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JimIT
July 7th, 2003, 04:45 PM
This may be old news, but wondering if anyone has information on Extendia AntiVirus, which is being sold here in the states by W*l-M*rt in their "cheapo" software racks for 7.88.

Specifically, the scan engine, and similarities to AVK Pro--if any.

FYI: the copyright dates on the cd are up to 2003, so it looks pretty new.

TIA

Karl_Menshy
July 7th, 2003, 06:00 PM
Is there any indication as for how long they will update? I remember that there were cheap packages of AVK available which included an update period of only a few weeks...

I guess it would be a good idea to check this...besides the scan engine should be the same as AVK.

JimIT
July 7th, 2003, 06:25 PM
{QUOTE-> quoting: Karl_Menshy link=board=24;threadid=11093;start=0#msg72159 date=1057615253]
Is there any indication as for how long they will update? I remember that there were cheap packages of AVK available which included an update period of only a few weeks... <-QUOTE}

Karl,

According to the packaging I saw, purchase and registration includes 1 year of pattern updates. :-\

Karl_Menshy
July 8th, 2003, 03:03 PM
Well, if explicitly stated...the package should be fine then. I don't know whether extendia uses the KAV and the RAV engine, but even with only the KAV engine it would be a good buy at this price with 1 year of updates...maybe you're just lucky :)

JimIT
July 8th, 2003, 05:43 PM
{QUOTE-> quoting: Karl_Menshy link=board=24;threadid=11093;start=0#msg72306 date=1057691014]
Well, if explicitly stated...the package should be fine then. I don't know whether extendia uses the KAV and the RAV engine, but even with only the KAV engine it would be a good buy at this price with 1 year of updates...maybe you're just lucky :)
<-QUOTE}

Well, curiosity got the better of me and I shelled out the 7.88. ;D

FYI: This is the second W*l-M*rt I've seen this software in. The copyright is Boomerang Software 2002, 2003, and apparently the software is also available online at

www.valusoft.com

This is version 11.0.4 of eXtendia AVK, with the KAV engine, and from what I've seen so far, it looks great.

*Functionality is pretty much identical to the German version of AVK Pro which I trialed, and similar interface. No RAV engine, obviously.

*One year of "gold" level (daily) database updates are included w/purchase.

*Quarantine, manual delete, right-click manual scan, scheduled scans, scheduled pattern auto-update, Exchange and Outlook plug-in support included.

*ACE, ARJ,CAB,LHI,RAR,ZIP scan-ability.

*Looks fully-functional to me--nothing crippled.

Wow! What a deal! :D

Karl_Menshy
July 8th, 2003, 05:59 PM
hey, that's really cheap...esp. the gold level support...if I remember correctly it costs quite some $$ normally...
and the scan engine is not the latest v12, but to be honest, I don't see any difference between them, as the KAV engine is integrated into the bases anyway.

Congratulations on your good buy :).

Bmacguy
July 12th, 2003, 02:55 PM
Pretty interesting test results at pcworld.
http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,110654,pg,2,00.asp
Go to the next page for a big chart of tests on several av progs.
From the test results it seems hardly possible that they would say
that Norton is the best buy.


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the Tester
July 12th, 2003, 07:28 PM
The info tab says eXtendia AVK 11.0.4.
Would that make it the 11.0.4 version Kaspersy engine?
If so,that's the most recent Kaspersky engine that I have seen in a KAV "knock off" program.
(eScan Pro used an AVK 10 version).

Outlook Express mail account is detected automatically during setup.
That's in the Email Virus Blocker.

I found it for $7.72 at a W*lM**t SuperStore too.
I can't find anything wrong with it so far.
The updates work.
It's not KAV,but the scanner is very good!
What's the "catch"?
This program is definitely worth more than the $!

I wonder what the renewal terms wil be?

Technodrome
July 12th, 2003, 10:11 PM
{QUOTE-> quoting: the Tester link=board=24;threadid=11093;start=0#msg73115 date=1058052486]
The info tab says eXtendia AVK 11.0.4.
Would that make it the 11.0.4 version Kaspersy engine?
If so,that's the most recent Kaspersky engine that I have seen in a KAV "knock off" program.
(eScan Pro used an AVK 10 version).
<-QUOTE}

11.0.4 is program version!

AVK uses different numbers for engines.

eScan uses AVKs v10 kernal not engines( but they use kav engines too).


