Nero 7 - Discussion

[adrianyujs]

Hi! Anyone got problem using Nero 7 to burn CD and DVD? There is some people complain that Nero 7 is rubbish, Here is the link (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=114470).
Please fell free to post what you think about Nero 7, what error you have got, and anything about Nero 7.

Thanks,
adrianyujs.

[zapjb]

Ever since I discovered DropToCD I have no need for bloated resource hog nero. Others I know feel the same way about nero but choose Prassi's ONES instead.

[adrianyujs]

-{ Quote: "Ever since I discovered DropToCD I have no need for bloated resource hog nero. Others I know feel the same way about nero but choose Prassi's ONES instead." }-
Here is discussing about Nero 7, not other burning software related stuff.

[sowhat]

I had installed a OEM version 7 from my cd-drive 's retail cd,
and got some errors...so why uninstalled it,
downloaded Ahead 's cleaning tool and ran it,
also manually deleted whatever was left over the registry.
Just went back to Nero 6.3-always played nice in my machine.
I believe there's no need of having all these "features" in a cd-burning app,
sometimes i even get a feeling that my old 5.8 version ran more smoothly...
But I personally cannot clarify such a hard accusation,that it is rubbish,
'cause i didn't spend any of my time to see if it was something fixable...
My point-of-view,is pretty much described by these very-well known phrases:
"If it ain't broken,then don't fix it" and "KISS".
Tweak it,as much as your heart tells you to do,but if it's really broken,
don't try to "fix" it,just replace it-this 'causes much less of frustration.

[adrianyujs]

So, it is a bug? Or it is compatibility problem? I have no problem using Nero 7 with my Liteon Combo Drive.
Or it is about empty CD problem? Maybe in Nero 7, they block burning pirated CD and other, i'm not sure also.
Thanks sowhat for posting his problem, maybe his problem can help me find more information about Nero 7 bugs, because i'm always emailing Nero official, and hope they can fix all these problem.

[GotNero]

Yeah, I got Nero 7 and it did have a few problems, so I downloaded their MASSIVE 100GB bug fix which is what you have to do everytime you want the latest fixes. Unfrigginreal why can't they just have a small download for the updates? Why make us do some massive download just for a few little updates? Doesn't make sense to me. ??? I should have waited and looked for something better.

[adrianyujs]

-{ Quote: "Yeah, I got Nero 7 and it did have a few problems, so I downloaded their MASSIVE 100GB bug fix which is what you have to do everytime you want the latest fixes. Unfrigginreal why can't they just have a small download for the updates? Why make us do some massive download just for a few little updates? Doesn't make sense to me. ??? I should have waited and looked for something better." }-
I think you are wrong, their small update is 100MB not GB, and their trial version is 400MB depend on the language you selected.

[zapjb]

Yeah really worth it.::)

[WSFuser]

ive tried nero 7 and overall i havent had any failures when burning data tho i still stick to the latest nero 6 just to be safe.

[adrianyujs]

Ok ok, doesn't matter got error or not, please include your system which are running while burn a CD or DVD.
For me, I got burning failed when enable ZoneAlarm Antivirus and Spyware, after i disable these two, burning is successfull. But my friend, he already try Nero 7 from first release to latest version, no problem at all, and he say he never install any AntiVirus on his computer, does this means AV problem to cause Nero 7 burning failed?
And one thing I must tell you all, when burning a CD or DVD, it is better don't run or load any application while burning is in progress, its sometime can cause burning failed, especially for those who have low capacity of Random Access Memory(RAM).

[zapjb]

The last poster brought up an interesting point. Next time nero is burning, pull up taskmanager & see the system resources it's hogging. Then if you want to see the difference install Prassi's ONES or Sateira's DropToCD & compare by burning the same project. Give each program a even playing field. A fresh reboot & same background processes. Most likely as I have found nero will be using up to 10x more resources. Most of that RAM.:o

[se7engreen]

I liked Nero back in the day and it's still pretty good. I stopped using it because it has more stuff than I use and the extras end up being wasted space. I didn't really need anything but the basic buring engine.

I recently switched to Ashampoo's Burning Studio (http://www.ashampoo.com/frontend/products/php/product.php?session_langid=2&idstring=0510) since it does everything that I used to do with Nero. It doesen't add anything to autorun when your computer starts and it's only about a 6Mb download. Of course like anything from Ashampoo, it's simple to use. The flip side of that is that you don't get much for advanced control, but I'd recommend it for the casual user.

