Kaspersky 2006/Kis 2006 beta1 released.

[Don Pelotas]

You can download them here:http://downloads1.kaspersky-labs.com/beta/.

Info including the updated upgrade policy on the official 2006 beta page:http://www.kaspersky.com/beta?product=165219909.

I would strongly suggest that those who are interested take a look at the release notes, which of course includes known bugs, how to submit bugreports etc.:)

[nicM]

...they are punctual!

And Thanks for the link :)

[ellison64]

Don ...can you clarify what this means exactly in known bugs...

12. Concurrent installation of the Kaspersky Anti-Virus and Outpost personal firewall is prohibited under Windows 98

tia
ellison

[.....]

ellison64, that means if you use windows 98 and outpost firewall KAV won't install.

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> Don ...can you clarify what this means exactly in known bugs...

12. Concurrent installation of the Kaspersky Anti-Virus and Outpost personal firewall is prohibited under Windows 98

tia
ellison <-QUOTE}
It means you can't use them together on W98 ATM.:)

[ellison64]

Thank you both for clarification.......Ive just reinstalled windows and previously used the beta 207 with outpost with no problems,however after reinstalling windows and using 222a i did indeed experience problems , so using nod for the time being.Looking foreward to the fix :)
thanks again
ellison

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> Thank you both for clarification.......Ive just reinstalled windows and previously used the beta 207 with outpost with no problems,however after reinstalling windows and using 222a i did indeed experience problems , so using nod for the time being.Looking foreward to the fix :)
thanks again
ellison <-QUOTE}
Ellison, you can use Outpost with with the beta version 222b, you just have to disable port 80, 25 & 110 in the webscan module for the time being, if you download & use the 2006 suite, the problem doesn't exist.:)

[ellison64]

Thanks for that tip Don...A day or so ago i renewed licence for nod , so ill probably stay with that until Kav finals out early in the new year.I will still have about 6 months left on my kav licence so will upgrade to 6 proper then.After tasting 6 beta for a while i didnt want to go back to kav 5 either :).Unusually kav 6 is better on w98resources ( gdi ,system ,user) on my machine ,than the current nod which suprised me , so looking forward to the final release now.
Thanks again
ellison

[dja2k]

I read you need a license to use the beta version and that Kav 5 licenses don't work, is that true?

dja2k

[ellison64]

Kav 5 licencse doesnt work with beta , but when you install beta just choose "activate later" option on the key prompt screen .You will then be allowed updates etc until the beta key expires which is late jan or early feb i believe.
ellison.

[dja2k]

Thanks! I already installed it and put activate later. Everything seems to be working fine for now...;D

By the way, do you think that the proactive registry protection included in KAV 2006 is as good as RegDefend seeing that you can add your own rules making RegDefend obsolete, not that I would want to remove RegDefend any time soon. Although Kav 2006 has 81 registry key protection compared to the 85 or so that RegDefend comes standard with. RegDefend does take priority first then Kav second as I noticed RegDefend pops up first, though when RegDefend is disabled, Kav is quite quick like RegDefend.

dja2k

[nicM]

About licence: I got it in the release note txt file, in the link provided by Don Pelotas.

I'm taken aback by this new Kaspersky :o : this is the lightest AV I've ever seen, the GUI was nicely improved, and it's running very smooth: wow! :o There are few settings that I can't see here (heuristics, network protection, etc).

Think I've found my next one *puppy*

[Rasheed187]

I will I check it out when I buy my new PC next week, but I have to say that I hope that it has improved a lot in the last couple of months because if I check out the KAV forum it seems that it has been extremely buggy. :o

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> I will I check it out when I buy my new PC next week, but I have to say that I hope that it has improved a lot in the last couple of months because if I check out the KAV forum it seems that it has been extremely buggy. :o <-QUOTE}
Of course it's been buggy, it's a beta, but how much is debateble, on my pc it has been very stable in last builds and this is also why it's now an official beta from version 222b and on.:)

[woobook]

I think KIS 2006 is very good, especially I am interested in its proactive protection. Maybe I shall buy it. But I learn in many place that its KAH is not good, many people like use KAV + other firewall. I dont like such way, I like a antivirus with its own firewall.
Would any body tell me what is its weak point.

[RejZoR]

Well they have significantly improved Anti-Hacker in KIS2006...

[dja2k]

I have had no problems with the offical beta from KAV 2006. I see no bugs in it so far. The proactive module is working fine also. If and when I see a problem, I will report back, but so far it is running smoothly.

dja2k

[RejZoR]

We already polished it nearly to perfection ;) There is still lots of work to be done for Proactive Defense, but apart from taht, everything appears to be working fine. KL guys just have to fix few bitmaps here and there and their ready. Of course there will be more compatibility testing in the end...

[GoD]

its about time i give KAV 2006 beta 1 a try..
Thanks for the heads up DON ;)

[dja2k]

{QUOTE-> We already polished it nearly to perfection ;) There is still lots of work to be done for Proactive Defense, but apart from taht, everything appears to be working fine. KL guys just have to fix few bitmaps here and there and their ready. Of course there will be more compatibility testing in the end... <-QUOTE}

About there is still lots of work to be done for Proactive Defense, what do you mean? What part of it isn't working good? Is the work for improvements or fixing current bugs?

dja2k

[RejZoR]

It's way to sensitive triggering on things that it shouldn't.
Some parts also appear incomplete...

[GoD]

KAV 2006 beta 1
Seems very stable for a beta 1 release so far.
1- Hanged my computer for a couple of seconds when startup scan was initiated ( had to disable it from running after reboot - added it to a schd. time )

Tested this famous leak site:
http://www.firewallleaktester.com/leaktest11.htm

Using KAV 2006 Only. It managed to block ALL of the tests.. which has never been done before by one program (based on my experience)

Excellent job KAV.. having faith in your product was never a mistake. Keep it up.

[Mele20]

AntiHacker is what is screwing up this site and the Kaspersky boards. I never knew with the earlier betas exactly what was doing it. If I turn off AntiHacker, I can post here without problems and at the Kaspersky boards. If I have AntiHacker running, when I try to post at these two sites, I get a download box for showthread.php. I cancel the download but Fx is still sitting on the page where I type my post. I can't tell whether it has posted or not. I have to just go to the thread and look. This is getting a bit tiresome. Every beta has done this. Otherwise, so far, this beta is looking very good.

[Brandon]

Looks good so far just way too much popups for training mode for AntiHacker...Even I choose "All Activity" a ton of popups from AntiHacker still come up..All this happens just by opening IE.

Regards,

Brandon

[octogen]

Has anyone tried running KAV 2006 along with Process Guard and RegDefend? The reason I ask is that I notice in the features sheet for KAV 2006, it will do a lot of what Process Guard (e.g. Rootkit Detection, Anti-Hook, Code Injection and RegDefend do. Should conflicts arise I was also wondering if there is a way to turn some of these features off. If not, I wonder if Kaspersky Labs will offer a Lite version, i.e. AV only. So many questions....::) Thanks in advance.

