an MS fan. (I downright HATE what they've done to the computer industry), and I always look for alternatives when possible.

Integrating apps like IE and Outlook into an OS is the WORST idea from a security perspective...Not to mention their insistance to continually use ActiveX. ::) (Look in Vista and how they just slap more and more security features!)...FFS! Its a 15GB install! :blink:

If it wasn't for Windows, we wouldn't have this huge security industry. If you've used another OS other than Windows, you'd realise how much garbage you don't need. (all these third-party security apps everyone is playing with in Windows are not even needed! Its crazy!)

Ironically, its this very industry (along with the EU), that has pressured Microsoft into opening up Vista's security API! (Microsoft created a greedy monster that turned against them.)

Fencing
October 27th, 2006, 08:51 AM
I frequently pay to use computers in net cafes which have trojans on every computer and the first thing i do is download firefox - not from the mozilla site because the trojan redirects to it's own trojaned version for download, but i download firefox from google with google toolbar .... and then i feel safer logging in to my various online accounts, and the browser doesn't crash nearly as much, and the pop-ups don't bug me nearly as much...

big up firefox :-*

ASpace
October 27th, 2006, 02:20 PM
-{ Quote: "I frequently pay to use computers in net cafes which have trojans on every computer and the first thing i do is download firefox - not from the mozilla site because the trojan redirects to it's own trojaned version for download, but i download firefox from google with google toolbar .... and then i feel safer logging in to my various online accounts, and the browser doesn't crash nearly as much, and the pop-ups don't bug me nearly as much...

big up firefox :-*" }-

Yes , big up for Firefox but ...
Unfortunately , what you describe won't save you . No matter what application browser you use (IE or Firefox , or Opera ) your data can very easily be stolen in public machines (net cafes) because of keyloggers . They log everything you type with the keyboard (both physical and virtual) and then transfer it to the bad boy .

Fencing
October 28th, 2006, 05:12 AM
-{ Quote: "Yes , big up for Firefox but ...
Unfortunately , what you describe won't save you . No matter what application browser you use (IE or Firefox , or Opera ) your data can very easily be stolen in public machines (net cafes) because of keyloggers . They log everything you type with the keyboard (both physical and virtual) and then transfer it to the bad boy ." }-

i feared that. i once had ownership control of an irc room full of spy bots (i just found them and registered the room they went to) and i saw the keylogged passwords being typed in by so many people....

i guess i'd better be changing all my passwords asap :o

TOMxEU
October 28th, 2006, 05:40 AM
-{ Quote: "There may be more options in IE 7 but they way they are arranged and the actual lack of intuitive design makes IE7 the biggest load of steaming BS I've seen in a longwhile" }-
I wonder, how would you put more intuitively hundreds of settings in a few tabs. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif
But this does not bother me, I set up IE completelly just my merging my reg file in a sec.

ASpace
October 29th, 2006, 03:03 PM
-{ Quote: "i guess i'd better be changing all my passwords asap :o" }-

Yes , ASAP but from proven clean computer ;)

pvsurfer
October 30th, 2006, 11:45 AM
I just recently tried FF2 (been using IE forever) and I prefer FF on all counts except for a very annoying problem with test-size (I never had this kind of problem with IE).

When I get the text-size just right my home page it's much too large on some other websites. Then if I re-set the text size to my liking for those other websites, my home page (and some others) are adversely affected.

I haven't found a way to instruct FF to save my desired text-size on a website-by-website basis. As I said above, I'm new to FF - so is there a solution for this problem?

twl845
November 8th, 2006, 12:16 PM
I used Opera along side FF for a while trying to decide which one to keep with IE. I found Opera to be geared to the teen/college age people more than mature folk. You can see it in the layout of the Community section, forums, and general atmosphere. Not that there's anything wrong with that, due to the fact there is a large youth crowd out there, but for a senior citizen (I hate that handle) it made me lean toward FF. I think FF is the bomb!;D

Jacko2
November 18th, 2006, 12:44 PM
Only the Best one : :OPERA 9.02. :thumb:

Rickster100
November 18th, 2006, 02:18 PM
Got to be OPERA!! 8)

cprtech
November 18th, 2006, 05:26 PM
In recent weeks, Opera 9.02 by far!

Yannis
November 21st, 2006, 06:11 PM
Other = Opera
But FF is not bad at all.

twl845
November 21st, 2006, 09:39 PM
IE looks like FF before you give it a new theme, and without any extensions.:P

pipester
December 21st, 2006, 07:46 PM
Voted Internet Explorer.

Ice_Czar
December 21st, 2006, 09:11 PM
generally employ Firefox on both the Windows and Linux boxes
also occasionally use Konqueror and Opera

But prefer Firefox w\ noscript and a host of other useful extensions
on the Windows boxes IE is either ripped out with XPlite or nLite or its locked down with a noaccess.rat

bigc73542
December 21st, 2006, 09:19 PM
OPERA 9.1 :thumb:

TimaN
December 21st, 2006, 11:12 PM
Opera 9.10 all the way! :thumb:

ClassicQ
December 23rd, 2006, 08:44 AM
Firefox hands down for me, extensions allow you to add any functionality you want/desire ... without having any extra functionality you don't want included by default, while Opera and Seamonkey are nice packages they include a lot of stuff I don't want.

pvsurfer
December 23rd, 2006, 11:13 AM
The more I use IE7, the more I like it. Besides its new tabbing feature (admittedly, that's nothing new to FF/Opera users), I find it operates more smoothly and browses faster than IE6 (I just wish it would have retained the Mail button functionality of IE6). :thumb:

C.S.J
December 23rd, 2006, 01:21 PM
-{ Quote: "The more I use IE7, the more I like it. Besides its new tabbing feature (admittedly, that's nothing new to FF/Opera users), I find it operates more smoothly and browses faster than IE6 (I just wish it would have retained the Mail button functionality of IE6). :thumb: " }-
i agree 100% with that, always hated IE 6 and used to use firefox and opera depending on my mood, but now its IE7 all the way, its alot better and surfing is quicker and not one problem with it since it was released.

Hyperion
December 28th, 2006, 05:05 PM
IE?What's that? :P

Firefox!!!

adadeh
April 11th, 2007, 06:56 AM
first post here .... , FF is a lot of bug.... not using it again , ever !

Number one is Opera of couse :D , number two i think it's maxthon :)

twl845
April 11th, 2007, 08:58 AM
Incoorect. FF does not have a lot of bugs.:blink:

ErikAlbert
April 11th, 2007, 09:49 AM
-{ Quote: "first post here .... , FF is a lot of bug.... not using it again , ever !

Number one is Opera of couse :D , number two i think it's maxthon :)" }-
Every software has bugs, you just don't find them always. So Opera has also bugs.
I'm using FF constantly, never noticed anything bad.
FF + Thunderbird allow me at least to move their profile folder easily to my data partition in order to keep all my personal settings, emails and email-address-books, when my system partition is seriously corrupted by a legitimate software attack or a malware attack and needs to be restored with an out-of-date image.

Seishin
April 18th, 2007, 02:59 AM
Voted Opera but also love the Fox.

Opera with Proxomitron deadly combo. Nothing gets past through them.

Nice poll!

coldplay
April 24th, 2007, 04:02 AM
IE7 but I am open to try something new