Current engine(s) version:
KAV 12.0.456
RAV 12.0.138

Program version is 11.0.4


tECHNODROME

the Tester
July 12th, 2003, 10:38 PM
Hi Technodrome.

I see what you mean.

I have a screenshot of the program that I bought.
It's not the Pro version,so it only has one engine.
Maybe this is the same Kaspersky engine and kernel as used in the Pro version?

I hope that this isn't too stupid a question,
Could you explain the kernel?
Isn't that installed into a system's memory by the antivirus program?

Technodrome
July 12th, 2003, 11:23 PM
Kernel is the foundation or structure of one program. eScan uses AVKs version 10 kernel. GUI, some features etc...


tECHNODROME

Technodrome
July 12th, 2003, 11:25 PM
{QUOTE-> quoting: the Tester link=board=24;threadid=11093;start=0#msg73148 date=1058063905]
Maybe this is the same Kaspersky engine and kernel as used in the Pro version?
<-QUOTE}

Yes it is. AVK pro has one more engine (RAV)



tECHNODROME

crazykidjoe
July 13th, 2003, 09:41 AM
I purchased the pro version at compusa. I'm using it as a on demand scanner backing up kav. c

Forgot to add I paid $19.99. You can order it over the net and pick it up at the store..

Graystoke
July 15th, 2003, 03:55 PM
Does it have a seperate e-mail scanner like NAV and some others?

Technodrome
July 15th, 2003, 04:08 PM
{QUOTE-> quoting: Hobnob link=board=24;threadid=11093;start=0#msg73622 date=1058298946]
Does it have a seperate e-mail scanner like NAV and some others?
<-QUOTE}

Yes.


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Graystoke
July 15th, 2003, 04:15 PM
Thanks Technodrome. I think I take a trip to my neighborhood W*l- M*rt and see if they have it. :)

JimIT
July 15th, 2003, 05:18 PM
{QUOTE-> quoting: crazykidjoe link=board=24;threadid=11093;start=0#msg73205 date=1058103714]Forgot to add I paid $19.99. You can order it over the net and pick it up at the store..
<-QUOTE}

Not any more. :(

CompUSA quit carrying it end of May.

Graystoke
July 15th, 2003, 06:37 PM
Got my copy from W*l-M*rt, $7.72. ;D I will install it later today.

JimIT
July 15th, 2003, 07:35 PM
{QUOTE-> quoting: Hobnob link=board=24;threadid=11093;start=15#msg73659 date=1058308655]
Got my copy from W*l-M*rt, $7.72. ;D I will install it later today.
<-QUOTE}

Let us know how you like it!

;D

crazykidjoe
July 15th, 2003, 10:02 PM
I looked at W+lm-rt for a copy for my brother and couldn't find it. Can anyone provide a link to it on the net if they know one for W+lm-rt? Thanks c

root
July 15th, 2003, 10:37 PM
Why is everyone spelling Walmart funny? ???

Graystoke
July 15th, 2003, 11:27 PM
Well I installed it a couple of hours ago. So far I ran manual scan. Set up a scheduled scan to see if it works, it does. ;) The scan took about as long as NAV 2003. That's ok with me. I like the way it looks. Easy to configure. The only thing I miss, sort of, is the outgoing e-mail scanner that NAV 2003 has. I guess I can get over that. I'll give it a long test drive and see how it goes. So far I like it. ;D

solarpowered candle
July 16th, 2003, 12:34 AM
you guys are lucky as downunder where i reside we dont have W*l- M*rt stores or W+lm-rt stores , not even a Walmart store :)

JimIT
July 16th, 2003, 04:55 PM
{QUOTE-> quoting: crazykidjoe link=board=24;threadid=11093;start=15#msg73704 date=1058320926]
I looked at W+lm-rt for a copy for my brother and couldn't find it. Can anyone provide a link to it on the net if they know one for W+lm-rt? Thanks c
<-QUOTE}

I didn't find it on WM's website.

The software is (usually) located in WM's wire "cheap software" racks along with the usual 2-3 year old games like FIFA Soccer, etc. Look for it in a shrink-wrapped jewelcase--no box.

www.valusoft.com has a photo of the packaging.

HTH :)

Graystoke
July 19th, 2003, 01:05 PM
A little update on my experience with Extendia AVK.

