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Proud User
June 26th, 2003, 05:56 AM
Hello, just found a phrase here:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,978452,00.asp

and I'd like to quote it.

"If your IQ is below 90, get Norton. Otherwise, get NOD32"

No way!, if that means you gotta be a rocket-genious in order to get NOD32 working, then this guy is dead drunk and deserves to have NAV leeching 60% of his system resources while letting viruses go party into his HD.

Intallatiion: intuitive, clean and fast.

Setup: the same, all automatic, plus it would be great having the heuristics set to deep as default, but it doesn't take any Einstein to do one click, does it?.

Updates: you never have to care about it, it will do it all for you.

Of course, if you've been shot in the head and half of your brains pulverized, you're allowed to try the help section.




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Antarctica
June 26th, 2003, 06:15 AM
Fully agree with you Proud User. ;)

Alaska
June 26th, 2003, 06:54 AM
-{ Quote: " quoting: Proud*User link=board=39;threadid=10720;start=0#msg69612 date=1056621390]
Hello, just found a phrase here:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,978452,00.asp

and I'd like to quote it.

"If your IQ is below 90, get Norton. Otherwise, get NOD32"
" }-

I've only had NOD32 installed for a few weeks but I'll admit that before I downloaded it I had read the persons feedback on the 'PCMag' web page that you referred to, so I did a little more researching on anti-virus programs before I made a final decision.
Am I admitting that my I.Q. level is in the basement? ;D

Maybe the person who wrote the feedback visits this forum and will explain why they think it is complicated to operate on the end-user level.

Proud User
June 26th, 2003, 08:18 AM
Not at alll ;D, doing a research is very important before trying any new software, I did it with NOD32 a while back, nevertheless, being unable to properly do an on-demand scan with NOD32, wouldn't set your IQ on the basement, it would take it thousands of feet under pretty close to hell ;D

controler
June 26th, 2003, 09:23 PM
I disagree, I think NAV is one of the best as far as e-mail scanning goes. One of the worst seems to be KAV for resources but I still love it.
I do agree NOD is also one of the best AV's out there today
And I can guarantee just because someone uses NAV does not mean their IQ is below 90. Just wait till you get an undetected keylogger some day and we will see how your AV catches it..

Alaska
June 27th, 2003, 01:03 AM
-{ Quote: " quoting: controler link=board=39;threadid=10720;start=0#msg69780 date=1056676998] Just wait till you get an undetected keylogger some day and we will see how your AV catches it.." }-

Since a keylogger would be a trojan, hence the need to have an anti-trojan program installed. ::)

Added on edit: And the need to have a good firewall.

Proud User
June 27th, 2003, 08:34 AM
NAV e-mail scanning is too slow, buggy, dead limited and offers almost no security at all. One of the reasons I started looking for a better AV was the fact that I couldn't stand NAV's mediocre virus detection skills any longer, too many worms and trojans infected my computer thru my e-mail client (Outlook Express for that time, now I use Becky! 2). I don't care if my AV will clean viruses from my comp, the idea is having it to detect them before they reach your system, that's what makes of an AV a good AV. Once the virus has fuct your machine, nothing else matter cos it would be too late.

KAV is ok for Pentium 4 users, it won't run smooth but detetcs alot of KNOWN viruses and gets rid of them as well. I tried it before I knew about NOD32 but my machine was too slow to even handle NAV. However, NOD32 isn't one of the best AV out there, it's the best, theres actually nothing NOD32 can't detect and it would work fast even in Pentium 100, maybe under.

NAV's fame which stands for a great AV is just an overbearing high-level marketing plus a bunch of lies from bought consciences like C-net's.

Proud User
June 27th, 2003, 08:38 AM
Double posting!, damnit, there should be a way to get rid of these ;D

Pieter_Arntz
June 27th, 2003, 08:40 AM
-{ Quote: " quoting: Proud*User link=board=39;threadid=10720;start=0#msg69869 date=1056717519]
Double posting!, damnit, there should be a way to get rid of these ;D
" }-

There is, and I already did. :D

Regards,

Pieter

controler
June 27th, 2003, 10:04 AM
Alsaka?

If you have allowed your firewall access to the internet, how will your firewall stop the outgoing connection your e-mail client made without your knowledge?
I think I have beat this e-mail subject to death by now.

I know for a fact, that if you are running NAV and have the splash screen set to kick on when you send mail, it will, weather your e-mail client is open or not. Weren't we talking e-mail protection?
the most common way of getting a nasty is via e-mail, next best would be a malformed web page, which then requires script monitoring.

Proud User
June 27th, 2003, 10:43 AM
He's probably using Norton Personal Firewall ;D

controler
June 27th, 2003, 11:34 AM
I won't waste my time on this thread again.
Symantec's Firewall has nothing to do with it. All the firewalls do the same thing in reguards to allowing your mail client. OF corse, if you are the paranoid kind. you won't have your firewall to kick on a warning each time you open your e-mail client or browser.
All I can say is your are trying to start a flame here at Wilders, it won't work. I douhgt any of the others will comment on this wasted thread also.
I am only giving my opinion of NAV's e-mail client. I personaly don't think there is a better for e-mail. That is my opinion only.

con

Alaska
June 27th, 2003, 12:53 PM
-{ Quote: " quoting: controler link=board=39;threadid=10720;start=0#msg69889 date=1056722693]If you have allowed your firewall access to the internet, how will your firewall stop the outgoing connection your e-mail client made without your knowledge?" }-

Actually if my E-mail program was tampered with to where it made an automatic mailing to the outside my firewall would pop up a box telling me that that the program has changed do I want to allow the change. And I'm not religious about reading the connections made log of my firewall but the connections my e-mail client made would also be logged.

-{ Quote: " quoting: controler link=board=39;threadid=10720;start=0#msg69889 date=1056722693]the most common way of getting a nasty is via e-mail, next best would be a malformed web page, which then requires script monitoring." }-

I have no arguement for you on the security risk a browser can pose, we agree on that.

-{ Quote: " quoting: controler link=board=39;threadid=10720;start=0#msg69918 date=1056728092]
I won't waste my time on this thread again." }-

Fine with me, the thread started with a post discussing the simplicity or complexness of NOD32 on the end-user level compared to another software producers product, not its superiorness, or lack thereof, in the e-mail department.

Paul Wilders
June 27th, 2003, 02:43 PM
Gents,

It's Ok to agree to disagree. No need to fall in love, no need to get angry either ;).

regards.

paul