Bye bye RAV, say hello to "MS Antivirus" :-*

[vlk]

See http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2003/jun03/06-10GeCadPR.asp

Vlk

[meneer]

-{ Quote: "The knowledge and experience acquired from GeCAD will contribute to Microsoft’s understanding of how systems are attacked, enabling Microsoft to more effectively focus on platform improvements that will benefit customers and industry partners alike. " }-

Now it makes all sense ... they still didn't know how attackers work.
Glad to know that GeCAD does know :)

[Technodrome]

Wow...What a break thru for them!

Congrats!



Technodrome

[root]

I knew this was coming.
Now watch how poorly other AVs start behaving on newer Windows platforms.

[Straight Shooter]

"Terms of the acquisition were not announced. Details of the Microsoft antivirus solution, including product plans, pricing and a timeline for delivery, are not yet available. Microsoft strongly recommends that customers use antivirus solutions that are currently available from multiple suppliers, and that customers keep their virus signatures updated. More information on antivirus solutions and Microsoft is available at http://www.microsoft.com/security/antivirus/."

They are getting ready to cream that market.. I hope it doesn't become part of their operating system. It would be hell to uninstall... I wonder how they will do with Virus Bulletin LOL..

Seriously, though.. I don't think it should be part of their operating system... Let them sell it as Microsoft Antivirus.. >:(

[Blackcat]

I wonder whether the 80% rebate on renewal of the RAV license will still hold :'(

[Paul Wilders]

We;ll try to get some adittional info on this.

As stated by GeCad over here (http://www.rav.ro/pages/shownews.php?i=153):

"GeCAD will continue to expand its services and security business and develop new non antivirus related technologies and software solutions."

regards.

paul

[StAnger]

That is a relief, so GeCad is going to make the OS and not the other way round. ;D

[Madsen DK]

Windows® platform and extend support for third-party antivirus vendors so they can provide customers with increasingly secure and comprehensive levels of virus protection.
quote from the MS bulletin.

They DO mention third party av vendors, so perhaps they dont want to take over the world. Not yet anyway ;D
Lets wait and see.
Regards
Ole

[Madsen DK]

Another thing just came to mind.
If MS do decide to make antivirus a part of the OS( is it legal,?? you never know these days) i could imagine some not so happy faces in the AV industry.
Regards
Ole

[Paul Wilders]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Madsen DK link=board=24;threadid=10108;start=0#msg65831 date=1055273810]
Windows® platform and extend support for third-party antivirus vendors so they can provide customers with increasingly secure and comprehensive levels of virus protection.
quote from the MS bulletin.

They DO mention third party av vendors, so perhaps they dont want to take over the world. Not yet anyway ;D
Lets wait and see.
Regards
Ole
" }-

Indeed Ole. One thing is for sure though: malware developpers are going to target this "new" antivirus first and foremost.

regards.

paul

[Paul Wilders]

RAV users may receive this email from GeCAD in a shortwhile:

-{ Quote: "As you are aware, we at RAV have always maintained that our antivirus technology is amongst the best available. This is now testified by a recent
announcement by Microsoft Corporation on acquiring our technology. More information about this is available at www.ravantivirus.com and at
www.microsoft.com

As always, we would like to reiterate that our customers are important to us and that we will continue to maintain and provide the same high level of service that we have had in the past. Technical support for the product will
continue to be provided both by GeCAD and its authorised distributors. In addition, you will continue to receive virus signature updates, alerts and
advisories.

The company's web site www.ravantivirus.com will also continue to be available. Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to
contact us.

We continue to look forward to your ongoing support.

Thank you.

Sincerely Yours,


Radu Georgescu

President
GeCAD Software s.r.l." }-

regards.

paul

[Tinribs]

Well I cant say I'm happy about them entering into the a/v market, but two good things should come out of it;
1. Hopefully all new o/s users will have access to a a/v included with the o/s (and hence we should all be safer from exploits.
2. Rav is a good product and unless they mess it up its a quality product.

[Uguel707]

If users can benefit from it that would be a good thing. The rate and damages of computers affected by viruses is worth making a drastic change.

Bye, Uguel

[hayc59]

-{ Quote: " quoting: root link=board=24;threadid=10108;start=0#msg65808 date=1055263913]
I knew this was coming.
Now watch how poorly other AVs start behaving on newer Windows platforms.
" }-

ain't that gonna be the truth!!

[Detox]

Sounds like another good excuse for "mandatory" open connections with MS HQ to me :-(

If it's optional or easy to uninstal (yeah right) from the OS it would be ok.. But I envision an AV hardwired into the OS with "auto-update" connections necessary to MS for anything to work... And I don't like it.

