PC-cillin Internet Security 2006(screenshots)

[Sher]

Below are some screenshots from the Beta:

http://www.sicurezzainrete.com/images/Pc-Cillin-2006-Main-Gui.gif http://www.sicurezzainrete.com/images/Pc-Cillin-2006-Antivirus-Gui.gif

[Sher]

Trend Micro's "PC-cillin Internet Security" is one of the best anti-virus programs right now alongwith Kaspersky and NOD32! I've been using it for eight months now, and haven't had a single virus since!

The built-in spyware protection is able to detect and remove the "CoolWebSearch" trojan even!

That's amazing!

:)

[Firecat]

Wow....It looks so cool! :)

[Blackcat]

Resource/memory usage?

[RejZoR]

{QUOTE-> Trend Micro's "PC-cillin Internet Security" is one of the best anti-virus programs right now alongwith Kaspersky and NOD32! I've been using it for eight months now, and haven't had a single virus since!

The built-in spyware protection is able to detect and remove the "CoolWebSearch" trojan even!

That's amazing!

:) <-QUOTE}

Thats because Trend Micro now owns the CWShreder...

[Graystoke]

I renewed my TMIS 2005 last month, and just went back to using it a few days ago. Just after I renewed, I found out that TMIS is coming out in November. I called TM's tech support to find out if I will be able to upgrade to TMIS 2006 since I just renewed my TMIS 2005 license. He assured me that I will be able to upgrade. All I had to do is uninstall TMIS 2005 and install TMIS 2006 using my license key. He said if I had any problems to give them a call. That's what I call good service. ;D From what I see in Sher's screenshots, I'm looking forward to November. :)

[Sher]

{QUOTE-> Resource/memory usage? <-QUOTE}

From what I've heard from some tester - "lower" than its predecessor! Program installation and virus scanning have improved as well! That's good news!

:)

[Sher]

Graystoke:

Don't worry, mate... you'll be able to use the newer version with the same serial number that you're using currently.

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> I renewed my TMIS 2005 last month, and just went back to using it a few days ago. Just after I renewed, I found out that TMIS is coming out in November. I called TM's tech support to find out if I will be able to upgrade to TMIS 2006 since I just renewed my TMIS 2005 license. He assured me that I will be able to upgrade. All I had to do is uninstall TMIS 2005 and install TMIS 2006 using my license key. He said if I had any problems to give them a call. That's what I call good service. ;D From what I see in Sher's screenshots, I'm looking forward to November. :) <-QUOTE}
Didnt I say that current PCC 2005 users will recieve a free upgrade to TMIS 2006? ;D

[Graystoke]

{QUOTE-> Graystoke:

Don't worry, mate... you'll be able to use the newer version with the same serial number that you're using currently. <-QUOTE}

No worries any more. ;D ;D Thanks Sher. ;D



{QUOTE-> Didnt I say that current PCC 2005 users will recieve a free upgrade to TMIS 2006? <-QUOTE}


I guess I'm going to have to start being more trusting. ;) ;D


Have A Great Day. ;D ;D

Graystoke.

[Mr2cents]

I may try tmis 2006 when it comes out on october 31. That is, if it's "windowsMe" compatible. One website states that it's compatible with 98, me, 2000, and xp. Another site says only windows 2000 and xp. ::)

I like "windowsMe". However, it may be time to upgrade to xp. I notice a lot of software is only compatible with 2000 and xp now.

[maddawgz]

looks good!!! Think ill try it.. ive missed it but i kinda like mcafee now 2. :o :o :o

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> I may try tmis 2006 when it comes out on october 31. That is, if it's "windowsMe" compatible. One website states that it's compatible with 98, me, 2000, and xp. Another site says only windows 2000 and xp. ::)

I like "windowsMe". However, it may be time to upgrade to xp. I notice a lot of software is only compatible with 2000 and xp now. <-QUOTE}
I too liked Windows Me a lot, but it kinda makes sense.....newer technology just does not work as well on Windows 98/Me as compared to Windows 2000/XP.

And since XP is increasingly gaining popularity among users, it would make financial sense of companies to not support Win98/Me anymore (especially since MS no longer actively supports them).

I tried to run Doom 3 on Windows Me - I succeeded, but the textures looked VERY low-resolution. Didn't look as good as it was supposed to. Now I use Windows XP, and am VERY satisfied with it. :)

Back to the topic, I personally think that Win98 support may be dropped, but Windows Me, and maybe Windows 98SE support will remain. But this may be the very last version of TMIS to support Win98/Me, because MS totally discontinues support for Win98/Me in 2006.....

[RejZoR]

If it's says it's compatible with Windows 98 than it's also compatible with Windows Me. Same arhitecture, just enhanced interface and other things.
Core is still good old Win9x.

[Sher]

The release date isn't confirmed yet... some are saying on Nov Ist(Amazon)... others are saying in first week of Nov.

[Murtadh]

Is there any news about the price ??

[Sher]

45.xx $.

