Where to manually download NOD32 virus definition file?

[xp_1839]

Can't find this anywhere at NOD32 web site?
I'm a new user from previous Symantec Antivirus.

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[Blackspear]

Hi xp_1839, welcome to Wilders.

{QUOTE-> Can't find this anywhere at NOD32 web site? <-QUOTE}You can't.

You can however check to see if Nod32 is up-to-date by clicking on "Update now".

Cheers ;D

[xp_1839]

Manual Updating......that's I know.

What about a stand-alone pc without internet connection? How to update the definition file?

[Anubis Prime]

I don't think it's possible. Though if it's a standalone computer, there is very little chance (outside of putting a floppy disk in that contains one of those very old Word macroviruses) you would have to worry about viruses to begin with. If you maybe plugged it into a phone jack once or twice a month to update NOD32 that should suffice--and if you are not at all on the internet or getting email, you've pretty much eliminated todays major vectors for infection.

:)

--Dom

[MangAnimE]

Needing an Internet connection to update is stupid. I have a PC set up for gaming only, but then I take the risk of being infected by others when connecting to their machines during LAN gaming (most of them use their gaming PC on the Internet also).

[webyourbusiness]

if you buy a multi-pack - you'll get the admin version - this version allows you to create "mirror files" - which can be deployed to a CD, Floppy or USB thumb device - updates can then be done from the control center and selecting the drive with the nod_upd folder copied from the mirror - ergo - manual updates ARE possible, but only for those that have the multi-pack and the administrator version of NOD32 installed on at least ONE machine.

[anotherjack]

{QUOTE-> Needing an Internet connection to update is stupid. I have a PC set up for gaming only, but then I take the risk of being infected by others when connecting to their machines during LAN gaming (most of them use their gaming PC on the Internet also). <-QUOTE}

OK, let's look at this:

Thread title - "Where to manually download..."
You statement - "Needing an Internet connection to update is stupid."

I sense a discrepancy here. :D

If there was indeed a way to manually download a set of defs, you would, by definition, have to connect to the 'net to do so, and NOD could update via its own built in mechanism. Problem solved.

My €0.0165891 worth.

[alglove]

Yes, you would need to connect to the 'net, but that does not mean it has to be with the same computer. The updates could be downloaded on one computer, then transfered over to the other computer some other way (internal network, floppy disk, CD-R, etc.).

It could be a kid's computer upstairs, but it could also be a company's internal server. The company's internal server could be covered by the Admin version, as webyourbusiness states, but most people would not get this just to cover the kid's computer.

[webyourbusiness]

{QUOTE-> OK, let's look at this:

Thread title - "Where to manually download..."
You statement - "Needing an Internet connection to update is stupid."

I sense a discrepancy here. :D

If there was indeed a way to manually download a set of defs, you would, by definition, have to connect to the 'net to do so, and NOD could update via its own built in mechanism. Problem solved.

My €0.0165891 worth. <-QUOTE}


What I described is a way to MANUALLY update a machine from another machine which has download facilities. The OP actually stated they wanted a manual download to a machine without internet - what I outline was a way to use the connection on one machine, via the admin version to update another machine - transport of the files is via some storage device - that seems to be exactly what the OP was after. If you want a way to update some remote computer without using the internet at ANY point - good luck developing your telepathy skills...

So what if the update of the remote computer is MANUAL.

[Blackspear]

Ladies and Gentlemen, let's keep everything cool and calm.

The question has been answered; with a single version of Nod32 this is not possible, with the Admin version it is indeed possible.

Blackspear.

[xp_1839]

Mine is the Admin version with "Mirror" under the Update section.
Struggling to configure the mirror un-successful after an hour.
Mirror status shows "Not Configured" though automatic update is working fine!

Anyone kind enough to show step by step instruction to mirror setup?
Thank.

[flyrfan111]

On the NOD32 download page, click on the manual link for whichever version you have Win98 or NT/XP. It's .pdf so I can't post a link. Best I can do is,
http://www.nod32.com/download/download.htm

[Marcos]

Basicly, you need to do the following:
1. enable mirrror
2. specify the path to store mirrored files
3. if you want to create mirrored files for component updates, select the desired components (with nothing select, only virus signatures will be mirrored)
4. if you want to update via HTTP instead of Windows shares, enable this option

How to set up client workstations:
When updating through Windows shares when either the server or a client is running NT-based Windows and is not being a member of a domain, you'll need to specify a correct login (e.g. domain\username), or you can set NOD32 to connect to the update server as the currently logged user. It's not recommended to use mapped drives but full unc paths (e.g. \\server\nod32upd)

When updating via HTTP, use the url pointing to the mirror followed by the port number (8081 by default) (e.g. http:\\server:8081).