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> Has anyone tried running KAV 2006 along with Process Guard and RegDefend? The reason I ask is that I notice in the features sheet for KAV 2006, it will do a lot of what Process Guard (e.g. Rootkit Detection, Anti-Hook, Code Injection and RegDefend do. Should conflicts arise I was also wondering if there is a way to turn some of these features off. If not, I wonder if Kaspersky Labs will offer a Lite version, i.e. AV only. So many questions....::) Thanks in advance. <-QUOTE}
Yes, in fact you can deselect the different modules during the install.:)

[GoD]

{QUOTE-> Has anyone tried running KAV 2006 along with Process Guard and RegDefend? The reason I ask is that I notice in the features sheet for KAV 2006, it will do a lot of what Process Guard (e.g. Rootkit Detection, Anti-Hook, Code Injection and RegDefend do. Should conflicts arise I was also wondering if there is a way to turn some of these features off. If not, I wonder if Kaspersky Labs will offer a Lite version, i.e. AV only. So many questions....::) Thanks in advance. <-QUOTE}

Why do u need a lite version when u can have an all in one package that uses 10mb of ur ram only ! and it works fluently you should give it a chance just to try it out... and yeah as don said it can be disabled :)

less softwares = less bloated pc ;D

Good luck :)

[dja2k]

{QUOTE-> Why do u need a lite version when u can have an all in one package that uses 10mb of ur ram only ! and it works fluently you should give it a chance just to try it out... and yeah as don said it can be disabled :)

less softwares = less bloated pc ;D

Good luck :) <-QUOTE}

I agree with the less software = less bloated pc, though do you trust the registry protection from KAV 2006 beta enough to disable and turn off regdefend? Now that is the question.

dja2k

[octogen]

{QUOTE-> Yes, in fact you can deselect the different modules during the install. <-QUOTE}

Thanks, Don! That is good to hear.

{QUOTE-> Why do u need a lite version when u can have an all in one package that uses 10mb <-QUOTE}

I don't...that's why I prefaced the second part of the question with "if not". ;) I just prefer using software that specializes in a specific task.

{QUOTE-> though do you trust the registry protection from KAV 2006 beta enough to disable and turn off regdefend? <-QUOTE}
Precisely why I would keep PG and RegDefend, and only install AV related modules when I upgrade to KAV 2006. That way each software is doing what it specializes in.:) BTW, RegDefend and PG are very light on resources.

[q1aqza]

Been playing with KIS2006 (for the first time) for a couple of hours this evening. All I can say is "WOW"

I find hard to believe that there is so much protection available for around 10MB RAM usage.

[isnogood]

I noticed 2 negative things after install of this beta.
First, a serious slowdown during windows startup, as well as longer loading of different programs (ex. firefox).
Second, a strange alert which I consider as false positive, concerning explorer.exe.
Each time I launch any application, KAV warns me about "Invader" riskware, or unknown virus trying to inject itself into that application.
I encounter this on two different systems. Both have been protected by PG from the beginning, and explorer.exe was always protected from modification, so I don't believe it is a real threat. I just don't know what's the origin of this alert. KAV5 has never noticed anything, and the system does not look compromised. Does anybody else have seen this kind of message ? I run KAV along with PG, RegDefend and Tiny firewall.

[dja2k]

I run KAV 2006 along side the same apps as you and I have had no problem. Serious slowdowns; I thought my system was running a bit faster and more smooth than with KAV 5. I haven't gotten any of the popups you mention, nothing of a kind except a virus mailer message from RegDefend update which was false. All the other popups I always see are registry allow or block messages. I don't get how others say they have problems with the proactive module when mine is running just fine.

dja2k

[isnogood]

Strange,

The same "Invader" was also just detected at startup in the ATI control panel, and in the mailwasher, but only when it started to process mail, ie. it launched my mail client. I start to think that it concerns process spawning in some sort, but it's surely not the only reason. Perhaps I will try to do a clean system install (Win2K by the way), and try KAV2006 upon this.
About slowdowns - it's OK now, I have the impression that it was just the first time, as it has to build its NTFS streams to the applications scanned at startup and execution. I have also checked the "high" security profile.
So my only question mark remains this false? positive.

[Peter2150]

Hi Isnogood

I have also seen the slow down at windows startup you are talking about. Once up and running the beta is fast. The slow down started when they fixed something between build 217 and 218.

I hope you go to the kaspersky forum under beta testing and report this. So far I've been the only one.

Pete

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> Strange,

The same "Invader" was also just detected at startup in the ATI control panel, and in the mailwasher, but only when it started to process mail, ie. it launched my mail client. I start to think that it concerns process spawning in some sort, but it's surely not the only reason. Perhaps I will try to do a clean system install (Win2K by the way), and try KAV2006 upon this.
About slowdowns - it's OK now, I have the impression that it was just the first time, as it has to build its NTFS streams to the applications scanned at startup and execution. I have also checked the "high" security profile.
So my only question mark remains this false? positive. <-QUOTE}
I don't see this "Invader" alerts, but i use XP, so maybe you should register at kaspersky forum and participate in the development.

It's iSwift now btw, not NTFS streams and they are in a database FIDBOX in windows folder instead of utilizing streams.:)

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> Hi Isnogood

I have also seen the slow down at windows startup you are talking about. Once up and running the beta is fast. The slow down started when they fixed something between build 217 and 218.

I hope you go to the kaspersky forum under beta testing and report this. So far I've been the only one.

Pete <-QUOTE}
Hi Pete

I also have reported this slowdown, it is known issue and in fact i have to wait until the startup scan is finished and then the speed is there as you also see with your system.:)

[Peter2150]

{QUOTE-> Hi Pete

I also have reported this slowdown, it is known issue and in fact i have to wait until the startup scan is finished and then the speed is there as you also see with your system.:) <-QUOTE}

Hi Don

I am not sure it is related to the startup scan. If you select the only check new and changed that should be pretty quick. My normal startup time is 55 seconds, but with KAV2006 it takes almost 3 minutes. If I turn off File antivirus it goes back to normal. I may try disabling startup scan, if I can, and see if that makes a difference.

Pete

[isnogood]

Thank you guys,
I will report both my issues at KAV forum. But the fact that I am the only one with this "invader" riskware starts to bother me a little more ??? Still hope it's not a real threat.

[Peter2150]

Hi Don

Just did a quick test. Startup scan off and FIle antivirus on. Boot time 3 minutes. It isn't the startup scan as such. There is some problem in the File Antivirus module.

Pete

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> Hi Don

Just did a quick test. Startup scan off and FIle antivirus on. Boot time 3 minutes. It isn't the startup scan as such. There is some problem in the File Antivirus module.

Pete <-QUOTE}
Hi Pete

Could be, i haven't done any real tests on this, i just know that if i use the pc before the startup scan is done which is about 2-3 minutes on my pc, it freezes, but i just power it up 5 minutes before needing it and then it's ok.:)

Btw. The startup doens't take any longer than with 5.0 on my pc, it's just the connection which needs a tweak.

[nicM]

I did fix my startup delay problem by disabling startup scan.

But there's another issue, more important for me: the file antivirus does nearly prevent any big folder opening :-\ : try to explore a cd with multiples files....the computer hangs for a long time. Not pleasant :-\ . Anybody does have the same issue?

[Peter2150]

{QUOTE-> Hi Pete



Btw. The startup doens't take any longer than with 5.0 on my pc, it's just the connection which needs a tweak. <-QUOTE}

I didn't see this with 5.0 or any 2006 build prior to Build 218.

Had I seen this with 5.0, I'd have never purchased KAV. 5.0 and all 2006 builds 217 and below were very similiar in start up time.

