Curious about some new products.....

[Firecat]

Hello everyone,

There are two things I would like to ask you guys about:

1)MicroWorld has released the latest MWAV version 8.0

http://www.mwti.net/products/mwav/mwav.asp

I found this line to be important:

-{ Quote: "MWAV 8.x introduces MicroWorld's own Spyware detection and dis-infection engine. This engine will have capabilities of :

* New, modified and improved GUI
* Detecting spyware files and folders on your file system
* Detecting spyware registry entries
* Disinfecting the same
* Supports 1-year license" }-


Of course, MWAV's free version still does not clean, and the price for a license of this toolkit is outrageously high at USD 99.95 (just another trick to make users buy eScan Internet Security).

I do remember from my past contact with Tech support and development that MWTI was developing their own malware detection engine. This means that they are moving away from the Kaspersky engine (even if the current product might also contain KAV's extended bases), which IMO is not such a good move.

2)There seems to be a new AV on the market, made by Indian company Sanra Software which is based in Chennai.

http://www.sanrasoft.com/rudra.asp

The way things are written in the website, it seems that it uses neither signature nor heuristic technology, although nothing is said about how it works, except for 'proprietary technology'.

Does anyone know anything about this product?

Thanks,
FC :)

[WSFuser]

i know nothing about rudra (i cant try it atm, but maybe afterschool) also after a brief look thru its brochure, it seems like it asks permission for executing programs. it also offers "monitoring system configuration and system control files" whatever that may mean.

[Edwin024]

If the Rudra claims can be made real this is a break through in security programs! What a shame that a download is unavailable..

[TeraInnovations]

According to
http://www.sanrasoft.com/rudrapreinstallation.asp ,

Rudra requires the system to be clean pre-installation. Rootkits will probably be able to get around it, and uneducated users will probably get infected many times because software requires end users to make the final decision.

Also, if they do the blocking I'm guessing they are doing, installing/uninstalling programs will cause false positives (as uninstallers frequently add themselves to the \Run\ keys in the registry)

If a friend says: "No really! This program isn't malicious, try it!", the user will probably be suckered into running it anyway.

Its not a bad idea (nor an original one), but it is making a lot of assumptions about users.

Just my 2c,
-Tera Innovations, Incorporated Support Team

[Firecat]

Well, I, for one, am quite skeptical about Rudra. I shall avoid it for the time being.

[DjMaligno]

http://members.aol.com/drasolly/perfect.htm

"2. Anything that relies on the user to make a correct decision, on matters that he is not likely to be able to decide about, is useless." - Dr. Alan Solomon

[Stefan Kurtzhals]

Oh noes, another security product claiming to protect the user against all harm, past, current and future... ::)

Dr.Solly got it right, the PrevX guys even got the statistic data to proof that statement.

[Happy Bytes]

I don't know if i should write that or not, but there is really (and will not be) a newcomer nobody has heard before who is able to provide this. I wrote enough technical business concepts for several firms - some of these papers were "supervised"/inspected by a wellknown av company from UK and were aproved to be technically "excellent". If you build up a company and you're looking for investors the first question is "What makes you different from all existing solutions" - What should you answer there? It has to be a sufficiently fact. Otherwise nobody is interested to "sponsor" just another Security Solution. Most of the Board Members from such "new" companies do not even know how to fulfill the promises made in such "contracts" they only know that they have to do it "somehow". Do you really think you can develop world leading solutions by just picking up some strangers for development or virus analysis at the next bus stop? That's completely IMPOSSIBLE and i would bet my underwear on it. It may sound strange, but most of them opening wide their eyes when it comes 1. to problems which they didn't expect (or believe) 2. when they find out during implementation that the technically concept was wrong BUT THAT THEY HAVE TO SELL IT TO GAIN SOME MONEY. I'm not going to educate ppl here how this investor/new company relationship works. This doesn't belong to this forum type here. But one is for sure - most of the newcomers finding out very fast that it's NOT THAT EASY AS THEY THOUGHT.

[Joliet Jake]

It must be extremely difficult to come into the AV market as a new company as the opposition has built up a proven reputation for excellence over many years.
Security is not something the majority want to gamble with and once they find a product they are happy with they tend to stick with it.

You always get 'fiddlers' (sorry, lol) people who always want to try something different but the old adage applies more strongly IMHO when it comes to the security of your precious information-if it aint broke, don't fix it.

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "I found this line to be important:
Of course, MWAV's free version still does not clean, and the price for a license of this toolkit is outrageously high at USD 99.95 (just another trick to make users buy eScan Internet Security).
" }-
So MWAV detects malware, but doesn't remove it until you buy it. At least that's what I understand.
Well that is typical for rogue softwares. I'm not interested in such softwares.
I can accept lesser features in a free or trial version, but not the main ones.

[RejZoR]

No, MicroWorld is proven and perfectly legit company.
The Free edition is simply just for checking if PC is malware free, no less no more. But thats because it's free.
Pretty similar to BitDefender 8 Free (which lacks RT scanner) but this is limited in some other way...

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "No, MicroWorld is proven and perfectly legit company.
The Free edition is simply just for checking if PC is malware free, no less no more. But thats because it's free.
Pretty similar to BitDefender 8 Free (which lacks RT scanner) but this is limited in some other way..." }-
It doesn't matter for me, legit or not.
If a software detects malware on my computer, I want it removed also.
A software which does that to me has my disapproval already.

-{ Quote: "ONLY US$ 99.95 for 1 year" }-
They make it sound like a good deal ;D and that for the nth blacklist scanner and re-inventing the wheel ???
Very innovative as MicroWorld claims to be ::)
This is pure theft.