[xp_1839]

There is no manual for Windows 2003/XP 64-BIT - administrator v.2.51.8!

[xp_1839]

I encountered this error when click on "Setup" in Update ...Mirror:

No information about update is available. Prior to configure mirror, please connect at least once to update server. To do so, click on Update in the Update module.

[YeOldeStonecat]

{QUOTE-> OK, let's look at this:

Thread title - "Where to manually download..."
You statement - "Needing an Internet connection to update is stupid."

I sense a discrepancy here. :D

If there was indeed a way to manually download a set of defs, you would, by definition, have to connect to the 'net to do so, and NOD could update via its own built in mechanism. Problem solved.

My €0.0165891 worth. <-QUOTE}

I didn't detect a discrepancy there, it was clear. In some situations, there are computers which may need antivirus protection, but do not have an internet connection. Be they stand alone, or networked...just internet disabled, it's nice to be able to update their definitions once in a while. I myself have had quite a few clients in the past with that type of clumsy setup.

With some AV programs, such as symantec, you can download DAT files onto a floppy or thumb drive, and update those workstations manually, easily. However with NOD, for their stand alone product, it can't be done. When I found that out I was disappointed, but luckily these days I don't have those types of clients anymore, so it's a non-issue for me. But for some people, I'm sure there are some with this situation, and in those cases, I guess NOD32 isn't for them.

I don't know the logic of why they chose not to make DAT files available for download. ???

[webyourbusiness]

YeOld,

I too don't see how the NOD32 method is different EXCEPT that the machine doing the downloading of the signature files just runs the admin version instead of the regular version.

1 person running the admin version can become the update source for MANY un-wired NOD32 workstations.

The only difference is that updates MUST be originally downloaded by an admin version, rather than a "regular" version of NOD32.

{QUOTE->
I don't know the logic of why they chose not to make DAT files available for download.
<-QUOTE}

You don't? Think about it.. where is the license validation done?

[YeOldeStonecat]

He's talking about stand alone versions here. Other AV programs don't require the enterprise package to do this, and most have an easy DAT .exe updater.

And there are other methods of licensing, successfully implemented by other AV companies.

Regardless, it's a non-issue for me, I dont' have this type of client anymore. But I have had others ask me how to update some stand alone clients....and it sucks having to spell out "It won't work unless you get the EE".

I was just saying I understand where he's coming from, been there, done that, not worth another 30 seconds of my time though.

[hadi]

{QUOTE-> Can't find this anywhere at NOD32 web site?
I'm a new user from previous Symantec Antivirus.

??? ??? ??? ??? ??? <-QUOTE}
{QUOTE-> What I described is a way to MANUALLY update a machine from another machine which has download facilities. The OP actually stated they wanted a manual download to a machine without internet - what I outline was a way to use the connection on one machine, via the admin version to update another machine - transport of the files is via some storage device - that seems to be exactly what the OP was after. If you want a way to update some remote computer without using the internet at ANY point - good luck developing your telepathy skills...

So what if the update of the remote computer is MANUAL <-QUOTE}
{QUOTE-> I didn't detect a discrepancy there, it was clear. In some situations, there are computers which may need antivirus protection, but do not have an internet connection. Be they stand alone, or networked...just internet disabled, it's nice to be able to update their definitions once in a while. I myself have had quite a few clients in the past with that type of clumsy setup.

With some AV programs, such as symantec, you can download DAT files onto a floppy or thumb drive, and update those workstations manually, easily. However with NOD, for their stand alone product, it can't be done. When I found that out I was disappointed, but luckily these days I don't have those types of clients anymore, so it's a non-issue for me. But for some people, I'm sure there are some with this situation, and in those cases, I guess NOD32 isn't for them.

I don't know the logic of why they chose not to make DAT files available for download. <-QUOTE}
Hi
It is very very easy to update another stand alone computer manually even if you dont have admin version of NOD. try to extract the idea from this thread. read all replies carefuly and slowly, it is there very clear( I don't think it is wise to say more)
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=70140&highlight=BSFS

[windstrings]

Why don't you not run AV if your not on the internet?
If folks could download definitions, it would be much easier to pirate?

