KAV 4.5 release version

[Karl_Menshy]

Has anybody tried out the release version of KAV 4.5? I would like to know your opinions, esp. if the monitor component runs faster than in v4.0 or not.

I have been running 4.5 for some days now and am quite impressed. Although the monitor is not nearly as fast as NOD or RAV, working on a KAV protected computer seems finally possibel... :)

[wizard]

I've not tried the release version yet but the Monitor in the beta version was slightly faster than in 4.0. :)

wizard

[crazykidjoe]

I really like it and if configured properly, I don't see any slow down at all. c

[tahoma]

been using it since the say it was released. havent noticed and difference from the beta..but the beta always worked fine for me :)

[TAG97]

I use it as a backup on both my PCs.The monitor still leaves a lot to be desired. I don't think a person should have to uncheck 80% of options to be able to run it resident.
Ah but the next Beta will be the one I can hardly wait for! Then I will run it resident and feel well protected. :)
Regards
Tim

[Karl_Menshy]

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Ah but the next Beta will be the one I can hardly wait for! Then I will run it resident and feel well protected. :)
Regards
Tim
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Well, as far as I understood the final of v4.5 has been released on Jun, 9.

Correct me if I am wrong, please...

[root]

I used the 4.5 beta and this morning I installed the release version 4.5. A clean install, by the way. The only changed I made to the monitor setting is I unchecked monitoring A,D,and E drives as they do no need to be monitored. The default monitor settings are in place and I notice no slowdown.
If you use Power Desk, you will notice a slow down in opening directories with zipped files perhaps but thats all I've found so far.
It is a vast improvement over 4. 0X.
I think Tim may be talking about the beta for version 5.

[TAG97]

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Well, as far as I understood the final of v4.5 has been released on Jun, 9.

Correct me if I am wrong, please...
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Yes you are correct. The next Beta will hopefully be Version 5.That's the one I'm waiting for with high expectations=(Monitor:No slowdowns and Scanner4 times faster than Version 4). Then Kaspersy will rise to the top once again. :)
Regards
Tim

[TAG97]

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I used the 4.5 beta and this morning I installed the release version 4.5. A clean install, by the way. The only changed I made to the monitor setting is I unchecked monitoring A,D,and E drives as they do no need to be monitored. The default monitor settings are in place and I notice no slowdown.

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Root how does RegRun run with the monitor enabled? On my PC it ran very,very slow.
Regards
Tim

[Karl_Menshy]

Well seems that they implemented a checksumming in the monitor module, so that files don't get re-scanned over and over again, but only the first time they are accessed or when new sigs are loaded...great improvement indeed...did they copy that from Sophos?

[root]

Tim, since I am running SSM, Beta testing Outpost and one other program I can't mention, and since I change things on my computer so much, I finally took RegRun off my computer. It was bugging me to death with all the changes I was making.
I hope no one thinks this is a complaint about RegRun, as it is not. It does the job it's supposed to do and the way I use my computer, I'm like a hacker attacking it. ;D
RegRun asks as it should, do I want to allow this change and that one, so I finally gave in. I could change the settings to not ask, but that would defeat the purpose of having it.
Tim, I never noticed RegRun slowing anything down, or interacting with KAV. Can you explain a little more what is happening?

[TAG97]

Root:
After reading so many positive results with the just released Kav4.5 I reinstalled the Monitor after uninstalling DrWeb,which I didn't do the previous times.
After rebooting I set the monitor up using what was recommended in different posts. I right clicked on the RegRun system tray Icon (WatchDog)>click on RegRun Control Center and it took 15 seconds before the Control Center appeared, which is 13-14 seconds too long.
Well to move this post along, :) this time unlike previous Kav versions, this only happened the first time. So I now will keep Kav as Resident and Reinstalled DrWeb Scanner only and use it as backup.
All seems to running fine untill the next Drive Image Restore ;D
Regards
Tim

[Graystoke]

Hello. I am by no means an anti-virus program expert. What I know about them is from reading comments in forums like this. I'm using NAV 2003, but I'm thinking of switching to either KAV or Mcafee just from reading about them in forums.