[ThunderingTimmy]

Hopefully that is just a bad quality screenshot, because frankly I think that's kind of ugly.

[hollywoodpc]

Alot of talk about wanting this . Remember , this was not exactly a HUGE hit as far as protection is concerned , back in the 2005 version . I think the screenshots look nice . I really do . But , how good will it be ? It needs to be better than 2005 . Try not to get caught up in the looks of the interface . Though , I would love the interface .

[mercurie]

Hello Fellow Creatures,
The GUI does look nice. Like Hollywood said protection is the most important issue and still do not see any resource useage numbers. Has potential for a suite user. ;)

[bigc73542]

I don't know what the resources are on TMIS 2006 but the usage of 2005 are over twice what my Nav internet security 2005 is. I have also liked PC-Cillin until I really checked the processor use it consumes. Just the TMproxy module uses between 45000 and 61000 you add all of the other modules in there and that is a lot of resource usage. Where as my Nav is useing 47000 total for all modules. I think I will pass on the new TMIS.

[Graystoke]

I have to admit, if you look at AV-Comparatives, TMIS doesn't do as well as NAV or McAfee, but I guess I can live with that.

It does tend to slow my computer down a lot at boot up. I remember now, that was the reason I uninstalled it the first time I used it. I'm going to keep running it until TMIS 2006 comes out and go from there.

[Sher]

It doesn't slow down even the slowest of PC's. Like, I'm running it on P3 1 GHz with 376MB, for eight months now and yet my machine doesn't freeze, slow down or make noises. That says it all as far as the performance is concerned!

NAV is the worst program in the history. It's a big virus itself! Full stop!

My personal opinion, on PC-cillin is, that if you've it installed, you don't have any chance of getting a malware in teh first place. Visit porn sites, crack sites, or whatever, you keep rollin' with it. Such is my confidence with its reliablity now that I keep it OFF most of the times yet I don't get anything. Why? :D

It's right up there among the best with Kaspersky and NOD32. The rest are below that league.

[Zee59]

I am currently using Pc-Cillin Internet Security 2005 on Windows XP with 512 MB and a Pent 3. I find that it has been very good in protecting my Pc against Viruses and Trojans, It did catch one earlier this year.
My Question is this I called up Trend yesterday ( what a pleasure to talk to someone in virus support for free and in less then 3 minutes waiting time)and asked the Tech Support Person when PC-Cillin Internet Security06 will be out,she said November 1. And the new Version will contain a spyware scanner, phishing scanning or blocking and a toolbar on IE if you want it(it can be disabled she told me.
I:d like to know if using Trends new version which seems more like a suite is a good idea or possibbly try these sceneraio's out.

Kav06 with Zone Alarm Free Version? or Nod 32 With ZA Free?

I am concerned that the new version of Pc-Cillin Internet Security 2006 will be more of a resource eater.
I am very happy with the 05 version it did not use that much resources.
Any advice would be much appreciated.Thanks alot.

Zee

[Don Pelotas]

Hi Zee

Why not the Kaspersky Internet Suite 2006? It will contain the same things as the Trend suite and doesn't use a lot of resources, from november 1 you can try the official beta for free until it goes gold in jan/2006, well actually you can already try it, but these are pre-beta builds, so best to wait for the official beta.:)

[Paranoid2000]

{QUOTE-> Why not the Kaspersky Internet Suite 2006? <-QUOTE}Well KIS will include process, registry and scripting control so it can't really be seen as a direct comparison. :)

I do have to wonder what the anticipation is about though - the screenshots show a suite with anti-virus/spyware/spam options (and presumably some sort of firewall in the Network Security section). It's hardly a first, and certainly won't be the last.

[hollywoodpc]

Everyone has an opinion so , here is mine . There is NO way PC-cillin is comparable to NOD OR KAV . No way ! And , instead of trying to explain to all the folks who would argue this , do some research and you will find that their 2005 version was NOT tops in class . As I said before . I LIKE the interface but , it is about how good the program does what it should COMPARED to others of the same genre' .
Only an opinion but , good luck

[Sher]

I respect your opinion. ;D

I've used Kaspersky in the past, and I didn't like the interface. Even, when it blocks viruses, it doesn't display anything, which is pathetic. They need to improve it big time.

I haven't tried NOD32, so can't say much about it. But I've heard positive feedback from everywhere. The interface is better than Kaspersky.

As for PC-cillin, it's the best for me. Better than Kaspersky even(whose detection rate is the best).

I've been using it for eight months now, and NO VIRUS, so far! That's enough for me!

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> I respect your opinion. ;D

I've used Kaspersky in the past, and I didn't like the interface. Even, when it blocks viruses, it doesn't display anything, which is pathetic. They need to improve it big time. <-QUOTE}
Thats because you didn't configure it correctly, because the default config is to ""Promt user for action".

{QUOTE-> As for PC-cillin, it's the best for me. Better than Kaspersky even(whose detection rate is the best).

