How to use the MS Net Framework??

[Tom772]

hi,

Sorry not sure where to post. I have Net Framework installed like alot of people, but i am not sure how to properly use or configure this part of windows and what it really does!! So i way wondering if anyone has any links or info how to secure and use this function of Windows??

Would really like some help on this,

Thanks T

[bigc73542]

You might get a little info on .net here (http://www.w3schools.com/ngws/default.asp)

[T772]

-{ Quote: "You might get a little info on .net here (http://www.w3schools.com/ngws/default.asp)" }-
Thanks bigC:)

regards

T

[gemmaK]

is .NET framework worth installing? it's huge, do we really need it?

regards
gemma

[Nick Rhodes]

-{ Quote: "is .NET framework worth installing? it's huge, do we really need it?

regards
gemma" }-

You ONLY need it if you have any applications that need it.

The .net framework is a collection of librarys, it is similar to having a set of common dlls in say the common folder in program files that various applications will access.

[Tom772]

-{ Quote: "You ONLY need it if you have any applications that need it.

The .net framework is a collection of librarys, it is similar to having a set of common dlls in say the common folder in program files that various applications will access." }-Nickr is there any to check to see if it is misconfigured in an unsecure way and see what users are using the NEtframework??

T

[Rico]

Hi Guys,

-{ Quote: "Originally Posted by nickr
You ONLY need it if you have any applications that need it." }-

I have I believe one program that requires NetFrame, the software for my ATI video card. Should I upgrade NetFrame to version 2?

Also when I saw the version 2 of .Net Framework, Should I also get Direct X 9.0 Managed DirectX.

Thanks
rico

[Nick Rhodes]

-{ Quote: "Nickr is there any to check to see if it is misconfigured in an unsecure way and see what users are using the NEtframework??

T" }-


You can go into administration tools .net and also go to the .net folders (in windows folder) and check the permissions of the folders in side there. I usually cross reference with another machine or google, as not something I really look into (even though I spend all day developing .net apps !)

[Nick Rhodes]

-{ Quote: "Hi Guys,



I have I believe one program that requires NetFrame, the software for my ATI video card. Should I upgrade NetFrame to version 2?

Also when I saw the version 2 of .Net Framework, Should I also get Direct X 9.0 Managed DirectX.

Thanks
rico" }-

There is nothing wrong with installing version 2 of the framework, but the specific software has to of been written/compiled for .net 2. So in your case there is no need unless your ATi software specifies it.
Sorry, I have not looked at Managed DirectX yet.

[StevieO]

This might provide some food for thought.


What are the 'Real World' security advantages of the .Net Framework and the JVM?

The reason I am asking this question is because the way the .Net Framework and the JVM are used in the real world, I don't see any major advantages between them and C++, ASP Classic, PHP, ...(put your favorite language/development platform here)..., etc...

The bottom line, is that in the 'Real Word', most .Net Applications execute with Full Trust and most Java based applications run with the Security Manager disabled. This means that the protections and security advantages provided by the Virtual Machine's Sandboxes (CLR and JVM) are close to useless since malicious code executed in those process can easily bypassed it.

The reality is that 'Real World' .Net and Java applications are insecure by design, insecure by default and insecure in deployment, because their entire security model is based on the fact that no malicious code will be executed in its environment.

etc etc

https://www.threatsandcountermeasures.com/blogs/diniscruz/archive/2005/11/02/649.aspx


StevieO

[StevieO]

This might provide some food for thought !

What are the 'Real World' security advantages of the .Net Framework and the JVM?

The reason I am asking this question is because the way the .Net Framework and the JVM are used in the real world, I don't see any major advantages between them and C++, ASP Classic, PHP, ...(put your favorite language/development platform here)..., etc...

The bottom line, is that in the 'Real Word', most .Net Applications execute with Full Trust and most Java based applications run with the Security Manager disabled. This means that the protections and security advantages provided by the Virtual Machine's Sandboxes (CLR and JVM) are close to useless since malicious code executed in those process can easily bypassed it.

The reality is that 'Real World' .Net and Java applications are insecure by design, insecure by default and insecure in deployment, because their entire security model is based on the fact that no malicious code will be executed in its environment.

etc etc

https://www.threatsandcountermeasures.com/blogs/diniscruz/archive/2005/11/02/649.aspx


StevieO

[Don Pelotas]

-{ Quote: "Hi Guys,



I have I believe one program that requires NetFrame, the software for my ATI video card. Should I upgrade NetFrame to version 2?

Also when I saw the version 2 of .Net Framework, Should I also get Direct X 9.0 Managed DirectX.

Thanks
rico" }-
Nico, ATI supplies versions without the need for .Net Framework. Just use the Control Panel version. They even have an uninstaller as you can see here:https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27.:)

[Rico]

Hi Don & Nick, Thanks for the info!

I installed MS Framework for the ATI Catalyst driver along time ago. I think I'll just leave it alone.

Thanks Again
rico