[Blackcat]

On a number of machines, I have not seen any slowdown in bootup times with any of the (pre) beta builds :P :D :-X ;D

[dja2k]

{QUOTE->

It's iSwift now btw, not NTFS streams and they are in a database FIDBOX in windows folder instead of utilizing streams.:) <-QUOTE}

I made the mistake of not removing the NTFS KAV streams when I uninstalled KAV 5 thinking that KAV 2006 used them too. Should I remove KAV 2006, install KAV 5 and remove it along with the streams, and then re-install KAV 2006. Or it doesn't matter if the KAV streams from version 5 stay in my system?

dja2k

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> I made the mistake of not removing the NTFS KAV streams when I uninstalled KAV 5 thinking that KAV 2006 used them too. Should I remove KAV 2006, install KAV 5 and remove it along with the streams, and then re-install KAV 2006. Or it doesn't matter if the KAV streams from version 5 stay in my system?

dja2k <-QUOTE}
Don't worry Kav 2006 will remove them for you on your first on-demand scan.:)

[dja2k]

Are you sure about that cause rootkit revealer still finds some files with the KAVCS on them?

dja2k

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> Are you sure about that cause rootkit revealer still finds some files with the KAVCS on them?

dja2k <-QUOTE}
Yes, i'm sure, i have made this procedure quite a few times, when i remove 5.0 i usually do it in safemode (best successrate in removing the ADS), in my case 1-5 is remaining (sometimes none), but they are always gone after installing 2006. Of course 2006 is still beta so you may see a different scenario. :)

[q1aqza]

{QUOTE-> Been playing with KIS2006 (for the first time) for a couple of hours this evening. All I can say is "WOW"

I find hard to believe that there is so much protection available for around 10MB RAM usage. <-QUOTE}

I still stand by my earlier comment but I am experiencing high CPU utilisation - around 90-94 % !! I will report this but I'm sure something this serious will be sorted in no time. Anyone experiencing the same? The weird thing about it is that it doesn't seem to be affecting the performance of my PC even though CPU is constantly at the 90+ % mark.

[Blackcat]

{QUOTE-> I still stand by my earlier comment but I am experiencing high CPU utilisation - around 90-94 % !! <-QUOTE}
Are you running any other software, for example SafeNSec, that may overlap with the ProActive Defense module of KAV?

[JohnH]

Kaspersky Forum

Is the forum down today, or is just my computer..?

[Oldjim]

seems to be down

[q1aqza]

Blackcat, no nothing, I installed it on a clean test partition that had no other security apps.

I just restored a clean build and tried just KAV2006 Beta 1 rather than KIS and I'm not seeing any high CPU use at all. Must be something in my set up that some of the KIS components don't like.

How do I submit this to Kaspersky? Their forum seems to be down this morning.

[Zephyr77]

Hello,

New member here at Wilder. Was not aware of this forum until I started researching AV/Security software. What an informative forum!

Anyway, I've been wanting to switch to a different IS program and since my subscription for NIS 2005 is up next week, the timing is right. I've pretty much decided to go with KIS 2006. I'm the type of person who likes the integrated solutions for AV, Spam, Firewall, etc.

I'm going to downlod and install the Beta but have a quick question. I can't find info on the Kaspersky site re: annual subscription fees. Can someone enlighten me? I'm going to need three licenses.

Lastly, my assumption is that I'll need to go through the pain of uninstalling NIS 2005, hopefully without issues. I remember reading a detailed process for removing Symantec products on the Kaspersky forum. Since their forum is down, can someone help with detailed info on the steps necessary, other than Add/Remove Programs.

Thanks!
-Zeph

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> Hello,

New member here at Wilder. Was not aware of this forum until I started researching AV/Security software. What an informative forum!

Anyway, I've been wanting to switch to a different IS program and since my subscription for NIS 2005 is up next week, the timing is right. I've pretty much decided to go with KIS 2006. I'm the type of person who likes the integrated solutions for AV, Spam, Firewall, etc.

I'm going to downlod and install the Beta but have a quick question. I can't find info on the Kaspersky site re: annual subscription fees. Can someone enlighten me? I'm going to need three licenses.

Lastly, my assumption is that I'll need to go through the pain of uninstalling NIS 2005, hopefully without issues. I remember reading a detailed process for removing Symantec products on the Kaspersky forum. Since their forum is down, can someone help with detailed info on the steps necessary, other than Add/Remove Programs.

Thanks!
-Zeph <-QUOTE}
Hi

If you only had Nis 2005 installed, then after you have uninstalled it & rebooted, delete any Norton folders left behind (use search) then run the Norton tool symNRT (ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/linked_files/tsgen/SymNRT.exe) and install the trial of RegSupreme (http://www.macecraft.com/regsupreme/) & fix what it finds in normalmode. You're done.

If you have had several different versions of Norton installed over the years, then it would be a good idea to run all four Norton tools in this order: symNRT, Rnav2003, RnisUPG & SYMCLN, you can download them here:http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/pfdocs/2005033108162039?Open

The annual renewal-fee is 30% off the fullprice, but you won't need a key until 2006 is released sometime in jan/2006, so if you buy now don't use the key until then, because the gets activated with the first update. When you install the beta, you just choose "Activate later" when it asks for a key. It's mainly there to test a new way of activation.

Btw Newegg has big discounts on the suite here (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681370466SF), you can just buy the key(s) now and download the latest version from the official site when the time comes.:)

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> Hello,

New member here at Wilder. Was not aware of this forum until I started researching AV/Security software. What an informative forum! <-QUOTE}Welcome aboard Zephy77! Don's handled most of the details on uninstalling NIS...

{QUOTE-> Anyway, I've been wanting to switch to a different IS program and since my subscription for NIS 2005 is up next week, the timing is right. I've pretty much decided to go with KIS 2006. I'm the type of person who likes the integrated solutions for AV, Spam, Firewall, etc.

I'm going to downlod and install the Beta but have a quick question. I can't find info on the Kaspersky site re: annual subscription fees. Can someone enlighten me? I'm going to need three licenses. <-QUOTE}There has been no official word on prices as of yet. They have mentioned the upgrade paths here (http://www.kaspersky.com/beta?product=165219909), although that is at slight variance with what was stated in the forum. According to the forum, current licensees of Kaspersky Personal Security Suite and KAV Pro would have a free upgrade to KIS 2006 while the direct upgrade of KAV Personal 5.0 would be to KAV 2006. If you look at the current pricing of those products, that would put per seat cost in the range of $50-60, assuming you went with a fresh purchase instead of the discount route noted by Don.

Blue

[Zephyr77]

Thanks Don & Blue!

I'll work with the KIS Beta to get a feel for the program. If all is well, I'll buy the keys from Newegg.

-Zeph

[BlueZannetti]

Zeph,

One last mention since the KL forums are down...., when you install and get to the point to activate the program, just select Activate Later.

Blue

[Smokey]

{QUOTE->
If you have had several different versions of Norton installed over the years, then it would be a good idea to run all four Norton tools in this order: symNRT, Rnav2003, RnisUPG & SYMCLN, you can download them here:http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/pfdocs/2005033108162039?Open
<-QUOTE}
Hi Don,

txs for the link!:)

[twig]

kind of like the kis223 release. running it on a clean system with no other security apps. Its so lite and breezy on my system considering the amount of security it covers .