NOD is one program I don't mind paying for. Its 1/3 the price for 3 times the speed and protection than most of its competitors.

Here is a free isp.. if you don't mind dealing with offers..personally I hate them..

***the next and best option is to use http://www.budgetdialup.com/html/prod.htm

I personally use them as a backup for traveling.. they even have a 1 800 #... 5.95 will give you 10 hours a year, or 9.95 for 20 hours a year.
Or if you need a true isp.. its one of the cheapest around... 9.95 for 120 hours a month... thats average of 4 hours a day.
you dont' have to use their software, but it is actually excellent if you do.. it will help you stay current of local #'s if your traveling.

if you have a phone line around, you can always logon just long enough to update... What I dont understand is if there were manual download avaliable, you would have to download them too.. so whats the difference?.. you still need online, or you have to go to alot of trouble to get it from somewhere else and transport it........ 5.95 will do the trick for a whole year!...

I todays modern world,there is no reason not to have internet.... there is a wealth of info and updates out there.

Hope this helps!

[xp_1839]

OK, I'm a system builder, some customers have cable, some ADSL, some dial-up and some totally no internet access at all.....Now you know why I need the manual download option.....Hate to go back to Symantec as it is bloated AV!

[alglove]

If you are a system builder, could you get one copy of the Enterprise Edition for your main computer? You could use that to set up a mirror. You could burn the contents of that mirror to a CD or USB keydrive, take it over to the client's site, and then update it.

As far as I can tell, you do not need the Enterprise Edition over on the client's side. Instead, go into Update --> Setup --> Servers and make the update location "drive_letter:\nod_upd\". It may not be ideal that you have to pay the extra money for an enterprise license up front, but it may be a viable way of producing manual updates.

By the way, I do not have the licensing terms in front of me. If this does run afoul of licensing terms, feel free to edit this post.

[webyourbusiness]

I don't even think you need enterprise - you just need the administrator version, which anyone purchasing more than one license at the same time can get to my knowledge.

[alglove]

{QUOTE-> I don't even think you need enterprise - you just need the administrator version, which anyone purchasing more than one license at the same time can get to my knowledge. <-QUOTE}
Duh, that's right. I just got those two terms mixed up. Enterprise includes the Remote Administrator. Administrator (not Remote) is what includes the mirrors. That's why you are the reseller, and I am not! :P

[webyourbusiness]

I'm still learning day-by-day though Algove! ;)

[hadi]

Administrator version is sufficient but not really necessary. The only difference is that you need to transfere two files instead of one when standard version is used..

[dozorca]

How are people/companies supposed to evaluate NOD32 in a QA lab environment, which usually is not connected to the internet, and be able to update the pattern files?

This is a big minus for NOD32 from the business side of things.

[Marcos]

You can ask the sales department of your local distributor to provide you with an evaluation user/pass for NOD32 administrator version.

[dozorca]

{QUOTE-> You can ask the sales department of your local distributor to provide you with an evaluation user/pass for NOD32 administrator version. <-QUOTE}

How does the administrator version get the latest pattern file in a lab that is not connected to the internet, as most QA labs are not.
Thanks,

[cupez80]

well... maybe eset should think about .zip/.exe file definition. cause its important to people who dont have internet connection at home so they can download definition manually from internet cafe or somewhere else. :D about piracy i think eset could think another way to prevent it maybe change from username/password with license key file that includes expired date inside it.

[zashita]

{QUOTE-> How does the administrator version get the latest pattern file in a lab that is not connected to the internet, as most QA labs are not.
Thanks, <-QUOTE}
The administrator version of Nod32 can create an update mirror AND it is possible to create a CD or USB key with the update files. It is a feature of the Administrator Version of NOD32

[NOD32 user]

{QUOTE-> I encountered this error when click on "Setup" in Update ...Mirror:

No information about update is available. Prior to configure mirror, please connect at least once to update server. To do so, click on Update in the Update module. <-QUOTE}Basically, after installing the admin version of NOD32 you will need to perform an update first (by manually clicking the update button if you don't want to wait) before you can configure the mirror. After that you should be able to go right ahead as Marcos described earlier.
HTH. Let us know if you come across anything else you would like a hand with. :)

[vsr_kmb]

I am using NOD32 in to my Laptop. Now I am working in the site where I am unable to connect my laptop to the internet and no computers having NOD32 installed. I was searching on the internet for NOD32 intelligent update. I am unable to find. Where can I find the intelligent update for NOD32?. I have internet in my office PC.

