Using ShadowSurfer: confused

[PeterVO]

Hello,

I started SS in ShadowMode, downloaded the install file for Sygate Personal Firewall and executed it. Sygate asked me to reboot the system to activate itself. The pc restarted as expected in ShadowMode but Sygate is nowhere to be seen nor activated? I thought all changes were only discarted when ShadowMode was disabled or is ShadowSurfer not usable when installed software recuires a reboot of the system?



Kind regards,

PeterVO

[BlueZannetti]

-{ Quote: "I started SS in ShadowMode, downloaded the install file for Sygate Personal Firewall and executed it. Sygate asked me to reboot the system to activate itself. The pc restarted as expected in ShadowMode but Sygate is nowhere to be seen nor activated? I thought all changes were only discarted when ShadowMode was disabled or is ShadowSurfer not usable when installed software recuires a reboot of the system?
" }-PeterVO,

With ShadowSurfer active, changes will not survive a user session (i.e. a reboot). ShadowUser does allow persistence of a shadow session across reboots, but ShadowSurfer does not. If you want the installation to survive, you have to perform it with Shadowsurfer disabled.

Blue

[awg1011]

I had been under the impression that when exiting shadow mode you were given the option of wrighting the changes to disc or now. I guess I was wrong.

I have another problem with SS that I will start a new thread with.*puppy*

[Peter2150]

-{ Quote: "I had been under the impression that when exiting shadow mode you were given the option of wrighting the changes to disc or now. I guess I was wrong.

I have another problem with SS that I will start a new thread with.*puppy*" }-

ShadowUser has such an option. Shadow Surfer doesn't.

[Notok]

-{ Quote: "ShadowUser has such an option. Shadow Surfer doesn't." }-Hence the reason for the free deal.. whets your appetite for the full version. Worked, didn't it? ;D

[Peter2150]

-{ Quote: "Hence the reason for the free deal.. whets your appetite for the full version. Worked, didn't it? ;D" }-

Nope.;D Like SS strictly for the surfing issue. Tried the full version and for serious stuff, I'll stick with FDISR.

Pete

[Notok]

Hehe, was actually addressing the original poster, but you bring up a good point that that can be handled by other things :)

[PeterVO]

-{ Quote: "Hence the reason for the free deal.. whets your appetite for the full version. Worked, didn't it? ;D" }-

Hello Notok,

thank you for your response but no thank you regarding my appetite for SadowUser. ;D
It'is only whetted by Belgian Chocolates, Brussel's Waffles, Brussel's Sprouts, Belgian Beer and its famous cuisine.*puppy*

Kind regards,

PeterVO

[BlueZannetti]

-{ Quote: "Hello Notok,

thank you for your response but no thank you regarding my appetite for SadowUser. ;D
It'is only whetted by Belgian Chocolates, Brussel's Waffles, Brussel's Sprouts, Belgian Beer and its famous cuisine.*puppy*

Kind regards,

PeterVO" }-Well,

I can't imagine arguing with respect to the chocolate/waffles/beer, but ShadowSurfer is a good introduction to the basic product for anyone contemplating going to the full ShadowUser product.

It is a very nice option to augment classical security options. Different from FD-ISR since it is more a wipe clean solution than a restore to a fixed point at any time approach.

Blue

[Peter2150]

-{ Quote: "Well,

I can't imagine arguing with respect to the chocolate/waffles/beer, but ShadowSurfer is a good introduction to the basic product for anyone contemplating going to the full ShadowUser product.

It is a very nice option to augment classical security options. Different from FD-ISR since it is more a wipe clean solution than a restore to a fixed point at any time approach.

Blue" }-

Totally agree. I have starting using Shadow Surfer for occasional high risk surfing. It's the quickest way to be sure all junk is gone. Still can't beat having FDISR for those times when system goes cranky and won't boot.

Pete

[aigle]

-{ Quote: "ShadowUser has such an option. Shadow Surfer doesn't." }-

Even with shadow user,you have to give option of save system to keep your insalled sotware threre,so if there is any bug in the new software, it will be saved. So i think any software which ask you to reboot after its installation,cannot be used safely even wih shadow user.

[BlueZannetti]

-{ Quote: "Even with shadow user,you have to give option of save system to keep your insalled sotware threre,so if there is any bug in the new software, it will be saved. So i think any software which ask you to reboot after its installation,cannot be used safely even wih shadow user." }-aigle,

As I mentioned already to you here (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=681774&postcount=42), selecting the Option under the General tab of Persistence allow continuation of a shadow session between reboots. You will not have to commit or clear until you exit the session. This will accomplish what you desire and handle the install/reboot situation.

Blue