[dja2k]

Just curious, but how good is the firewall included with KIS 2006? Can you setup custom rules on it?

dja2k

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> Just curious, but how good is the firewall included with KIS 2006? Can you setup custom rules on it?

dja2k <-QUOTE}
ATM it paases the leaktest's, but it is not finished yet and snort rules will probably first be implimented in beta2. Yes, of course you can make custom rules.

Many of your Kav/Kis 2006 questions has a better chance of a precise answer in the betasection of the forum:http://forum.kaspersky.com/

[Eliot]

KAV2006 is awesome IMHO. I can't use KIS because of a bloody BSOD. I get the same thing with almost every software firewall, so no big deal there, lol.

[Rasheed187]

Well, I was satisfied with Kav 5, only thing that I didn´t like was that you couldn´t run it on slow machines, so I installed AntiVir. Also, I was using a keylogger, KAV kept complaining about it, even though I had added it to the exlcusion list, very annoying, I hope it´s fixed. But I´m reading a lot of positive stuff, I will test it next week, but should I install it on VMWare first, is it already stable enough? ::)

[dja2k]

Well, I removed Kav 2006 and Look'n'Stop to install KIS 2006 Full just to see what the fuzz was about. All I have to say is , WOW! Someone in the Kaspersky Labs sure is doing their work. KIS 2006 sure looks like its going to be a near-solid or even solid foundation for an all-in-one security package IMO.

dja2k

[The Hammer]

{QUOTE-> Well, I removed Kav 2006 and Look'n'Stop to install KIS 2006 Full just to see what the fuzz was about. All I have to say is , WOW! Someone in the Kaspersky Labs sure is doing their work. KIS 2006 sure looks like its going to be a near-solid or even solid foundation for an all-in-one security package IMO.

dja2k <-QUOTE}I know the Av component is top notch and the firewall component is also pretty good, but I am keen to hear about how well the other components do their job.

[dja2k]

{QUOTE-> I know the Av component is top notch and the firewall component is also pretty good, but I am keen to hear about how well the other components do their job. <-QUOTE}

Everyone seems to debate the idea of having an all-in-one security suite around here as well, people don't really want to comment on how the registry protection of KAV comprares to RegDefend. Well about the proactive, yeah I am also learning more and more about it everyday. So far, the registry protection is almost up there with RegDefend IMO as I see many duplicate popups, one from KAV and one from RD for regular registry changes. I think KIS has about 81 registry entries to protect while RD has about 83 or so + Custom. Though, there is still some difference between their keys that they cover becasuse sometimes I see a popup from KAV not RD and vise versa. Also RD has the option to allow all via a checkmark to prevent further popups from the same action to appear, KIS doesn't. About the other proactive protection, don't really know what they are doing since I haven't seen any popups or information by them.

dja2k

[The Hammer]

{QUOTE-> Well about the proactive, yeah I am also learning more and more about it everyday. So far, the registry protection is almost up there with RegDefend IMO as I see many duplicate popups, one from KAV and one from RD for regular registry changes. I think KIS has about 82 registry entries to protect while RD has about 90 or so + Custom. Though, there is still some difference between their keys that they cover because sometimes I see a pop up from KAV not RD and vise versa. Also RD has the option to allow all via a checkmark to prevent further popups from the same action to appear, KIS doesn't. About the other proactive protection, don't really know what they are doing since I haven't seen any popups or information by them.

dja2k <-QUOTE}What about KAV's Antispam and antispyware? The antispam in F-Secure's 2006 suite is said to be not very good and it's anti spy supposedly does not play well with other antispy programs requiring their uninstall.

[dja2k]

{QUOTE-> What about KAV's Antispam and antispyware? The antispam in F-Secure's 2006 suite is said to be not very good and it's anti spy supposedly does not play well with other antispy programs requiring their uninstall. <-QUOTE}

Don't really know what you mean by antispyware cause the KAV is the best AV to spot out and detect adware and spyware by itself with its extended database. As far as the antispan, don't really know as I haven't messed with it yet. The anti spy was said to produce false positives, though don't know if they have gotten fixed with the updates. I will continue to use KIS 2006 and see how it goes.

dja2k

[The Hammer]

{QUOTE-> Don't really know what you mean by antispyware cause the KAV is the best AV to spot out and detect adware and spyware by itself with its extended database. As far as the antispan, don't really know as I haven't messed with it yet. The anti spy was said to produce false positives, though don't know if they have gotten fixed with the updates. I will continue to use KIS 2006 and see how it goes.

dja2k <-QUOTE}I saw a review that said F-Secure's 2006 suite required the uninstall of Adaware and Spybot. That's why I asked about Kaspersky's Antispyware.

[dja2k]

{QUOTE-> I saw a review that said F-Secure's 2006 suite required the uninstall of Adaware and Spybot. That's why I asked about Kaspersky's Antispyware. <-QUOTE}

There isn't any conflict here with any antispyware program. Maybe you are comfusing the Anti-Spy module from the KIS suite with resident antispyware scanners from alternative companies. The KIS Anti-Spy covers sections of Anti-Phishing (credit cards), a Pop-Up Blocer, an Anti-Banner, and an Anti-Dialer.

dja2k

[mata7]

does anyone have any idea went this product will be out?

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> does anyone have any idea went this product will be out? <-QUOTE}
It is scheduled for release in jan/2006.

[The Hammer]

{QUOTE-> There isn't any conflict here with any antispyware program. Maybe you are comfusing the Anti-Spy module from the KIS suite with resident antispyware scanners from alternative companies. The KIS Anti-Spy covers sections of Anti-Phishing (credit cards), a Pop-Up Blocer, an Anti-Banner, and an Anti-Dialer.

dja2k <-QUOTE}No I'm asking if it's similar to F-Secure's. But I can see from your post that it's not.

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> No I'm asking if it's similar to F-Secure's. But I can see from your post that it's not. <-QUOTE}
The reason F-Secure requires you to uninstall Ad-Aware is because their "own" AS is simply a rebranded version of............Ad-Aware.;) You can still use Ad-Aware with 2006, but if you use a hostfile too, you would be very unlucky if it finds anything other than cookies.:)

[mata7]

{QUOTE-> It is scheduled for release in jan/2006. <-QUOTE}

thanks for let me know, cant wait it look fantastic

[The Hammer]

{QUOTE-> The reason F-Secure requires you to uninstall Ad-Aware is because their "own" AS is simply a rebranded version of............Ad-Aware.;) You can still use Ad-Aware with 2006, but if you use a hostfile too, you would be very unlucky if it finds anything other than cookies.:) <-QUOTE}
According to the review Spybot also has to be uninstalled. But enough about F-Secure from me as Iv'e derailed this thread long enough. http://www.webuser.co.uk/products/FSecure_Internet_Security_2006_review_2781.html

[dja2k]

You can download the new 6.0.15.225 built in this link ftp://kav2006:Fynb02dbhec60@data.kaspersky.ru/ - thank the posters on the kaspersky forums for this link. Though you might find that new download to show the same built as the one here http://downloads1.kaspersky-labs.com/beta/ in the information dialog box during the installation. You will see they are different size, they both say 6.0.15.222 in the information dialog in the installation, but the built 6.0.15.225 is 11,467 KB and the old beta 6.0.15.222 is 11,291 KB. You will clarify that its the new 6.0.15.225 built once installed.

dja2k

[fun.cat]

{QUOTE-> I still stand by my earlier comment but I am experiencing high CPU utilisation - around 90-94 % !! I will report this but I'm sure something this serious will be sorted in no time. Anyone experiencing the same? The weird thing about it is that it doesn't seem to be affecting the performance of my PC even though CPU is constantly at the 90+ % mark. <-QUOTE}

regarding CPU utilisation read this:
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=4949&view=findpost&p=34324

[maddawgz]

Anyone tried Ewido with Kaspersky ?? do u need to u think? R MD

update
still a bit cloggy on the pc!! Darn

[davehries]

I am using a paid version of ewido 3.5 and it works great with KAV and KIS.