[Ga1tar]

{QUOTE-> I am using NOD32 in to my Laptop. Now I am working in the site where I am unable to connect my laptop to the internet and no computers having NOD32 installed. I was searching on the internet for NOD32 intelligent update. I am unable to find. Where can I find the intelligent update for NOD32?. I have internet in my office PC. <-QUOTE}

Get yourself a wireless card for the laptop, as without one your chance of performing any updates are slim indeed.

[vsr_kmb]

Hai,
Getting a wireless card is not a problem. My laptop is having wireless lan already. I was trying to connect my laptop with bluetooth, eventhen due to the restrictions it is asking for the administrator access.
At last I have asked the help from the forum members.
When I at home I used to run NOD32 UPDATEGENERATOR for my desktop and the update on my laptop.
Shall I ask the forum members to run the NOD32 UPDATEGENERATOR and post the files on the net?.

Thanks

[mrtwolman]

{QUOTE-> Hai,
Getting a wireless card is not a problem. My laptop is having wireless lan already. I was trying to connect my laptop with bluetooth, eventhen due to the restrictions it is asking for the administrator access.
At last I have asked the help from the forum members.
When I at home I used to run NOD32 UPDATEGENERATOR for my desktop and the update on my laptop.
Shall I ask the forum members to run the NOD32 UPDATEGENERATOR and post the files on the net?.

Thanks <-QUOTE}

Unforunatelly, NOD32 UPDATEGENERATOR is in my opinion a tool designed almost solely for the purpose of copyright violation.

[NOD32 user]

{QUOTE-> Get yourself a wireless card for the laptop, as without one your chance of performing any updates are slim indeed. <-QUOTE}And without any connectivity, your chances of getting infected are even lower than that :)

[Red Dawn]

{QUOTE-> Why don't you not run AV if your not on the internet?
If folks could download definitions, it would be much easier to pirate? <-QUOTE}

your kidding right? NOD is, like virtually all other software, pirated on P2P networks and the like. IN this day and age if your the type that wants illegal software, you can find it on the net, including NOD. That is something that will be around all the time, and companies can't only worry about that, or they will go out of business really quick. I bought NOD because after testing out all the others, it was the best for me, but I too find myself wondering why def files aren't allowed to update different setups. You could find yourself with a new virus/worm/whatever, that causes problems on one machine, you disable net access and from another machine, you want to download the definition file that could fix it, but you can't. There are many reasons why it would be a nice added feature for Eset to do, but they choose not to, so be it. Symantec is always an option for those users.

[ferika]

Hm!
I have used the Antivir GData. One of the best - but without manuell update, so i use them no more! I need the manuell update, because in my domicile in Wienna i do not have internet, in my company i have them, but here in cannot install any version of NOD, because this firma have about 200 computers in the network and they security policies about install of not oficially alowed software are strong! So - how to solve this problem?

By Kaspersky can i download the virus signatures separately, so this is in the moment the second soft on my comp. NOD was the best against unknown malware, so i bought them. But - a separately download of updates and signatures i need too.

[Elie]

Hey XP_1839:
To update a nod32 with no internet connection, u have to get from an already updated nod32 some files. Go to program files\eset\nod32\updfiles.
All files in that directory are the files needed and updated when u do the auto update in nod32.
This should solve ur problem.

[aero_plane]

How to update NOD32 manually, because I don't have any internet connection?

Thank's!

[Blackspear]

Hi aero_plane, welcome to Wilders.

{QUOTE-> How to update NOD32 manually, because I don't have any internet connection? <-QUOTE}You will find the answer by reading this thread.

Cheers ;D

[JinxGenius]

{QUOTE-> Hey XP_1839:
To update a nod32 with no internet connection, u have to get from an already updated nod32 some files. Go to program files\eset\nod32\updfiles.
All files in that directory are the files needed and updated when u do the auto update in nod32.
This should solve ur problem. <-QUOTE}

Elie is right, all you need is copy those files and put them to A:\nod_upd or D:\nod_upd, it's all the defination and updates need for stand alone update without any need of internet connection, the point now is: who is gonna provide these files, which is the whole meaning and the question of this thread, not "you can update NOD offline or not".

[Banger696]

What a great thread. Really interesting discussion here. I think ESET should provide manual definitions like they do the paid software, behind a User Name and password system. If all that is needed is the Update Folder files then so be it. Why is this not an option if you can download the paid for version behind the User Name Password system ? Thats all that protects automatic updates too. ::)

[ronjor]

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