[adrianyujs]

se7engreen: Nero 7 contain these program:-
1) Nero Home
2) Nero Scout
3) Nero StartSmart 3
4) Nero Burning ROM 7
5) Nero Express 7
6) Nero WaveEditor 3
7) Nero SoundTrax 2
8 ) Nero Vision 4
9) Nero Recode 2
10) Nero ShowTime 2
11) Nero MediaHome
12) Nero PhotoSnap
13) Nero CoverDesigner 2
14) Nero ToolKit
15) Nero BackItUp 2
16) InCD 5
17) Nero SoundBox
18 ) Nero ImageDrive
You still can select custom installation, then you don't need to waste your space. You can just install Nero Burning Rom 7, because Nero Burning Rom is provide burning CD or DVD.

zapjb: As you say Nero use ten times more resource? it is because, example, sometimes when you burn a video file(MPG, AVI and other), Nero will check for compatibility VCD or DVD compliant, if the file that is not compliant with VCD or DVD, Nero will convert the video file to VCD compliant, then store in the temporary drive, then burn the converted file to CD or DVD. For other burning software, some of them not provide checking CD or DVD compliant, But most of them didn't provide this function.

[WSFuser]

-{ Quote: "zapjb: As you say Nero use ten times more resource? it is because, example, sometimes when you burn a video file(MPG, AVI and other), Nero will check for compatibility VCD or DVD compliant, if the file that is not compliant with VCD or DVD, Nero will convert the video file to VCD compliant, then store in the temporary drive, then burn the converted file to CD or DVD. For other burning software, some of them not provide checking CD or DVD compliant, But most of them didn't provide this function." }-
also nero can use some system memory as a buffer, if u wish u can into ur option and lower the amount.

[adrianyujs]

Although buffer can be modified, it is recommend not to touch anything with that.

[Infinity]

I rated this product being excellent. never ever had any issues with cd-rw and dvd-rw burning.

I do love their mediaplayer a lot, it's the only one I use.

[adrianyujs]

Nero Burning ROM and Nero Express will automatically create a log file at the end of every write attempt. (The log file will be created even if the burning process has failed).

The default folder where this log file is saved depends on whether you were using Nero Burning ROM or NeroExpress.
For -> Nero Burning ROM: C:\Programs\Ahead\Nero
For -> NeroExpress: C:\Programs\Ahead\NeroExpress

The name of this log file is
NeroHistory.log

The ten last burning processes are saved in this log file.
If possible, please specify the date and the time of the burning process in question so I and Nero can examine it specifically.

Please attach the log here, thanks...

[Sonap]

I use Nero 7 premium and i like it.

[iceni60]

i don't know the first thing about burning software but i've used a couple of the 7 versions with no problems, burning .iso's, music and videos.

i've got a LG.

[adrianyujs]

SO, latest version is 7.0.5.4. Anyone still got problem burning CD or DVD?

[AbdMajeed]

I don't know what to say...first wasted 3 DVD-R... then e-mailed NERO.com for help and support where I attached the Log.txt... but no response.. WHAT THE HELL!!!... I bot this software just 3 days ago and it does not work... here is the Log file.. kindly plzzzzz plzz plzzz help me anyone...

Mazed Chowdhury
Education
1C8#-0##6-19#5-MA#X-4##M-3C#0-8043

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.70 (0008), size=45056 bytes, created 17/07/2002 16:23:20
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 02/11/2004 12:54:32

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 7.0.5.4
Internal Version: 7, 0, 5, 4

Recorder: <TDK DVDRW0404N> Version: 1.06 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.5.4
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <TDK DVDRW0404N >Version: 1.06 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.5.4
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST340810A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : TDK DVDRW0404N atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : VOBID InstantDrive CD 14 VOBID Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
VOBID InstantDrive CD E: CDRom1
TDK DVDRW0404N F: CDRom0
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 511MB (523760kB)
Free physical memory: 154MB (158688kB)
Memory in use : 69 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

2.5.2006
UDF/ISO compilation
00:55:15 #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
DVD-Video files reallocation started

00:55:15 #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

00:55:16 #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6414
UDF document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
UDF Mode : UDF/ISO bridge
UDF Options : automatic
UDF Revision : 1.02
UDF Partition Type : physical
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

00:55:16 #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
DVD-Video files sorted

00:55:16 #5 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 531
ReadBuffer-Pipe got 262144KB of Memory

00:55:16 #6 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
Reader running

00:55:16 #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

00:55:16 #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

00:55:16 #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3341
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

00:55:49 #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 288
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2250143 (500:01.68, 4394MB)

00:55:49 #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 300
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

00:55:49 #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2699
Recorder: TDK DVDRW0404N, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: UME01 -
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

00:55:49 #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 472
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================
Insert empty disc to write to.
(Medium in drive: Unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD R/RW.)