I've been running it now for three full days. Aside from a slight hit in system performance, some times pages load a little slower than they did when running NAV, everything is running nicely.

Only thing that concerns me is the lack of documentation and possibly tech support. No where on the software does it show when your virus update subscription ends. I went to www.extendiaAVK.com, but the link to explane how to renew the subscription is dead. I sent off an e-mail to their sales dept., 07/18/03. Hopefully I will get an reply next week. There is a link to FAQ, but the page is blank.

That's it so far. I'll just have to wait till next week to see what happens.

the Tester
July 19th, 2003, 01:38 PM
Hi Hobnob.

I have been looking around the extendia avk site too.
Sent an email also regarding support and renewal terms.

The page being under construction makes sense after I clicked the antivirus labs link.
AVK=GData.
It seems that Gdata is looking for U.S. partners.
It may be that ValuSoft and Boomerang just joined as U.S. partners.

If you get any email response would you post about it?
I'll do the same.

Graystoke
July 19th, 2003, 02:11 PM
Hi the Test. I will post as soon as I get my response.

I take it from your list of software, you are using AVK as a backup to KAV? I'm trying AVK as my primary AV.

Wham-O
July 20th, 2003, 09:10 AM
I've been trying to update my AVK Pro for the last 3 days but all i'm getting is a, 'No connection to the update server can be established(invalid answer)'

I havent changed anything on Extendia or my pc.Am I the only onegetting this response?

the Tester
July 20th, 2003, 11:23 AM
Hobnob.

Yes.I use extendia as a backup to KAV.
Having a second scanner is a habit that I acquired. ;)


Hey Wham-O.
Extendia AVK(not the Pro version)updated for me today.

If you have a firewall, check your logs.
Maybe the firewall is blocking update connection?
Just a thought.

VAN WILDER
September 1st, 2003, 10:22 AM
Yeah this is the Exact AV that i use,I'ts great and you can pick it up here http://search.shopping.yahoo.com/search/all/__yltc=s:22708228,d:14489115,w:search?is=1&p=Extendia+AVK&did= For around $12 and thats including shipping and tax. http://store6.yimg.com/I/cybercitysoftware_1756_3920677

octogen
September 4th, 2003, 01:07 PM
I understand that Extendia AVK uses the KAV engine. Does anyone know which version, 3.5, 4.0 or 4.5?

dukebluedevil
September 5th, 2003, 11:13 AM
In addition to octogen question above. I wonder if any of you who emailed support ever got a respose back to your questions?

Thanks.

JimIT
September 5th, 2003, 11:38 AM
{QUOTE-> quoting: dukebluedevil link=board=24;threadid=11093;start=30#msg85478 date=1062774799]
In addition to octogen question above. I wonder if any of you who emailed support ever got a respose back to your questions?

Thanks.
<-QUOTE}

Regarding the engine version--I'll leave that one to Technodrome, or another mod, but AFAIK, it's "one of the latest".

Regarding support: My experience was a fairly good one. I e-mailed about an error message when AVK started up saying that there were "Missing files, KAV engine". which tech support said may have been caused by an incompatability with PC-cillin.

Response time was within 24 hours, and although I don't think PCC was the problem (it resolved itself after a component download about 3 weeks later) they did provide a prompt answer.

Haven't needed help with 'em since.

HTH

dukebluedevil
September 5th, 2003, 01:03 PM
Thanks Jim!

I would of guessed for the price and since they are just using KAV's engine that there really wouldn't be any support at all. But I guess I was wrong. :)

If there using KAV's 4.5 engine then I have a problem. I tried KAV 4.5 a couple weeks back and it didn't like my system very well for some reason (WinME). It just keep freezing up my system right after KAV loaded. So I then tried KAV 3.5, since i've heard such good things about that version and that one worked great. So that's one reason why im very curious as to what KAV engine there using.

Technodrome
September 5th, 2003, 01:36 PM
{QUOTE-> quoting: octogen link=board=24;threadid=11093;start=30#msg85203 date=1062695251]
I understand that Extendia AVK uses the KAV engine. Does anyone know which version, 3.5, 4.0 or 4.5?
<-QUOTE}

See this thread, http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=11093;start=msg73145#msg73145


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bigc73542
September 21st, 2003, 09:28 PM
I have extendia avk pro installed and I have discovered that it is very sensitive to firewall settings to access the updates.