Would KAV be concidered a program for someone on an expert level? Does it have a high learning curve? With NAV I basically set it and forget it. Does KAV take a lot of configuring when first installed? Would Mcafee be something better suited for me? Sorry for all the questions. Just trying to figure out what direction I want to go.

Running XP Home.

[tahoma]

im no expert either, i jsut like trying things out. this results in me ahving to format a lot more often than you wanna know. as for kav, my opinion is: kav is THE best av, no doubt about that. i guess it has a learning curve, and several of my friends, who i have recommended kav to, have ended up with unusable systems. dont know why tho. kav slows down a fair bit im afraid, but with some tweaking and configurating it will run fairly smoothly.

i wouldnt recommedn NAV to anyone, over the years it ahs caused me more grief than KAV. as for mcafee i hear it can screw systems up too.

so, erm, i dont know what to recommend really :)

(yay, im pretty useless)

[root]

Hi Hobnob.Obviously I prefer KAV over McAfee and that is for several reasons. One you would have a hard time finding a professional in the AV field that didn't think KAV has the best unpacking engine available and two, KAV is one of the best Trojan detectors around as well as a great AV. Also, ever since McAfee got bloated it has never ran good on a machine I have installed it on. Kav has become a large program, but it's all muscle and no fat. It does not mess with the way your machine runs and there is an uninstall program that is available that will clean out the registry entries left behind.
It is not difficult to use KAV and you can get help with tweaking the settings here or at the Kaspersky Iceland board here.
http://forums.useice.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi I would also go to the Iceland board and get help downloading version 4.5 as Kaspersky is still selling 4.09 as their last official release. Version 4.5 is considered a technical release but is a final version.
I help people with Outpost Firewall problems and would be glad to help you with KAV is you decide to try it as it is easier than most things I have to help people with.
Try it before you buy it and there's no risk. :)

[Graystoke]

Thanks for the offer of help Root. I appreciate that. I am going to give it some more thought for a day or two. But if I do decided to give it a try, I will deffinately call out your name here if I run into problems. :)

Thank you again and tohoma also for replying to my question.

[Karl_Menshy]

One more question: Has anybody an option in the scanner settings to enable checking of Outlook express mailboxes? Have seen that on some screenshots, but don't have this particular setting on my system...I thought OE mailboxes were integrated in the general mailbox settings anyway...

[root]

Hi Karl. I think for the current versions the email scanner is limited to Outlook and not OE.
KAV will still scan your email depending on the settings in the monitor and the scanner.
Version 5 is going to a POP3 monitor which should work with all POP3 email clients. I've been looking for them to do this for a long time.

[Karl_Menshy]

root: I was not talking about the mail checker. I was talking about the general on demand scanner. A screenshot on the DSL board was showing an extra option "check outlook express databases" which is missing over here...

I know that KAV scans mail databases. I was just wondering if they added an extra option for OE...

[root]

You're right Karl. I never noticed that before.
On the scanner settings there is a box to check to scan M$ Outlook Express data bases. It's on the scanner settings and not the monitor settings. I had just glanced at the scanner settings to make sure everything was checked by default, and it was.

[controler]

Lisa gave me a new extra month KEY so I had to try again to get it working on my machine and today I succedded. Everything is working great so far ;D

I will now try KAV Antihacker and see if I can get that working.
Every time I installed it before, I lost my internet connection, Well actuly
my network connection, since I could not even access my network card.
Let ya know how it goes

con

[Open Source]

8) So many toys so little time.

[Karl_Menshy]

root: I don't have this option, but again I dont' have OE installed...maybe the KAV scanner is intelligent ;D

[root]

Are you sure you have version 4.5?
I don't have OE either.

[tahoma]

a new build of kav 4.5 was released on the 18th june (i think). its available from ftp.kaspersky.com

guess what ? on my system the speed of kav monitor has improved dramaticly with this release. i now can use the default settings and have kav monitor scan everything, and i notice about as little slowdown as i do with drweb's resident scanner :D ;D :D

1.2ghz athlon, 768 mb ram, xp pro sp1

[Lisa]

Hi All,
I just typed a lovely reply to this then realised I wasn't logged and lost the darn thing :-\

If you can't see the box to check OE databases try this:-
Open Scanner Properties via KAVCC, if you have unchecked one of the drives e.g. Floppy try switching between Standard and Expert mode, then the tick box should return. I have no idea why it does this, I did once attempt to write this behaviour down but it is not easy to explain, I really should learn Russian!! ::)

BTW 4.5 is a Technical release, a new one with fixes was issued yesterday, it is not a "final release" as we often issue fixes/patches new versions - by the Commercial release it should have been sorted out. Then its flat out for version 5.0 I guess July/August time.

