McAfee Enterprise trial edition

[Arup]

http://www.mcafee.com/us/products/mcafee/host_ips/desktop_firewall.htm

This one has got it all, so worth trying out.

[shoe]

I run it I am no expert but I like it

[Jazzie1]

Yep, not a bad buy either! 21.00 bucks is cheap for a good, lite fw!


Regards
Jazzie

[q1aqza]

-{ Quote: "Yep, not a bad buy either! 21.00 bucks is cheap for a good, lite fw!


Regards
Jazzie" }-

If you buy 11 or more licenses !!! :)

[Jazzie1]

-{ Quote: "If you buy 11 or more licenses !!!" }-

yes for 11 or more liecense it is 21 a piece. For a single it is 28! ;)

regards
Jazzie

[Arup]

A bargain for what its offering, have seen lesser offerings for $50.

[Kerodo]

Yep, agreed guys, for $28 you can't beat it. It's what Kerio 4 should have been. Really cool firewall. Using it now and loving it.. :)

[kalpik]

People are mentioning it takes just 5 Megs of ram, but i think it has several processes and the total memory is about 25-30 MB. Could someone please confirm that?

[Arup]

Actual fw component is 5mb, and with rest total comes to round about 11-15mb, still far better than other IDS based firewalls, best of all, system impact is minimal.

[kalpik]

System impact is minimal, thats for sure! Anyway, thanks for clearing that up!

[Jazzie1]

Hi all!

The firewall component like Arup stated, is 5 megs! Here is a break down of the serive/app(s) on Xp Pro Sp2:

Firetray.exe 5,708
FireSvc.exe 4,680
FrameworkService.exe 4,800
UpdaterUI.exe 1,540
naPrdMgr.exe 1,028
TBMon.exe 1,792
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Regards
Jazzie

[q1aqza]

-{ Quote: "yes for 11 or more liecense it is 21 a piece. For a single it is 28! ;)

regards
Jazzie" }-

I didn't realize you could buy individuals - makes it seem all the more an interesting proposition

[kalpik]

-{ Quote: "Hi all!

The firewall component like Arup stated, is 5 megs! Here is a break down of the serive/app(s) on Xp Pro Sp2:

Firetray.exe 5,708
FireSvc.exe 4,680
FrameworkService.exe 4,800
UpdaterUI.exe 1,540
naPrdMgr.exe 1,028
TBMon.exe 1,792
---------------------------

Regards
Jazzie" }-
Just as i had it when i tried McAfee Firewall. I personally just dont like the idea of multiple processes running. The firewall was pretty solid though! Currently im using KIS 2006 beta, and you sure cant beat an AV + Firewall for just about 10 MB! ;D ;D ;D 8)

[The Usual Suspect]

Interesting...

can anyone tell me whether...

> McAfee lets INDIVIDUALS purchase INDIVIDUAL licenses?

> integrates with McAfee's VSE 8 ?

> and what exactly are it's features?

[shoe]

you need to purchase a grant of 11 nodes and yes it does integrate

[Jazzie1]

Hi all!

you can purchase individual versions:

http://www.shopmcafee.com/dr/sat4/ec_Main.Entry17c?V1=630995&PID=630995&PN=1&SP=10023&SID=43625&CUR=840&CID=164859&DSP=&PGRP=0&ABCODE=&CACHE_ID=164859

Cost about 28.75 a year!


The policy is managed by Mcafee! So it mostly pretty much the same!

Regards
Jazzie

[shoe]

I believe that is ASAP not 8.5

[Jazzie1]

No it is the Destop firewall, just managed!

http://www.shopmcafee.com/dr/sat4/ec_Main.Entry17C?SID=43625&SP=10034&CID=0&PID=645678&PN=1&V1=1278717

Regards
Jazzie

[Arup]

Kalpik,

Kaspersky maybe a good AV but its firewall can't hold a candle against the McAfee or for that matter any other like ZAP or Outpost.