I've been using it for eight months now, and NO VIRUS, so far! That's enough for me! <-QUOTE}
No viruses, could it be that you simply didn't have had any?;)

PC-cillin has an average detection on level with the free Avast, AntiVir and only slightly better than AVG, but if the GUI is the most important, then by all means....:)

[Sher]

{QUOTE-> Thats because you didn't configure it correctly, because the default config is to ""Promt user for action". <-QUOTE}

I know very well how to configure it properly. I'm a perfectionist in that regard!

{QUOTE-> PC-cillin has an average detection on level with the free Avast, AntiVir and only slightly better than AVG <-QUOTE}

Ya... if you say so! ::)

[RejZoR]

Well i summed it up pretty similar to Don pelotas findings. Trend Micro isn't really that great as many think. AV-Comparatives test shows very similar results...

[Smokey]

{QUOTE-> As for PC-cillin, it's the best for me. Better than Kaspersky even(whose detection rate is the best).

I've been using it for eight months now, and NO VIRUS, so far! That's enough for me! <-QUOTE}
For the very normal, very common user PC-cillin should be fine.
Not ok, just fine.
Ok is: Kaspersky, Nod32, F-Secure, McAfee.

But don't forget: internet is full of all kind of dangers and those dangers are growing now-a-days every minute.

Congratulations for being virus-fre eight months, but remember, the day you are not virus-free anymore is already programmed.

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> Well i summed it up pretty similar to Don pelotas findings. Trend Micro isn't really that great as many think. AV-Comparatives test shows very similar results... <-QUOTE}
You should have seen Trend Micro two years back......I'm happy that they made a very good improvement in these two years. Even if its not as good as NOD or KAV, its still decent enough.

Maybe they'll improve even more......

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> I know very well how to configure it properly. I'm a perfectionist in that regard! <-QUOTE}
If you were such a perfectionist, then you would have noticed that Kav does of course give you notice when it blocks something.
{QUOTE-> Ya... if you say so! ::) <-QUOTE}
Yes , i do say so. Look, i understand, you love the Trend-Micro GUI and wish to promote it so that more users will use it, but people's motives for choosing an AV are different from person to person, not all fall for eyecandy, some will like you choose it because they like the GUI, some will choose an AV because of it configurability, it's heuristics or it's detection. Whatever suits any user is fine by me, but just don't tell me Trend-Micro is right up there with Kav or Nod in detection, because it isn't.

I would personally choose free choices like Avast or AntiVir long before i would pay for Trend-Micro, even if they are buttugly, but that because i choose detection/functionality before the look of the GUI and do not pay extra for eyecandy, thats just my opinion and there's nothing wrong with that or your way for that matter, no two persons are alike. :)

[Smokey]

{QUOTE-> some will choose an AV because of it configurability, it's heuristics or it's detection. <-QUOTE}
That are the real perfectionists!;)

[Brian N]

Trend GUI .. I do like their online scanner, but as a defense system on my pc .. No thank you.
Don't ask me why, I just don't like it, especially with the major ****up they made in one of their updates. It was worse than one of the nastiest worms ever found..

[Graystoke]

I have a question about CWShredder that is part of TMIS 2006. I am not familiar with it. Is it a true anti-spyware software, or is it just something that detects the coolwebsearch browser hijacker.?

[Graystoke]

{QUOTE-> Trend GUI .. I do like their online scanner, but as a defense system on my pc .. No thank you.
Don't ask me why, I just don't like it, especially with the major ****up they made in one of their updates. It was worse than one of the nastiest worms ever found.. <-QUOTE}


Hi Brian N. I have not heard of this. Can you please explain?

[Smokey]

{QUOTE-> I have a question about CWShredder that is part of TMIS 2006. I am not familiar with it. Is it a true anti-spyware software, or is it just something that detects the coolwebsearch browser hijacker.? <-QUOTE}
Trend Micro: "Trend Micro™ CWShredder™ is the latest defense against the new Cool Web Search variants".

[hollywoodpc]

{QUOTE-> If you were such a perfectionist, then you would have noticed that Kav does of course give you notice when it blocks something.

Yes , i do say so. Look, i understand, you love the Trend-Micro GUI and wish to promote it so that more users will use it, but people's motives for choosing an AV are different from person to person, not all fall for eyecandy, some will like you choose it because they like the GUI, some will choose an AV because of it configurability, it's heuristics or it's detection. Whatever suits any user is fine by me, but just don't tell me Trend-Micro is right up there with Kav or Nod in detection, because it isn't.

I would personally choose free choices like Avast or AntiVir long before i would pay for Trend-Micro, even if they are buttugly, but that because i choose detection/functionality before the look of the GUI and do not pay extra for eyecandy, thats just my opinion and there's nothing wrong with that or your way for that matter, no two persons are alike. :) <-QUOTE}

Amen ! Thank you kindly Don . Could not be better said ! Or written

[Sher]

{QUOTE-> If you were such a perfectionist, then you would have noticed that Kav does of course give you notice when it blocks something. <-QUOTE}

No, it didn't use to notify me at all. And I don't have to prove that. May be, now they have fixed that issue in their newer version!