Regards
Lisa KL UK

[Open Source]

Hello Lisa thank you for posting.

Its always nice to see more ladys posting here at wilders welcome.

[Karl_Menshy]

Lisa: I can tick whatever drive boxes I want and I can check back and forth from expert to standard view, still no OE option shows :(...but as I don't use OE I can live without this option.

But I do not have the CC installed...may this be the reason?

[Karl_Menshy]

Lisa: one more info: If I check the View scan options menu entry, it reports that the OE database check is enabled, although I still don't see the matching box.

[Lisa]

Hi Karl - Yes you need to have the KAVCC loaded to be able to see these settings.

The option is set by default if I remember correctly, but as I have had SOooo many versions on and off this pc I can't recall exactly??!!

Regards

Lisa

[Technodrome]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Lisa link=board=24;threadid=10274;start=15#msg68164 date=1056035876]

BTW 4.5 is a Technical release, a new one with fixes was issued yesterday, it is not a "final release" as we often issue fixes/patches new versions - by the Commercial release it should have been sorted out. Then its flat out for version 5.0 I guess July/August time.

Regards
Lisa KL UK
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Its such a shame to see all this fixes for 4.xx version. :-[ Kaspersky used to be a problem-free antivirus. Hopefully 5 version will be able to reproduce Stability and Quality of 3.xx. ::)



Technodrome

[root]

You can thank XP for the problems that all the software makers are having.

[Karl_Menshy]

Just a quick info for all interested in v4.5. There is a docu in pdf format available from the usual download servers. Not much has changed from v4.0 manual, but maybe I haven't read it all too closely.

ftp://ftp.kaspersky-labs.com/docs/english/kav4.5_personale.pdf

[Technodrome]

-{ Quote: " quoting: root link=board=24;threadid=10274;start=30#msg68426 date=1056126539]
You can thank XP for the problems that all the software makers are having.
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Many AV products are very stable on XP. However, KAV 4.xx is having problems on 9x systems as well.



Technodrome

[root]

True Techie, the problem for a lot of the security software makers is to get their program to run on both.
When XP came out I watched several programs start foundering around for quite some time trying to get programs to work on all M$ platforms. Wouldn't be such a problem if M$ would lighten up on their tightfisted approach to releasing a little information to the software makers. Which, by the way, the court told them to do and they still are not doing it.

[Technodrome]

Anywayz, KAV is still THE BEST Malware detector so lets hope that 5 version will solve all 4.xx problems. ;)



tECHNODROME

[root]

I totally agree. I got away from KAV for a while because it was such a dog. I just like for people to understand, as I'm sure you do, that the problems Kaspersky and other vendors are having is not because they are producing bad software or don't care about customers problems.

[Straight Shooter]

Well, now you guys are frightening me....

I considered buying KAV next week... I use WInXP Pro..What problems will I have? LOL...

I also have a license for Outpost 2.0 that I paid for with I believe free updates.... Will it work well with KAV? Or is ZAPro more compatiable?

[Technodrome]

Trial version is available on line SS. Try it before you buy it. ;)

Never heard about any problem with KAV and firewalls.

Since you got a load of $$$ why not add Kaspersky Anti-Hacker firewall to you arsenal? LOL



tECHNODROME

[Straight Shooter]

I'm not that rich.... :o

I heard Anti Hacker wasn't up to par anyway..

I ran the trial, and had no problesms..but a trial is a clipped copy.. Besides I don't know if you read my reply for your post at DSL, but I use 3 computers, and McAfee did not cost me ONE RED CENT! I got it as an upgrade from Symantec, LOL... The only programs I bought that were money wasted were...

1. SpamKiller...LOL
2. Tauscan.
3. PestPatrol LOL.. But I still use it...


But I buy software and use it legally. I won't use one copy on two machines...if that's not the license is for one machine only..