[kalpik]

Hi Arup, you are grossly mistaken! Im talking about the new KIS 2006 beta, not Kaspersky Anti Hacker! The new KIS passes ALL the leak tests, has registry protection, the firewall is rule based, has application integrity control etc.. Plus it has one of the best AV in the industry!

[Nitrox]

-{ Quote: "No it is the Destop firewall, just managed!

http://www.shopmcafee.com/dr/sat4/ec_Main.Entry17C?SID=43625&SP=10034&CID=0&PID=645678&PN=1&V1=1278717

Regards
Jazzie" }-

Here's a Christmas present for who would like it, promo code 'HOLIDAY' and you get $4.31 off the regular price.:)

[Nitrox]

The unmanaged desktop version only uses 3 services, firesvc.exe 6,528 KB, Firetray.exe 8,892 KB and TBmon.exe which I have disabled as I don't need to report any errors.

[Jazzie1]

-{ Quote: "The unmanaged desktop version only uses 3 services, firesvc.exe 6,528 KB, Firetray.exe 8,892 KB and TBmon.exe which I have disabled as I don't need to report any errors." }-

This varies per system!

Regards
Jazzie

[Nitrox]

-{ Quote: "This varies per system!

Regards
Jazzie" }-

I agree, very true.:)

[kalpik]

-{ Quote: "The unmanaged desktop version only uses 3 services, firesvc.exe 6,528 KB, Firetray.exe 8,892 KB and TBmon.exe which I have disabled as I don't need to report any errors." }-
Where to get this version?

[Nitrox]

-{ Quote: "Where to get this version?" }-

When you download the desktop version trial and you extract it to a temp directory, it will have a folder called desktop firewall and a folder with the desktop firewall for epo.
I installed the one in the desktop firewall folder only.
I don't have the link because you have to fill out a form and so on to get the trial download over here:

https://secure.nai.com/us/forms/registration/survey.asp?type=d&prodid=3260&mktg=ESD334&bu=McAfee

[kalpik]

I installed that version only! Still i have all those processes!

[liang_mike]

I have been using McAfee Desktop Firewall for a while now. I like its simple and solid feature set, and GUI.

It has all the features that I need (firewall capable of application and network rules, IDS, simple log viewer) .... no more no less. Thank you, but I don't need the firewall to guard my registry, or an integrated anti-spyware.

MDF displays all the rules in one firewall pane, and you can resize the window to see many rules at a time. This helps because I have many firewall rules. In addition, you can drag rules up or down. This is something I don't like about Outpost, which displays rules in seperate small windows (tabs). (On the other hand, I am not an Outpost expert, so I might be doing something wrong)

Sadly, I am still using MDF 8.0, not 8.5. 8.5 has been very buggy on my computer. You can see me whining about 8.5 at mcAfee Support Forum. However, I am eagerly waiting for a new build of 8.5.

By the way, McAfee is beta testing a new product called Host Intrusion Prevention, which contains all the features of MDF and more (http://www.mcafee.com/us/downloads/beta/hips/hips.htm).

[Arup]

Thanks for the HIPS link Mike, 8.5 works fine on my system though and I find it to be the best solution of the current crops of firewalls out there.

[liang_mike]

-{ Quote: "Thanks for the HIPS link Mike, 8.5 works fine on my system though and I find it to be the best solution of the current crops of firewalls out there." }-

Glad to hear that. I also find MDF to be the best solution for myself. I am waiting for a new build of 8.5 before upgrading from 8.0.

[kalpik]

Just experimented with something! You only need FireSvc.exe and FireTray.exe for the firewall to work. Disable Mcafee Framework Service from Services.msc, and disable all other things from msconfig.exe. It works!

[Nitrox]

-{ Quote: "Just experimented with something! You only need FireSvc.exe and FireTray.exe for the firewall to work. Disable Mcafee Framework Service from Services.msc, and disable all other things from msconfig.exe. It works!" }-
That's weird, I don't remember getting those services installed, (Mcafee Framework Service) the only one I killed was tbmon.exe.???