One more thing, when I tried to uninstall, it destroyed my OS completely... the system won't even boot-up... same thing happened to my friend as well... but still from my very first post on this forum, I've been praising it!

{QUOTE-> Yes , i do say so. Look, i understand, you love the Trend-Micro GUI and wish to promote it so that more users will use it, but people's motives for choosing an AV are different from person to person, not all fall for eyecandy, some will like you choose it because they like the GUI, some will choose an AV because of it configurability, it's heuristics or it's detection. Whatever suits any user is fine by me, but just don't tell me Trend-Micro is right up there with Kav or Nod in detection, because it isn't.

I would personally choose free choices like Avast or AntiVir long before i would pay for Trend-Micro, even if they are buttugly, but that because i choose detection/functionality before the look of the GUI and do not pay extra for eyecandy, thats just my opinion and there's nothing wrong with that or your way for that matter, no two persons are alike. :) <-QUOTE}

See... you're actually making me laugh now with your somewhat childish kind of remarks. I'm just stating my opinion about it. I don't work for Trend Micro. And I'm not on a mission to promote it either. Whatever, I've said about it is what I've experienced with it. It's user feedback - actually! And I'm just sharing my experience with people. That's it!

It's a public forum, after all, where people express their views and share their ideas. I don't know why you have got a problem with me praising Trend Micro. If I do that, you call me a promoter. Weird!

And, if you hate Trend Micro that much, you can go on and make a new topic titled "PC-cillin Bashing," and even call up all your allies, I don't care! But you can't force me to change my mind about something which I think is RIGHT!

P.S. And please, no comparisons from now onwards. Thanks!

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> No, it didn't use to notify me at all. And I don't have to prove that. May be, they have fixed that issue in their newer version! <-QUOTE}
I've been using Kaspersky since version 3.0 (& practicly all builds), none of the versions have exhibited a behavior like you claim, now if you have change the setting to "Perform recomended action" from the default "Prompt user for action"..........but in this case it would only have done as instructed by........you.
{QUOTE-> See... you're actually making me laugh now with your somewhat childish kind of remarks. I'm just stating my opinion about it. I don't work for Trend Micro. And I'm not on a mission to promote it either. Whatever, I've said about it is what I've experienced with it. It's user feedback - actually! And I'm just sharing my experience with people. That's it!

It's a public forum, after all, where people express their views and share their ideas. I don't know why you have got a problem with me praising Trend Micro. If I do that, you call me a promoter. Weird!

P.S. And please, no comparisons from now onwards. Thanks! <-QUOTE}
I'm glad i made you laugh, but lets get something straight, you were the one with claims like:
{QUOTE-> NAV is the worst program in the history. It's a big virus itself! Full stop! <-QUOTE}
{QUOTE-> My personal opinion, on PC-cillin is, that if you've it installed, you don't have any chance of getting a malware in teh first place. Visit porn sites, crack sites, or whatever, you keep rollin' with it. Such is my confidence with its reliablity now that I keep it OFF most of the times yet I don't get anything. Why?

It's right up there among the best with Kaspersky and NOD32. The rest are below that league. <-QUOTE}
{QUOTE-> I've used Kaspersky in the past, and I didn't like the interface. Even, when it blocks viruses, it doesn't display anything, which is pathetic. They need to improve it big time. <-QUOTE}
And in another thread:
{QUOTE-> Every free AV program sucks <-QUOTE}
And since this is a public forum where people express their views and share their ideas, as you so correctly state, what could possibly be wrong with setting you straight on some of those incorrect claims? Unless of course you only wish to see one "truth" (yours)?

I don't have a problem you, i'm simply saying PC-Cillin is not quite as good as you think it is and that a free product like AntiVir has the same kind of detectionrate, you apparantly don't like that, but again you were the one with who opened the door to discussion by making the post.

Just for the record: I don't hate Trend-Micro/PC-Cillin, i just don't think they are very good, thats all and sharing my views, thats not bashing!

[Sher]

About Norton... yep... it's the worst ever... screws your PC big time... destroys the registry... in fact, squeezes the life outta your PC... more than 90% people will acknowledge that!

See... I didn't like the interface of Kaspersky... that's true... but right from my very first post, I'm calling it one of the best - in fact - the best(detection wise). Read again!

Before buying PC-cillin, I used to have AntiVir, and there's no way on earth you could compare a below-average product with a great product like PC-cillin.

And to me, PC-cillin is, and will always be the best! It's a RIPPER! 8)

P.S. And I don't want anyone to agree with me on that. Again, I'm just stating my opinion!

[Murtadh]

At the past trandmicro was not good enough to compare it with kav, nod, panda and avast. but in the last 2 years the company takes long steps to the best, and I thing now its better than any free av.