I had a ZAPro license and it expired.

[Technodrome]

McAfee's excellent scanner and I'd would stick with it. With McAfee U already got good unpacking and good heuristic engine. ;)


tECHNODROME

[Straight Shooter]

I like it and I'll probably wind up keeping it, it's just that I got fed up with their Forced Update of the Security Center which basically messes up McAfee and is useless advertising...

[tahoma]

kav 4.5 and outpost 2 here. no probs at all

[Technodrome]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Straight Shooter link=board=24;threadid=10274;start=30#msg68503 date=1056170818]
it's just that I got fed up with their Forced Update of the Security Center which basically messes up McAfee and is useless advertising...

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I think you should be able to unistall this... ::)


tECHNODROME

[root]

KAV 4.5 is working great on my machine and of course I use Outpost.
Technodrome and I were talking about what happened with KAV ver 4.0 up to 4.09.
Get the laterst version of 4.5 and I think you will be pleased.

[Straight Shooter]

-{ Quote: " quoting: root link=board=24;threadid=10274;start=30#msg68567 date=1056200767]
KAV 4.5 is working great on my machine and of course I use Outpost.
Technodrome and I were talking about what happened with KAV ver 4.0 up to 4.09.
Get the laterst version of 4.5 and I think you will be pleased.
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Well, thank you for your opinion... I appreciate it...

As I said, I already ran KAV Pers Pro as a trial, and it ran smoothly on my 'puter...

One other question, if I may... I emailed tech support twice at KAV, 2-3 days ago. No answer yet.. Is their support generally ignorant?

The new outpost looks very well... It ran nice and unobtrusively on mysystem, although I don't think they did anything to the active content plug ins...

Thanks for your help...

[Blackcat]

Hi Straight Shooter

In my experience the main Russian KAV support is not very good.

You will find a much quicker response over at their 'unofficial forum' here;

http://forums.useice.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi

Where you will find help from fellow KAV users and KAV support staff who regularly drop by.

The KAV swiss site also has very good support; http://www.avp.ch/

Some of us Brits are even more lucky as KAV UK support is superb!!!

Incidently, do you really need Personal Pro? Most people find KAV Personal covers most of their needs. Why not trail this, particularly with KAV 5 just around the corner.

[Straight Shooter]

Hello, Blackcat.. I really haven't made up my mind...yet.. When do you think Vr 5 is coming out? Do you know what that will cost? If I buy Ver 4.5, will be be an upgrade free to ver 5?

Thanks

[controler]

Lisa is always quick to respond and very knowledgeable

try her out. ;)

con

[Blackcat]

Kaspersky have suggested that KAV5 will be released in July/August. However, since they have only just released version 4.5 and no sign of the beta of KAV5, I think the Autumn is more likely :'(

Price should be similar to present prices for v4.5. If you purchase 4.5, you receive a keyfile which you will be able to use with any updated version during the annual license period. In other words upgrade to version 5 will be free since KAV5 is on the horizon.

However, as you seem to be well covered with AVK, McAfee, GAV and NOD, as much as I like KAV, do you really need another AV program? Maybe a good AT program would be a better bet for your general security.

Although I know these AV programs can be addictive. I have at present registered versions of 4 different AV's on my computers here ;D ;D .

[Straight Shooter]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Blackcat link=board=24;threadid=10274;start=45#msg68612 date=1056221829]
However, as you seem to be well covered with AVK, McAfee, GAV and NOD, as much as I like KAV, do you really need another AV program? Maybe a good AT program would be a better bet for your general security.
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If McAfee does not remove an advertising oriented program from it's instant updater, then I will replace McAfee ... I paid $0 for it (competitive upgrade) and I won't give them the business from av subscriptions if they force adware on me...

Then I will decide what to do.. I only use GAV on Demand... No realtime, the RTM was way too intense for my computers... So, in protest to McAfee, I WILL dump them if they don't dump that updater... See this thread and you'll understand...


http://forums.mcafeehelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=11232&sid=1a68413982501b859e365c24152f1fd4

[controler]

Grfeat move SS !!!!!!!
dumping Mc afee is a wise thing to do. Nothing wrong with GAV, KAV, NOD or Norton