[MegaHertz]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Detox link=board=24;threadid=10108;start=15#msg65873 date=1055297780]Sounds like another good excuse for "mandatory" open connections with MS HQ to me :-(

If it's optional or easy to uninstal (yeah right) from the OS it would be ok.. But I envision an AV hardwired into the OS with "auto-update" connections necessary to MS for anything to work... And I don't like it.
" }-
Exactly why I for one will not be upgrading to any M$ OS beyond Win2K. Linux is looking more attractive everyday. :)

[Straight Shooter]

The shape of things to come..

(I designed this...LOL)

[Tired]

I am a RAV user and I have really liked using it especially since it has caught several email viruses just last week.
This morning I received an email from RAV with the announcement mentioned above. Also in the email they said:
As always, we would like to reiterate that our customers are important to us
and that we will continue to maintain and provide the same high level of
service that we have had in the past. Technical support for the product will
continue to be provided both by GeCAD and its authorised distributors. In
addition, you will continue to receive virus signature updates, alerts and
advisories.
Oh, this all makes me nervous! I am very happy for the RAV folks who have worked hard and provide a great product but when MS gets involved I am not sure this will be my AV choice for the future.
I can't imagine they will maintain support for previous users and still offer the same quality and pricing. Who knows what will happen with the 80% rebate once the "new" branding takes place etc. etc.
Guess I will stay put for now and wait to see what the future brings.
Anybody else out there using RAV that wants to share their thoughts?

Tracy

[Mr.Blaze]

:DLMAO BLAZE ROLL ON FLOOR COME ON THESE GUYS CANT EVEN BUILT A DECENT OPERATING SYSTEM WITH OUT MAJOR SECURITY HOLES LET ALONE A HALF BAKED CRAP OUT FIRE WALL

NOW THEY WANT TO DO WHAT SAFE WAY DOES MAKE ALL MICROSOFT SOFTWARE AVAILABLE EASY TO REACH GENERIC CRAP AND PUT ALL THE NAME BRAND STUFF DOW-EN BELOW BEYOND REACH

SO you have to use there crap lol

who didn't see this one coming

[Firefighter]

To everyone from Firefighter!

What does it happen when "The Empire Strikes Back"?

Is the mobile network the second battlefield and which av is the one closest to Nokia's favour? ;D ;D ;D

"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best Regards,
Firefighter!

[Blackcat]

Frisk Software are quick on the draw!

Check out this special offer for current RAV users;


http://www.f-prot.com/news/gen_news/special_offer.html


More AV programs to jump on the bandwagon?

[Madsen DK]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Straight Shooter link=board=24;threadid=10108;start=15#msg65945 date=1055343120]
The shape of things to come..

(I designed this...LOL)

" }-

Straight Shooter.
Perhaps a job is waiting for you at Microsoft.
Great design ;D ;D
Regards Ole

[Tired]

I really hope more AV companies jump on the bandwagon! I just got all set up and comfy using this RAV after testing out several over the course of a year. Now I will have to move on! !%$#^@&*! ???
f-prot is not for me and NOD32, well, I think I am just too stupid to use it.
Ho-hum back to where I begun!

cheers.

[Madsen DK]

Tired
Nod isnt that difficult to use, and with every question you might have, the Nod forum is just here :D
Regards
Ole

[hayc59]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Blackcat link=board=24;threadid=10108;start=15#msg65999 date=1055361101]
Frisk Software are quick on the draw!
Check out this special offer for current RAV users; http://www.f-prot.com/news/gen_news/special_offer.html
More AV programs to jump on the bandwagon?
" }-

that is just to cool!!

[Mr.Blaze]

will personaly i wouldnt recomend nod to a brand spanking new newby

nod is more of an expert tool for those in the inform on what to look for

id only recomend it to an expert newb that has been playing around in pauls free tool section with a little bit of this and that

it takes a good newb of 3 to 4 months of playing around with the free toys to get the jest and talk of whats what and what terms mean what

for pros nods great but for brand spanking new newbs id wait awhile and get past the lerning cuve befor geting into nod espechially in its new development stages

i feel sorry for tired it sucks to start all over when your comfey

for other av vendors this is a good opertunity

start picking up new clients from the old defeated av that has join the evil microsoft empire lol

why go spyware when you can go nod

why settle for microsoft security hole driven av when you can go gav lol

see people even newbs dont want more call home microsoft programs waist of ram and resourcess lol

plus more spyware yuck

id take full advantage of this av with and start ringing in there disatified customers lol

[Paul Wilders]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Mr.Blaze link=board=24;threadid=10108;start=15#msg66115 date=1055406613]
will personaly i wouldnt recomend nod to a brand spanking new newby

nod is more of an expert tool for those in the inform on what to look for" }-

I have to disagree here, Mr. Blaze.