Ewido does seem to have an issue with Microsoft Anti-Spyware. I now only use MSAS in the on demand mode.

KAV beta1 has been very solid for me. I am going to move up to 225 this weekend.

[iwod]

Ram usage. For all that is included i will say it is low. But i think CPU usage is still rather high . I am wondering if the iswift tech is the same as istream where previously scanned files wont be scanned again if they haven't changed? ( I.e doing a full system scan should improvement the performance ? )

Another thing i notice is that changing from Mid to High Security level dont have any difference in performance.

Defrag while KAV is on was more like scanning the whole computer ^^"

Computer response is slightly slower compare to NOD. Such as when openning firefox.

Other than that i am very happy with the beta. Safe and Solid.

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> ... I am wondering if the iswift tech is the same as istream where previously scanned files wont be scanned again if they haven't changed? ( I.e doing a full system scan should improvement the performance ? ) <-QUOTE}iwod,

The answer is yes and no. Yes that the final result is the same, no in that ADS' are not used with iSwift. More like iChecker for NTFS volumes if I understand correctly.

Blue

[.....]

iChecker vs iSwift (http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=5639)

[iwod]

Since i cant post on their forum i hope someone would mention it on their site.

The sound when there Proactive defense is active, could they change it to something more "easy" ......... because it really is anoyning as well as shocking,

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> But i think CPU usage is still rather high.) <-QUOTE}
Probably fixed in later builds, because the memory/CPU usage is very low on my pc, so probably some conflict.
{QUOTE-> Defrag while KAV is on was more like scanning the whole computer ^^". <-QUOTE}
Put the defragger (PerfectDisk?) in the Trusted zone.
{QUOTE-> Since i cant post on their forum i hope someone would mention it on their site.

The sound when there Proactive defense is active, could they change it to something more "easy" ......... because it really is anoyning as well as shocking, <-QUOTE}
I'm curious as to why you think you're banned? Since i would most likely be the the one doing this and i have only banned one, a spammer who managed to post 883 identical posts in 15 minutes and that wasn't you.

The sound will most likely stay, it's personal thing of course, but i don't find it annoying or shocking. However there may be an option to exclude in later builds.:)

[iwod]

oh... i wasn't banned....... just for some reason i could never access the forum.

It is a network issues on my side.

How did you know i was using Perfectdisk :D

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> oh... i wasn't banned....... just for some reason i could never access the forum.

It is a network issues on my side. <-QUOTE}
Ok, thats unfortunate.

{QUOTE-> How did you know i was using Perfectdisk :D <-QUOTE}
Because Perfectdisk is the one that seems to have the most impact on Kaspersky and i use it myself.;) :)

[Tom772]

Hi,

I have read a load of info about Kas and i am so very very impressed with its detection among other things, are there any reason why i should not chose Kas as my main AV next year??

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> Hi,

I have read a load of info about Kas and i am so very very impressed with its detection among other things, are there any reason why i should not chose Kas as my main AV next year?? <-QUOTE}Tom772,

I've not seen one yet. Any incompatibilities that I've uncovered have been dealt with using a custom install, and this really only occurs with competing applications - in my case the KAV Proactive Defense, for example.

I'd naturally recommend a trial since prior versions could be a bit of a resource load on older/leaner machines. The 2006 version is much better in this regard, so don't go hearsay derived from experiences seen with the KAV 5.0 platform. I use two AV's on my complement of machines depending on partition and machine use profile. KAV has been one of them for a few years now and it has served me well.

Blue

[JerryM]

I am currently using BD 9.0, and the license expires in Jan 06.
Is the 06 KISS still in beta? I do not know much about how to handle problems, and am hesitant to try a beta.

I am thinking about trying KIS when it gets out of beta. Is there any reason that I could not install it, and disable my BD, counterspy, and LnS to prevent conflicts? If I did not like KIS has anyone uninstalled it, and how did it go?

Thanks,
Jerry

[dja2k]

The uninstallation of KIS is pretty easy via the add\remove or the uninstall icon that gets placed by defualt in the start menu. There is also an extra removal tool named KAVREMOVE.zip available in the following FTP site located here

ftp://kav2006:Fynb02dbhec60@data.kaspersky.ru/ .

As for your situation in trying it out, There is no reason I can think of that you can't disable both BD and Look'n'Stop and install KIS completely, while keeping CounterSpy active, that won't comflict. I don't know if Kaspersky offers trials on products, but you can wait til the final versions come out in Jan' 06 and find out.

dja2k

[kdcdq]

Hello all,

Well, I installed KIS 2006 beta V6.0.15.225 on two machines a few hours ago and have been "kicking the tires" ever since. I can sum up my feelings about the new beta in one word: WOW!!!! As reported by others in this thread, KIS 2006 is light on resources, the GUI has improved by a jillion per cent, and I really, really, really like it. Before you think that I think the new software is perfect, AntiHacker still needs work and I disabled AntiSpam after it left a bad taste in my mouth.

JerryM,
I also have BD 9.0, and I am happy with it; however, KIS 2006 in my humble (but accurate) opinion, offers more bang for the buck.

I do computer work, mostly security and networking stuff, for a living. I have registered copies of Command AV, KAV Personal AV, TrendMicro IS, BitDefender, ArcaVir 2005, AVG 7.x, Dr. Web, CA's EZAntirus and EZArmor, F-Secure IS, Panda Titanium, and Virus Robot.

KDCDQ, Security Freak

[Edwin024]

well, in any case you are VERY protected...

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> I am currently using BD 9.0, and the license expires in Jan 06.
Is the 06 KISS still in beta? I do not know much about how to handle problems, and am hesitant to try a beta.

I am thinking about trying KIS when it gets out of beta. Is there any reason that I could not install it, and disable my BD, counterspy, and LnS to prevent conflicts? If I did not like KIS has anyone uninstalled it, and how did it go?

Thanks,
Jerry <-QUOTE}
Disabling BD and LnS is not enough Jerry, you have to uninstall them if you want to try the suite. It is scheduled for release in jan/2006, but since an uninstaller (link in dja2k's post, it's called kavremove.zip, instructions inside the zip) has been made you can safely try it now, there will be a new build .226 today or tomorrow. You can also just wait for beta2, which will come within the next month.:)

[JerryM]

Thanks, All for the information.
I do not think I will uninstall BD and LnS at this time, but will wait until Jan and see how things go.

I am not sure if I uninstalled them and did not want to keep KIS I could get replacement programs to install again. I may have the old ones in my download files.

Jerry

[dja2k]

Anyone know when KIS built 6.0.15.226 will be out? Some said yesturday, others said it would be out today, but nothing is out yet.

dja2k

[Peter2150]

Check in the Kaspersky forum. If it's not there yet, then no one knows. They don't announce ahead of time, the just put the builds up when they are ready.