That’s my opinion
Murtadh

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> See... I didn't like the interface of Kaspersky... that's true... but right from my very first post, I'm calling it one of the best - in fact - the best(detection wise). Read again!! <-QUOTE}
No need to read again, i know you think it's one of the best, my comments were about this:
{QUOTE-> Even, when it blocks viruses, it doesn't display anything, which is pathetic. They need to improve it big time. <-QUOTE}
Nothing more, nothing less.
{QUOTE-> Before buying PC-cillin, I used to have AntiVir, and there's no way on earth you could compare a below-average product with a great product like PC-cillin. <-QUOTE}
PC-cillin has the same detectionrate as Avast & AntiVir, if you don't believe me, then read something like the AV-Comparatives tests (http://www.av-comparatives.org/) and you will see that the detection both on-demand & proactive is basicly the same.
{QUOTE-> And to me, PC-cillin is, and will always be the best! It's a RIPPER! 8) ! <-QUOTE}
Fair enough.

[bellgamin]

{QUOTE-> I like "windowsMe". However, it may be time to upgrade to xp. <-QUOTE} Hmmm... why buy XP when Microsoft's new Vista OS is due out shortly?

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> Hmmm... why buy XP when Microsoft's new Vista OS is due out shortly? <-QUOTE}
Because support for WinMe will probably be removed much before the time Windows Vista arrives....maybe. ;)

[hollywoodpc]

Vista is due out shortly ? Can you tell me more as I am out of the loop . I thought it would be at least another 8 months . At least ! What is the latest on their release now ?
Thanks

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> Vista is due out shortly ? Can you tell me more as I am out of the loop . I thought it would be at least another 8 months . At least ! What is the latest on their release now ?
Thanks <-QUOTE}
By saying shortly bellgamin means ~1year ;)

[bellgamin]

{QUOTE-> As for PC-cillin... I've been using it for eight months now, and NO VIRUS, so far! That's enough for me! <-QUOTE}My eldest grandchild has surfed for over 2 years with NO antivirus program.:o She, too, has experienced no malware. Even so, I wouldn't suggest anyone to do as she does.

Neither would I suggest anyone to select an AV based on anecdotal evidence instead of objective test results, such as those at AV-comparatives (http://www.av-comparatives.org/).

[Sputnik]

{QUOTE-> Hmmm... why buy XP when Microsoft's new Vista OS is due out shortly? <-QUOTE}
Well, this is kind of a difficult statement. Personally I've very bad feeling about Vista (besides it will take to at least August 2006 before it hits the stores). I think deciding on the beta's and Microsoft's reports I'll never use Vista as my primary os. Vista for me will be the time to chance to Linux as primary os.

Why so? Well vista will break support with many old hardware (especially old videocards). Vista will support with lots os system releated software... Wich means you've to buy plenty of updates, or replacements. Also it's butt-ugly (but that's personal) and will be draining lots of system recources just to run your os.

Just my opinion, and sorry for off-topic, and possible faulty spelling, it's late here (3:33 exact) and still working :-\

[Graystoke]

One quick question. I thought the new OS was supposed to be called Longhorn. When did they change it to Vista?


Now back to Sher's PC-cillin IS 2006 thread. :)

[Firecat]

{QUOTE->
One quick question. I thought the new OS was supposed to be called Longhorn. When did they change it to Vista? <-QUOTE}

Longhorn was the internal beta name and was not representative of the final name.

[Graystoke]

{QUOTE-> Longhorn was the internal beta name and was not representative of the final name. <-QUOTE}


Ahhh. Thanks Firecat.

[Sher]

I didn't know this before today... but "PC-cillin 2004" was actually the proud winner of PCWORLD'S "Best AV Product of 2004!" I didn't even use that version.

In an other REVIEW by CNET, it was declared the best Internet Security Suite of 2005 ahead of Norton and Mcafee.

Anyway, I'll surely question the credibility of that site(AV comparitives) due to many reasons.

I also went to that guy's forum, and was actually shocked to find out that "PC-cillin 2005" was the only AV product, which was missing from his long list comprisng of even some unknown names. That's enough for me to understand that he probably has some issues with Trend Micro.

Even in his chart, the "OVERALL" score of PC-cillin is 92% which is very good!

He surely looks a huge fan of Kaspersky and Norton.

P.S. Plz, no off-topic discussions here. Thank you!

[Firecat]

Y'know, I've used a lot of AntiVirus solutions, but PC-cillin is not better than McAfee or Norton or Kaspersky as far as malware detection goes. But that does not mean it is bad. Trend Micro improved their detection a lot in the past two years, and I believe there may be room for more.

PC-cillin is very popular because it offers a lot of "bang for the buck" - AntiSpyware, Firewall, AntiSpam and AntiVirus at the price of $49.95 (US) is a good deal indeed (and thats exactly why PCC is ahead of NAV and McAfee in the "OVERALL" regard).

[The Hammer]

{QUOTE-> I didn't know this before today... but "PC-cillin 2004" was actually the proud winner of PCWORLD'S "Best AV Product of 2004!" I didn't even use that version.