-{ Quote: "for pros nods great but for brand spanking new newbs id wait awhile and get past the lerning cuve befor geting into nod espechially in its new development stages" }-

NOD32 is actually very easy to install and to set up - no high learning curve, merely a matter of following the - quite understandable - help files if needed. ;)

regards.

paul

[illukka]

hi

i don't think nod to be difficult to use, and it doesn''t need much of a tinkering coz the default settings are actually pretty safe

[Mr.Blaze]

:Di dont know i heard lots a probs with that beta thing and it frustrate newbs

but i think its the best thing for some pros who are in the know and no what to look for and the antivirus termenolgy like worms viruses infection js explot ect ect

i wasnt saying it was a bad program on the contrary very good program

but newbs are use to programs with no thinking on there part like norton for example or boclean

nods a fine program i just dont think for newbs

[Paul Wilders]

Mr.Blaze,

-{ Quote: "nods a fine program i just dont think for newbs" }-

Wrong once more ;)

regards.

paul

[Technodrome]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Mr.Blaze link=board=24;threadid=10108;start=15#msg66187 date=1055436221]
nods a fine program i just dont think for newbs
" }-

If you know how to turn on/off computer, then using NOD32 is a piece of cake... ::)


Technodrome

[Mr.Blaze]

;Dok let see some screen shots of nods interface and how to use it a little preview

[Paul Wilders]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Mr.Blaze link=board=24;threadid=10108;start=30#msg66256 date=1055455755]
;Dok let see some screen shots of nods interface and how to use it a little preview
" }-

Have a look at various post over on the NOD32 forums, Mr. Blaze ;) - this is the "other" antivirus software forum ;)

regards.

paul

[Mr.Blaze]

;Dok on my way

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Technodrome link=board=24;threadid=10108;start=30#msg66192 date=1055437084]
If you know how to turn on/off computer, then using NOD32 is a piece of cake... ::)
Technodrome
" }-

On/off? One does NOT simply turn Windoze OFF! Horrors no!

To "Stop" Windoze you must first press "Start." {logical, isn't it?} :P

Then & only then you may "Shut Down" {NOT turn off -- how crass! -- but Shut Down}

Except in February, which has 28 8)

[Dan Perez]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Technodrome link=board=24;threadid=10108;start=30#msg66192 date=1055437084]
-{ Quote: " quoting: Mr.Blaze link=board=24;threadid=10108;start=15#msg66187 date=1055436221]
nods a fine program i just dont think for newbs
" }-

If you know how to turn on/off computer, then using NOD32 is a piece of cake... ::)


Technodrome
" }-

Ah...well...THERE you touch on an awkward point! Mr. Blaze DOESN'T know how to turn off/on his computer. He has hired help for that sort of thing. (Just kidding, Blaze; could't resist!)
;D

[edsod]

If the opinion of a casual NOD user is of some interest
to you,I must say that NOD is very easy for a newbie to use except the configuration for email scanning....
;)

[Sisko]

In the new NOD32 version 2 (released), The email is much simpler to configure : there is nothing to configure in most case, even if you use a spam filter workink has a proxy.

[sig]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Mr.Blaze link=board=24;threadid=10108;start=15#msg66187 date=1055436221]
:Di dont know i heard lots a probs with that beta thing and it frustrate newbs" }-

Beta versions are for beta testers to discover bugs, problems and report them to the vendor so the vendor can fix them and prepare the product for final release. Unlike most commercial product beta testing this one was open to anyone and pretty much conducted in public via the forum here. Since the point of beta testing is to find and report problems, it's not surprising that one would see reports of problems in the NOD beta forum. And newbies should not be beta testers.

[Technodrome]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bellgamin link=board=24;threadid=10108;start=30#msg66321 date=1055477601]
On/off? One does NOT simply turn Windoze OFF! Horrors no!

To "Stop" Windoze you must first press "Start." {logical, isn't it?} :P

Then & only then you may "Shut Down" {NOT turn off -- how crass! -- but Shut Down}

Except in February, which has 28 8)
" }-

But I can't shut down Windowz, I can only Turn it Off...Bump.... :)

[Smokey]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Tinribs link=board=24;threadid=10108;start=0#msg65836 date=1055274728]
Well I cant say I'm happy about them entering into the a/v market, but two good things should come out of it;
1. Hopefully all new o/s users will have access to a a/v included with the o/s (and hence we should all be safer from exploits.
2. Rav is a good product and unless they mess it up its a quality product.
" }-

For sure Micro$oft will mess it up.... ;D

[Mr.Blaze]

:DSorry but the sales pitch kinda sucked

in most cases rather then telling me what i wanted to know or needed to know i mainly got links to website go look here go look there type thing

usealy something like that perty much says same thing about a program.

also avoiding the qustion does it play well with others and finaly geting answer nod is all you need says more to.

im not trying to start nothing i really am not im just speaking of my personal experince and that is all.

when im looking into a product i like the personal touch it usealy shows they care .

for example if i have a qustion about boclean or tds those guys are all over it and they take the time to say what and how

they dont go sending me off to web pages full of high end talk.

for now im not intrestead in nod ill wait till my subscription runs out by then maybe things will change.

algain this is out of my personal experince and nothing more so dont go hiting me with an onslaught of attacks lol or i shall revail with my mighty wooden spoon.