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> Anyone know when KIS built 6.0.15.226 will be out? Some said yesturday, others said it would be out today, but nothing is out yet.

dja2k <-QUOTE}
It has been delayed (should have been out mon/tue), a bug some users have had for a long time was found at the last minute and they decided to halt the release & fix it, Peter2150 is right you have to check to beta forum or be lucky someone posts here.:)

[Edwin024]

The 226 is on the ftp site now, but I can't download it ... again the crap about file not found and such...

[jmschwartz]

{QUOTE-> The 226 is on the ftp site now, but I can't download it ... again the crap about file not found and such... <-QUOTE}

I just finished downloading (14.00 EST) and I'm scanning with KAV 6.x.226 now. Everything seems fine so far. ::)

[Edwin024]

I managed to download it too. It only seem to work with IE. Opera doesn't work on the ftp of Kaspersky. But this latest build is a disappointment. It immediately locked my pc totallly. And the other builds have something which make that loads of sites don't show up anymore.

[SSK_offline]

Opera DOES work on the Kaspersky ftp site. If you search on the Kaspersky forum, there are a number of threads how to make it work...

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> I managed to download it too. It only seem to work with IE. Opera doesn't work on the ftp of Kaspersky. But this latest build is a disappointment. It immediately locked my pc totallly. And the other builds have something which make that loads of sites don't show up anymore. <-QUOTE}
The build has been pulled, there should be a .226+ build coming (can't say exactly when). I had the same freezing issue's btw, but not everyone did.:)

[Cadoul]

Same troubles here.

Sincerly,
Cadoul from France

[Edwin024]

{QUOTE-> Opera DOES work on the Kaspersky ftp site. If you search on the Kaspersky forum, there are a number of threads how to make it work... <-QUOTE}

looked for opera on the site ... found zero

[Edwin024]

Build 227 released...how to download with Opera? Even IE doesn't work now...just a blank screen!

[SSK]

{QUOTE-> looked for opera on the site ... found zero <-QUOTE}
Look closer next time: http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=4923 :)

[Edwin024]

I looked for Opera and got 3 pages filled with thread where none of them said anything about Opera... so thanks for a direct link...

[grnic]

New features list -
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=6379&view=findpost&p=39129

[timmi]

How long left for beta testing? Do you have to uninstall Nod32 before installing KAV 2006? Nod32 expires early 2006 and I am interested in giving this a trial now (because it seems stable). Cheers

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> How long left for beta testing? <-QUOTE}
Until jan/2006.
{QUOTE-> Do you have to uninstall Nod32 before installing KAV 2006? Nod32 expires early 2006 and I am interested in giving this a trial now (because it seems stable). Cheers <-QUOTE}
Yes, you must uninstall Nod32. But, if you wish to be sure to see 2006 as it will be when released (more or less), then wait for the official beta2, all the intermediate builds have "not completely tested" attached to them and they are basicly for those who wish to participate in the development and perhaps have your say with regards to features, GUI options etc.

Of course for some it's just free Kaspersky AV for some months.;) :)

[Edwin024]

The beta license for KIS is now until 3-3-2006...

[snvv]

Hello
The beta version DOES NOT work with Zone Alarm PRO 6.0.667.000.
When I connect to internet the PC reboots and then it is stuck.

I uncecked all the web options in KAV but still nothing.

The old "normal" version works without any problem.

[Edwin024]

Anti-Hacker is the firewall, have you turned that one off?

I don't see a reason to use another firewall at KIS 2006 by the way.

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> Anti-Hacker is the firewall, have you turned that one off?

I don't see a reason to use another firewall at KIS 2006 by the way. <-QUOTE}Since snvv mentioned KAV, I assume they are using KAV and not KIS.

Have you looked at the thread on KAV/KIS 2006 and firewalls here (http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=1711)? Some pertinent suggestions may emerge.

I'm not a ZA user, so I really can't provide concise advice, but my experience is that problems come from either overlapping modules, self-protection components having a conflict, or Proactive Defense measures having conflict. In addition, for the lower level modules, while disabling that module may not resolve a problem, performing a custom install without the suspect module being installed sometimes does resolve the conflict.

Blue

[olcay]

I tried KIS 2006 beta but had problem with my e mule,after running 2-3 hours later my pc was very slow,couldnt move my mouse too.When i rebooted my pc there was no problem it seemed everything was ok!Till emule and KIS 2006 beta run together for a couple hours same problem came back.
So uninstalled it and went back my NOD32.
I am really interested in KIS 2006, hope KL guys solve this problem....

[RejZoR]

olcay, i have the same problem and i'm actively working with KL guys to solve it.

[q1aqza]

I've just been running emule with KIS2006 for just over 36 hours constant and it (so far) seems to be running well. I'll keep an eye on it though.

[olcay]

{QUOTE-> olcay, i have the same problem and i'm actively working with KL guys to solve it. <-QUOTE}

Hi RejZoR,

I read your messages on Kaspersky beta forum;) ,i have also found very interesting trying that running two AV together ( KIS 2006+NOD32).Are you still running them together???

[Graystoke]

I finally decided to give KAV 2006 beta a try. I don't see a View Reports option like in KAV 5. Does KAV 2006 beta have that? If it does, how do I get to it?

[TonyW]

{QUOTE-> I finally decided to give KAV 2006 beta a try. I don't see a View Reports option like in KAV 5. Does KAV 2006 beta have that? If it does, how do I get to it? <-QUOTE}If you are on the main Protection screen, double-click the Statistics section at the bottom, you'll then see a Reports tab where you can look at various reports for the different ares of KAV2006.

[Graystoke]

{QUOTE-> If you are on the main Protection screen, double-click the Statistics section at the bottom, you'll then see a Reports tab where you can look at various reports for the different ares of KAV2006. <-QUOTE}


Thanks TonyW. I would never have thought to double click on that. Too bad KAV didn't make that easier to find.

[Edwin024]

I hope that Kaspersky can get that awefull behaving on websites out of KIS2006. With KIS installed I get loads of sites that don't work. Turn of KIS and everything is good again, so it must something that KIS is doing. Back to NOD32 and LnS for the time being :(

[DonKid]

{QUOTE-> Hi RejZoR,

I read your messages on Kaspersky beta forum;) ,i have also found very interesting trying that running two AV together ( KIS 2006+NOD32).Are you still running them together??? <-QUOTE}

I am.

So far, so good.

[olcay]

{QUOTE-> I am.

So far, so good. <-QUOTE}

I am curious, what is your configuration? All options are enabled?

[DonKid]

No,
When I´m testing it, I let NOD32 only to update itself and run a scan every week.I have disabled the others modules.But I try the other way too and no problem.
It is just a test.
I´m a NOD32 user and I´m just a beta tester of KIS 2006.It will be an excellent product.
When final version is out, I still will be a NOD32 user, since my license expires later. I didn´t decide what I´m going to do yet.

Best Regards,

DonKid.

[dja2k]

Built 230 out though seems to have a problem downloading updates, might be a network problem on the server side, don't know yet.

dja2k

[Graystoke]

Well I gave it a try, but I had to remove KAV 2006 beta. It slowed my browsing too noticably for me. I had the same problem with KAV 5. This machine is no slouch and I'm on cable. I guess my computer is just one of the few that KAV doesn't like.