In an other REVIEW by CNET, it was declared the best Internet Security Suite of 2005 ahead of Norton and Mcafee.

Anyway, I'll surely question the credibility of that site(AV comparitives) due to many reasons.

I also went to that guy's forum, and was actually shocked to find out that "PC-cillin 2005" was the only AV product, which was missing from his long list comprisng of even some unknown names. That's enough for me to understand that he probably has some issues with Trend Micro.

Even in his chart, the "OVERALL" score of PC-cillin is 92% which is very good!

He surely looks a huge fan of Kaspersky and Norton.

P.S. Plz, no off-topic discussions here. Thank you! <-QUOTE}Trend won those awards because of features per dollar, not detection ability.

[Sher]

Norton is a malware itself. Mcafee has some serious issues.

Trend is the only product which doesn't give false-positives. This has been proved. Probably, that's why, its detection is poor, according to you GUYS! LOL!

[Sputnik]

{QUOTE-> Norton is a malware itself. Mcafee has some serious issues.

Trend is the only product which doesn't give false-positives. This has been proved. Probably, that's why, its detection is poor, according to you GUYS! LOL! <-QUOTE}
I think this topic better can be closed. This discussion is useless... I won't day PCC is bad, but it's not as excellent as you clain it is neither. The detection is nothing special (and no, this falses positives thing has nothing to do with that).

Personally I found PCC a kind of dragging on system recources. But that's diffrent on every system ofcource. It's a nice product for on a "joe's family pc" but it's not in the same category as Kaspersky for example. Again, not said it's a bad product because of that.

[DonKid]

{QUOTE-> You should have seen Trend Micro two years back......I'm happy that they made a very good improvement in these two years. Even if its not as good as NOD or KAV, its still decent enough.

Maybe they'll improve even more...... <-QUOTE}

Well,

I saw TM 2 years ago and recently I tried their Anti-Spyware, that found a false positive.
I've waste a lot of time searching a way to send the false positive in their website.After typing a lot of questions and finally I sent the file.
I never had an answer from them.
And I never going to try anything from Trend Micro again.

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> Well,

I saw TM 2 years ago and recently I tried their Anti-Spyware, that found a false positive.
I've waste a lot of time searching a way to send the false positive in their website.After typing a lot of questions and finally I sent the file.
I never had an answer from them.
And I never going to try anything from Trend Micro again. <-QUOTE}
Well, two years back, their virus submission service was so unresponsive that they would take months to give you an anlysis of your submission. I would have expected them to improve by now, especially since my recent submissions had quite some nice responses.....seems not all users have the same experience :-\

[DonKid]

I think support for their Anti-Spyware is provided for another company.
If you buy a company, you have to keep the good work.
If you can´t trust their Antivirus, can you imagine another products created by another company ?
I´d like to receive a normal support.
I´m trialing KIS 2006 and it found some trojans that my antivirus until today can´t detect.So I sent an email to them and I received a great support.:)

Lucky you to receive an answer :)

Best Regards,

DonKid.

[bigc73542]

{QUOTE-> Norton is a malware itself. Mcafee has some serious issues.

Trend is the only product which doesn't give false-positives. This has been proved. Probably, that's why, its detection is poor, according to you GUYS! LOL! <-QUOTE}



I have used pc-cillin since ver.2000 and I also have trendmicro internet security 2005 which I removed just the other day and put my Norton internet security 2005 back on for the simple reason that nortons detection rate is much better than trends and Nav av 2005 runs much lighter than trend also.

bigc

[maddawgz]

cher id love to know why mcafee has serious issues?? I've been using it for month now find it great!! I use to be like u loved trend but It missed a few trojans going back mcafee is better at finding them...;) Pc cillians GUI grabbed me i guess But i have been so wrapped with Mcafee 2006 and its antispyware it found stuff that Msoft had missed...all in all i'ts the best I've used so far..R MD

im sure i got seperation anxiety from pc cillian took me a while to get rid of my 2004 lol

[Brian N]

{QUOTE-> Hi Brian N. I have not heard of this. Can you please explain? <-QUOTE}
http://www.techworld.com/security/news/index.cfm?NewsID=3548

They recieved 311,900 calls, and I know most people don't care about calling .. well .. anyone :)

[Smokey]

{QUOTE-> Norton is a malware itself. Mcafee has some serious issues.
<-QUOTE}
IMO YOU are the serious issue.....::)

I can't take you serious anymore, you don't know you are 'talking about...::)

[bigc73542]

Easy on the personal remarks guys, lets keep it civil. ;) bigc

[Brian N]

Back in the day, Norton was great - Infact it was the best.
I won't comment on anything these days since I stopped using it when 2002 was released :)

[bigc73542]

Norton version 2005 is a really great improvement over the older versions. They are so much better in the lightness on resources as compaired to the older versions and the detection has been improved to cover the newer malware crawling around the web. Over all probably around a 300% improvement in my experience. You can even uninstall it with out hoseing you comp.;)

[Smokey]

{QUOTE-> Easy on the personal remarks guys, lets keep it civil. ;) bigc <-QUOTE}
BigC ok, i've edited my message;)

[tiagozt]

{QUOTE-> I respect your opinion. ;D

I've used Kaspersky in the past, and I didn't like the interface. Even, when it blocks viruses, it doesn't display anything, which is pathetic. They need to improve it big time.