[kalpik]

Thats what!! All these services do get installed! You must check again!

[ellison64]

Thought id trial it too , and see how it compared with kerio 2.15 for lightness.I must say im quite impressed and this old 98 system seems to have no ill effects running it.In fact it seems as fast as kerio when browsing.I did run into some problems by enabling the applictaion policy options though , specifically with antivir ( which i had to make a rule for as the firewall was shutting it down before it enabled properly) ,admuncher which has a hook function and secondchance which is basically a 98 system restore.I guess most of you here are more knowledgable than i ,but i thought id mention enabling the application policy option could cause some unforseen problems for the tota newbie.
ellison

ohh yes forgot to mention......full marks to mcafee for not having a nag screen every time you start the trial version up..

[ellison64]

-{ Quote: "

By the way, McAfee is beta testing a new product called Host Intrusion Prevention, which contains all the features of MDF and more (http://www.mcafee.com/us/downloads/beta/hips/hips.htm)." }-

I notice that system requirements for the beta are....

* Windows 2000 Professional
* Windows 2000 Server
* Windows 2000 Advanced
* Windows 2003 Server
* Windows 2003 Enterprise
* Windows XP Professional

So i guess this would be aimed at the buisness/professional user rather than the home user?
tia
ellison

[Kerodo]

Not necessarily.. I see both Win2k and XP there, which pretty much covers 99% of the home user market too.

[ellison64]

Mmm im a little in the stone age regarding os..im still using 98.I saw the XP pro listed there and not the home and assumed it wouldnt work on home edition.On reflection though i guess it wouldnt list XP home if its aimed at small buisness users anyway.On another note though it seems that single user licences may be limited to US and Canada at the moment.Ive tried to find a UK equivalent and failed.It seems the minimum licence here is 2 licences for the managed version...
http://eu.shopmcafee.com/DRHM/servlet/ControllerServlet?Action=DisplayCategoryProductListPage&SiteID=mcafee&categoryID=547600
and the US site refuses customers outside of that territory..or at least it did for me.Are you using it with a router kerodo?....i notice it doesnt stealth all ports, many are closed when used on its own,though i guess its easy to set rules for this.
ellison

[ellison64]

Actually i ve just downloaded the pdf product info sheet for what i thought was desktop firewall 8.5.
http://eu.shopmcafee.com/servlet/ControllerServlet?Action=DisplayPage&Locale=en_GB&id=ProductDetailsPage&SiteID=mcafee&productID=10978700&Env=BASE

However its nothing like this trial version in appearance,so im not sure what version that is?

ellison

[Kerodo]

Yes, I am behind a router here, so have not checked it's stealth capabilities.

[AJohn]

McAfee Desktop Firewall: http://eu.shopmcafee.com/servlet/ControllerServlet?Action=DisplayPage&Locale=en_GB&id=ProductDetailsPage&SiteID=mcafee&productID=11082500&Env=BASE

The managed firewall is a version of McAfee Personal Firewall.

[ellison64]

Thanks .. i thought it looked rather different to MDF.
ellsion

[liang_mike]

-{ Quote: "I notice that system requirements for the beta are....

* Windows 2000 Professional
* Windows 2000 Server
* Windows 2000 Advanced
* Windows 2003 Server
* Windows 2003 Enterprise
* Windows XP Professional

So i guess this would be aimed at the buisness/professional user rather than the home user?
tia
ellison" }-

I would think Host Intrusion Prevention is designed for businesses, just like Desktop Firewall.

[Arup]

This is indeed a product aimed at corporates, one of the reasons, McAfee never touts it as a home product where they tout the weaker desktop verison 4x firewall, one of the reasons, you see avalibility of multiple licences. However it also makes an excellent home firewall for a seasoned user.