[Blackcat]

{QUOTE-> Well I gave it a try, but I had to remove KAV 2006 beta. It slowed my browsing too noticably for me. <-QUOTE}
Try it without the webscanner installed ;)

I have used it as a straight AV, without the ProActive Defense or the WebScanner modules active, and have come across very few problems.

[dja2k]

Don't know if its the new built 230 or if its me, but I just switched from DSL Advertised 3.0 MBPS (actual 2.3) down to a Cable connection with Advertised 5.0 MBPS (actual 4.6) and with KIS 2006 on, my cable connection goes down to about 2.2 MBPS. Yet when I turn off KIS, actual speed comes back to normal.

dja2k

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> Don't know if its the new built 230 or if its me, but I just switched from DSL Advertised 3.0 MBPS (actual 2.3) down to a Cable connection with Advertised 5.0 MBPS (actual 4.6) and with KIS 2006 on, my cable connection goes down to about 2.2 MBPS. Yet when I turn off KIS, actual speed comes back to normal. <-QUOTE}dja2k,

I haven't performed any detailed speed tests with build 230 as yet, but your observations are consistent with some of my earlier tests described here (http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=6347&hl=) and here (http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=5309&hl=). For top speed my recommendation remains that one should disabled the Web AntiVirus module and the Anti-Phishing and Anti-Banner components of the Anti-Spy module.

In a quick test, what I currently see is ~ 6.0 Mbps down/340 kpbs up for either KIS totally disabled or Web Anti-Virus and Anti-Phishing/Anti-Banner disabled and ~ 4.2-4.4 Mbps down /334 kbps up for either all or any of these particular modules enabled. I haven't tried all permutations, but the basic trends seen previously do still seem to apply.

The actual numbers seen will be dependent on machine speed and maximum download characteristics of your connection. For example, when net traffic is congested and average maximum net speeds are hovering at 3.5-4.0 Mbps down or below for me, I will see no apparent losses in speed as modules are switched in and out of KIS (i.e. all tests clock in at 3.5-4.0 Mbps down). Physically, this makes perfect sense and reflects the fact that KIS presents a throughput bottleneck with my machine at about 4.2-4.4 Mbps. The throughput bottleneck will naturally be machine/configuration dependent. These numbers quoted above reflect KIS 2006-230/BOClean/AppDefend-RegDefend as the active security monitoring package.

Blue

[Oldjim]

{QUOTE-> Built 230 out though seems to have a problem downloading updates, might be a network problem on the server side, don't know yet.

dja2k <-QUOTE}
If you haven't seen the solution yet please go to this link kis forum (http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=6585)

[q1aqza]

Apologies if this is answered somewhere in this thread (its got a bit long now). Where can I download build 230? The link in the first post of this thread seems to be still the same version as released on 1 Nov?

[Blackcat]

{QUOTE-> Apologies if this is answered somewhere in this thread (its got a bit long now). Where can I download build 230? <-QUOTE}

ftp://kav2006:Fynb02dbhec60@data.kaspersky.ru/

[q1aqza]

Thanks a lot Blackcat

[Cadoul]

A new beta version is available kav 6.0.16.232

[Mannaggia]

{QUOTE-> Try it without the webscanner installed ;)

I have used it as a straight AV, without the ProActive Defense or the WebScanner modules active, and have come across very few problems. <-QUOTE}


Hi Blackcat. When you say webscanner, do you mean the HTTP scanner? KAV 2006 beta slowed my computer down also. Just wanted to make sure. I'd like to give it another try if disabling the HTTP scanner will speed things up.

Also, by disabling ProActive Defence and the HTTP scanner, will that make KAV less effective in protecting my computer?

[Blackcat]

{QUOTE-> Hi Blackcat. When you say webscanner, do you mean the HTTP scanner? <-QUOTE}
Yes.
{QUOTE-> KAV 2006 beta slowed my computer down also. Just wanted to make sure. I'd like to give it another try if disabling the HTTP scanner will speed things up.Also, by disabling ProActive Defence and the HTTP scanner, will that make KAV less effective in protecting my computer? <-QUOTE}
It will give less protection but you will have a more stable and faster product, IME. Running KAV 2006 beta as just the AV means I have run into very few problems compared to a complete install.

This is not surprising, since the HTTP scanner and the Application Guards are new features which need the most work on in the beta.

[Mannaggia]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mannaggia
Hi Blackcat. When you say webscanner, do you mean the HTTP scanner?

Yes.

{QUOTE->
It will give less protection but you will have a more stable and faster product, IME. Running KAV 2006 beta as just the AV means I have run into very few problems compared to a complete install.

This is not surprising, since the HTTP scanner and the Application Guards are new features which need the most work on in the beta. <-QUOTE}


Thanks Blackcat. Hopefully KL will have everything sorted out by the time KAV 2006 final comes out.

[Mannaggia]

Ok, I just installed KAV 2006 beta again. I have a couple of questions.

1. In Update>Settings, the Update Program Modules is not checked by default. Is it a good idea to check that, or leave as is?

2. In Scan Critical Areas>Customize>General>File Types, the default is Programs and Documents (by content). Should I change this to All?

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> Ok, I just installed KAV 2006 beta again. I have a couple of questions.

1. In Update>Settings, the Update Program Modules is not checked by default. Is it a good idea to check that, or leave as is?

2. In Scan Critical Areas>Customize>General>File Types, the default is Programs and Documents (by content). Should I change this to All? <-QUOTE}
Hi

I can tell you what i do:

1. It's not enabled default in the beta bulds because it's not used so far and can lead to unstability, i also always uncheck the second choice (network attacks) too and will continue to do so untill we're nearer to the release date for the same reasons.

2. No, then you might as well use the "Scan my computer" for this.:)

[Mannaggia]

{QUOTE-> Hi

I can tell you what i do:

1. It's not enabled default in the beta bulds because it's not used so far and can lead to unstability, i also always uncheck the second choice (network attacks) too and will continue to do so untill we're nearer to the release date for the same reasons.

2. No, then you might as well use the "Scan my computer" for this.:) <-QUOTE}


Thank you Don. :)

[dja2k]

I had to go back to KAV 5 because when I would switch to the beta I would get a blue screen at windows startup. Well, with that, does anyone know what .sys files that KAV or KIS 2006 uses so I can go and delete them manually incase some didn't get uninstalled witht the KIS\KAV uninstaller and removal utility.

dja2k

[Blackcat]

{QUOTE-> Well, with that, does anyone know what .sys files that KAV or KIS 2006 uses so I can go and delete them manually incase some didn't get uninstalled witht the KIS\KAV uninstaller and removal utility. <-QUOTE}
IME, the uninstaller together with the specific removal utility, when used in Safe Mode, do an excellent job in removing the necessary files. So you should not have any problems with installing KAV 5 again.

If you do, rather than manually editing the registry, try a specific cleaner, such as RegSupreme.

[dja2k]

Well I am using the newest built 6.0.0.239 of KIS and its working great. I have not noticed any internet speed slowdowns with this version. My speed test keeps giving me constant results. I installed it completely without the antispam. Don't know if its me , but the proactive guard is working more now cause the self protection is blocking some stuff now at windows startup. Does anyone know if the Anti-Spy works with Firefox, cause if it doesn't, so I can remove it? Also if I use SNS 2.0, ProcessGUard, and RegDefend, using the KIS proactive protection is useless and overlapping right?

dja2k

[kavfan]

quick query KAV 2006 is beta until march 2006 as well?
do I have to uninstall nod32?