I haven't tried NOD32, so can't say much about it. But I've heard positive feedback from everywhere. The interface is better than Kaspersky.

As for PC-cillin, it's the best for me. Better than Kaspersky even(whose detection rate is the best).

I've been using it for eight months now, and NO VIRUS, so far! That's enough for me! <-QUOTE}

I configured all AV to NOT show information when viruses is found. The rules are:
virus found > desinfect > IF not possible, quarantine and delete
My AVs do it withou any information to me... And I like it...
Kaspersky is configurable too... to show the information or not...
I'm using eScan now, but Pc-CIllin is a very good AV... I will try IS 2006, but other version are very good... But I think Kaspersky is better...
My opinion...

[RejZoR]

Only AV that has this automated process designed with pure perfection is avast!.
That yellow/red popup line above taskbar is the most genius thing ever seen in any AV. Especially useful when using Silent Mode or Repair if not possible Delete/Quarantine options. Does the job silently and displays notification in most non intrusive way.

[mikel108]

2006 TrendMicro is now posted on their website.

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> 2006 TrendMicro is now posted on their website. <-QUOTE}
Always right on spot. They always post the info every year at October 31 in my Time Zone (I've observed for three years now :D)

BTW, not all websites have been updated with the new download links, but in the global TrendMicro site, when you download the trial of PCC, you'll get the 2006 version.

[Graystoke]

I just installed the new TMIS 2006 about a half hour ago. I upgraded from TMIS 2005. Installation, basically the same as TMIS 2005, went smoothly. Configuration is just about the same as with TMIS 2005 with just a few minor changes here and there. GUI is nice. The firewall is the same as TMIS 2005. No strain on my PC during startup and browsing. So far I find it to be about the same as TMIS 2005. No big surprises. Nothing that jumps out at you. A nice solid AV. I'll keep it on my PC for few days and see how it goes. I also purchased NAV 2006 a few days ago, so I have that to check out also. :)

[Baldrick]

{QUOTE-> Norton version 2005 is a really great improvement over the older versions. They are so much better in the lightness on resources as compaired to the older versions and the detection has been improved to cover the newer malware crawling around the web. Over all probably around a 300% improvement in my experience. You can even uninstall it with out hoseing you comp.;) <-QUOTE}

I have to agree with BigC. Have used NIS for a number of years with absolutely no ill effects to my PC. It has caught a number of viruses attempting to come aboard.......none have got through. 2005 version was a great improvement and 2006 is even better. 2005 uninstalled quickly and effectively. One reboot and then I installed 2006 with no trouble at all. It is more responsive than before, lighter on resource and covers just about all relevant angles. The Anti Spyware component is new and as such there is no doubt room for improvement (but then again I run another spyware detector as a layered defense is best). So NIS works for me.

My point is.......why do we have to diss other products. I trialled PC-Cillin IS (I always check out the market at the end of a subscription) and decided for a number of reasons that it was not for me, so I went for NIS2006. I am sure that PC-Cillin IS 2006 is a capable product. It would just be nice to get objective views as to its capabilities.

Regards




Baldrick

[Graystoke]

I have a little horror story to tell. I installed TMIS 2006 yesterday. But being the way that I am, I had to give NAV 2006 a try. So this morning I decided to uninstall TMIS 2006 and install NAV 2006. Well it didn't go smoothly to say the least. I uninstall TMIS, rebooted, and my interned connection was gone. So I reinstalled it, and my internet connection is back. I tried uninstalling the TMIS firewall first this time. Rebooted, no internet connection. Reinstalled the firewall, rebooted, still no internet connection. Uninstalled the whole thing again, rebooted, reinstalled TMIS, internet connection back. I didn't want to go through the whole process again, so I gave Trend Micro tech support a call. After putting me on hold for about five minutes, she had me go into the TMIS folder>TMIS Tools>General Tab>click on Uninstall Modules. (I think Uninstall Modules is correct. I can't remember exactly because my head hurts.) I was able to unistall, and have my internet connection back.

I'm not sure if it was the TMIS firewall that caused all this. I should have asked, but I was tired and so happy to have my internet connection back, I forgot. I am very impressed with TM's tech support, but I'm not sure I'll install TMIS again. All I enabled was the AV, firewall and spyware modules, so I don't know if it's worth it for me to run TMIS.

[se7engreen]

{QUOTE-> how to activate TMIS 2006 longer than 1 month, can you give me some serial or crack, patch ... <-QUOTE}

This isn't a software whoring forum. You should read the TOS before posting.
Besides, what kind of reputable security forum would recommend cracked software for online protection? That's like suggesting a gasoline bath before welding metal.