00:55:49 #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2250144 (2250144) = #2250144/500:1.69
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2250144 blocks [F: TDK DVDRW0404N]
--------------------------------------------------------------

00:55:49 #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059
Prepare recorder [F: TDK DVDRW0404N] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4608294912, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2250144 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

00:55:50 #16 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 39
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

00:55:50 #17 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 84
SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME

00:55:50 #18 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Caching of files started

00:55:50 #19 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4175
Cache writing successful.

00:55:50 #20 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Caching of files completed

00:55:50 #21 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Burn process started at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)

00:55:50 #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

00:55:50 #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2699
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

00:55:50 #24 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2855
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

00:55:50 #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8663
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 0.0 (0)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 2FE10 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 2FFA0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

00:55:50 #26 SPTI -1046 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 290
F: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1046)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x30
Sense Qual: 0x05
CDB Data: 0x53 00 00 00 00 00 22 55 A0 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 05

00:55:50 #27 CDR -1046 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1799
Illegal disc
F: TDK DVDRW0404N

00:55:50 #28 TRANSFER -27 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1799
Could not perform start of Disc-at-once

00:55:50 #29 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Burn process failed at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.70 (0008) built by: WinDDK, size=84832 bytes, created 17/07/2002 16:20:32
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.32a, size=20640 bytes, created 20/01/2006 23:46:33 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

[adrianyujs]

Dear friend (AbdMajeed), give them more time... they are busy release new version of nero and maybe really busy.
How about you use Nero 6 to test it.

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "I don't know what to say...first wasted 3 DVD-R... then e-mailed NERO.com for help and support where I attached the Log.txt... but no response.. WHAT THE HELL!!!... I bot this software just 3 days ago and it does not work... here is the Log file.. kindly plzzzzz plzz plzzz help me anyone..." }-
Why didn't you try the trial version of Nero 7 first, before buying it ?

[adrianyujs]

I think his(AbdMajeed) burner got problem.

[StevieO]

I've heard of issues with 7 but as i have no problems with 5.5 feel no need or desire to "upgrade".

When i burn i've found it always works much more smoothly shutting everything down with msconfig etc, physically disconnecting from the internet first of course. This way i rarely if ever have any bad burns or faults.

I know nero has an AV capability built in which can scan for viruses before burning, so i wonder if this could be the cause of some of those errors with other AV's etc ?


StevieO

[adrianyujs]

Yes, Nero AV with other AV can cause burning failed.
Currently Nero 7 still not as stable as you all think, they always try to solve the problem when someone is try to send out the LOG to them. Maybe you all can try use Nero 6, which very stable. May you all use Nero 7 in future when its already stable.

[ErikAlbert]

My Benq DVD/CD-writer was delivered with a CD, that contains Nero 6 OEM.
I already use it a few times for different things and it works properly.
I could upgrade it to version 6.6.1.4 via Nero website.
I wasn't planning to use Nero, but it's a given horse. :)

[adrianyujs]

Nero 6 is same as Nero 7, but the different is Nero 7 added with more multimedia software such as Nero Recode, Nero Show Time and Nero Photo Snap.

[herbalist]

Haven't tried Nero 7. Did try an older version some time ago but didn't like it. Been using BurnAtOnce (http://www.burnatonce.com/index.htm?news) since. Besides being much less bloated, it's free, Open Source. Been using it for both music and data with excellent results. The GUI is quite plain but works well. So far, it hasn't burned a single coaster for me. If I'm seeing it right, it will also burn DVDs (http://www.burnatonce.com/index.htm?http://www.burnatonce.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=696) when used with ProDVD.
Rick

[Alphalutra1]

-{ Quote: " Been using BurnAtOnce (http://www.burnatonce.com/index.htm?news) since." }-
That's my favorite program as well. It is especially good at ripping disks since it reads in RAW, so it comes in handy for me copying my games so I don't destroy the original cd on accident than have no game to play (those are in a shelf in my close, away from all destructive objects, hopefully :-\ ;) )

I also like deepburner, which works very well, and has a portable version.

Cheers,

Alphalutra1

[ronjor]

Let's all stay on the topic of Nero 7 in this thread. Feel free to start a thread on other cd/dvd burning programs elsewhere.

-{ Quote: "Hi! Anyone got problem using Nero 7 to burn CD and DVD? There is some people complain that Nero 7 is rubbish, Here is the link.
Please fell free to post what you think about Nero 7, what error you have got, and anything about Nero 7.

Thanks,
adrianyujs." }-