[kavfan]

...sorry and what is the beta serial?

[kalpik]

KAV2006

B2B66782-6AC0-4533-88F4-060BB929C9318


KIS2006

995DC2D2-BD00-41EE-9803-B736BF9B311A6

[kavfan]

cheers kalpik but do you know if i have to uninstall nod32?

I have noticed the seperate remover on the ftp site? any instructions on how to use it?

[kalpik]

Yes its always better if u uninstall Nod32 before installing KAV/KIS. The remover on their FTP site is in case the bundled installer (via add remove programs) fails for some reason, or if u are having difficulties un-installing KAV/KIS. Never failed on me though!

By the way, there's a new build already! Build 242 on the FTP server.

Cheers!

[kavfan]

great! thanks for the lightning response. all the best! i'll install kav 06 now

[kalpik]

Do keep us informed about how you go!

[kalpik]

Oh by the way, do perform a full system scan after you install it. After the full scan, KAV will just fly! ;)

[dja2k]

I am getting these process blocked warnings that say they are part of the self protection though I haven't installed the proactive modules, anyone seen this happening and know why? I have the latest beta built 242.

dja2k

[SSK]

Self-protection is what it says: the program is protecting itself against "attacks" from other programs. This has nothing to do with the other protection services :)

[kavfan]

kav2006 so far geat!

another question under update if updating program modules is checked will this keep me up to the latest beta build? or do we have to download and reinstall the latest build each time?

[TonyW]

At the moment, you have to uninstall one build and then install the new one. Personally, I'm not testing every new build as only a day goes by when a new build is released, which gives hardly time to test one.

[kalpik]

No. The Update Program Modules is not operational yet. Better uncheck it!

[kavfan]

thanks guys! very impressed so far, very light.

can i disable regdefend as proactive defence seems to be protecting registry?

my nod32 licence expires in january, i don't think i will be renewing it. i am gonna purchase kav2006 instead.

[Cscampxp]

My Kis beta version is using up too much cpu! i just noticed it this morning...i have noticed my laptop running slow in the last 3 days and i checked cpu usage and its a going from 90-100. Could the recent updates be the cause of this. If it keeps going like this i have no choice but to uninstall the beta version.

So yeah cpu usage is till a problem with KIS 2006!

[Eliot]

Is everyone's KAV 2006 beta expiring in 20 days? ???

[Cscampxp]

i think so! well mine also expires in 20 days!

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> Is everyone's KAV 2006 beta expiring in 20 days? ??? <-QUOTE}
No, uninstall the version you have installed, download the latest and use this betakey for Kav:

B2B66782-6AC0-4533-88F4-060BB929C9318

And this for Kis:

995DC2D2-BD00-41EE-9803-B736BF9B311A6. Good currently until 3-3-2006.

[Eliot]

Thank you Don. :D

[Eliot]

I can't figure out how to change the key. It tells me the new one is not valid b/c it does not have KAV labs digital signature or something. :(

[kavfan]

did you select the beta version?

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> I can't figure out how to change the key. It tells me the new one is not valid b/c it does not have KAV labs digital signature or something. :( <-QUOTE}
You have to uninstall it and download the latest version .243:here (ftp://kav2006:Fynb02dbhec60@data.kaspersky.ru/) during the install it will ask for the key (choose the first option "commercial" i think it is).

You should download the Kav/Kis remove too, just in case, not that i have needed it, but nice to have.

[Eliot]

My mistake, I was using the link on the front page of this thread, lol. :o I have it working just fine now.

Thanks again Don. :D

[iwod]

I find the latest build uses even less resources then the public beta. ( Memory wise )
And generally a little bit smoother. ( AV online. I turned all other component. )

Quick Update. By Memory i mean Virtual Size, which seems to build up over time.

[Eliot]

The newer one locks my pc up after a while. :'( I am gonig to try to remove it, run the removal tool and reinstall it. *puppy*

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> The newer one locks my pc up after a while. :'( I am gonig to try to remove it, run the removal tool and reinstall it. *puppy* <-QUOTE}
If the reinstall doesn't help, then try to delete (or rename) the following file - %WINDOWS%\system32\drivers\klop.sys and reboot.:)

[.....]

I found build 241 to work best on my computer. Build 242/243 didn't have any real problems as such, just ran slower for some reason (same settings and modules installed/ enabled)

[Eliot]

{QUOTE-> If the reinstall doesn't help, then try to delete (or rename) the following file - %WINDOWS%\system32\drivers\klop.sys and reboot.:) <-QUOTE}

Its working great after reinstall. ;D

[devnull]

anyone got a Kasperky 2006 beta crack\serial that works please email me Edit: email removed - CrazyM - i really need one please.

[CrazyM]

Beta keys are a few posts above this one.
If you are looking for a serial/crack for the regular version, you have come to the wrong place.

Regards,

CrazyM

[devnull]

Can anyone get me a kasperky 2006 beta key thanks

[kalpik]

KAV 2006 - 2 desktop
187272B5-62F6-4CFF-BE82-D1B1FFD0A32E7

KIS 2006 - 2 desktop
39517016-F10D-4101-8D51-FC41CAE0F7F9C

=====================================

KAV2006
B2B66782-6AC0-4533-88F4-060BB929C9318


KIS2006
995DC2D2-BD00-41EE-9803-B736BF9B311A6

KAV for WkS 6.0
2F5DF679-4090-480B-87DA-332B13D61FBEB

KAV for FS 6.0
0CC74976-DE77-40CE-92CC-9BEF618773101

[q1aqza]

{QUOTE-> My Kis beta version is using up too much cpu! i just noticed it this morning...i have noticed my laptop running slow in the last 3 days and i checked cpu usage and its a going from 90-100. Could the recent updates be the cause of this. If it keeps going like this i have no choice but to uninstall the beta version.

So yeah cpu usage is till a problem with KIS 2006! <-QUOTE}

I'm finding the same with KIS2006 but not with KAV2006. When it does happen it seems random and doesn't always happen on every use of the PC.

I can't wait until it is all sorted out and released though ;)

[kalpik]

Already fixed an recent builds! Try build 247. By the way, beta2 will be out in about 7 days!

[Oldjim]

Beta 2 is now out

[.....]

{QUOTE-> Beta 2 is now out <-QUOTE}
Naa its not. A CANDIDATE for BETA2 is though (ie if no major bugs are found in this build it will be released as BETA 2 at a later stage).

[fatty]

hey guys ... i have a problem with my kis 2006
since yesterday it works propperly but now i can't upgrade virusdatabase
it says "file downloaded error: file not found"
whats happend, is that server problems or something.
today i reinstaled my OS and it is same as before ... still doesn't work
still no response, still doesn't want to upgrade

do you know something about that ?

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> hey guys ... i have a problem with my kis 2006
since yesterday it works propperly but now i can't upgrade virusdatabase
it says "file downloaded error: file not found"
whats happend, is that server problems or something.
today i reinstaled my OS and it is same as before ... still doesn't work
still no response, still doesn't want to upgrade

do you know something about that ? <-QUOTE}
Download a fresh copy of the latest build 251 and run KisKavRemove (instructions on use inside the zip):ftp://kav2006:Fynb02dbhec60@data.kaspersky.ru/.:)