[SpeedyBlueAngel]

{QUOTE-> I may try tmis 2006 when it comes out on october 31. That is, if it's "windowsMe" compatible. One website states that it's compatible with 98, me, 2000, and xp. Another site says only windows 2000 and xp. ::)

I like "windowsMe". However, it may be time to upgrade to xp. I notice a lot of software is only compatible with 2000 and xp now. <-QUOTE}


hi, im from trendmicro and im part of the support team that handles Pc-cillin Internet Security. Win98/SE/ME will be supported by TIS2006. =)

[fanghaoji]

Ha,..........it looks so cool. I want to know how much it is.;D

[simp]

The new norton 2006 is nice,I like it...anyone know where is the cheapest place to get it online? Maybe like 20 bucks or something...

[tazdevl]

{QUOTE-> I didn't know this before today... but "PC-cillin 2004" was actually the proud winner of PCWORLD'S "Best AV Product of 2004!" I didn't even use that version.

In an other REVIEW by CNET, it was declared the best Internet Security Suite of 2005 ahead of Norton and Mcafee.

Anyway, I'll surely question the credibility of that site(AV comparitives) due to many reasons. <-QUOTE}

Sher, don't take this wrong, but you just don't get it. You cite reviews from sources that don't use scientific testing (PCWorld, PCMag, cNet, ZDNet etc..), in many cases the tests are conducted by amateurs who know nothing about AV technologies aside from what they derive from marketing collateral (a parrot or monkey could write the review) and sometimes the writer just regurgitates test data that the AV companies send in. Bottom line is that the reviews you refer to are not valid.

Not to mention, ever notice that the only companies included in the tests are ones that advertise with the magazines? Ever notice that the AV apps not included don't advertise in the magazines? Doesn't that make you wonder?

Every test I have seen and every trial I have conducted resulted in TMIS being a mediocre performer with higher resource usage than the competition. Yes it is not a bad program for an amateur to use but most people that I know, novice and experts alike, would sacrifice a bit of usability for much better detection.

Your ignorance is further validated by your comment regarding av-comparatives. The author of av-comparatives is a well respected individual in the AV community. Name one reason why you think the results are suspect.

Do the other supposedly credible "tests" you refer to give the same detailed results regarding the test sample and methodology used? Do these "tests" explain the background of the person conducting the test and credentials of the person writing the review? There are plenty of other independent and unbiased review sites out there that support the results found on av-comparatives.

Bottom line is that it just seems like you're trying to stir things up. This is a board of security enthusiasts, many of whom know a great deal about AV/AT/Malware/Spyware. Might be a good idea to read and listen rather than take a stand totally based in ignorance.

I played with it BTW, my response is "meh, par for the course from TM". Wouldn't use it even if it was given to me for free.

[Paranoid2000]

{QUOTE-> I also went to that guy's forum, and was actually shocked to find out that "PC-cillin 2005" was the only AV product, which was missing from his long list comprisng of even some unknown names. That's enough for me to understand that he probably has some issues with Trend Micro. <-QUOTE}AV-Comparatives only tests products with the vendors' approval so it's quite possible that Trend Micro did not consent to being included in the tests (which would then lead to the obvious question, why?). For example, Sophos is not going to appear in future tests since they have asked to be removed (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=543011&postcount=5).

Finally there are other AV products not included in Comparatives (e.g. F-Secure, Panda, UNA) - just because you don't know of them doesn't mean they don't exist.

[Smokey]

{QUOTE-> which would then lead to the obvious question, why <-QUOTE}
Maybe they are afraid for the results?;)

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> Maybe they are afraid for the results?;) <-QUOTE}
IMO They are quite grateful to see how their product is....TrendMicro is not ALL about marketing, they do develop and improve their product. :)

[Smokey]

{QUOTE-> IMO They are quite grateful to see how their product is....TrendMicro is not ALL about marketing, they do develop and improve their product. :) <-QUOTE}
Nice point of view;) ;D

[The Hammer]

{QUOTE-> Nice point of view;) ;D <-QUOTE}More than that,it's true!:P

[Sputnik]

A little BUMP here...

Today I recieved mail from Trend-Micro with their thanks for my effort in their beta-program. I personally almost forgot about it (it was back in august and september). They send me a one year license key too.
I'll try it out for some time, and report back. After all, first impression is nice, since they give beta-testers a present, very good! :)

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> A little BUMP here...

Today I recieved mail from Trend-Micro with their thanks for my effort in their beta-program. I personally almost forgot about it (it was back in august and september). They send me a one year license key too.
I'll try it out for some time, and report back. After all, first impression is nice, since they give beta-testers a present, very good! :) <-QUOTE}
I've been knowing this for a while (~4 months) ;)

[maddawgz]

I want a key 1yr too? lucky u... just for being a beta tester not bad huh!...R MD

[Smokey]

{QUOTE-> After all, first impression is nice, since they give beta-testers a present, very good! :) <-QUOTE}
Is it already Xmas???? :)